THOUGHTS ON THE WALL STREET PROTESTORS
If you're like me you've probably been channel surfing, watching the American news media's "coverage" of the Wall Street Protestors. And if you have, you, like me, are probably wondering just what the heck is going on. I've come to certain tentative conclusions, which I share here:
(1) The protest is "genuine," in that it does represent an expression of genuine anger and frustration of the American people over the rudderless "leadership" of both political parties, over the fact that not one of the financial oligarchs responsible for the financial meltdown, the fraudulent mortgages and credit default swaps, have gone to jail. It is a genuine movement born of a cynicism in our political and financial institutions and their almost total unresponsiveness to the public good. It is a protest against the cynical and radical corruption that dominates the corridors of corporate and government power;
(2) The American media is doing its best to portray the protest along ideological - left/right, Dummycrook/Republithug lines, and indeed, if you've been following Faux news, there is a deliberate attempt to interview only the witless extreme left ideological morons in the crowd of protestors, and to portray the entire movement as nothing but radical socialists and indeed communists. It is, in short, the energy that the news media is expending to channel the protests into these ideological lines that makes me suspect that the power elite - to use C. Wright Mills' term - is scared, or at the minimum, at least concerned. When one sees the likes of Nancy "Do It in the Middle of The Night, just Vote on it and then we'll see what's in it" Pelosi, saying "God bless the protestors" while at the same time her relatives are in the receipt of huge largesse from the Obama Administration, then you understand how truly corrupt the institutions and people running them are.
What disturbs me, however, is how quickly the protests have been co-opted along the familiar ideological lines. Consider only the fact that the protestors cannot distinguish between corporations and cartels, which is essentially the phenomenon we're seeing. The other thing that disturbs me is the mis-directed targeting: Why, for example, are there no protests of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral commission, and the whole rotten-to-the core interests and dynasties of thugs that they represent? Where are the protests of the Federal Reserve Bank? We have seen protests against the elites before, in Seattle, and, of course, all over Europe, Greece being the premier example, but also in London, not so long ago. These protests are of a piece with them.
But the protestors do need to come to grips with the fact that it isn't "Wall Street" that is the problem; the problem is deeper, and lies with the whole edifice of corrupt central banks, of corrupt ratings agencies, and the dynasties behind them. The protests are rudderless and directionless, and that too, should give us pause, for in such vacuums demigogues often step, and behind them, their manipulators. When a self-evidently corrupt - and very rich - politician like Pelosi can intone blessings on the protestors, we know there is something wrong. And I am not the only one seeing it:
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The Occupy Wall Street movement is the simulation of an authentic protest movement. It has imploded into the mass where it has become a Rorschach, like Obama’s 2008 campaign, that can mean anything to anyone and all things to everyone. Hence, it is inherently meaningless, but can be used by any power group for its own ends. So it is not surprising that the American Nazi Party has officially endorsed and embraced the the Occupy Wall Street movement.
http://whitehonor.com/white-power/the-occupy-wall-street-movement/
LEFT RIGHT are sterile trerms absolutly meaning lest that date back to French revolution the Tea party is a front for the banksters and looers around the world who think only off themselves and donot care about the rest of us and are getting ready to dispose of us soon witness their on going destruction of all our societies and instatutions that have out live there usefullness to them and they will use a global war to achieve those ends. Since they are losing power their motto is lets take the rest of the world to hell with us.
What you are suggesting is very troublesome. I like Chaos theory and Anarchy up to a point. If the Superior, All-Knowing, ALL-Powerful NWO is really not ALL THAT then you may be predicting the extinction of us or our future kin! (I believe Farrell offers us some hope in his belief that the powers-that-be aren’t ALL THAT. Even if they are can you swear on the bible they aren’t, his, is still a good perspective to keep in mind to counter imbalance.)
I am thinking of some gangster held up, cornered or encircled in a building screaming to the FUZZ —“You’ll never take me alive!” Only in this case the WORLD IS HIS/HER HOSTAGE!
If I was the bad-guy in the wrong fox-hole I would take down as many of the good guys as I could only in this case the good guys IS OUR WORLD WE LIVE IN!
Can you think of anything more TRANSGRESSIVE than that! I can think of the final scene in a movie called “White Heat” where JAMES CAGNEY THE MOMmA’S BOY is screaming or transcending— yelling to the cops standing amoung the huge globes of GAS —-I am on top of the world! WHAT A WAY TO GO!
UP IN FLAMES!
Instead of the other article post mentioned where one is in a madhouse room sitting in diapers, ha, ha!
I wonder, (I didn’t read “The Cosmic War” with a fine-comb for I had other books I was reading as well so my focus or attention was scattered?) just before the planet blew up did anyone escape?
What’s the difference if some OUTSIDE force blows up a planet OR some INSIDE MADMAN decides it’s time to end it all and return to the chaos that is FLUX? History repeating itself?
In the French Literary Tradition there is a section of De Sade the Philosopher’s readings that “bug” Rational-Empirical Intellectuals? It’s the idea of a ‘CRIME’ keeps on giving so they say or put another way a crime whose effects are never-ending or eternal-like. The part that ‘TROUBLES these hoty-toty french persons is that if SELF-INTEREST IS ALL their is then why sacrifice oneself!
