MARS MCMURDO IMAGES PART III AND SOME THOUGHTS

The last couple of days I've been showing the enlargements of Mr. Paul McNamara in the United Kingdom of some of the strange things found in the following NASA image of the Mars spirit rover. You may want to refresh your memory of the original NASA image here:

NASA MArs McMurdo Image

 

McNamara Calls this The "Fossil". But if not, could it be machined or artificial?

McNamara's "Metallic Objects"

 

With respect to these images, I cannot but help think we are looking at artificial things in both cases, or, possibly, in the first case, as a remote possibility, a fossil of some sort. But the regularity and rectilinearity of the objects in the last of the images seems to me to smack of a strong artificial possibility.

And this leads me to some thoughts. While our attention is diverted down here with so many problems on Earth - Iran, Europe, the Middle East, the financial crisis - we must not lose site of the fact there is much going on right over our heads, so to speak. If the images that Mr. McNamara has presented do show evidence of artificiality - and I think the reader is best left up to his or her own mind to decide on that - then we are looking at the ruins of a civilization, and very evidently, we are looking at something else: we're looking at a debris field. Once we have said that, then we are led to the question, debris from what? What sort of cataclysm could do this?

Here, until we actually go to Mars and put "boots on the ground" so to speak, we are left to conjecture a case from photographs, and ancient texts and myths. I've done my best in various books to show that there is significant textual evidence from millennia ago to suggest the idea that some sort of war was fought here in our own celestial neighborhood. Silly as it may sound, Mars may hold the key to our own past, and what may have gone wrong. As the world seems teetering on the brink of its own cataclysm, it would be a lesson in my opinion well worth learning.

In short, we must go to Mars.

 

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

27 Comments

  1. DD on March 5, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    We have been sending a virtual armada to Mars for over a decade now. Why would we do this if we weren’t going to go there someday or people still have that slimmest glimmer in the back of their mind of Bradbury’s dead world? NASA and the goons in Washington of abandoned all semblence of a rational space program years ago. We can get humans to Mars in under 10 years. It doesn’t take advanced technology or endless money. Where’s the aerospace industry’s bailout in the wake of the shuttle and the lack of a plan for the ISS? They did everything they were asked to do and not allowed to do what they could do. For 30 years we’ve been stuck in low-earth orbit. We fielded the technology to reach planets in the ’60s! When will we have a leader with vision again? Instead we have fake goals of sending men to an asteroid in a decade. We could do it in a few years, but it will get canceled once we get by the next election cycle. Mars has waited long enough (marssociety.org).



  2. Tim Fonseca on December 11, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    ….minus the conspiracy theories……we will have to wait for the Chinese to land humans on Mars.



  3. Jabrinka on December 11, 2011 at 2:51 pm


  4. marcos anthony toledo on December 9, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    Ttop picture looks like it could artificial or a fossial then there are the pyramids on Mars looks like that planet is not dead. I wonder what the newist rover will revel or more correctly what NASA will let it revel.



  5. Citizen Quasar on December 8, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    It will do NO good to have NASA or any other gobmit agency put “boots on the ground” on Mars, if they already haven’t (but that’s a different story) because they can get the same information by moving the vehicles that are already publicly known to be there…just a little bit closer.

    Here is what happens when they move “just a little bit closer” according to Richard C. Hoagland’s website:

    http://enterprisemission dot com//_articles/03-08-2004/crinoid_cover-up.htm



  6. Charlie Primero on December 8, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    I recently watched a video from 8 years ago where Richard Hoagland excoriated a guy during a panel discussion because the guy questioned the ‘Face on Mars’.

    Today Hoagland is widely regarded as a fraudster who exaggerated evidence for the purpose of selling more books and videos.

    Apophenia can be fun, but it is a dangerous path to tread because so many people have been ruined by it. Even worse, the practice frequently provides rich fodder for every Skeptic hoping to earn Google Adsense money and dissuade the sleeping masses from investigating any ideas outside the mainstream.



  7. bdw on December 8, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    Squarish rocks prove nothing at all: they occur all the time in nature.

    Round, hollow rocks also occur in nature: no proof there.

    While these Mars images might be depicting artificial constructs, they might also be depicting natural ones: in other words, there is nothing to get excited about, until, as you say, we but boots on the ground.

    I am not a “Mars skeptic.” I think the Cydonia objects are very interesting. I think it is very possible that there is a whole lot of artificial stuff all around mars. But the recent pics you have shown here are unremarkable.

    A large rectangular block with obvious wheels at each corner would be way more interesting and suggestive of artificiality. Simple geometric shapes alone, such as a square or a ball, really do not add up to much in the way of evidence. Simple geometric figures could be evidence of aritifciality, but they might not be: since there is no way for us to tell, “not impressive at all” is my verdict. A rectangular block with wheels at each corner WOULD be impressive.

