DID THE NAZIS HAVE HELP FROM ET? SOME THOUGHTS
Well, the short answer to the title of this blog is, "no." But I have been inundated with a barrage of emails asking me what I thought of this idea in the past week, and I don't really know why. Well, the truth be told, I don't think much of it. To those of us like Igor Witkowski, or Nick Cook, Henry Stevens, or even me, who have tried our best to do actual research and to reverse engineer the possible physics, engineering, and personnel involved, I must confess that - having done years' of research on the topic - I find it mildly annoying and even insulting that there are those who, looking at all this research, dismissively incorporate it into their large scenarios of ET contact and disclosure, and do so without citing one shred of evidence or one detail to argue that case.
While these stories were definitely around prior to the appearance of Witkowski's, Cook's, Steven's or my books dealing with Nazi technology, what troubles me is that there now seems to be a more major effort either to detract from that body of research, or to tie it in with larger ET scenarios, and to once again invoke ET as an explanation for the incredible explosion of technology under the Nazis. Here, as is so often the case, one hears about "sources" and "insiders" who, of course, cannot be mentioned, who bolster the scenario in question. Like the Roswell story, some of this seems to have come forward in the last few years, decades after the actual technologies we talk about, and again, by "witnesses" with stories of ET contact, or, in yet another parallel with the Roswell story, reminiscences of stories told to them by others, now dead.
What we need, for the story to be true, is documentation that is indisputable in terms of provenance and authenticity, and thus far, it has not been forthcoming, though if the Roswell modus operandi holds true, we can expect such documentation to be mailed any time now, in a brown paper bag with an Albuquerque postmark on it, and no return address, from an anonymous whistleblower, as happened with the Cooper-Cantwheel set of MJ-12 documents. We may likewise expect it to be mailed, not to Mssrs. Witkowski, Cook, Stevens, or me, but to someone already invested in the ET hypothesis.
For my part, I simply have not found it necessary to invoke ET, for as I have tried to document, particularly in Secrets of the UNified Field, SS Brotherhood of the Bell, and The Philosophers' Stone, there are three strands that in my opinion go to inform the conceptualization behind the Bell project: (1) the physics background of unified field theory papers in the 1920s-1930s, (2) the engineering papers of Gabriel Kron from the same period, and (3) the esoteric or occult influences at work within the SS, particularly in the work of SS Bridagefuehrer Karl Maria Wiligut. If the basic conceptualization can be found there, why does one need ET?
And the answer is, of course, one doesn't. I would certainly like to be able to write everything off with the dismissive claim to an ET or "insider intelligence source," because that would sure simplify research and surely be a lot less expensive and a lot easier on my pocketbook: Q: Why were the Nazis researching rotating electrically stressed plasmas as a source of zero point energy transduction? A: ET crashed a saucer and the Nazis back-engineered it. Q: Why was there such an explosion of electronics miniaturization in Nazi Germany? A: ET crashed a saucer and the Nazis back-engineered it. Q: Why did the Nazis develop digital computers under Konrad Zuse? A: ET crashed a saucer and the Nazis back-engineered it. Q: Why did the Nazis develop infrared sites, particle accelerators, lasers, isotope enrichment and (insert your favorite Nazi technology here). A: ET crashed a saucer and the Nazis back-engineered it. Q: Why was the Tiger and King Tiger tank so superior in firepower to Allied or Soviet tanks? A: ET crashed a saucer and the Nazis back-engineered it. Etc etc &c blah blah blah.
I know, I'm beginning to sound like Colonel Corso, and that's my point, because in a certain sense we have him to thank for all this nonsense (and please don't invoke his hidden manuscript that's floating around out there, I already have a copy). ET isn't an answer, it's only the desperate attempt of some to keep a mythology alive. But my suggestion to that crowd is that they should, in their numerous contacts with our visitors, suggest to them that they (our visitors) should really get a better flight school program in place for their UFO pilots, and avoid all these crashes which we and the Nazis apparently are happily back-engineering. Indeed,these people are only to happy to invoke ET at every appearance of any sort of unusually advanced human technology, and even more so when confronted by detailed research, and then in the ultimate volte face, they pirouette on their points and their tights (no wonder I don't like ballet) and fall back on the technical rationalizations of a Witkowski, or a Cook, or a Stevens, or myself, to account for the actual nuts and bolts rationalization of the technology itself. And that rationalization, like it or not, was, is, and will always remain, terrestrial.