The answer to that is quite simple but very difficult for brain dead or should I say -emotional(less) Objectivist intellectuals to grasp. It’s a total high of self-destruction! Which is exactly how madmen “addicts’ (in this case addicted to COSMIC POWER) reason or sic think!
If you don’t believe this ask any drunk or dope fiend?
POWER is one hell of a drug! There are thousands of little hitlers roaming the streets especially at night time! That is not scarey in itself because they are essentially powerless. It’s their RELATIVES UP IN HIGH PLACES THAT MAKE ME A BIT NERVOUS!!! HA, HA!
I laugh because I have to because if I DIDN’T then I will end up in those diapers. ( AH, what the heck my father had ALZIMMERS- never had a cold or flu in his life and he was a GOOD-MAN. A lot good that did him. Forgive me for this cynical-pessimist pause. I tend to have a pre-morbid dispositon or Archetype hanging over my neck!)
Thank YOU for your interest. Have a good day.
Good article by Chossudovsky regarding OWS.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27053
Interesting press TV interview:
Between Dr. Webster Tarpley and Dr Michel Chossudovsky
“Mere Protest is for Wimps; Revolutionaries Are Into Taking Power”
http://tarpley.net/
the latter respectively at global research
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=home
I really shouldn’t be posting this much here but — I want to return the favor for the laugh I had by this CHEEK reference FARRELL made. It was a refreshing breath of cool air or a nice breeze while I am shoveling all this coal down here!
I once heard a Comedian joke about BEN and JERRY’S saying, “it was the first time he ever heard of an Ice Cream Company having a FOREIGN POLICY.”
Well B & J now have a poster or advertisement showing a field of COWS and one of them is holding up a sign, “OCCUPY!’
This is a laugh-riot. In this psuedo-democracy we live in — even the COWS get a chance to voice —— MOOOOOOOOOO!
Now I am going to spoil the humor and remind you that George Orwell also wrote “ANIMAL FARM?” ( how does one deal with such DEFLATING SYMBOLOGY?)
By witty-laughing.
P.S. —- I know it’s kind of CHEEKY, —- HA, HA!
I think I am of the same persuation or frame of Mind as Jon Norrris’s comment on Oct 9th, at 1;46PM. IT seems very likely to me as well.
SIDEBAR:
To tell you the truth I cant get past the IMPLICATIONS of the “Notion of “Scalar Physics combined with Vector Analysis? It seems like such a dangerous procedure!
RETURN:
Wall St. and the THEM that RULES bugs me? Do they really rule. Yes. Is it all the time (NO). I think they would like us to believe they do? Why fight them and just join them if they do. WHO KNOWS?
Someone written that they don’t WIN all the time. It’s just the resources they have _ money, technology, manpower, etc at their disposal gives them one hell of an advantage! Kind of like the House Advantage in Los Vegas (but on a much larger scale). The slight 1 or 2 or 3% house advantage places them above all the suckers. (like interest to bankers.) And, well if some card counter (excellent mathematician) comes in — He/She gets booted out of the game as soon as their found out!
This is how I like to see things BUT it may not be so?
I remember reading about the literary creation of horrible gods, or a certain kind of Mythology expressed in LOVECRAFT’s writing. The author contends it was his making up a FANTASY to help embelish and discribe in other words a certain FACT or BELIEF of Lovecraft?
The belief is the possibility of LIFEFORMS or whatever kinds of names one chooses to put NAMES to Extraterrestrial or Interdimensional CREATURES!
The implications of this POSSIBILITY are horror-filled and are frying my imaginative-brains. (this is your brain on cocaine, no – on science fiction – just like that anti-drug advertisement))
So is this Scalar-vector Analysis stuff in Babylon’s Bankers. When you really think about it, it’s true. ( if their is such a thing as IS like they caution in General Semantics?)
Farrell, I am guessing is originally a Theologian by training. (If not what’s he doing with a Piled a Mile High Degree in it!,
Here’s something you might appreciate or enjoy and then you might not because you may have heard it all before, yawn, yawn, yawn, I know the feeling!
The old Gothic curse (concept) of LIBIDO SCIENDI = the love, the passion, the desire for knowing, and for knowing all. or a Faust Wanabe!
Look at all the “Voltaire’s bastards” out their believing they are going to CHANGE Wall ST. I have pity on them for they are like the people who go to Race Tracks and bet on horses with 95 to One odds. That’s ok I guess, it’s fun to fantasize especially when it comes to sex but to get angry when someone informs them winning on such a bet is not likely to happen well watch their “reaction.”
My ‘GLASS IS HALF EMPTY philosophy is not pleasant. That is why I stick to Chaos Theory because of the possibility of RAMDOMNESS.
There is an Archetype called the TRICKSTER. He (?) is supposed to be the “the GREAT Equalizer or Lever(or).
FOX News and Geraldo Revera got sent on their way without a story by the protestors of OWS with the chant “Fox News Lies”, “Fox News Lies”, “Fox News Lies”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzLaYBgC_VQ
This was poetic justice IMO.
Isn’t it interesting that the neocons refer to the Tea Party as a concerned group of patriotic Americans and to the OWS as a mob of malcontents. It’s a worsmith paradise for those intent on directing angst.
The resentment out amongst the people is REAL!
I am not so sure the direction it’s heading in IS?
Two cheeks one the same QUE— That’s FUNNY!
