GERMAN BUNDESNACHRICHTENDIENST SHREDDING RECORDS OF ITS NAZI PAST
The after-effects of World War Two linger on, this time, in a news story about the German Bundesnachrichtendienst, Germany's CIA/KGB/Mossad/MI-6(I am grateful to Mr. V.T. for sharing this news item with me):
German intelligence service slammed for destroying files on Nazi past
As the article points out, files on employees of the BND - successor to Nazi General Reinhard Gehlen's Fremde Heere Ost or Foreign Armies East - who had Nazi pasts were shredded by the BND in 2007. Well, if we, and for that matter, the German Bundestag committee overseeing the BND, are to believe the BND's story, the whole matter was simply due to the BND getting rid of documents that were no longer needed in its archives. True enough, we might think; intelligence agencies acquire reams of information of all kinds and quickly fill their archives and periodically do such "dumps" of their excess archives. No big surprise there.
Except in this case, the files were of BND agents that were Nazis. Nazis in the service of the same Nazi general who became the first head of the BND after its informal status was "normalized" after West Germany was created. Let's note the date of the article: Nov 30, 2011. IN other words, it was reported while Europe is in a financial meltdown, and while Germany itself seems to be the only viable economy on that otherwise financially besieged continent.
So the timing makes me extraordinarily suspicious, for the only other reason that could possibly justify such document shredding is simply because there was still, to this very day, something about the BND's history and connection with Nazism that makes it sensitive, and necessary to destroy. True enough, the shredding was done in 2007, but the story comes out now.
I have long maintained the suspicion, and it's only that, a suspicion, that the current European meltdown seems a bit oddly coincidental, that the only country thus far not engulfed in the debt conflagration is...Germany. It behooves us to remember that Martin Bormann's "postwar plan" included the idea of a European Federation that Germany would be able to dominate by "elastic political" means, means which, in the financially-gifted Bormann's view, included finance.It's all purely coincidental, of course, that it seems to be Berlin that is calling the shots in Europe...for the moment....
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More of the Nazi post-war myth is shattering as another “mainstream” book takes up the topic. “Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler, the Case Presented” by Simon Dunstan and Gerrard Williams makes the most compelling case ever that Hitler survived. It also outlines many of the other disturbing things JPF has in some of his books (Dunstan & Williams do cite one of his books). This is a must read for all that have been following this topic.
How does one explain Sarkosky’s actions in all of this? He’s been Germany’s lap dog in the recent German conquest of Europe and the destruction of the City of London. One look at him and one can instantly rule out him being a crypto-Aryan. My guess is he is either being blackmailed by NI, most likely for some sexual dalliance with young boys, or he has chosen power, fame, and prestige over his loyalty to the Cabal and the Cabal has not been able to stop him… Elliot Spitzer style. My guess is he is being blackmailed by the Germans. Thus, the whole Strauss Kahn scandal becomes much more interesting. Was Strauss Kahn an agent of the City of London/Cabal meant to unseat Sarkozky? Or was NI demonstrating to Sarkozky how easy it is to destroy a Cabal chump in this new era? ???
I was reading the above postings and got sadder the more I was reading. I think the misunderstanding is due to the very different problems there are in the americas versus european. I think america has always been more multicultural then europe where it is in the last 30 – 35 years there is an influx of first arabs then africans and more recently ex-communist countries. This influx has been and where I live is still unlimited. Those people get free housing, free medical care, free food, GSM and until very resently monthly money. The cities where 30 years ago 95% local population the numbers are now 40% local and 60% from other countries where I live = belgium. Unnessesary to say this led to problems. Unfortunately this was swept under the carpet by the politicians and you where/are a racist if you bring it up. This problem of uncontrolled influx of refugees has been going on in the more welfier countries of europe and in my opinion very deliberetly. That is the reason some very right wing parties are so sucesfull in europe. I think a lot of situations are so vastly different in europe versus USA we both should look out to be played out against each other. You can only play cards with a full deck and for europe I propably have that but when it comes to the USA I think I have only 1/3 of a deck, if that. What I am trying to say is the social engeneering in europe is vastly different from that in the USA by design so we scold at each other witch benefits a certain horrible party we both want to get rid of.