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Science fiction or science fact? Myths are the things dreams are made of! And or some times movies. Or Not? If the Nazis were out of the box thinkers and or experimenters. Who is to say they didn’t find a path into a parallel yet alien type universe to ours? Or that they didn’t say fly a plane through some sort of field or effect created by this bell that was tethered to the ground. Say portal or star gate into some space time continu um or Hmm. or even a “window” Glimpsing idea’s from the future and enabling them to create new idea’s to bring back to their time.
A really big anomaly to me is Tesla what we know is he was a PK preachers kid. technical prophet of prophets. And many of his inventions from back then that are seemingly lost could put us back into being innovators in our time. A car that taps into some invisible unlimited power or power source of this aether. And a free and clean source of power for everybody in or on the earth to use or tap into. How many others creativity and new idea’s could be or have been spawned off of his free energy idea’s.
Some how he must have been able to attract or collect this energy from the vacume of space to where he was on the earth using quite possible some sort of Vacume tubes other small electrical comopenents in either a series or parallel configuration or combination of both of his time antennae and consentrate this power to some sort of electric field to run or power an electric motor in a car. I had a guy sort of helping me to try to figure this out! My experiment was with a some what smaller version or an electric Golf Cart 8-10hp electric motor. Sound crazy? Thank you I take that as a compliment. I am still a kid at heart
But who is to say we had to go anywhere to find advanced alien technology and that they are not still living here or on the moon in plain sight or otherwise hidden from sight surrounded by some sort of holographic imagery and or other mind control technology. In a sort of like Star Trek type of “duck blind” type situation or Men In Black type or Fringe type watchers?
Can I mention this David Icke guy interesting didn’t start out to credible but now he is becoming more and more relevent! But really that is sort of how prophesy is even for the real ones you start out sort of vague just feeling your way along and the more you do the clearer things start to become. He speaks of reptilians but what was Satan representative of in the bible? A Serpent? And or Demons? Or Cabals or cults ruling from behind the scenes!
Years ago I looked into this HHO or hydroxy for boosting fuel mileage and cleaner exhaust! The problem is not the hydroxy but the most ineffecient ICE ever is really a technical embarresment to mankind. We have an O2 sensor on the exhaust system? like O2 is a bad thing to have coming out of our cars? Can I overstate the obvious as in how freaken stupid is that? Really the most effecient engine for the hydrogen or hydroxy gas would be some type of rotary type engine design. So in comes this guy with his MYT engine or Mighty Yet Tiny engine and he is talking crazy stuff like a new industrial revolution. And in fact I don’t know if he knows he could be exactly right as his engine both for cars and trucks could be the perfect marriage for this hydrogen or water for gas or Bio Diesel clean energy revolution. Reversing air pollution and the lousy currant ICE impact on our environment and in our current time. Maybe not free but a heck of a lot smarter and cheaper not only that he is not targeting the new car market but instead a retrofit replacement engine for used cars.
I would be more than happy to replace my current engine with something like this. Only about the size of a car alternator or generator. And guess what the Russians are already doing it with a new hybrid car running off of natural gas coming out some time this year. Hmm? What could be more natural then hydrogen? You can talk about patent infringement and anything else! But I can pretty much say if it wasn’t for the Russians this guys idea would already be on a shelf some some where collecting dust either by an oil company buyout or our very own US government for national security or labeled top secret by the military for how long?
Well its off to church need some serious prayer work ask God for some sort of spiritual compass to where he wants me to head and or do since I no longer am gainfully employed and about to lose my home. Sign of the times I was trying very hard to avoid one of them railroaded on trumped up charges type deals I never been a real good butt kisser.Oh well I been through this before maybe I should write another book! Na I don’t think so I am more of a note taker than an actual writer.
DARK STAR is an incredibly informative book. On my second reading now and taking copious notes as to research some intriguing technology on the Net (google images for visuals are the best).