I forwarded this article to several parties involved in the OWS – both left-wing and right-wing. I must say that those few paragraphs comprise the best summary I’ve come across. Hopefully, the recipients will take pause after reading it and look at the big picture.
for those not aware of the coverage of the End The FED protests visit prisonplanet.tv or search it on youtube
Interesting interview with Chris Hedges
Occupy Wall Street (FULL) Interview with Chris Hedges Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SKw2j3XOY0&feature=related
My sentiments exactly. Good article (first one I read here).
People can FEEL the corruption. They know they are being lied to on a daily basis. They KNOW the 9/11 hoax is a monsterous lie and is being covered up by the govt. and media.
People KNOW the same group of Israeli traitors who orchestrated the 9/11 fraud also orchestrated the Wall St. fraud and bailout.
Google “Israel did 9/11”.
Economics is of less importance than the attempt to turn all white countries non-white(GENOCIDE) in the name of “anti-racism”.White genocide advocates have no business calling themselves dissidents.
They support the white genocide being forced on us by the anti-white Establishment.
Anti-racism is used as a justification for the genocide of white people.
Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.
Ron Paul is False Hope for those who think he is NOT under control.
Even the media is used, pretending to those who are now grasping at straws,
that THEY and THEIR Controls don’t want him.
If he wasn’t serving a useful purpose for THEM,
he would have been gone before you could say,
“Ron Paul?”
Oh yeah, I think I remember him !!!!
I hoped you where wrong, but I think you might be right. Libertarianism can be a dangerous deflection. The best control is to lead the opposition, if such is the case, there is not much hope against the fascist takeover and if they get America, they got us all. But judging the man I cannot detect him as fake either, so are they letting him lead for a calculated outcome? or is he corrupt leading to the outcome?
Don’t lose any sleep over it, Normann.
THEY are out of time; and THEY know it.
THEY are the ones really grasping at straws.
Sign me,
now0won
hehehohohaha
And if you be right, my suggestion of connecting the head (ex Ron Paul) to the body of “occupy wall street” movement would be the most dangerous suggestion there is! Anyone who can bring more fleshy facts to the bone here, I think this might be a very important nexus to investigate. Deflection by truthful words are worse than any lies can be.
Yes, you are right about that.
I was once confronted, but could not let on to the truth,
yet that’s what saved me as it was seemingly
quite unbelievable anyway.
So I revealed it in a very sarcastic manner and it
worked just like I thought it would.
Good thing I had already braced myself for what came next.
But my father gave up asking.
So it worked like a charm.
It isn’t very original, but still works; especilly considering
who had REALLY called me.
My pop had heard me repeat a first name, fortunately quite common.
People always seem to overuse what works—
because it works !!!
If it was a genuine protest, it has long since been co-opted. Any such movement which threatens to address real issues with any real power will be dealt with quickly by the infiltrate and misdirect methods perfected during Cointelpro.
Even the Anonymous group has bee infiltrated by now.
I stopped watching TV over a decade ago, and now cannot stand more than a tiny bit of it. (While I do stream movies and a couple of TV shows I like, it is without commercials and the attendant interruptions of meat puppets and twinkies.)
I have done enough research on mind control and psywar ops to know one when I see one, and US TV is basically one big psywar op. I encourage people to avoid it, as it can poison the mind in subtle ways. I had acquaintances in the intel arena inform me clear back in the 80s that at least half of what was on US TV were lies, and I agreed with them from my own experience and knowledge of how ideas and information I knew about were twisted and misrepresented on the “news.” Even PBS seldom got things right.
Whilel the movie “Wag The Dog” presented these ideas in a major way, it was so extravagant and cartoon-like it made these things seem unreal. There is an episode of Babylon 5, called “The Illusion of Truth” I believe, which illustrates exceptionally well how easily visual media are twisted, and should be required viewing by everyone, starting in grade school.
While the media are new, the tactic isn’t – the Roman Emperors referred to it as “bread and circuses,” – techniques to keep the masses fed and distracted.
Edward Bernays called it “Properganda,” and was absolutely, fanatically dedicated to the idea that the elite had not only the right, but the obligation, to use mind control on the masses “for their own good.” His heirs in the PR game carry on in this great tradition of evil, as in the case of the PR guru who changed the term “Global Warming” into “Climate Change” to manipulate people’s minds on that subject. (I think his name was Lunz – I’ll look that up.)
Yes. you are touching upon a point I somehow tried to express in my comment under. I have an uneasy feeling for this movement, I am sure many of them are some of the more informed people in America, but their coherence and discipline and insight into the tactics of power and politics, I doubt greatly. Sooo where would the fight be best fought since already a social movement, inside or outside – the house of representatives and the government – aiming for the bulls eye. I have not been a Ron Paul-er, but who else is there? Sarah Palin and her “great intellect” 🙂 saying – lets bomb Iran Now!! The more I look at RP’s 30 years of political history, he has been “persistent and honest” now in line with the “people” also. But you are probably a wise American, so what is your view on this amazing crescendo to come regarding this.
Theme:
A – Occupy wall street protest: Its lack of a unified message and lack of leadership. Ready to be infiltrated and hijacked.
B – The economic collapse, moral decline and the rise of the Fourth Reich through WWIII.
