THE APOCALYPSE THEATER, PART TWO: THE PENTAGON AND ...
Again, as yesterday, I want to share some quotations from Nick Redfern's fascinating book, Final Events, for I believe these quotations perfectly encapsulate what I mean by "Apocalypse Theater." Consider these disturbing passages:
"Michael Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) said: 'There's an eschatology obsessed version of Christianity... that is trying to make American foreign policy coterminous with their Biblical worldview,' and added that there is: '...improper pressure within the military command structure to make members join them.'
"The MMRF(sic) also learned that, in 2007, an evangelical group called Operation Stand Up was preparing to mail 'freedom packages' to soldiers in Iraq as part of an Army program. Along with socks and snacks, the packages were set to include copies of an apocalyptic video game title 'Left Behind: Eternal Forces.' Only when the details of the plan were publicized by those who saw such actions as fundaemtnally wrong did the Pentagon grudgingly announce that the operation would be shelved." (p. 224)
Then consider this passage, where one of Redfern's whistleblowers, given the name Robert Manners in his book, states the following:
"In February 2010," writes Redfern, "I asked Robert Manners why the U.S. military was apprently being indoctrinated into an army of literal Christian soldiers with a solid acceptance of End-Times scenarios." (p. 224)
Manners' answer was shocking, both to Redfern and to this author:
"'...you're missing the point. The whole point of creating an army of God has less to do with the Middle East and more to do with preparing the troops for the day they come home, when religious fascism - the New World Order, the hologram things we told you about - comes right here, to the U.S....
"'Can you imagine the entire country... policed and controlled by the U.S. military, an army totally convinced and believed that what they're doing is according to what God wants and that will save the U.S. from a satanic threat? That's the crux of what's going on; indoctrinate the troops today for when they're needed here tomorrow. I call it Biblical Big-Brother.... That's the plan: save the country by keeping it under a religious iron-fist and enforcing Christianity on everyone."(p. 225)
Imagine, in other words, Cromwell's England, or Calvin's Geneva, but run by Fred Phelps, Tammy Bakker, Rod Parsley, and Benny Hinn and backed by tanks, helicopters, and automatic weapons. It is an insane apocalypse, to be sure, one scarcely conceivable to a rational mind.
But there is something else that Redfern notes, and that is, that this circle of Fundamentalist Obersturmbahnfuehreren in the Pentagon also believes in "helping the Second Coming along a bit" by orchestrating the events of their own version of the apocalypse; in other words, to compel Christ to return, and, if He will not, to hoax it.
Behind this, I suspect, there is something more sinister, but that is a topic for more lengthy and private analysis. But one can pull back the veil a bit on that as well, in the following clues: physical medium, consciousness, group multiplier effects... There is a group, as Redfern avers, that knows how this weird mix of science, ritual, and magic works, and they're working it. Whatever one makes of these allegations, Redfern's whistleblowers do point out one significant all-important thing: this religion is morally sick, schizophrenic, and bankrupt, for there are actually people who, in embracing it, and in order to have their viewpoint (they'll say, "the Bible") proven "true," actually wish for the wholesale slaughter and suffering their own doctrine says will happen, to occur.
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dimensional physics explaining a lot about the Trinity and divinity
above the physical medium.
my complaint is, this sounds like you are ascribing divinity to the
physical medium, and apparently you are all so dependent on
Church tradition and writings for The Trinity, that you have never
seen the Biblical passages that teach it, when you combine them
all. so running into something similar, knowing there is neoplatonic
influence in Church Fathers, you figure the physical medium is
the Trinity.
Don’t forget, God displays things about Himself in His creation,
but is distinct from it. It would be fitting that He would write features
of The Trinity into the physical medium, that stuff created out of nothing,
and then out of which He created everything else.
Coming from an evangelical background, I am used to the refutation
of all heresies and proclamation of The Trinity WITHOUT recourse
to the canons, Fathers, or Nicene Creed and since it references
The Scriptures for validity, it is obvious that the early Fathers were
more steeped in Schripture than their modern students.
No I am not ascribing divinity to the physical medium. I’m not saying he is controled by the physics, He created the physics. His physics allows us to understand his character and attributes. For examples of what I am referring to, see http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/xdimgod.html. That site is only an introduction. Questions like “How can God hear everyone’s prayers at the same time?” or “How can there be both free will and predestination at the same time?” can also be resolved when we take into account how the universe was designed.