Then I saw on “Ancient Aliens” the show that stated a UFO landed in Germany in the 1920s and the Germans ‘back-engineered’ it – ALONG with the girls of the Vril Society channeling aliens from Alderbaran and bingo! Hanuebu 1 comes into being. Whew – guess that clears it up 🙂
It’s a big universe. While I highly respect your work, Mr. Farrell, you have to admit – ANYTHING is possible. I do agree that most UFOs are probably German-made, but as to where they ‘got’ the technology (ahead of the Americans to be sure), one should keep an open mind.
Yes , keep an open mind. It wasn’t too long ago that we were informed about the bell, farmhall transcripts, Kammler, Schauberger, Ricther, Gerlach and all the other amazing scientists & Nazi tech. They were digging at ancient sites around the world, channeling, remote viewing… whatever might help them. They may have contacted an ancient race inTibet . All the information isn’t in. Churchill’s remark that the masses would never know the secrets of the third reich. I agree about Dark Star and also on my second read.
The nature of ‘true’ power is beyond any and all documentation. ‘ETs’ only contact humans who have no need for documentation. If said need were to arise such humans would loose their ‘connection’ I suggest you begin research into language: A magistrate for example is a magus/a.S.T.a.Ra or magick-star as in the magi who followed a star to find baby Jesus. The incense served to purify the body-electric of the newborn. Magi are aware of ‘germs’ in the electromagnetic matrix of bodies. Can something such as what I am speaking of be documented? You might as well try and document the Egyptian K(h)a.
It’s “Kookaracha” once again.
Here is a horrible, chilling, thought.
What if the Nazis did win the Second World War and then sometime in this century, using super technology, created an artifical virtual reality Earth, which is the world you and I live in, to see what would have happened if they had lost the war.
Another words, this Earth which we call home, is just an illusion running inside a giant Nazi super-computer.
Maybe they have already run the historical scenario as it would have happened if they have lost the war, and now are re-running it just for kicks, and adding and subtracting events for laughs.
An historical research tool turned into a Nazi Disneyland.
Maybe Big Nazi is watching you.
Also, in the tradition of Fritz Leiber, what about all those alternate Earths where the Nazis won the war, and how about if they decided, in one of those alternative Earths, to start taking over alternate Earths where they lost the war, another words a kind of sidewase attack on alternate Earths to turn them all Nazi.
I would be curious to visit an alternate Earth where the first and second world wars never happened, where the Russia, China, etc were never taken over by the Marxists, where the Nazi’s never gained power and Hitler ended up as an advertising artist, and Europe in the 20th Century was the first superpower, and the USA just a kind of hopped-up Australia.
Imagine if all those young European men hadn’t died in the First World War, and the brilliance of Russia had not been snuffed out by the Bolsheviks.
Joseph, just a quick question: WHO FOUGHT IN THE COSMIC WARS???
Anyway, have a great Christmas and I look forward to reading your new books in 2012.
I refer to Dr. Farrell’ Red Ice Radio interview “Reich of the Black Sun” where he states that there is absolutely no evidence the there was a crash/landing/contact between ET’s and the Nazi’.
So folks, how did the Germans/Nazi’ get so far ahead of everyone else in phisics. You have to consider the three muskerteers GERLACH-THIRRING-APPS etc, I mean these were some of the finist minds in the world back then.
My opinion in how the Germans got so far ahead is, that they either dug it up, or found documentation to give them the “jump start”.
It is inconceivable that they just fell upon the technology that gave them the “Bell”, they must have found “something” to enable them to be so far ahead. They went to Tibet and they were also all over Iraq and Iran, sound familiar?
Speaking of Henry Stevens, I just finished DARK STAR and since you figure so heavily in his findings, I wonder whether you have additional remarks — especially concerning his take on Cold War history.
“and do so without citing one shred of evidence or one detail to argue that case.”
Which is why your books are so valuable: you argue your case, and sometimes make a very good case, even if you cannot prove your case.
Even when I just can’t imagine that you are right (for instance, that some remnant of the Nazi’s are still a force operating in the world), I am convinced by your arguments that it is at least a possibility.
A semi-credible guest on some lame ufo-show once said that Werner Von Braun actually said the words “we got help” from “them” or something along those lines. And he could have been entirely truthful without ever having made actual contact with anyone. We know the Nazis were fanatical archeologists and as Joseph points out so often, they scoured the Earth and held onto anything in ancient mythology talking about scientific metaphors.