—
A — The World is at a pivot peril. The awakened eyes around the world are watching upon the American revolt, as well as the European revolt and elsewhere. We know the centuries long history that is behind this “Many Headed Oligarchy” and their sickening Talmudic-Kabalistic ideology now trying to finalize their goals. Their goal being a socialistic utopia of “peace” in a false millennium ruled by the chosen ones ready to sacrifice others in their own conviction in their false prophesy proclaiming a false lord predicted at 2012 by the Talmudic-Zohar-Kabalist priests already 800 years ago and imprinted on the dollar bill as a sign of allegiance. But we have long ways to go still.
Suffice it to say that America is our leading flag and is “Their” prime target enabling the agenda to succeed us all into this one world fascistic domination after the Great Chaos to be brought upon us all. Some walk with a Higher Faith in our sovereign Lord of All, others in goodwill, yet we speak in the one voice of freedom and solidarity. I actually put no trust in any particular man, yet my immediate address here is to our secular topics above, now leading us to our First crescendo towards this long struggle that lies just before us now. We all, who keep the watch, know that something of another magnitude is upon us right now, and especially is this presence felt as we see the grass-root movement stirring up fires and motions. That might at first seem more hopeful, but the way it is happening now has many signs of weaknesses, weaknesses that has been expected by “Them” and will be taken advantage of. (http://tarpley.net/)( Chris Hedges)
A silent revolution and growing solidarity at the grass root would be more efficient, but that is not to be hoped for nor expected, so how could a greater damage be avoided. Knowing the problem and accusing opposition is not sufficient if these revolutionary forces are not brought into a coherent movement, following a more noble ideology, preferably. Some of the end results and tactics that will be used towards this movement will be;
1 – A division from within brought about by infiltration and deviation, as pointed out by Webster Tarpley (one of our best political and historical analyst of today), thus a staged revolt and unrest in the social structure, plus a false proclamation towards a false political agenda (reelection?) and not coherent with the original message this movement intended. Divide.
2 – Sooner and later some violence will ensue, either stage by the infiltrators or, sadly, by the movement itself. It always does with a “headless mass movement”. Thus making an excuse to increase the control of a police state. Conquer.
Webster Tarpely made a worthy suggestion when he expressed: Occupy Wall Street Should Demand a Student Loan Amnesty Paid for by a 1% Wall Street Sales Tax – A Strategy Soros is Sure to Hate.
Sure it is one of the issues that has to be dealt with, yet such strategy only brings us one mile further in this long march from east to west. It seems to me that the most obvious solution to this dilemma is overlooked, and that is to recognize the head that already represent the revolutionary spirit of the body. When I do say this it is with some resentment, in view of my principle that, no man ultimately can replace the One Ideal we all should be looking towards, to think that our secular problems can be resolved with secular means only, overlooking that eventually this time around we are in for the ultimate spiritual refinement and battle in Earth’s history.
B – But in this context I might share what I feel would be the one solution, not hope – that is a different level, to this dilemma, and speaking about a head; we should put the most honest man as high towards the secular political top we could in America; To replace the wicked “obamination” of a president with a man that do represent the true spirit of the ordinary people. Again, I am totally a-politic, but still.
And we all should know by now who that man is; Ron Paul. (Link to a summarizing speech)
Whether he be true or not I cannot say and his to prove, but he has expressed the honest truth regarding politics and hit the Bull right between the eyes, and “They” fear him greatly. Frankly though, I never except him to win the election, it would tear down the Zionist-Satanist movement totally and will not come to pass, one way or another. I would therefore agree upon W. Tarpley that a new and much greater false flag than 911 will come about before the next presidential “reelection”. This to ignite a total chaos in the world. I trust no politician, with Ron Paul there are said to be some freemason connection, but all politicians fraternize in social circles, and the lower blue lodge are vilified sheep and few are dedicated to the higher Illuminate’s agenda. His life, fruits and service grant him a greater trust between all there are to choose from, by no comparison.
Yet, he avoid addressing the real truth behind the 911, and why? I think for tactical reasons, and that it is the smart thing to do, it would be a political suicide otherwise and thus loose all opportunity. This struggle in America now is so pivotal, it considers all nations of the world and thus you Americans should know you have great support and sympathy around the world.
So in short terms; America has a grand opportunity to counterfeit this “inheritance of heresy” if they now could connect the “head to the body” movement, and move as one force, this could avoid riots and Marshall Law to be introduced, though it is actually already in operation.
The drawback is that in this case another agenda and a huge false flag “will” be staged, in either case, America is doomed for a total Chaos and so are we all, but with one huge difference. Instead it be the riot of the movement to be blamed, let “Them” be the hand of their own fate. By connecting the head to the body the process can be as peaceful, controlled and efficient as possibly can be, whatever the outcome, ours are the duty of “the path of righteousness”. Thus, in this case and for being prepared for disappointments; be not deluded into believing you will win the process of political power, but you will gain in the act of innocence”. If this innocence be crushed and sacrificed, people around the world will start to see, understand and join your “movement of innocence”. “Their” Aim is a “false Armageddon” in WWIII, I cannot see that the “saints and good-willed” of this world, now meeting on “the path of righteousness”, can ever stop the insanity of this immense evil power.(Chris Hedges:Theme:
A – Occupy wall street protest: Its lack of a unified message and lack of leadership. Ready to be infiltrated and hijacked.
B – The economic collapse, moral decline and the rise of the Fourth Reich through WWIII.