A lot of people think that the whole “Left Behind/Rapture” scenario is the standard biblical belief. Fact is, this has been more influenced by pop culture, movies, pseudoscholars and Y2K than real scholarship. One author that has braved the wrath of the Left Behinders is Hank Hannegraff in his book The Apocalypse Code. It’s a breath of fresh air.
Thanks for reminding me about John Calvin’s Geneva thou I have been thinking about the Lord Protectorite the way the Republican Party behaving lately. The Handmaiden’s Tale and a series of stories by Robert Heinlein come to mind about this subject the penetration of the military by christian fundamentalist was discus on Democracy Now I think last year so was Blackwater relationship to the christian right several times on that program it will take alliance between the Judeo-Chirstian-Islamic,Pagan,Atheiest who still think to stop these manics or it’s curtains for all of us.
the trouble with all these Christians working to take over the country
or the world for Christ, is that they mostly are not very Christian! 🙁
The Blackwater Crusaders —
Eric Prince, founder of Blackwater, is a member of the Knights of Malta. A Blackwater employee, who was on armed missions in Iraq in a legal court notice that was the responsibility of the State of Virginia, described the Prince’s sense of Blackwater’s own mission in Iraq and Afghanistan as follows:
“In a declaration under the penalty of perjury, a former employee of Erik Prince’s Blackwater defense contracting firm said the Prince” views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe ‘.
The accuser, only known as John Doe #2 in court documents because he claims he has been threatened with ‘death and violence’ by managers of Prince’s company, wrote that ‘Prince intentionally deployed to Iraq certain men who shared his vision of Christian supremacy, knowing and wanting these men to take every available opportunity to murder Iraqis. Many of these men used call signs based on the Knights of the Templar, the warriors who fought the Crusades’.”
Then there is Negroponte, Greek for: Black Bridge, which carried the marauders to their prey!
Christine,
I’m going to go ahead and drop my part of this discussion as it really has nothing much to do with Dr. Farrell’s post here and only tangentially so.
However, since you recommended a work to me by the great St. Photios, his ‘Mystagogia’ and other ideas relevant, might I equally offer a suggestion to you that I have a theological back ground, written post-graduate papers for professors on the Cappadocian model of the Trinity vis-a-vis the Augustinized Trinitarian model, very familiar with the owner of this blog’s theological back ground and his several treatises on both Sts. Maximos the Confessor and Photios the Great as well as his theological magnum opus done at the University of Oklahoma on the Two Europes and their Cultural Consequences, and the fact that my very name is ‘photios’ lends itself that I might have an inkling of where you are coming from. I ask that you please take that into consideration.
Best,
photios
Fine, but I am well aware of the differences, and it is not so much St. Photios’
writing as Dr. Farrell’s extensive introduction to his translation of St. Photios
that I am referring you to. The point is, that bad theology (i.e., pagan)
muddles physics, and physics of any kind can muddle theology. I am
concerned, regardless of the position one takes on the filioque, that there
be no tendency to personalize and eventually deify this space time etheric
matrix. any similarity to God that it might have in how it propagates itself or whatever is strictly coincidental, or more likely, God saying something about
Himself in His creation, ditto the shamrock.
Thanks. I believe I also referred above that I am familiar with the owner’s work on Photios. If you would please read me carefully, that means I own a COPY of his Introduction and Translation of the Mystagogia. Consider, once again, that he and I are both well aware of that work and what it says in detail, and consider once again that we have both probably done a considerable amount of thinking since then.
If you want to take the position of the defensor fidei, by all means, be my guest when I offer my own position on how to handle the problem.
Thanks again.
Photios I can’t believe, after you dropped some serious knowledge, Christine wants to deliberate these points with you. I can just imagine Dr. Farrell having a hard time not saying anything in response. But oh well, you make the perfect substitue.
Well it’s a psychological problem that we ALL have to put down and get over with. There is that side to us all that wants to get on top of the hill and say, “okay, I’m at the Port. I’m done.” We all have a tendency to over dogmatize our views and offer no self-reflection or worse institute a gnostic ‘prohibition of questions.’ I admire the Gnostics for a few insites that they had, but that is certainly not one of them. Prohibiting any kind of knowledge because it appears to conflict with certain standards or dogmas or what have you does nothing but make us blind.