Anyone know if this is actually true? :O
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THE PATRIOT ACT WAS IDENTICAL TO THE NAZI CONSTITUTION
DW: Right. And you’ve got this Patriot Act, which is five inches thick of paper that just spontaneously showed up.
BF: Yeah, which is identical to the Nazi constitution, OK?
DW: Oh my God.
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http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny
Hi Chris,
The Patriot Act is very similar to the Nazi Enabling Act, especially of the centralization of state power into the hands of the President/Fuhrer.
Fine then. My mistake pointed out. Same point holds though.
It was announced from the 2000 census in the US that out of a population of 3million, ONE million was non-white. Very different from 1965,when the population of white Americans was MUCH higher.. In 1998, Clinton told a college audience in Oregon that by mid-century whites would be a minority in America. The ”students’ cheered. Anti-racism is a code word for Anti-White. By the way America never voted on this question.
I would have thought that the population of the USA in 2000 was a little more than 3million. You might want to check that again
Here is the 2010 census
http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-05.pdf
total population of the USA: 308,745,538, not 3million
White population: 223,553,265 representing 72.4% of population not 2million representing 67.7% of population
Non-White population:77,705,140 representing 25.2% of population not 1million representing 33.3% of population
Those describing themselves as mixed race: 7,487,133 representing 2.4% of population.
If you are going to use stats Ridge/sk, then get them right will you?
No real surprise here – CIA and Immigration in this country long ago purged their archives of information about the Nazis imported here, and acknowledged it publicly.
I agree with you that it is suspicious, in that the actual purge was just before the big world economic meltdown began with the US housing market. Preparation for someone taking a closer look at who might be the instigators? I have been suspicious of German banks ever since a very successful mutual fund in this country was bought by German interests, then suddenly started losing money like there was no tomorrow. I barely managed to get out half of what I had in it before the Germans bought it. I believe they eventually ran it completely dry. And this was a fund which had made a profit even during the 1930’s depression!
Then there is the suspicious financial funny business through German banks before 9-11, and Bunge corporation’s half a billion dollar profit from JFK’s murder. I’m sure there are a whole lot more, but those alone are enough to warrant some serious investigation.
I also had heard that there was a huge investigation into massive fraud in the mutual fund markets, but that the evidence was all destroyed in the Towers on 9-11. (Building 7, actually.) Never have heard confirmation of that, though.
I have long felt that the insane mess which has been made of our healthcare and food systems in this country seemed to be awfully well integrated, and most of Big Pharma sprang from the pox-ridden loins of IG Farben. It is not much of a stretch to see Nazi planning behind it, given that a great deal of the bad chemicals and such came out of lines of research begun in Germany. If one steps back and looks at the pattern, it is one of a long, slow poisoning of the slaves generating huge amounts of money which suddenly disappear. What will happen when the economic engine of poisoned slaves is no longer needed? A sudden apocalypse? We know how they treated camp labor when they finished with them, and it is clear that there are those who see the entire world as their own personal Auschwitz.
What better revenge on the US than to slowly poison us while sucking our bank accounts dry, and making us pay twice for the privilege with taxpayer-backed loans from the Banksters?
I do think we are in for some very interesting stuff in 2012, although I doubt it will come from aliens or misconstrued Mayans.
60 years from now some guy will write a book about how the BND was a house full of Nazis.
He will be attacked and labelled as a pseudohistorian, revisionist and loon.
The ‘establishment’ will say: “You have no proof!”
legion Zulus were wiping out the NATIVE population of South Africa, relatives of today’s Hottentots. Zulus were congoids, driving the capoids before them, taking their land. The Boers came north just as the Zulus were conquering southward. The only reason the capoids survived at all is because the Boere stopped the congoids. Afrikaners were the only group who ever SAVED another group. You should stop trying to justify white genocide.
sk,
Firstly I have never justified or advocated genocide of any way, shape or form. I believe that all peoples are members of human family and thus we are all the same and all equal. The only thing you could accuse me of is denial of your so called White genocide, which does not exist.