—
A — The World is at a pivot peril. The awakened eyes around the world are watching upon the American revolt, as well as the European revolt and elsewhere. We know the centuries long history that is behind this “Many Headed Oligarchy” and their sickening Talmudic-Kabalistic ideology now trying to finalize their goals. Their goal being a socialistic utopia of “peace” in a false millennium ruled by the chosen ones ready to sacrifice others in their own conviction in their false prophesy proclaiming a false lord predicted at 2012 by the Talmudic-Zohar-Kabalist priests already 800 years ago and imprinted on the dollar bill as a sign of allegiance. But we have long ways to go still.
Suffice it to say that America is our leading flag and is “Their” prime target enabling the agenda to succeed us all into this one world fascistic domination after the Great Chaos to be brought upon us all. Some walk with a Higher Faith in our sovereign Lord of All, others in goodwill, yet we speak in the one voice of freedom and solidarity. I actually put no trust in any particular man, yet my immediate address here is to our secular topics above, now leading us to our First crescendo towards this long struggle that lies just before us now. We all, who keep the watch, know that something of another magnitude is upon us right now, and especially is this presence felt as we see the grass-root movement stirring up fires and motions. That might at first seem more hopeful, but the way it is happening now has many signs of weaknesses, weaknesses that has been expected by “Them” and will be taken advantage of. (http://tarpley.net/)( Chris Hedges)
A silent revolution and growing solidarity at the grass root would be more efficient, but that is not to be hoped for nor expected, so how could a greater damage be avoided. Knowing the problem and accusing opposition is not sufficient if these revolutionary forces are not brought into a coherent movement, following a more noble ideology, preferably. Some of the end results and tactics that will be used towards this movement will be;
1 – A division from within brought about by infiltration and deviation, as pointed out by Webster Tarpley (http://tarpley.net/ – one of our best political and historical analyst of today), thus a staged revolt and unrest in the social structure, plus a false proclamation towards a false political agenda (reelection?) and not coherent with the original message this movement intended. Divide.
2 – Sooner and later some violence will ensue, either stage by the infiltrators or, sadly, by the movement itself. It always does with a “headless mass movement”. Thus making an excuse to increase the control of a police state. Conquer.
Webster Tarpely made a worthy suggestion when he expressed: Occupy Wall Street Should Demand a Student Loan Amnesty Paid for by a 1% Wall Street Sales Tax – A Strategy Soros is Sure to Hate.
Sure it is one of the issues that has to be dealt with, yet such strategy only brings us one mile further in this long march from east to west. It seems to me that the most obvious solution to this dilemma is overlooked, and that is to recognize the head that already represent the revolutionary spirit of the body. When I do say this it is with some resentment, in view of my principle that, no man ultimately can replace the One Ideal we all should be looking towards, to think that our secular problems can be resolved with secular means only, overlooking that eventually this time around we are in for the ultimate spiritual refinement and battle in Earth’s history.
B – But in this context I might share what I feel would be the one solution, not hope – that is a different level, to this dilemma, and speaking about a head; we should put the most honest man as high towards the secular political top we could in America; To replace the wicked “obamination” of a president with a man that do represent the true spirit of the ordinary people. Again, I am almost a-politic, but still.
And we all should know by now who that man is; Ron Paul. ( http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/ron-paul-we-have-crossed-the-rubicon-towards-empire-and-tyranny/ )
Whether he be true or not I cannot say and his to prove, but he has expressed the honest truth regarding politics and hit the Bull right between the eyes, and “They” fear him greatly. Frankly though, I never except him to win the election, it would tear down the Zionist-Satanist movement totally and will not come to pass, one way or another. I would therefore agree upon W. Tarpley that a new and much greater false flag than 911 will come about before the next presidential “reelection”. This to ignite a total chaos in the world. I trust no politician, with Ron Paul there are said to be some free-mason connection, but all politicians fraternize in social circles, and the lower blue lodge are vilified sheep and few are dedicated to the higher Illuminati agenda. His life, fruits and service grant him a greater trust between all there are to choose from, by no comparison.
Yet, he avoid addressing the real truth behind the 911, and why? I think for tactical reasons, and that it is the smart thing to do, it would be a political suicide otherwise and thus loose all opportunity. This struggle in America now is so pivotal, it considers all nations of the world and thus you Americans should know you have great support and sympathy around the world.
So in short terms; America has a grand opportunity to counterfeit this “inheritance of heresy” if they now could connect the “head to the body” movement, and move as one force, this could avoid riots and Marshall Law to be introduced, though it is actually already in operation.
The drawback is that in this case another agenda and a huge false flag “will” be staged, in either case, America is aimed for a total Chaos and so are we all, but with one huge difference. Instead it be the riot of the movement to be blamed, let “Them” be the hand of their own fate. By connecting the head to the body the process can be as peaceful, controlled and efficient as possibly can be, whatever the outcome, ours are the duty of “the path of righteousness”. Thus, in this case and for being prepared for disappointments; be not deluded into believing you will win the process of political power, but you will gain in the act of innocence”. If this innocence be crushed and sacrificed, people around the world will start to see, understand and join your “movement of innocence”. “Their” Aim is a “false Armageddon” in WWIII, I cannot see now that the “saints and good-willed” of this world, now meeting on “the path of righteousness”, can ever stop the insanity of this immense evil power.
(Chris Hedges: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulk9omojT9g&feature=related )
Thus to be prepared and to see it as our greatest opportunity to increase in the reward of spiritual growth; our true force is the force of Love, only.