Agreed, and thank you for your time and insite:-)
I have been debating whether or not to post this, but what the hell, why not.
This is a PDF from a symposium circa 2000, it’s interesting how predictive, or prophetic, it truly was.
Here is a basic description of what this document entails.
” Over the course of the year 2000, five one-day workshops were conducted by the Center for Global Security Research at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory on threats that might come against the US and its allies in the 2015 to 2020 timeframe due to the global availability of advanced technology. These workshops focused on threats that are enabled by nuclear, missile, and space technology; military technology; information technology; bio technology; and geo systems technology.”
I believe it fits quite nicely with the whole apocalypse theme so, enjoy:-)
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/15006286-ap8HVF/native/
A point made in this file, about the nuclear technology trained people
available to whoever from the ex Soviet nations, gave me an idea
regarding Dr. Farrell’s idea of legacy civilizations.
According to his theory, a legacy civilization wouldn’t have all that the
previous one had. Now, lets suppose that in some cases at least,
the legacy civilization or civilizations plural, or civilization and not
so civilized, had at their disposal not so much incomplete technology
objects, but an incomplete set of specialists with their skills.
So these scatter, like the aforementioned nuke trained guys from the
ex Soviet Union, and some places get more and some get less.
And unlike modern students of over unity and other odd technology,
they are none of them interested in helping the masses, but using
their knowledge to consolidate power, which means secrecy. This
further cuts lines of communication between stray specialists.
So some place gets levitation technology, but in weaker partial
form, something that will assist human hauling and placing of
huge stones, but not good enough to lift them high without human
help, just greatly lighten the load, hence some reported Egyptian
depiction of work gangs and large stones. and not good enough
to fly very high or very far.
Other places get something else, maybe some weather or crop
influencing stuff. In Australia, the Wandjina were believed to have
power over weather.
What I find so interesting about this document is its listings of assets, both in the present tense and future tense, and of the ” Adversary Weapons and Tactics “. The bulk of the document talks of what threats could destabilize our government, economy, and natural resources. Which on it’s own gives one pause to contemplate how vulnerable we are to attacks, not just from outside of our country, but from within.
It also lists future projects, none by name, areas of research and development, here are a few examples:
Natural and Engineered Disease
Human Control of Bio Forms
Genetic Modification ofAnimal and Man: Neo-Metazoans
Losing to Superior Cognitive Computing
Loss of Space Control
These are just a few subjects it covers, within one section they even talk about how the USAF wants to transition to
United States Areospace Force! This is a document full of little quirks. So spend some time reading it, then let us all talk about it:-)
Ran across the following article today. Didn’t know that we had a solar observing software analysis system called “Enlil.” Interesting:
http://science.slashdot.org/story/11/04/05/1621253/Solar-Storm-Nearly-Wipes-
Out-NASAs-Messenger
to photios – you HAVE to posit a divinity above the physical
medium itself, because the physical medium don’t got no
brains. a low level of semi consciousness doesn’t hack it.
The One Who Is is not the same as the one THAT is the
etheric muck everything gets materialized out of which.
The One Who Is is the One that created and sculpts the
neoplatonic physical one, and/or endowed it with any
self organizing capability it has.
the more we find out about the universe the more obvious
it is, that it can’t have created itself, and would have
blown apart or imploded or both long ago without
a Manager. Even if you argue that it is in its self interest
to not do so, we go back to where did it come from?
like the absurdity of worshipping wood and metal idols
that are blind, and the limited demonic beings behind
them, it is absurd to view a manipulatable conductable
commandable etheric matrix as divine.
Christine,
It is evident to me by your statement that you don’t really know what you are saying or capable of accurately portraying exactly what the One is or the physical medium or to put it in mathematical terms, the empty hyperset as an enhypostasized entity.
It is also evident to me that you have probably not done much digging into theological texts where there is considerable import of these ideas, and I’m thinking of one very mountainous figure here that is so important for Eastern Christian theology.
At any rate, I find that it wouldn’t be in my best interest to dialogue with you about it. I can barely read a cogent idea in what you state and to be honest, it’s difficult to read what you are saying because of the lack of any kind of sentence structure. Furthermore, I see a strong sense of polemicism that something must be *this* for such and such reasons, in which we are never given much *reason.*
I’m sorry, I will have to pass.
Best,
-photios
on the contrary. I have been digging into theology a long time,
and just because a concept is out there, or because plotinus
held it, doesn’t make it correct.
