NEW BIBLE TRANSLATION TO KEEP MUSLIMS HAPPY??
Ok.... in what can only be the latest example of the sort of cheesy, loony, insane paternalistic nonsense , the sort of blithering globaloney one has come to expect from the political correctness and multicultural bilge water of a David Rockefailure, Evelyn de Rottenchild, or their lap poodles Henry Kissassinger, Zbgnw Brzznsk, here's the latest:
Lost In Translation: Keep "Father" & "Son" in the Bible
Yes, you read that right. Wycliffe bible translators, in an effort not to confuse or offend Muslims, are literally distorting the translation of the biblical text. Now. while my co-author on Yahweh the Two-Faced (Dr Scott de Hart) and I have made our reservations regarding Yahwist traditions abundantly clear, we nowhere advocating changing the texts to remove the "offensive material". And really, who does Wycliffe think it's kidding here?
Muslims are neither illiterate, dumb, nor stupid, and they've known ever since Mohammed (and rejected) Christian teachings on the Trinity, after all, their own Koran makes explicit references to that doctrine, and these terms. So, in the name for further not offending or confusing - let us say - Hindus, would Wycliffe kindly translate both the Bible and the Koran and remove all offensive references to images, false gods, and so on? Again, Hindus are neither illterate, dumb, nor stupid, and know full well what the texts of the Koran or Bible really say.
Wycliffe is fooling no one, least of all, the Muslims.
But there is a deeper issue here, and that is our textual and literary heritage in the Western world, and yes, I regard both the Bible and the Koran as a part of that cultural and literary heritage, and thus, not to be tampered with in the name of some kooky political or cultural agenda to remove "confusion" or "be inoffensive." This is just a ploy to gain control over texts - any text - and alter what it says, in short, to control ideas and their free flow and criticism from the individual. Might as well remove all such references from Goethe, Schiller, Dante, Dickens, Wilde, Shakespeare....you get the idea.
Wycliffe, SIL, Frontiers: you're being stupid and offensive, both to the intelligence of the Muslim, to your own spiritual patrimony, and to the wider heritage of Western culture. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Quit parading this silliness.
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The petition at
http://www.change.org/petitions/lost-in-translation-keep-father-son-in-the-bible
alleges facts that don’t hold up, and is weak on scholarship. You need to look further.
http://www.kouya.net/?p=4534
Seems The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism is getting yet another rewrite…you got to give them credit, they are unrelenting.
Your “Extra-Temporal” is the Same as my “All-Time,” just not instantly graspable. Within the psyche, the Universal Mind Pervades… It creates the “sensing” of exteriorized personalities in the “energetically enhanced,” confusing them into believing they have met ET’s of illimitable types (Andromedans, et al). What they Are encountering is their own selves, colored as self-reflected, & not realizing. Here, we agree. … However, the Opposing Paradox also is Extant. … Next, my Direct Awareness of Universal Creation is something akin to Tesla & Walter Russell’s. Only those who have Achieved Cosmic Consciouisness can comprehend: none others. (Tesla at least once.) Also, I spontaneously Raised the Lyght of 100 Suns… It just Appeared. This Is the Basis of theologic Legend, which, unrealized, Traps the unknowing (mind). You cannot Force nor buy nor beg nor mimic this in any manner. … Any ‘unsureness’ you choose to perceive is intertranslational communication incompatability: what is as yet beyond the humanimal, neverthless is Awaiting each & All, whether sub- or human level. It is The Great Mystery. Enter the “rabbit hole,” & you will find me There (Nothing-All), no matter what Depth-Height you may penetrate. … I would say “look” at your previous statement, but it is self-delimiting, thus, I know must wait. (Don’t take any wooden nickels.) … Intelligence is Inherent in/as Creation – All -, not just intellect, the last Bastion of the closet-ridden reason. Ever see an animal caretaker? They seem just like them, at times: the animal is enclosed in a Container of Invisible limitation: 1 of 99. That 100th is All-the-Trick: “I love thee more than ninety-nine” – This is the Perfection (100%) required to cross-over the creational dual Barriers-Shields (EM). Re-read my comments; you’ll see the hinting: “life” is “as one dead,” which is the persistance of the slave-beast, humanimal. Now is the Moment to Leap. But, there is a place “prepared” for those who choose to wag their tails before their “loving Masters.” Mind is the enslaver, not “Them.”
Can you run that by me again (?)
Enki, was known as a serpent and his emblem was two entwined serpents, the symbol of his ‘cult center’ at Eridu. This information comes from the Sumerian Tablets as translated by Zecharia Sitchin, who was an ancient text thumper.