Thus to be prepared and to see it as our greatest opportunity to increase in the reward of spiritual growth; our true force is the force of Love, only.
doubled text confusion happened??? and I cannot edit sorry, maybe J Farell can sort it out.
“Zionist-Satanist” really you want to believe that Nazi crap?
Not sure if we miscommunication, or I might have expressed myself unclear, apologize for that my comment got confusing as i was in a hurry.
Whatever we call this many headed beast their ideology is the same. The Zionists where one of the parts that formed the Nazi party in 1923, if you read upon history. But it seemed this site might have become to Nazified, that all has to be about the Nazi, they are an important part of the beast for sure. but as everything in that confusing “dark secret society” centuries upon centuries old; they where one of the heads that popped out from a deeper concealed body.
hope you find Webster Tarpely and Chris hedges interesting though, as my focus was in our present happenings 🙂
Then don’t go posting about “Zionists-Satanists”, it’s a favorite subject of “christian” identity types.
Hedges isn’t posting on current happenings? That’s news to me.
Sept 30: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/09/30-0
Methinks many who claim to be able to identify a “Satanist” sure apprehend the subject.
Jay, you are too full of yourself. Tried this group before, and when the crown of all &#%#/”)……., benjamin fullford posted this site all bowed down in awe. What is this site, a perfect collection of gnostics chief and atheists submisjons.
Don’t bother answering – I am out of here. Need people who can reflect with a broader spectrum, being tolerant and respect others experience and insight of things you seem to have little comprehension of. from you there is but remorse and despite, do you have any insight to bring to the table other than commenting on others your wise opinion do not tolerate.
bye bye.
What do the nouns “remorse and despite” mean here?
You clearly haven’t read much of this blog or the comments. What is your problem with Gnostics and Atheists?
It’s you who threw in the Satanist accusation, still a favorite of the christer types.
Okey Jay – Gnostic and atheist- to me nothing – I am tolerant to all views as long as attitude and intent are good and expect likewise treated. maybe I have not read you wide enough, but connection to me is condescending because I hold a Faith I try not to bring in here too much.
Studied gnostics-kabbala-most eastern religions and medicine, m.sci in physics myself and know the physics Farrell talks off 20 years back, and why he attracts me much. geopolitics is a difficult subject, very, for its abstraction and concealment. Zionism and satanism is the secret orders use themselves without any biblical reference if you haven’t noticed, and that strengthens my case back to my Word. I consider all religion an apostasy, Jesus was not a “christian” neither a “Jew” if you understood his message you would understand the gospel is not a religion – How?
No English translations of the bible is correct, neither is the King James version, though the best we have, but should be credited Tyndale not the Rosecrans priestly order and the Freemason – King James, it was a political overtaking of the reformation thus protestantism and all Christianity is a half bread and a bewildered congregation (divide and conquer). I understand the resentment against them but they don’t understand they are mislead in doctrines, yet by their hearts you should judge them as they seek to find meaning and hope..
Religion is the doctrine of power bringing priest and hierarchy among us, The Gospel seeks the hearts of men, accepts no differentiation among us where all are equals under one Lord beyond this realm. Thus it is clear Christianity and the whore of Vatican is not a representative for my Faith, a Faith that considers non others, it is a personal relation I keep to my Lord.
In this world I have only one expression for this Faith, love thy neighbor as yourself, solidarity.
Atheists and Faith can only communicate on the horizontal 2-dim plain of ethics and religion/science, and I can relate, Their heart can be as noble as the one I seek, But into the reality of a multidimensional spiritual realm we cannot speak, as the atheist has no Faith in a life and reality beyond this one. And that is to me sad, all the colors that cannot be shared in his is black and white paradigm. And even if my Faith is non-religious an atheist will always put me in the box of religious fanaticism cause he have non others, except in some rare cases where exchanging with philosophers and scientists who try and they are some of the best exchanges I have had, as I also delved therein myself. Some of the worst conversations I have is with christian fundamentalists, their minds are locked into a doctrine of a false message, whom of the 30 000 are the correct once?, No One. Well done “Pharisees” of old who created Gnosticism, Catholicism, Protestantism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism, capitalism, bankism and the core now – humanitarian law-ism (actually Talmudism) ruled by our modern priests the Lawyers …ism that interesting, yes they are all Religions.
So where do I fit in to have a wide conversation – Nowhere.
So I better Keep to my writing and studies, discussion forums are to much argumentation/defense and to little discussion/curiosity, and sorry that I reacted towards you if unjustly, for me it is just the same old BS story that I am gotten tired of, I am too old in this game for swallow prattle.
Anyhow: I think you will like to read this most interesting book, pointing at my last focus here.
Woe-Unto-You-Lawyers_FRED RODELL from 1939, outlawed and of course out of print.
http://www.constitution.org/lrev/rodell/woe_unto_you_lawyers.htm
or as pdf download:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20867347/Woe-Unto-You-Lawyers-by-Fred-Rodell-1939
Enjoy Jay, glad you are alert.
“My Lord”? Doesn’t that kind of inflict your beliefs on others? Unless your lord is some materialist object which would not penetrate my reality.
Only by the way you feel inflicted by your own reaction to it, cause personally between us (alive) if you where atheist (?) I have no interest sharing that topic with you, unless friendly and with respect, as I said it is personal. Easier if we stay materialistic, I am sure we have much common interest in there, and I am eager to learn from anyone.