The neoplatonic One is a physical medium, but unfortunately
as Dr. Farrell points out in Giza Death Star Destroyed, by
it being adopted as a concept in theology, it created distortions
and confusion.
Basically, The Neoplatonic One is not God.
Thanks. I’m not thinking of Plotinos here or letting him do my thinking for me even though he is of significant importance. 😉
Unfortunately, if you read Dr. Farrell closely and carefully in GDES, what becomes muddled is not that it is adopted per se into theology as a secondary discipline, but the fact that theological concepts muddle and are incapable of handling what first should be handled as a mathematical concept.
As a kind of exercise in the process: Ask yourself why the One, Nous, and Soul or Theos, Topos, Kosmos become *fully* differentiated by Dr. Farrell, yet result in a binity with the Augustinian/Carolingian Filioque AS a doctrine? And one must also be careful to differentiate what point of the topological descent that they are analysing. What might be thought of as a “heresy” in one discipline may not necessarily be so in a different discipline and contextualized *properly.*
I suspect if Joseph were to revisit those sections we would see his viewpoint has shifted and that text would be written a bit differently now.
Good points Photius! Thanks for making these insights. You’re closer than anyone else here.
which is why we need to DISTINGUISH between them and not
start divinizing the neoplatonic physics “one” confusing it
with The One Who IS and is, by the way, unlike the physics
matrix one, both uber smart and loving.
“Unfortunately, if you read Dr. Farrell closely and carefully in GDES, what becomes muddled is not that it is adopted per se into theology as a secondary discipline, but the fact that theological concepts muddle and are incapable of handling what first should be handled as a mathematical concept.”
what is indicated, is that the adoption of mathematical and physics
stuff into theology, muddle the theology, as far as they are allowed
to do so.
“As a kind of exercise in the process: Ask yourself why the One, Nous, and Soul or Theos, Topos, Kosmos become *fully* differentiated by Dr. Farrell, yet result in a binity with the Augustinian/Carolingian Filioque AS a doctrine? And one must also be careful to differentiate what point of the topological descent that they are analysing. What might be thought of as a “heresy” in one discipline may not necessarily be so in a different discipline and contextualized *properly.*
Because these myths are a mix of historic human (and perhaps
parahuman) incidents, and cargo cult remnant legacy memory of
the physics they were involved with, with various lesser great men
and events added, AND a vague memory in the later polytheism
of some truth known in a time of primordial simpler theology, all
mixed up together.
If there is correct vs. heretical content historywise and physicswise
that can be sorted out of this, as Dr. Farrell has been doing, there
may be some correct vs. heretical content theologywise, the great
war of the titans, for instance, sounds like a vague memory of the
rebellion of the fallen angels. “none can see My Face and live” God
told Moses, and some notion regarding this being a feature of the
high god was retained in Greek mythology about zeus, but it was
a legacy theology, shall we say.
Get ahold of The Mystagogy of The Holy Spirit, and you will see there
is more than one way to posit a Trinity. and the filioque version is
the result of letting math and physics muddle theology. That would
have 1 + 1 = 3, insofar as The Father and the Son together produce
The Holy Spirit, while the non neoplatonic theology that is, that
theology that depends on the word of The One Who rose from the
dead, and not on mere human philosophy, says 1 gives rise to 2,
but does so beyond time, which is itself a creature so all 3 are coeternal.
now, God creates the enhypowhatnotmathtimephysics matrix, and
writing something about Himself into His creation, has the one ether
matrix give rise to two. God and the matrix are similar, but not identical.
Forcing God’s hand to bring about biblical prophecy and earning a few pieces of silver for the trouble.
Hmmmm, haven’t I read this story somewhere before.
I’ve pointed this out to evangelical friends and they REALLY don’t like to hear it.
so you know people who are in favor of forcing God’s hand? I thought
that was a minority in the shadows opinion, there are some who
openly think and advocate this?
They don’t see it that way but it is what they are doing. If they read in their books that God needs a red heifer for a sacrifice the will make donations to a farmer who is breeding red cattle. The believe in an all powerful God but can’t imagine that he would take care of providing the red heifer when the time was right.
That is one of the more benign things they would do to bring Jesus back. If they got the notion that the anti-Christ needed to be elected president of the USA for Jesus to return, they would vote for Charles Manson if he were running.
EWWW! what idiots!