    I will say it again Joe: if you ignore the “electric universe” folks you are going to spend a lot of time barking up the wrong tree, unless you can REFUTE everything they say (and if you can, I would dearly love to see your refutation: seriously).

    I will say again that the Mars info at http://www.thunderbolts.info is impressive. Check out the “subject index” for the “picture of the day” articles. You can also watch some of their recent video at youtube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_T6__JDeyw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-qrnsh83f4&feature=related

    I’m guessing you’ve got to buy the DVD to see the whole thing. Worth every penny. And no, I am not assiciated with this website.



  8. LSM on December 8, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    “we must not lose site of the fact there is much going on right over our heads”-

    yep, both literally and figuratively-

    it’s called “life” in our present stage of development- I just think we/most humans don’t even have a CLUE about what makes us tick (due to our veiled past) and what could possibly be manipulating our existence- yep, it’s goin’ ‘real far’ over our heads- and collective psychiatry is the group most in the dark-

    “In short, we must go to Mars”-

    aren’t we (well, some of our ilk and maybe then some- but we won’t go there today) already there?- I still think Gary McKinnon told the truth; otherwise the US Gov. wouldn’t be so desperate for his extradition-



    • HAL838 on December 8, 2011 at 8:33 pm

      According to Tom Bearden in “Excaliber” ‘we’ have already been
      all over the Solar System.
      I’m still not clear on who ‘we’ are.



  9. Vinnie on December 8, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    There’s no need to burn up even more money going to Mars, or the Moon for that matter. They have spy satellite cameras that can read a letter someone on the ground is holding. You’d think that with putting a better camera to give better clarity and resolution that this problem could be cleared up once and for all, wouldn’t you? Or don’t they want us to know?
    By now, we should understand the game that’s being played on and against us.



  10. Eddie on December 8, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Sorry, I still don’t see seated females, machinery, or skeletons.
    If I may quote the great philosopher Charles Schultz:
    Lucy Van Pelt: Aren’t the clouds beautiful? They look like big balls of cotton. I could just lie here all day and watch them drift by. If you use your imagination, you can see lots of things in the cloud’s formations. What do you think you see, Linus?
    Linus Van Pelt: Well, those clouds up there look to me look like the map of the British Honduras on the Caribbean.
    [points up]
    Linus Van Pelt: That cloud up there looks a little like the profile of Thomas Eakins, the famous painter and sculptor. And that group of clouds over there…
    [points]
    Linus Van Pelt: …gives me the impression of the Stoning of Stephen. I can see the Apostle Paul standing there to one side.
    Lucy Van Pelt: Uh huh. That’s very good. What do you see in the clouds, Charlie Brown?
    Charlie Brown: Well… I was going to say I saw a duckie and a horsie, but I changed my mind.



    • paraschtick on December 8, 2011 at 3:48 pm

      I must be strange. I only ever seem to see Burt Reynolds in clouds and tea cups and puddles on the ground. Very strange hehe.

      But anyway, when I look at most of these kind of pictures, first of all they are ALWAYS blurry so you can never make out any great detail, and so because of that you start reading all sorts of things into it. But sometimes you do see some interesting things, like a picture I saw of an anomalous rock (probably on the same website mentioned) of something that looked very like a fossilised sea urchin or star fish. That was very interesting. Some of the pictures of “trees” taken from orbit to me look like a form of coral. Which if they were taken in an ancient river bed could be at least a possibility.

      Other than ones like that that seriously jump out at you, they could be almost anything. They could be machine tooled or they could be of some crystalline form … or something like mica which sometimes looks like it has been tooled because of its sheet-like structure.

      Like Dr Farrell says without having boots on the ground there, we may never find out. And as for speculation that we have been there already, its a possiblity but ignore what Basiago says. Jeez … he was the one who was talking about aliens having picnics and things. I should know because I was one of the first people to actually comment on what he was posting when he first appeared on the scene. It seems like people will believe brown and squdgy anything thrown at them.



      • paraschtick on December 8, 2011 at 3:50 pm

        That last sentence should have read “it seems that people will believe anything thats brown and squidgy thrown at them” … still can’t quite get that right … oh well … I think you may understand what I mean hehe.

        Best wishes

        paraschtick aka Harvey P.



  11. chris on December 8, 2011 at 11:49 am

    In regards to space, if the Elite has access to these sites in terms of already having boots on the ground , hypothetically speaking, what organisations or organisation would be in top control of this information and or running the show? And would governmental groups such as the US DOD, UK MOD etc have real knowledge of said events?
    Curious on everyone’s thoughts.