Maybe they did get help by collecting, studying and deciphering ancient documents? Trying to imagine BOTH as being true helps with so many problems..
First of all, big-time LOL at the “Q & A” at the end of your article. Literally laughing out loud. Your droll sense of humor is a great complement to your intellect.
I’m wondering, what is your opinion of Richard Dolan these days? In the past you’ve been very positive about him, and the two of you are definitely on the same page with the “breakaway civilisation.”. But do you entirely discount his books on a UFO presence such as “UFO’s And The National Security State” — or are you only discounting the UFO / Roswell stories here?
Thanks again, I look forward to each new blog entry.
I am skeptical of the “reverse engineering” theories, too, and even of the Greys, and of flying saucers from another world, in general.
Well, we are all plagued, and haunted, by our own personal fears and theories about what, or whom, has made and continues to make our world a chaotic, miserable, mess.
I think we can all agree that our planet is not the home of “happy face” and that things are terribly, and horrorifically, wrong here.
I prefer the spiritually evil scenario, but I do not believe that human beings are responsible, or guilty, of sinning in the garden of Eden and thus bringing evil into the world. That, in my opinion, is ridiculous crap.
The evil mess preceded us. Evil is older that Christianity, and it has been programmed into the existential sub-structure of matter itself.
Who programmed it… for brevity sake let’s call it, “the cosmic Caligula”….. sadistic, and literally, mean-spirited…
This explains why I have no faith in “technology as salvation” …. forget it…. the Transhumanists are whislting past the graveyard.
Hmmm…. there is both a “top-down” evil, and a “bottom-up” evil…. emanational, and evolutionary
Farrel is rolling his eyes, again ….well.. six of one, a half dozen of another …
Hey Tim Fonseca, I enjoyed your post VERY much. I sure like your ideas on the “Cosmic Caligula” (great term!!!) and the sadistic hand that’s so powerful on our little planet. I don’t understand the now-popular rejection of Dualism, i.e., “there is no Good and Evil, just think happy thoughts because Evil doesn’t really exist.,” or worse, “Man suffers because he sinned in the garden” — what a tragic mind-f### that’s been.
I guess the one thing that gives me hope is hat no matter how hard the powerful “Cosmic Caligula” has tried, It / He has never been able to completely destroy the wave / ribbon of Love and Kindness — Divine Compassion, I guess — that still exists in our species and our world. Take that, Caligula..
Joseph,
My comment is completely off topic: it’s about your music.
I’ve been listening and deeply enjoying classical music all my life, even when a teenager with my headphones while my buddies were playing heavy metal. I’ve listened to noteflight.com users, sibelius online users etc.
You’re actually the best one by far. Your stuff is first rate. You could have it played by any orchestra I believe. Its not trying to sound great, it just is. It demonstrate a first class mind.
I was floored. I mean, what the hell is this guy doing writing books when he has that sort of skills? He should be in Hollywood making a fortune. I wish you would have more music available. I’d pay for a cd.
I’m posting this to know how my peers in your community feel about your music.
Cheers, and do write more music!!!
Thank you Antoine, that means a great deal to me.
Hi Joesph, if such highly evolved spirits were; why do they need spaceships for their meatloaves theyre hauling around. how about just tachyon light particle beam acceleration travel.(i just made that up) spirit beings who travel interdimensionally, and can take over any life form they which,especially with a pineal gland attached to a silver cord. perhaps they dont have to enter the flesh,like a usb cord and experience everything the human is,and influence their decisions? –
Joseph, but do you still think there might be some truth towards the vril society part? I mean didn’t they really exist, what’s your overall opinion about the vril, psychic occult contact? I mean even Jim marrs thinks there might be something towards it.
THey existed but as for the contact I am quite skeptical as there is only one source, of dubious background, that mentions it. Even if it happened, I am still quite skeptical dinsce we lack any hard DATA about what was said.
I think the reason Nazi war propaganda continues is because it is the basis for the program of white genocide being pushed in EVERY white country. Object to multi-racism in each and every white place, even the family, and you are labled a Nazi.
SEIG HEIL DUMMKOPF
Me thinks the lady [JPF] doth protest too much…to the tune of an article on his site and how many books?