These type of Christian-zionist fundamentalists are the Babylon Banksters’ most useful idiots. They are being promoted in the ranks of the military but fortunately their dimwittedness makes them incompetent officers. No thinking person can possible subscribe to such crackpot unChristian gobbly gook, although many think they are in the mold of some of those great, devout Bible thumping Generals of the Civil War. The neo-cons’ goal is to stack the military command with these useful idiots, spoon fed as they are with apocalyptic delusions and blood lust for their enemies, and have them do their bidding which is to fight a crusade against Islam in order to carve out a Middle Eastern empire for Israel and then bring their lunacy back to the United States where they will fight another war against the enemies of their fanatic zio-centric ideology.
These enemies will be first and foremost the Catholic Church, as well as non zio-centric Protestant denominations, Islam and all so called “New Age” movements including Hinduism and Buddhism. The Roman Catholic Church is the primary target as it is the great nemesis of the Pharisees, an institution that was established to protect the populous from their malevolent ambitions while providing a spiritual dogma to its adherents which was inverse to the despicable beliefs of the demonic Babylon banksters. The Catholic Church is also the only Institution, if it ever got back on its feet, with the global apparatus, following, and wealth to thwart the ambitions of the enemies of mankind and their plans for a global plantation. I fully expect a direct attack on the Vatican as that imp Netanyahu has even boasted that El Qaida (El Mossada/CIA-da) intends to target the Vatican for a massive terrorist attack. This will be the salvo meant to trigger European involvement in Israel’s crusade against Islam.
Once Islam is crushed, with all the carnage only serving to boost the delusional beliefs of the un-Christian apocalyptos, they will be marched back to the US to mop up what is left of opposing divergent religious beliefs as listed above. Those without religious beliefs, the mass of godless, drug taking, television obsessed zombies will also be left alone as they have already been perfected for the future plan. Sectarian religious violence will rule the day as the un-Christian apocalyptos slug it out with the large, leaderless Catholic population. Once the Catholics are subdued, all Christianity will merge into Christian Transformationalism, the recently concocted zio-centric apocalyptic denomination of the likes of Sarah Palin. In fact, her entire reason to be is to showcase this future brand of all encompassing Christianity and that is why she will be the Republican nominee to run and lose to Hillary Clinton in 2012. Palin, a former Catholic, will serve to bring this new unifying Christianity to the public eye. Transformational will be the merging of all Christian denominations into one horribly un-Christian, un-spiritual, apocalyptic, zio-centric religion that will only function to do the bidding of the Babylon banksters. I suggest you google the results of the African field tests of Transformationalism. No sooner had African villagers been converted when witch doctors and shamans were burnt at the stake by Transformationalist mobs. This is the plan for America. A reign of terror by Transformationalist fascists to rout out any trace of human spirituality.
And somewhere during this frenzy a messianic hologram will come to incite their hate and demand their unflinching loyalty. He will even demand that they give up Jesus and turn solely to him, the Second Coming of Christ, a new Messiah for Christians and Jews alike. He will give them new commandments and old Commandments– the Noahide Laws. Gentiles will be taught to be subservient to God’s Chosen People and look upon them as Gods. Gentiles will no longer call themselves Christians but instead Hassidic Gentiles. The hologram messiah will tell them they are second class citizens and they will happily abide– bowing down before their new human Gods.
This of course is just their demented plan, but like the Thousand Year Reich, it will crash and burn. They will be the ones who get mopped up. They will never conquer America. An army of psychopathic mercenaries, half-wit trailer and ghetto trash, Christian fundamentalist officers, and Israeli Generals will never subjugate an armed populace protected by what I would claim is the closest thing we have to a Divine document in the West– the US Constitution. The Constitution is clearly a sign of God’s grace shining on the American people. Furthermore, they are in a race for time. To fulfill the final stages of their dream, they have had to come out in the open and now they have been exposed for who they truly are– the insane demons who control our governments, media and finance. And as human spirituality continues to rise in this Age of Christ Consciousness, the enemies usual tricks of mind manipulation will no longer work on a growing majority of the world populous. As their time is running short, they are now the ones living in fear and anxiety and their actions become more and more rash. Lastly, there are forces in place which seem to be to thwarting them. This may be what we are witnessing now. Their failure to destroy Tokyo in Operation Godzilla, the failure of the Swine flu to be truly epidemic, the failure to hijack five nukes off an US air force jet, the failure to follow up 9-11 with an even greater attack using five nukes as bragged about by the likes of Michael Chertoff, the failure to partition Iraq and seize part of its territory for Israel, the failure to uncover and destroy one of the bases of the Tantrik Pashupatus (Rudolph Hess’ Oriental Directorate) in Afghanistan all seem to be evidence that their best laid plans have not worked and maybe, just maybe someone is one step ahead of them. Maybe what we are seeing is evidence of The Brotherhood of The Bell at work.