Secondly I believe that your history of South Africa needs a little revision. You state that the Zulus were wiping out the native peoples, thus insinuating that the Zulus are not indeed native to South Africa themselves. The Zulus and the Hottentots, or less derogatory, the Khoikhoi, arrived in South Africa some 2000 years before the Boers. The Khoikhoi settled around the modern Capetown circa 500BC and the Zulus, a part of the Bantu or Nguni peoples, started arriving in modern KwaZulu-Natal some 2000 years ago. I think both these peoples have a far greater claim to native status than the Boer foreigners.
Thirdly, you claim that the Boers saved the Khoikhoi. Nothing Further could be from the truth:
1. Conflict between the Boers and the Khoikhoi was endemic in the early years of the colonization of the Dutch in 1652. Warfare grew in intensity after the Dutch East India Company appropriated Khoikhoi traditional lands for their farms. Over the next century the Khoikhoi were steadily driven from their lands by the Boers. In the early 18th century small pox, introduced by the foreigners I might add, nearly completed the work begun by the Boers. So there wasn’t much left for the Zulus to wipe out after the Boers were finished with them.
2. You insinuate that the Boers marched north to stop the Zulus. Again another fallacy. The Voortrekkers moved north purely to annex more land, nothing more. The only reason they came into conflict with the Zulus was because of Dingane’s massacre of Piet Retief and his men. They fought the Zulus out of revenge not because of a mission to liberate a subjugated people. So much for the saintly saviours.
Fourthly, the Boers were not the only group to save another group at all. Apart from demolishing your fact of Boer saviours I would point out the Second Macedonian War of 200-196BC where the Roman Republic went to war with Macedon to liberate the Greek city states.After the treaty of Tempea was signed Titus Quinctius Flamininus declared the freedom of the Greeks and withdrew his army back to Rome. Much earlier than your false salvation. Really your history needs a lot of revision.
Finally you should stop falsifying facts to support your spurious claims.
Hello Jay is that you?
“The only thing you could accuse me of is denial of your so called White genocide, which does not exist.”
So you admit you are a GeNOcide Denier when it comes to White people.
Thank you for being an honest anti-White. Why not start a White GeNOcide Denial Website. I know you would start no other.
Question:
As an anti-White, do you also Deny the GeNOcide in Tibet, that uses exactly the same METHODS of massive immigration and forced integration of foreign populations until Tibetans are blended out of existence?
The UN and “anti-racist” groups routinely call this GeNOcide.
Do you DENY GeNOcide in Tibet, Or do you only DENY GeNOcide when White people are the Target?
As for your facts on what is happening in South Africa, they are irrelevant and prove my point.
No anti-White ever uses “facts” to justify the GeNOcide of any non-White peoples.
Care to prove me wrong? Or will you dodge this question, like all anti-Whites do?
White people have been in South Africa almost as long as White people have lived in America. Yet you advocate them being driven out.
Blacks have all but wiped the Hottentots out, yet no “anti-racists” are arguing Blacks should feel guilty and accept GeNOcide for that reason or any other.
The thing I despise about anti-Whites like you, is your arguments are different for every country White people are in but they ALWAYS amount to White people facing GeNOcide, be they in the former colonies, or in Europe.
Funny thing is non-Whites have invaded other lands all through history, yet no “anti-racist” ever uses history to justify and Demand the GeNOcide of any non-White groups and call it “anti-racism”.
Anti-racism is full of contradictions and these contradictions are always anti-White.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
“Yet you advocate them being driven out.”
Correction: You advocate their GeNOcide.
Anti-Whites like Jay, are fanatics and will let not a single White person escape.
“I believe that all peoples are members of human family and thus we are all the same and all equal. ”
Yet you Demand this only for White people.
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
Ridge,
First of all I am not Jay or do I know him personally.