Sorry – correction
In my reference to Mulder – he is not the current form of US Society but rather the current form of ” US Bureaucracy”.
He is part of system that is corrupted/infiltrated, but is searching for a way out. He has his guardian angels who keep him abreast of things but that is the extent of it. he is pretty much on his own trying to look for answers and a way to extricate himself from his past.
Thank you!
Dr Farrell,
You deserve all the credit for cracking up the “ufo/alien” code word. Although I have some problems using the term NAZI. I would much rather make reference to them as “the Industrial Consortium/scientists that sought refuge out of Germany following WWI & WWII to escape outright confiscation”.
I know it is a long sentence, but for those who take the time to hear it, can make a hell of a lot more sense than the word NAZI; which in my view alienates and reduces the magnitude of the issue. For once, I don’t think Hitler was ever in a position to call the shots on the grand plan/scheme.
As we go back through references made to “Aliens” by famous people, one only needs to superimpose that long sentence to actually come up with something more credible:
1.- Churchill came out of retirement because he was concerned about the “UFO/Alien” threat.
2.- Eisenhower met with “Aliens” in South America.
3.- Edgar Mitchell saw an “Alien” in the launch-pad.
4.- The Truth is out there – Chris Carter: “Mulder’s dad entered into a deal with “Aliens” and sister Samantha was given away”.
Cracking up the metaphor laid out in the X-Files: US Scientists(or Eisenhower) gave away their country to another group of “cigarette-smoking” scientists who later infiltrated all government institutions: CIA, FBI, etc…
Mulder himself-current form of US society- is the illegitimate son of one of those scientists. Was Mulder’s mother raped or did she volunteer the act? That remains the question mark.
The means to reach the technology that had to bring back the lunar module to earth could have been the base of the exchange, as per your and Richard Hoagland’s findings.
I agree…good for you Dr Farrell. I encounter what I call “ET Believers” all the time on AboveTopSecret.com and I honestly find them to be as hard to reason with as any Bible thumping, fundamentalist, name it and claim it, my way or the hyway radical Christian eager to condemn everyone to hell that doesn’t accept their jot and tittle.
One may as well just nod their head smile and proceed with life when encountering “ET Believers”. To engage them is a loosing battle and waste of valuable time, imo.
I have no reason to doubt that ET’s may exist. But I have yet to be impressed by the so-called evidence. Most of the time the “ET Believers” will equate UFO automatically with ET. Such TV shows as “Ancient Aliens”, which only ask questions in such a manner as to imply answers, don’t help in educating the public either, imo.
Thank goodness for JPF and Peter Levenda!
Next time , why don’t you really speak your mind Joseph 🙂
While I believe in the possibility of life other places than the surface of our little mudball, I heartily agree with JPF. There is nothing sufficiently advanced in the Nazi science bag of tricks to even require one to look to ET sources.
Part of the problem is that so many people are so woefully lacking in basic scientific understanding. They think that every great new development made is instantly announced to the public, and that our scientists know it all and are wonderfully philanthropic and generous. The are pathetically misinformed about the state of our knowledge and whence it came.
The airship mysteries of the 1800s are a good example of people not having decent educations today. In sighting after sighting of airships by people in the 1800s, the overwhelming majority of common people simply accepted them as new inventions by secretive inventors. No ETs, no superstitious panic, no freaky doomsday scenarios.
Most people simply do not realize old most of our science really is. Many medical instruments (not electronic but manual) have not changed significantly in shape or function since the time of Galen (over 2 thousand years). Physicians from either time would easily recognize and be able to use many of these instruments. There was even a TV special devoted to this topic, yet most people simply do not know this. There is precious little difference in the available technology from 1800 to 1900. People were experimenting with the technology which became vacuum tubes even earlier than the 1800s, and the technology to create radio had been around for at least 200 years before Tesla patented it. (No, it was not Marconi – he ripped off Tesla’s patents – and there were other precursors to Tesla’s work.)
Of course such people will have trouble telling ET from TV, even without all the PR, disinformation, and psywar ops.