Reminds me a whole lot of the t.v series Millenium!
Joseph, your last paragraph, I believe, is very close to what’s goin oing on here – especially: “But one can pull back the veil a bit on that as well, in the following clues: physical medium, consciousness, group multiplier effects… There is a group, as Redfern avers, that knows how this weird mix of science, ritual, and magic works, and they’re working it.”
The 13th century Buddhist monk, Nichiren Daishonin, wrote about how the collective mind can effect the physical environment, both the body (e.g. Bruce Lipton & the Biology of Belief) and the external environment (e.g. Masaru Emoto and his water cystals). Thus if, wrote Nichiren, the collective mind is in confusion or a state of anger then earth quakes etc could follow. In other words, the physical world is merely a reflection of us; we and the environment are NOT the separate things they appear to be.
If we then implant apocalyptic ideas or themes into a collective mind, even if done subconciously (which can be more effective given the effect it has OVER the concious mind), then this will greatly facilitate such a scenario becoming a reality. Therefore to play out this “theater” of apocalyptic end-times, they must have the masses BELIEVE this is inveitable – a type of predictive programming. In other words, their agenda to usher in a NWO following a destructive apocalyptic end-game requires us to play along. Does this help explain the need to indoctrinate the military towars such a biblical mission?! In any event, herin lies the key to breaking such a chain of events: a BELIEF in a DIFFERENT version of the future!
yes, we can probably by such implantation stir people in the direction
of creating apocalyptic events – in addition to the few that are set
in stone. And these people are falling into the sins of pride and vainglory,
that it is so EXCITING and makes you feel so SPECIAL to be in these
WONDERFUL TIMES! when The Lord Jesus Christ is about to come back!
ever catch that explicitly in Jack Van Impe and his idiotic looking wife,
and implicitly in the rest of them? Its like, we are here to be entertained
by God, or God is here to entertain us or some such thing.
But this can be done not by thoughts influencing others paraphysically,
though once what I am about to talk about is going on, it would generate
thought that might add to this, but by the proliferation of ideas in word
and print, and the establishment in minds and hearts of erroneous
hermeneutic.
when wrong premises are present, the syllogism fails or things built
according to it fail. A house of cards, a set of dominos, a chain with
a weak link, get the idea? The rest may be strong, and a few wrong
things in positions of no importance in the structure can be lived
with. but when the time comes that these things are playing a role
in keeping the structure well under some specific stressor, the
structure will fail.
hopefully, when this happens, people will re examine and rebuild,
whether buildings, machines, faith, lives, without the wrong stuff
included again.
“wrong stuff” doesn’t have to be a large thing, like, it is not wrong
stuff to assume Jesus will come back and there will be terrible
times before that. There have always been terrible times here and
there anyway on a small scale. BUT when a specific time frame
is exalted, specific details NOT in the Standard Operating Manual
(BIble prophecy) are deduced or rather read into it, then presented
as foundational principles (which they aren’t) and stuff built further
on that, the result is trouble.
And it can include people deciding that they have a HISTORIC ROLE
or some such nonsense to make things happen…..
Hahaha. Great job stirring up the $#!t Joseph! Cant wait for your new book(s). I can tell that from the books that you have been reading. that they are going to, as George Ann would put it, set peoples hair on fire! Keep up the good work!
Dr. Farrell: you might be saving this for a future post in this topic, but … upon reading your Apocalypse Theater posts, I immediately began wondering: where do the Banksters fit into this? And now I go back to Lloyd Blankfein’s infamous and now oft-quoted statement, “I am doing God’s work” from November 2009 … and am now thinking that maybe the head of Goldman Sachs actually believes his own words … literally??