Now that the Muslim populace has been placated, Wycliffe bible translators need to re-write that Garden of Eden story so as not to confuse or offend the Ancient Text Thumpers.
I have just read now of a act of destruction by Islamic Quran thumpers destroying priceless and unreplacable tresures of the Maldives in the wake of the coup that remove the president of those islands. True face of the Abrahamist the story on the Arachology News Network dated February 12, 2012.
Kissassinger indeed Doc, well said.
As for politically correcting the bible for non-christians , the very idea is nonsensically stupid. And that is coming from an atheist. As you pointed out it is nothing more than yet another control mechanism over the masses. what a load of codswallop.
To hell with the God particle, we need to isolate the “stupidity” gene and get rid of that. How we ever made it out of the savannah I will never know.
That could actually be proof of a god.
It was a true miracle !
Sorry the book is “The Master Game”, I get a little carried away when I’m angry
I have that and others by Bouval and/or Graham;
have read it and most of the others.
Both authors are very good.
I overlook the ExtraTerrestrial crap and substitute
the other “ET,” ExtraTemporal.
Alan Butler is the only one so far that seriously,
albeit briefly, throws this into the mix at the end of his book,
“Who Made the Moon?”
Ha-ha. “That ET crap?” HAL, you use the alternate blackconceptualhole of ‘”Extra-Temporal,” & forget it. That’s your Boxed-belief system Right. Alan Butler & the meta-humans (time-selves), et al. Past-Present-Future are encapsulated within the “All Time” T-Field (Resonance “Particle” & it’s 2nd or “Ghosting” Resonance). A cancer-research biologist (19 yrs. at University of York, UK, well published), close friend, reported to me (yahoo chat, live event) entering the “all-time” state (lasted many hrs., never took a drug in their life other than prescrip.). Quite the event (We got on the phone). So shattering, their “rigid-academic” mindset landed them in an asylum for a 3-wk. stay & subsequent job-loss. … So, you might conceive of such “Extra-Temporal” ETs, but place a Universe full of Life into the (your) “crapper.” Tsk-tsk. … Here’s a true story: forum-fella, a commercial fisher off the Oregon coast, saw a USO close to their boat, with lights, which manuevered around them awhile, then disappeared. He was convinced it wasn’t of human origin (“extra,” he was saying). Later, he went apoplectic in denial of “reptilians” existing. I pointed out his obvious dichotomy of beliefs (do ets have to be humanoid?). As a friend, he stated he just “didn’t believe in them.” Hmm. You seem smarter than this. Perhaps you might study deeper, both physics & metaphysics, to get a better grasp of your own stated admonition: “Truth is Stranger than Fiction.” I assure you, “not (quite) human” is nearer the Truth. The Naga I met would “back me up” on this (1984 event, Colo. Rockies, near Pine, CO.).
Ancient civilizations FROM EARTH could very well have
terra-formed and colonized space,
BUT
they came from here originally.
I’m not ‘selling’ it, so you don’t have to buy it at all.
Not a problem with me.
This is only one major mystery that ‘will out.’
Soon…………………………..
Hey Smiley !
you ramble so intelligently.
It’s amazing, really, burying those
little tidbits you’re not quite sure of.
I’ve just finished Graham Hancock & Robert Bouval’ “The Master Race” and forgive me if this seems off topic with regard to Dr. Farrell’ post.
For me, the Bible is a crock, and also the “COVER UP” of the true story about who we are. Can I recommend that you read the book and also listen to Robert Bouval’ two interviews at Red Ice Radio, they are some of the most revealing words I’ve ever heard on the subject of all the three major religions.
Bouval tells it like it is, and makes “no bones” about the ludicrus stories these so called books tell.
In essence, religion is a personal choick, however are we to believe in a talking snake ? a boat full animals? and that we will all die in a hell of fire?
What a load of malarky, I miss the old guy, a Mr. Zecharia Sitchin
One may Choose to “Walk the Rosy Path.” However, if you stray to near the roses, you are sure to get Torn up by their Thorns of Truth. … Serpents Do Talk to the humAnimal (note username). You are In the Fires of “Hell” (Precipitation= Polarity) right “Now” (“9 Levels of Hell”), called ETERNITY, or Illusion (Maya). All Four Elements (Earth-Water~Air-Fire) Are Composed (“made from/by”) The Fifth Element, FYre. … You are “walking in Illusion,” and believing what you ‘see.” Knowledge is Both evolutionally “exterior” (concrete) & “interior” (gnosis): Blended, they Produce The Child: Direct Knowing (Prime Archetypal-Awareness). … Enjoy your “stroll” (& don’t believe everything you read or see: belief-systems are “BoXed).