Second: I am White, Anglo/celtic to be precise, living in Australia.
Third: I do not deny the Genocide happening in Tibet, or the Japanese genocide of the Ainu peoples or any other acts of Genocide carried out on any population. As far as I am concerned all acts of Genocide are despicable and ruin the good names of peoples involved.
Fourth: what is happening in South Africa is highly relevant as you brought that up as an example of your so called White genocide by forced immigration of other peoples. The fact is that the White population has always been the minority in South Africa, outnumbered by the native population, not due to forced immigration. So using South Africa was your mistake when the facts of the situation does not back up your claims of what is happening there.
Fifth: “No anti-White ever uses “facts” to justify the GeNOcide of any non-White peoples.” I have not justified the Genocide of anyone so i have no idea how you are applying this too me. Care to explain?
Sixth: “White people have been in South Africa almost as long as White people have lived in America. Yet you advocate them being driven out.” Where have i said that? I have not advocated that and i will not advocate that. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Seventh: “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.” It is also a code word for those against racism in which camp I sit.
Eighth: Correction: “You advocate their GeNOcide.Anti-Whites like Jay, are fanatics and will let not a single White person escape” Again I have never said this and again this is just the case of hysterical abuse by a weak minded person desperately grasping on to any argument to justify their hysterical and false views. The weak always fall back to abuse when they can’t refute an argument and resort to twisting anothers words to suit their own ends.
Nine: “I believe that all peoples are members of human family and thus we are all the same and all equal. ”
Yet you Demand this only for White people. ” Again another example of point eight. I advocate equality for everyone regardless of colour and creed. Are you sure you weren’t on something when you read my reply to sk?
Ten: You say “everybody says” many times. Who is this everybody you refer to? I certainly don’t hear many people say these sorts of things in Australia. Only the minority of highly ignorant and bigoted people living here say that.
Eleven: “I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?” And what pray tell is the Final solution to the Black Problem? What exactly are you advocating here?
Twelve: “But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.” I don’t think that you are a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews but i am starting to believe that you are a naziwhowantstokilleverythingnotwhiteandwhiteswhodon’tsupportyou. You have objected to being labeled a nazi in the past yet you sprout ideas of Racial hygiene, purity of the race and use terms like “Final solution”. If it sounds nazi then more than likely it is. If the shoe fits Ridge then wear it.
“It behooves us to remember that Martin Bormann’s “postwar plan” included the idea of a European Federation that Germany would be able to dominate by “elastic political” means”
The way Germany and all White countries are going, Whites are going to end up a minority in all of their countries, just like they did in South Africa.
Unless I see European nations start discussing the White GeNOcide issue openly and taking action on it, I can’t see what is happening as any Nazi’s plan – unless you are saying their long term goals were “anti-racist”?
Proof:
White people are the only people on planet Earth, that are not allowed their own countries due to “anti-racism”.
Massive immigration and forced integration of millions of Chinese into Tibet, without a vote or discussion allowed. “Anti-racist” groups and the UN routinely call it GeNOcide.
Massive immigration and forced integration of random foreign populations into all White countries and only White countries, without a vote or discussion allowed. “Anti-racist” groups call it Diversity.
Just one of the many contradictions in “anti-racism” and these contradictions are always anti-White.
South Africa was a Black inhabited region until it was invaded and subjugated by White peoples from Holland, Germany and England. South Africa was always Black and always will be. So pick a better example of a White country where your hypothesis fits. That means you can only use European countries as an example as all colonies of any white people, including the USA, where seized by force by the “civilized whites” after wholesale slaughter of their indigenous populations. So come on, give me an example of a real so called White country where the Whites are the minority and not lands which we Whites conquered by force.
Blacks invaded Hottentot land and wiped them out, yet as an “anti-racist” you only care when invaders have White skin.
Contradiction!
So called “Anti-racists” say, people are a social construct (in only White countries), then they say White children are generationally guilty for all these “evils” in history, so these “anti-racists” sure know who is White.
Contradiction!