The reason the Nazis made so much progress was that they simply removed a lot of barriers from research and let people investigate more things more freely. In other words, they removed most of the controls on innovation. OF COURSE they would make 100 years progress in 10 years – our scientific community is being intentionally restrained, and has been for some time (since at least the 1880s and probably before that). The Nazis simply turned their scientists loose with some resources, something Stalin also did with his people after WW2.
The only place this happens in the West is in black projects, and that technology isn’t meant for “the likes of us.”
The Nazi’s are running the US and UN.
see http://wellaware1.com
It is a psychological thing which, of course, depends on and derives from the underlying philosophical principles of one’s epistemology.
I concur.
Too much Hollywood in Toonsville.
Maybe on Bizarro World or Super-Earth, ET called home.
Your research speaks volumes to unanswered, or for that matter, unasked questions, concerning the explosion of Nazi technology.
Simply, because of the void that existed before you step in.
“rationalization, like it or not, was, is, and will always remain, terrestrial”-
exactly right- rationalization is a creation/concept of our very limited consciousness- we can rationalize all we want (I try to do it, too) but I just think at the end of the day we haven’t a CLUE about what makes us/the universe tick (subdivision: psychiatry)-
our 5 senses are extremely limited and are more fractionalizers than enhancers- read Michael Talbot’s “The Holographic Universe” for starters-
our brains/engineered beings are only able to perceive/decode a mere fraction of reality- and our reality is completely terrestrial
Great book.
Passed it along to others, who, in turn passed it along.
Once again, thanks for bringing some sanity to the world. I just haven’t figured out who Corso was fronting for or whether he was just given a bunch of bogus info by his superiors. I never bought the ET thing and that’s not to say there isn’t other life forms out there. Also, I think all the stone structures were built by terrestrials who were using a lost technology that will be discovered sometime in the future. What is so tragic is that many of the people involved are highly educated. Misdirection I say.
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It makes more sense that ebe shows up post nukes going off. This creates transdimensional rips that bump into the densities of timespace. Thus they came here to investigate & determine what we were up to. Then comes Roswell and Eisenhower etc…but we all agree we are nowhere near the only life forms on earth, in space or the universe. I understand some have problems with some of that but experience trumps all…oh and you gotta retune yourself like a radio to tap into the other fields out of phase to this reality…
Peace
Douglas have came up with intresting information concerning USA relative Japan, Pearl Harbor and Roswell.
Douglas Dietrich was a D.O.D. (Department of Defense) Research Librarian.
http://www.douglasdietrich.com/index.html
I’m glad you posted this blog, Dr. Farrell. The subjects of UFOs, ET, Disclosure and all of that non sense has no interest to me, nor do the people who go on about those subjects.
The politically correct term is now,
has been for a while,
EBE,
Extra Biological Entity.
This used by an NSA [rookie] agent
asking questions concerning some
sat pics of US soldiers loading something
on the now defunked (desunked?) and infamous, Kursk.
Jerry was shot in the head while watching TV
[that means a ‘friendly’]
VERY shortly thereafter.
And you all ought to know what I think “ET”
really stands for by now; but I don’t think we
need to invoke that one either to explain
some smart science to use stupidly !
The topic is transdimensional. Marry that with Vril super-woo Nazi-voodoo and we’re firmly in the world of ineffable. No point looking for hard evidence.
Hi Charles,
I couldn’t agree with you more!-
by the way, I love your website- many thanks for your wonderful, informative postings-
Larry in Germany
IMO, they don’t like the idea of Nazis building this technology without alien intervention, because of “zee master race” implications.
Yes, I think that is a big part of it. If the Nazis were (and are) that advanced in their ideas regarding technology, what other ideas are they advanced in?
With that said, look at the memes that have been created regarding the Nazis since WWII. The Nazis have supposedly been gone since 1945 but to this day movies and documentaries are made that are comical in their intense efforts to portray the Nazis as the highest epitome of satanic evil. There’s a documentary on the History Channel that between segments will show still shots of Hitler in evil poses to the sound of someone smashing their hands on a piano keyboard. Horror movie music and deranged sounding German accents are common practice.
During the cold war the Soviets were never portrayed as the Nazis are even today. The “Islamofascists” are also not portrayed as the Nazis are and America is supposedly in a war with the “Islamofascists.”
These Nazi films are war propaganda. But why make war propaganda if the war with the Nazis is over? ah oh…
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