Dear Dr. Farrell, may I refer you to The Giza Death Star pp. 222-226, et. seq,
and especially note, that Plotinus says that The One apparently doesn’t even
think, “for what would it think about? itself?” p. 224, at this point The One
begins to resemble the blind idiot so called god azathoth of H. P. Lovecraft
horror cthulhu mythos, “who bubbles and blasphemes at the center of eternity,”
at worst, a mindless blur at best.
Now, clearly the universe, incl. the ether, space-time matrix, whatever, came
from somewhere. Water doesn’t run uphill, or not very far. Neither a matrix
of this incoherent sort, nor something more conscious but insane, could
produce the rest of the more or less orderly universe, let alone conscious
more or less sane intelligent beings (incl. a lot of animals). If it did, whatever
it did belch forth in some paroxysm of self colliding simplicity too simple minded
to avoid tripping over itself, would not last long.
Remember Intelligent Design.
Did you know that granite, when heated to molten and cooled never settles
down as granite again, but is RHYOLITE? that means the earth was never
molten at beginning. And polonium isotope halos without uranium present
to be a parent element, shows that the granites they are in came into existence,
with the polonium isotope, in all of three minutes.
Someone Who has HIs act together a whole lot more than Plotinus’ simplicity
on the one hand, or, GOD FORBID “azathoth” on the other is back of all
this.
Also your own observation, that “Neoplatonism as the principle source of
theological difficulties when its topological and therefore ‘physical’ metaphors
were misapplied to become the positive content of the dogmatic symbols of
theology.”
note also that there is a difference between a = b and a resembles b, as
you point out.
an artist displays things about him or her self in the art. So the one in the
sense of the matrix that is manipulated by God to make the rest of stuff and
organize it, and that is given by God self organizing properties (again, too
smart for the simple minded neoplatonic one or the GOD FORBID h. p.
lovecraft thingto come up with), would in displaying trinitarian tendencies, a one
that separates out to two more total three, which fits the Trinitarian Creed
without the filioque, would make sense as not being the same as the Trinity,
but resembling it, like the three leaved in one leaf Shamrock and other
things built into creation resembles and speaks of the Trinity without being
identical with it.
while all this hyperdimensional stuff is dripping acid on your theology, don’t
forget to let it drip acid on itself.
Um…what?
Time to switch to decaf.
No, the one does not think as we do because it is pure awareness. Thinking requires the illusion of separateness, i.e. something to think about.
Excellent posts on the disturbing subject of religion/military coupling, Dr. Farrell. I’m reminded of the old song we used to sing in church:
“Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
forward into battle see his banners go!”
I wonder if that song is still a big feel-good hit in Sunday morning services? I wouldn’t know…..
I very much look forward to your continued comments.
Yeah cause the main thing on the mind of a loving creator is.killing part of itself because of what it thinks.
Precisely so.
compel Christ to return…..not a chance will that work. So let’s suppose
they rig things so Earth will get burned over by standing lighning bolts
chewing up the surface and 90% die, unless He comes back.
All He has to do is interfere in the action, or kill everybody involved before
it can get done, and still come back only when The Father says to come
back.
Hmmmm. I don’t think these people are thinking right, what makes them
think if He DID return in a hurry because of them, He wouldn’t send them
straight to hell for all this? Not to mention if He had to intervene to stop
this even though that intervention didn’t incl. The Second Coming. Or even
without having to intervene, for trying it?
There is no hell. No hellenic hades needed thank you. Christians like to believe in hell so they can damn others to it. The concept is so stupid and obviously wrong it is amazing anyone falls for it.
A concept of a *place* of torment in the Dante sense? Absolutely. But the older more traditional view is that it is a state of being or moving-rest, such that one suffers the ill fate of their character formation. Some folks are in that state now, locked the key from the inside out in having a bad attitude, or worse one bent on doing evil.
Of course, the concept of an ever-well or ever-ill being does not necessarily originate with Christianity, but can be seen in Aristotle and the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
And on that score, I think there is something to be said for the reasoning processes behind the traditional view.
I’m glad these topics are finally being discussed. People need to be aware of groups like the one Redfern discusses and others, namely The Council for National Policy.
I’d suggest people watch Josh Reeves’ film The Secret Right vol 1. You can find it here in full:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfhLJ7Kw8xE
Here is a question that I think is fitting. How does Xe, formerly Blackwater, fit into the scheam of things? They have a philosophical base in Christianity, and are an arm of “military strategy” that is exsempt from oversite. How disturbing is all of this, given the context, in relation to Josephs article?