    • paraschtick on December 8, 2011 at 4:06 pm

      As to who would have real knowledge? I have for some time now been playing around with this idea on the internet with a website called robtex.com. You can use the site to come up with all sorts of interesting info about a website, its “whois” info etc. From this info you can figure out what the server the website is on, and what other servers its host is connected to. So for instance this is the a page showing some information about Malin Space Systems:

      http://www.robtex.com/dns/msss.com.html?tab=records

      From this you can see that it is connected to NASA via its AS … whatever that is (must figure out all the terminology one day lol). Anyway … so click on that link (AS 297) and then on the PEER link (at the top of the page), and you get a whole host of servers/networks linked to this one. You will see a number of NASA servers/networks including one at McMurdo Sound in Antarctica 😉 . I have a feeling that somewhere in all this mass of servers, networks and whatever, one may be able to garner clues over who may have some inkling about what really is going on. Try playing around with it, you might come up with something that I haven’t thought about yet. Its always worth a try 🙂

      Best wishes

      Harvey P.

      ps Dr Farrell, if you are reading this. Did you know that if you divide the base of the 2nd biggest pyramid at Giza measured in cubits (411 … ish) … by 3 … you get … 137(!!) ?? I thought that might interest you(!?). I can also very easily get to 729 as well using a very simple method. I have found other things that might interest you as well, and they are not difficult to discern … if that is the term. I will hopefully collate it all soon and either put up a webpage or send you a note. I think it may go a little way to prove your hypothesis about the pyramids on the Giza plateau. Best wishes Harvey P.



      • paraschtick on December 9, 2011 at 2:35 pm

        pps … and looking into it slightly deeper, if you multiply 137 by 2 you get 274 … which is pretty close to the (rough) height of the second pyramid in cubits (about 274.5). And thirdly, if you work out the apothem which is about 342.9 cubits, that is about 2.5 times 137. For those that don’t know, Dr Farrell speculates that one of quantum physics most interesting numbers, the Fine Structure Constant should be encoded somewhere in the pyramids at Giza, if the Death Star thesis is to be supported. The FSC being about 1/137 … which is 0.007299… (where the 729 I mentioned above comes in). So using cubits rather than the, in my opinion, (misleading?) so called “pyramid inch” you can find this number in the Menkaure Pyramid at Giza. This may, as I have mentioned already, go a little way to proving Dr Farrell’s Death Star hypothesis.

        (all this is very simple … although I have come across some more complicated things which show that the radii of planetary bodies may be encoded in the dimensions of the Pyramids too … which I believe is extraordinarily interesting … and just uses well known mathematical techniques. No hyper-dimensional mathematics needed … yet … )



  12. Mary linderman on December 8, 2011 at 9:34 am

    I think the elites will make sure only they will or have seen what is on Mars. The rest of us are just slaves to the machine.



  13. markLouis on December 8, 2011 at 9:33 am

    >”until we actually go to Mars and put “boots on the ground” so to speak, we are left to conjecture ”

    Well, we’ve had “boots on the ground” on the Moon, but that hasn’t stopped the conjecture and frustration about what is really up there.

    I think the more interesting fringe speculation is are rocket ships the only way to get from here to there in the universe? Do so-called star gate type passages already exist between various places? Perhaps there are “boots on the ground” all over the solar system, but the people wearing the boots don’t have any reason to blog about it.



  14. HAL838 on December 8, 2011 at 9:15 am

    NASA is finally coming out with the fact that we may
    be hit with a flare that acts like an EMP boom-boom
    but worse by taking out grids, satellites and communications
    world wide.
    I don’t have the link as I go through too much info and I
    don’t know to what extent it may be played down by the
    mainstream media or not even aired.
    BUT
    They are merely blaming this on an active Solar Maximum,
    which is the disinfo part. Yet they sound pretty sure that the
    worst has a very good chance of happening.

    Sorry I can’t remember the site, but I tend not to bother much
    when I already know something, I just move it on.
    I’m sure it’s easy enough to look up and there should be more on it.

    Some one else might find some more truthful and interesting things.
    I do know that their own SpaceWeather page is a lot of whoey
    and has been for awhile, since we have been seeing so many flares.

    There was something about putting us back a century and taking
    a decade to fix.
    Some of this is almost like rerun for me and nothing to worry about,
    since there are other factors involved that will be good, but not
    so good for the Insane World Rulers.

    Oh, Mars !
    Yes, I think we will find out.



  15. Robert Barricklow on December 8, 2011 at 8:59 am

    But that presumes leadership of the ‘right stuff’.
    The only place that EXISTS is, I’am afraid, on the ‘Silver Screen’.
    Any sembalance of true leadership, has simply been ‘Hollywooded’.



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