The Lord does not even in a materialistic objectivity penetrate into my own physical reality, so how can I make it yours. Only in the abstract tense though growth, experience of life, inspiration, and Faith is not conviction. Faith is where you are led to something outside your paradigm and it takes courage, religious conviction is a prison for your mind and soul.
It is like complex mathematics with the real and imagery axis, some equations cannot be solve in real numbers unless you apply complex equations. So in a mathematical sense, the nothingness is nothing, no thing, but it contains function, processes and information tangible and applicable to the material thing, it coordinates, communicate and transmutes. Having fun duping me and you 🙂
Well for what it’s worth the whole number 81, has a whole, but imaginary, cube root.
So who’s to say that all of so called concrete reality isn’t founded upon something else, which is a better term than imaginary.
Those “imaginary numbers” are one of the arguments against faster than light material travel.
I tried, but could not follow that line of thought, let me see if I can reach the gap.
Cubic root is not an imaginary, but imaginary “j” defined “cubic root of -1” is the nomenclature thus designed.
cube root of 81 is just another real number for a real plane arrangement of 9 x 9 row, still real number.
-The last about: the argument against faster than a) light and b) material travel: is a confusion for you. wish I could attach my thesis in electrograviton physics. simplified;
a) “light” per definition is a boson, has no mass “g” but a force field e-m.
b) “material” is a lepton with both g and e-m thus bound to the gravitational flux. and function as a differentiators between the imaginary and real axis.
light as defined by your classical electromagnetic does not carry the “full photon” which is Re + Im = Z (complex).
Re and Im in the physical sense are two halfs integer of the fullfoton. and are both bound to the vacuum stress which determine the speed proposition of light and is bound to the 3-d reality and the “e-m” part is called transversal wave and the other “g” a longitudinal wave.
Z travels not in the 3-d, yet it is non local, that means that if you split an electron “as in the “aspect experiment” 1984″ and send the two half fotons in each direction, then you change the phase of the one – keep attention now – the phase change will happen instantly on the other half even is they where universes between. wholla my friend – we have by material means proved that information travel faster than the speed of light.
But it was not light that traveled faster through 3-d space, but the imaginary 5-G information of non-locality of the vacuum, the higher dimension if you like, the non material realm that functions on a different set, that translated the happenstance between them.
funny thing this physics.
O. Normann says:
Crap you’re right, meant to write one of the forth roots of 81 is imaginary.
And attempted to post this correction last night.
“the world’s problems stem from “the corporations.” They don’t realize that corporations are purely a tool for the larger goal of global governance.”
you hit the nail on the head- too bad most people are too comatose to search for a hammer, let alone seeing a collective nail that is about to crucify their life styles-
“My message to both the left and right is that to the elites THERE IS NO LEFT OR RIGHT! Instead there’s a system that allows the elites to accomplish their goals while giving the impression that the masses have a choice.”
absolutely right- see above under the concepts “comatose” and “collective nail”-
“The left (communism) and the right (cartel capitalism) are two cheeks on the same ass.”-
great analogy- I’ve heard even more obscene ones like two facial cheeks surrounding an orifice capable of only spewing sh….
ooh, forget it… 🙂
this commentary was directed as a reply to Bear Claw Chris Lapp Oct. 9th- something’s up with this website’s software- am curious to see how this reply to myself will come through
First, everybody who has attended church, or any other religious meeting, has been told that the possession of wealth (anything more than a bucket to pee in or a window to pour it out) is evil.
The same people also tell us that our material bodies are evil and that “self sacrifice” is a virtue. Turning on ANY television show for the last 50 years re-enforces these same themes. No matter what people profess, it is likely, VERY likely, that these are themes that stand under their psyches and these will manifest themselves as the fruits that those people bear. So Wall Street is their target of first choice.
Second, everyone has pretty much had instilled in them that faith, belief in something without any proof, can trump reason, belief in the thing supported by the most proof, anytime. So why bother to reason beyond the immediate? Why look through to see the little man behind the curtain behind the TV set? Why ask questions?
As for “is how quickly the protests have been co-opted along the familiar ideological lines,” this one is easy. People have been brain dead, or brain WASHED, for centuries. They just go with the flow and run with the masses.
The Romans thought that Christianity produced excellent slaves and later admired them for their graceful deaths in the games… You must admit they sold the “human body as sinful” doctrine so well that for a couple centuries nobody in Christian Europe washed…St Augustine was convinced that he was sinful ‘cuz he woke up with a woodie… “Bone up” on the early church fathers then engage a Baptist in conversation for some real fun… I agree with Tarpley on solutions and am spreading the Tobin gospel as I am able.. there is hope in our numbers.. best to all..
I am well versed in the Bible and I chew Baptists up and spit them out each morning for breakfast. (While they are fun to chew on, they don’t taste very good.)
I couldn’t care less about “the Tobin gospel” or any other “gospel” or any other writing that poses as moral guidance and yet is based on mysticism; the primacy of consciousness, the divorce of causality from reality.
PS
“There will be no safety in numbers when the right one walks out of the door.”
—Lost for Words, Lost for Words, “The Division Bell,” Pink Floyd
Bear Claw, This is why the elites try to keep people constantly off message. Everybody says there is a race problem. This race problem occurs in white countries and ONLY white countries .Why is that? Genocide of white kids is key to the elites global plans. Anti-racist is code for anti-white.