“So come on, give me an example of a real so called White country where the Whites are the minority and not lands which we Whites conquered by force.”
Anti-Whites ask us what is a White country as if they couldn’t tell an African from and Eskimo. lol
How cute Jay!
Yet these same anti-Whites define a “White” country, every time they open their mouths.
A “White” country is one for which “anti-racists” Demand massive immigration and forced integration.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
And Jay, give us examples of countries where non-Whites conquered by them by force.
Anti-racism is full of contradictions and they are always anti-White.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
First:” yet as an “anti-racist” you only care when invaders have White skin.” Not true, i have said the opposite on many occasions. Again you go off and start making things up and then saying I said or advocated that. Yet another example of a weak, bigoted narrow mind. Grow up.
Second: “So called “Anti-racists” say, people are a social construct (in only White countries), then they say White children are generationally guilty for all these “evils” in history, so these “anti-racists” sure know who is White” Again another example of your hysterical bull. I do not believe that what happened in my country, the genocide of the Aboriginals, as my fault or that of future generations. I wasn’t alive then and didn’t do the deeds so i do not feel guilty. That said i do feel sorry for the Aboriginals and the ordeals that they suffered, but that is not an admission of culpability.
Third: “Anti-Whites ask us what is a White country as if they couldn’t tell an African from and Eskimo. lol” considering these regions are on the opposite side of the world i have not made that mistake. I can tell an Eskimo from an African. Really, what are you on?
Fourth: “A “White” country is one for which “anti-racists” Demand massive immigration and forced integration.” I see nothing wrong for a family from a third world country wanting a better life in a more advanced nation. Also in Australia the immigration quotas have been steadily reduced over the past years since the Tampa incident so massive no longer applies. And as for forced, i don’t recall UN personnel going to third world countries to forcibly round up immigrants to send somewhere else.
Fifth: “And Jay, give us examples of countries where non-Whites conquered by them by force.” Ok the Japanese invasions of Korea, China, the Philippines etc during WWII. Or perhaps the Mongol invasions. Or do you wish more examples?
“Genocide involves the attempt to achieve the disappearance of a group by whatever means. It does not have to be violent, it could be a combination of policies that would lead to a certain group dying out.”
Malcolm Fraser (Prime Minister of Australia 1975-1983)
Jay, I will leave you with this parting thought:
Hitler is still Hitler, even with his name spelled backwards.
Anti-racist = RELTIH
From the hysterical, nonsensical, meaningless babble about racial hygiene, purity of the races and talk of final solutions of the black problem, one would have to assume that you, Ridge are a follower of Der Fuhrer and his ideals, not I
Malcolm Fraser eh Ridge? Great example to use, a prime minister who came to power via a coup. Brilliant, Ridge brilliant, your right wing values are coming to the fore.
For some reason I’am reminded of Yevgeny Yevtushenko/
When truth is replaced by silence, the silence is the lie.
Премьер-министр России очень любит говорить по немецки, а так же имеет особые отношения с Германией. Финансовый кризис Россию не затронул!!! Подумайте над этим.
Why did this committee learn about this? Who dropped the ball?
Of course, there was a former Clinton official named Sandy Berger who got caught removing documents from national archives in his pants. He got caught and is now doing 25 years in Leavenworth.
LOL hahahahaha.
I’m joking of course, to my knowledge Mr. Berger never received justice for stealing documents most likely connected to 9-11.
The average American would be placed in restraints and led to the dept of corrections.
Hmmm yeeaa,
I don’t go much for “coincidences.”
BUT
surrendipy is a horse of a different color.
AndI like horses.
Another ‘S’ word is a Jungian favorite
and I like that, too.
‘Synchronisity’ from chronos, or ‘timing in sinc.’
I always think of ‘existentialism’ (not an ‘s’ word but it will do)
as a branch of philosophy in which there is no inherent
meaning in anything, but the meaning is subjective and up to
the individual.
Jump in anytime.
And about those da*n Yankees, or Nazis;
whatever the case may be.
Like roaches & vampires, they come out in the dark.