MARS MISSIONS, RADIATION, & SEX

Ok....now that I've caught your attention with the word "sex" in the title, read this:

Mars Missions, Sex, and Radiation

No doubt the Apollo "hoaxers" will latch on to this one in a heartbeat, as yet another indirect testimony to their supposition that the Apollo missions never really landed on the moon, since transiting the Van Allen Radiation Belts would have exposed the crews to dangerously high levels of radiation.

Well, before getting on to that problem, it is interesting to me that now, with manned missions to Mars and even colonization of that planet being quietly talked about and clearly on the minds of everyone's space agencies (except our own of course, which is busily and courageously blazing a path into irrelevance), that the issue of radiation is being discussed as one of the potential problems that must be addressed. In this case, the article specifically mentions protons, which would require a few centimeters of shielding. "Hmmm," I thought, "a few centimeters of shielding will make an enormously heavy vehicle." Perhaps they are planning to build the actual interplanetary capsule in space itself, rather than boost it from the Earth or the Moon.

It is here that the hoaxers will have a field day... pointing out the similar difficulties of journeys through the Van Allen Radiation Belts, and the fact that the Lunar Command and Excursion Modules were relatively thin-skinned, i.e., were not highly shielded vehicles. But then I thought, why even bother with conventional shielding against such particles? Couldn't some alternative, less heavy, form of shielding be employed? Perhaps one employing EM fields against such protons? Well....maybe... But the point here is, why does the article seem to conjure only images of conventional technologies? My guess - and it is only a guess - is that the original story has never been completely, nor properly, told, because there may have been some hidden technologies in play, and that the same problems, and solutions, are being presented in the planning for Mars Missions.

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

25 Comments

  1. Justina on February 16, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    the remote viewing effort dug up information about some cosmic
    catastrophe that some knew was coming, and tried to hide in
    suspended animation from it, but it had been too long since
    they should have been revived and are dead, and others left in
    a curved vehicle like a boat and went elsewhere.

    Hmmmm. This is vague enough, that it would fit the co-catastrophe
    on Earth and Mars at the time of The Flood scenario that I paint
    at my blog, http://politicallyunclassifiable.blogspot.com
    scroll down to (or look in Jan. archives if you read this after I make a
    later post) A Possible History of Life on Mars, the Flood is dealt with
    near center of this article.



  2. mary on February 16, 2011 at 7:17 am

    People please remember, do not let emotion eclipse reason.



  3. AJCruz on February 16, 2011 at 1:55 am

    Monroe Institutes video on Hemi-Sync(binaural beats) and Remote Viewing with Joe McMoneagle of the Monroe Institute. On the 4th part, he does viewing of Mars given coordinates without behind given prior knowledge that he was being asked to view Mars. His conclusions are quite astounding and very worth taking a look at.

    Hemi-Sync® and Remote Viewing #1:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drQ0l65YYbk

    Hemi-Sync® and Remote Viewing #2:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLLKwQnXGM&feature=related

    Hemi-Sync® and Remote Viewing #3:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc59il6fRfI&feature=related

    Hemi-Sync® and Remote Viewing #4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naLKzyV7gGw&feature=related



  4. Justina on February 15, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    My guess is, NASA fakes to hide stuff, and Hoagland and
    others, knowing there is something wrong, then
    gullibly accepts whatever faked nonsense is presented to
    them.

    Just because someone is denouncing something, doesn’t
    mean that person is reliable also.



  5. sj smith on February 15, 2011 at 5:09 am

    Stargate teleportation from the New Berlin base in Antartica?

    Andy Basiago seems to have first hand experience that should be considered along with other conjecture.

    What a wonderful distraction instead of watching the collapse of empire.



  6. Mel Hatfield on February 15, 2011 at 12:29 am

    I remember as a teen in the early to mid-1960’s (pre-Apollo era) learning about the Van-Allen Radiation Belts in high school science class. I recall that the assumption then was that going through them would cause humans to be “crispy critters” upon return. I had later, as a young man, felt NASA must have overcome this problem some how since we were making manned trips to the moon.

    One thing that weighs heavily on my mind today is why the Obama administration decided to, in effect, dismantle further human space exploration. Something quite pronounced must be at the core of such a serious decision. Could problems such as the radiation consideration have precluded continued human space travel? Could it have to do with a knowledge of some impending event or problem that would make such plans of exploration by man obsolete?



    • Bruce on February 15, 2011 at 7:50 pm

      It seems logical to suspect that in these times, budget problems are behind NASA cutbacks. Just speculation.



  7. Justina on February 14, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    There are very few photos of moon and mars stuff that
    are unquestiontably too weird too be faked. But
    Hoagland and some other guy I forget his name, fell
    victim to a kind of dreamy spell that may be out there,
    that helps people discredit themselves.

    Hoagland, crystal cities. and credulity for faked stuff.

    the other guy, that the rings of Saturn are made up
    of huge living worm things.

    (there might indeed be some weird kind of super
    thick hided life forms, perhaps normally spawning in
    the dense nebula gas clouds elsewhere, that might
    be camped out in the Saturn rings, and/or monstrous
    craft. But this, to put it mildly, exaggeration, just ruins
    the person’s credibiity. And any reference to such
    people in a footnote, inclines to discredit anyone
    else writing using their information. And that is the
    purpose of this kind of thing.