Lemon do you know the website of Red Ice Radio and thanks for telling me about the book The Master Race
The west has been groveling before the Islamist for centuries as for Bible translation most of the Bible thumpers don’t know what they reading. Anyway the Old and New Testament has been tampered with since at lest the Council of Nicea. when certain gospels were left out and forged letters of the apostles put in. So what we read isn’t genuie article anyway.
Sad, but true my friend. Historical texts are re-written and new interpretations appear from time to time.
History is written by the victors and prior historical texts destroyed. Ancient text thumpers don’t know if what they are reading is true and that leaves us in a quandary. Whom and what do you believe? Humanity has been setup for a coming delusion on an awesome scale.
Nothing new under the sun is there?
Nothing new under the sun is there? Clay tablets from Sumer, Babylon and Assyria shows evidence of name’s being recut or erased. Not to worry though since we know the beginnings of the world’s history as the Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Egyptians and others knew it, or would have us believe it. So, let’s go dig up some more ancient texts. Then we will really ‘know the truth’ about what happened in the past.
Question, are Editors and Banksters related to one another? Just askin’……
Муссульманство это слегка модифицированное несторианство. Россия это поняла и 400лет с муссульманами проблем не было. Сейчас об этом забыли и проблемы появились. Прочитайте Л.Н.Гумилева. Господа, будте толерантнее!
I’am reminded of a classic Twighlight Zone episode: To Serve Man, where an alien book tanslation, purporting to serve mankind, takes on it’s real meaning at the end of the show:
to serve mankind on a dish.
It’s a cook book! – to serve(food) mankind,
not a bible! – to serve(help) mankind.
So, you’re saying that biblical texts should be translated “accurately”?
Food for thought.
Bread? Wine? Mana? Or Hawaiian Mana?
Anyhow Unitarians deny the trinity.
Beauty(or otherwise) is in the eye of the beholder.
Robert – You do Recognize Truth… for that weirdling Music from the Beyond episode described the Real Process. … All creation is (100%) Predatorial… why not “provide” a Recipe Book for the “culinary favorites” of thje “gods?” … On a further note, it’s a Two-Way flow: life eats from the Terrestrial Mother, and also from the Cosmic Father, Transduced as the Vitality (Prana/Energy) in the Air… (I have earlier indicated the Invisible Power & Principalities -the Presences- that are Hidden everywhAir. Life consumes the god’s essences in this manner, becoming, “as with life.”) In creation, everything consumes everything else… “The Serpent That Swallows It’s Own Tail” is… literal. … Those who Control Take the Lion’s Share: Sugar, salt, flesh of Heart, mixed with tincture of silver & gold.
Well aware of what your writings are saying.
I expected no less from your reply.
In fact, I was smiling when thinking of your response.
I remember that one!
Joseph. Please. Calm yourself. This is nothing new. The Bible has already been altered numerous times for reasons of political correctness or in furtherance of somebody or other’s political agenda. I agree that in this particular instance it is beyond stupid–I think the word is dhimmitude. The particular Muslims that these folks are seeking to placate are already pretty much offended that the Bible exists at all, in whatever rendition. As an aside, I for one am offended that the Bible makes no mention of God the Mother, but I’m dealing with it.
This is true, but try this common sense on a
fundamentalist ‘Christian.’
How many ways can this comments guard software refuse comments? There’s irony in bad auto editing, or perhaps refusal to see and read–by software in this case.
I’d like to publicly object to the removal of reincarnation from “christian” texts. Then there’s the whole Mary as Isis thing.
That link goes to a petition, not in the habit of signing petitions that don’t provide an example of whatever “abuse”. That kind of petition is an abuse itself.
Is there a point in ‘carrying’ the evil to this
“silliness” when its ultimate end must be
oblivion as unsustained and unsustainable
anyway?
A show of “Revelation,” an unveiling of an
insanity to the absolutely ludicrous in and to
the utter extreme?
For me these are personal questions now
touching the heart of anyone with the usual
senses and emotions and the ability to
perceive and be aware of themselves and
their surroundings.
And while we are at it (from 2008 though), the Catholic Church removes Yahweh from liturgies, songs, prayers, ceremonies etc:
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/yahweh_not_to_be_used_in_liturgy_songs_and_prayers_cardinal_arinze_says/