Ben Fulford had mentioned a fake “end times” about a year ago, that this had been planned by the Pentagon (among others). I applaud Redfern for really getting the true data about this out there. The only thing I can say to give hope is that lies require a great deal of maintenance and are inherently doomed to fail at some point. At least you and Redfern are putting the “cracks” into the hideous facade of this false idol.
I’d also add that even if you put hallucinogens into the water, you never know what that individual is going to react to or what he will “see” regardless of what you suggest. Welcome to American, don’t drink the water…
I answered the last apocalypse theater entry with the thoughts that maybe the handlers of the TV type preachers wanted all this to come to pass and make they look good$. Now I read that someone else had that idea, too. It is too bad since the real God and his real Son would not be backing ‘stuff’ like this. Let me give you another thought. Many years ago I worked in DC at HHS. It was during the Reagan years. At one meeting a woman from another department leaned down the table and answered the leaders question by asking seriously what was to be done with these Christians. They were in the way for everything. The comments were cut off as they could be discussed later and that meeting was on a time restraint. So…I am sure those discussions did go on — and what a better way to get something you want politically in this country than to get ‘Christians” to believe that their ‘religion’ can get it done and that it is what “god” would want. Since most Christians today are what I call “pewers” (either they go to church because their parents did and it is a social habit in their area) and/or they go because they can get good business contacts there but they don’t have a Christian lifestyle only learn the religion understanding, or they are at church every time the door opens because they believe they are ‘serving’ god because their church has become their god. Regardless these groups are easily led – according to research:
People would rather let bad things happen than cause them, especially if someone is watching (March 8, 2011) — People are more comfortable committing sins of omission than commission — letting bad things happen rather than actively causing something bad. A new study suggests that this is because they know other people will think worse of them if they do something bad than if they let something bad happen. … > full story
More on this to come I’m sure.
Nancy, The idea that god has a son is absurd and taken from much older religions. This idea that the bible is the true religion is nonsense. The bible is full of all kinds of horrible commands, acts and ideas, hardly the work of a loving creator. Once you take the encoded physics out, religion is nothing more than a disease of the mind. And I say that as a former Christian.
“The idea that god has a son is absurd and taken from much older religions.”
Spirit Splice,
You speak of an encoded physics, but how carefully have you read the Giza Death Star Destroyed in light of what I have quoted from you above?
To put this in slightly different terms, if the One hyper-differiantially becomes Many, what are we to make of your statement there.
In contradiction to your statement, perhaps the older religions are attempting to maintain and preserve a significant fact.
-photios
maybe the idea of God being triune, and one of the them being
based in the topmost in a way like being begotten, the other one
like being spirated, was inherent to primordial times before the
so called older religions, and polytheism merely twisted this.
that second one of the Three would be like a “son” and would be the
logical one to be Incarnated. as for the one giving rise to the many,
if the one is some (maybe semi conscious) prima materia where did
it come from? the manipulatable ether etc. cannot be God, because
it IS manipulatable.
*sigh* … oh dear….
Christine,
There is no reason to posit divinity above the physcial medium, as a One standing above the One. In fact, to think so, would collapse the whole argument on itself.
I could say more, much more, but I am currently working on a book on this topic and don’t wish to give away the details.
-photios
Dimensionsal physics explains the paradoxes of the Trinity and many of the atrributes to God. See astronomer Hugh Ross’ book Beyond the Cosmos. A very fascinating look at science & religion.
There is a lot that is explained by it…
Spirit Splice
As a former apostate, ex-consummate alt-babbler,ex- Freudian, ex-student (literally) of Norman O Brown, and former psychiatric professional (17 years), I must say, categorically, that the disease is not in the traditional religious point of view , but in the the Cartesian dualism with its dogmas of secular humanism–the Enlightenment as it were–which has lead to the reductionist thinking you are presently espousing. Today the dogmas of secular humanism are in the drivers seat, and those who espouse them have become the Inquisitors.
Its scary how much this parallels a supposedly fictional concept album by Nine Inch Nails called Year Zero in which fundamentalist Christian crazies take over the government and march through the streets policing your life and thought, all the while the government is putting hallucinogens and docile-making chemicals in the water to convince people that the end is occurring to their design. I always get scared when I see life imitating art especially when its scary art.
Sounds like the good ol bad days of Catholic Europe with machine guns. Think of the torture devices they have now to make heretics confess.