    As for life forms, consider, that if a gas cloud is
    dense enough to coalesce into a star or planet
    later, it is dense enough to support things that, in
    their early stages of life at least, might have an issue
    with air pressure around them.

    the capability of whale blubber to shield against
    the crushing weight of water deep enough for a
    sperm whale to raid giant squid, shows that
    organic materials can handle pressure issues.
    The reverse, being able to handle near vaccuum
    conditions, might be another matter.)



  8. Bruce on February 14, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Hey Joseph, have you ever heard of Jay Weidner? Claims to be a friend of Hoagland in one of his articles.

    I post the below links only because I think you might be interested. Should you check out the links I’m sure that your comments pro or con would be interesting (as they always are).

    He thinks that “they” actually went to the moon, but he still thinks they faked all the movies and many of the photos (he does not say why he thinks faking was necessary). His analysis which includes Stanley Kubrick is well worth the read:

    http://jayweidner.com/AlchemicalKubrickIIa.html

    His analysis of Kubrick’s THE SHINING is also pretty interesting:

    http://www.jayweidner.com/ShiningSecrets.html

    After reading that you may ( I repeat, “may” ! ) be interested in his analysis of 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY:

    http://www.jayweidner.com/kubrick.htm



    • Bruce on February 14, 2011 at 5:20 pm

      Oh yeah, he claims (I repeat, “claims”) that many (all?) of the artifacts Hoagland finds in moon photos are simply the the result of the phots being faked. I can’t claim knowledge here, but IF he is correct about the faking, it logically follows that the pics can’t tell you much about the moon.



    • Joseph P. Farrell on February 15, 2011 at 8:30 pm

      Yes I know Jay and have talked with him in fact. And I know his analysis of 2001….it’s a CLASSIC!



  9. mary on February 14, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    By folding I really mean torsion.



  10. mary on February 14, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Well I think it’s really a question of ionizing radiation vs non ionizing. analogous to shooting a bullet thought a chain reaction. When the bullet speeds through the chain reaction of ionizing radiation, will it be radioactive afterward?I would say yes. If you shoot a bullet through a coronal mass ejection will it be hot, will it be radio active? I would say no.Now if they have a vessel that can fold time as well as space,they could conceivably be to the moon before the radiation comes in contact with them.



  11. Gary Hunter on February 14, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Also the speed of transit through the radiation zone determines the dosage of absorption. A sufficiently developed propulsion system would negate most of the effects of radiation exposure. (intensity/time=net damage)



    • Joseph P. Farrell on February 14, 2011 at 3:31 pm

      Yes this was the thing always bothering me about the Hoaxers as well



    • Bruce on February 14, 2011 at 4:53 pm

      In NASA MOONED AMERICA (self-published by Ralph Rene ) there is the claim that one of the largest solar flares recorded up to that point occurred during one of the Apollo missions, and that the radiation dose for all aboard over several days would have turned them all into fried chicken, literally.

      Verifiying any of that is beyond me, but it seemed to make sense.



      • Bruce on February 15, 2011 at 7:47 pm

        Also, recent statements by NASA regarding the radiation problem do not have to do with the Van Allen belts, but simply with long-term exposure, such as during a trip to Mars. The concern isn’t about instant lethal doses, but the problems are still serious (assuming NASA is being honest about the radiation problem, as someone above questioned).



  12. Gary Hunter on February 14, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    Tesla Shield!!



  13. Justina on February 14, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    There is an interesting sci fi movie with Stallone having
    been frozen in stasis as some punishment, thawed out
    to deal with something the cops of the time two hundred
    years later can’t deal with. Briefly, the problem of being
    conscious all the time after all is mentioned.

    As for protection against radiation, what I read was
    that the secret was zipping through the van allen belts,
    and timing things to avoid solar storms that were,
    back then, operating on schedule. This might not be
    so reliable now.

    Frankly, I think that the flimsy tin can walls were
    inherently risky and irresponsible.



  14. mary on February 14, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    I have ofter thought that the typical account of a burning hell in most western religions would be nothing in comparison to a magnetic time freeze device that could keep a human being frozen in terror and pain for countless eons. Which is what the bible says happened to the angels that fell as they await their day of judgement. That is probably the only thing that could keep plasma beings captive.



  15. Mary linderman on February 14, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Oh I understand. You mean like surrounding the craft or space vessel with a sort of tokamak. Normally that would keep radiation inside the tokamak but would also keep harmful radiation out. I’ve been researching Dark Plasma Theory. It’s the application of plasma and dark matter physics to the study of dark plasma life forms and their corresponding habitats. But you probable know that. Jay Alfred is one of the writers contributing to the research on this subject. I was looking at a model of the lines of magnetic force surrounding the earth and it does look like a tokamak. A creepy prison for dark plasma beings. Jeesh I hope we are not stuck in the same prison with them. Sounds like hell.



  16. Spirit Splice on February 14, 2011 at 7:33 am

    On second.thought, it is possible that this (public) musing of the (apparent) problem is prelude, an.excuse if you will, to announcing a “new” ingenious technology to “solve” his problem…..while forgetting that it must have already been solved during Apollo.



  17. Spirit Splice on February 14, 2011 at 7:30 am

    Raise shields! RED ALERT!



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