And where is the genocide of white kids going to happen, in Glennbeckistan?
Stormfront is not a valid source of information.
The genocide of White children is happening in EVERY White country and ONLY White countries. Massive third-world immigration and forced assimilation is genocide, according to the United Nations legal definition of the term.
Many say they are ant-racist, but what they really are is anti-White.
Anti-racism is a codeword for anti-White.
Bull, immigration does not necessarily mean genocide.
Did you intentionally neglect to mention forced assimilation. Of course it is genocide.
If that “immigration” is a wholesale transfer of population in the form of colonies, and into the territory of another nationality, then it is GENOCIDE.
If that “immigration” has the effect of mixing and blending with the “target nation”, and the result is blending the target nation’s genepool out of existence, then it is GENOCIDE.
If that “immigration” forces a host population to dilute their culture in order to be “inclusive” of the colonizing nation, and to change it beyond recognition, to change it into something entirely alien to what it was originally, then it is GENOCIDE.
Only anti-Whites hide behind the weak label of “nation of immigrants”. Anti-racism is just a code word for anti-White.
Gee, I hadn’t noticed Korean, Chinese, Pakistani or Indian (no way a complete list) immigrants to the US practicing genocide against those of European dissent. And many of them assimilate just like those from Eastern Europe in the late 19th century.
Actual genocide: Europeans come to North and South America kill, steal, break treaties and destroy for four hundred years and call the result their land.
Your xenophobia and ignorance is really pretty insulting.
SOP for the criminal syndicates
And think the protests near Wall Street are wonderfully apt; they’re directly accross Broadway from the headquarters of Brown Brothers Harriman.
That first comment was directed at Bear claw Chris Lapp, but the comments screwed up.
Then you give up things of the left, food safety, environmental rules, work place safety, etc, and much more.
You’ve drawn a very simplistic equation.
I support positions on the left and the right. I support the positions you mentioned on the left along with the right to an abortion, progressive taxes, investment in education and opposition to wars for globalist interests.
And I support positions on the right such as the traditional family, national sovereignty, freedom of association, reduction of immigration if not a total immigration moratorium, private property, and opposition to cultural degeneracy.
I advocate something between the left (international communism) and the right (international laissez faire capitalism). This is not to be confused with “centrism.”
I advocate a “3rd Way.”
I realize this is very confusing to people on the right and left. These tools think within a mental template that they can’t think outside of.
The “3rd Way” is actually the most optimal system for the benefit of humanity. Nations will maximize the health, creativity, and serenity of their citizens and cooperate with other nations who are doing the same. There should be no “global elites” who conspire across national boundaries. Instead, there will be national leaders who work to lift up their populations.
The left and right are two cheeks on the same ass. You appear to be a left cheek supporter?
Why then do some many who call for a third way, call for destruction of what is good, yes good, about the left?
I’m too against the division to the right and the left, that makes our complicated world look flat. However what you mean by talking about good about the left? 🙂
You can thank the left for some what clean water and basic work place safety. Then there is the fact that the left in the US backed defeating Nazi Germany, while the right was into appeasment.
The left also got the US out of the illegal, wasteful and pointless war in Vietnam. (Which despite claims to the contrary, Nixon was not about to end.)
Then there’s the whole basic civil rights for people of colour.
Next, remember smog in LA, that’s massively decreased because things like the EPA.
Medicare, Social Security, bank deposit insurance, auto safety, good basic research.
Dr. Farrell brings up an excellent point. In general the left thinks that the world’s problems stem from “the corporations.” They don’t realize that corporations are purely a tool for the larger goal of global governance. When someone has the type of assets that the Rothschilds or the Queen of England (or other elites) have, money doesn’t really matter anymore. It becomes about something bigger.
I’ve tried to explain this to people on the left and they call me the “tinfoil hat wearer.” Then some leftists will say that the power structure is designed for “White Supremacy.” This is of course laughable as its the elites who push for mass immigration into Europe and America (white supremacists generally don’t support 3rd world immigration flooding into the West). This is ironic because the left will support mass immigration out of some sense of “anti-racism” when all they’re doing is assisting the “white” elites that they claim to oppose.
Of course, the right is just as bad. For the right the problem is “the liberals.” The right complains about the degeneracy we see on MTV and then turns around an insists that corporations not be regulated in their conduct. The elites use right-wingers in America to fight wars in the 3rd world and then use 3rd world populations to flood the communities of these same right-wingers. While all of this occurs the left blames the right as being warmongering, white supremacists while the right blames the left for flooding their communities with 3rd world immigrants.
My message to both the left and right is that to the elites THERE IS NO LEFT OR RIGHT! Instead there’s a system that allows the elites to accomplish their goals while giving the impression that the masses have a choice.
The left (communism) and the right (cartel capitalism) are two cheeks on the same ass.
Agree, completely. In fact the words “the left/the right” mean nothing. Moreover, their meaning varies from country to country when what is labeled with “right” is “left” in other community, so it’s really laughable to look at this quarrel. However I personally am against socialistic ideas for the same reason as I dislike narrowmindness of capitalistic thinking along with the childs of european philosophy such as feudalism, nationalism, clericalism, racism and aforementioned socialism (of which national socialism, aka Nazism emerged) that eventually brought the kingdom of war, terror, genocide and blood.