APOCALYPSE THEATER: EVANGELICALS AND WORLD WAR THREE
Well, just in case you haven't been following the apocalypse theater of your selected leaders, there's this little article that was brought to my attention by a Facebook friend, call her P.H.:
MILLIONS OF EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS WANT TO START WORLD WAR III ... TO SPEED UP THE SECOND COMING
Now, for those of you who've read Dr. Scott D. de Hart's and my Yahweh the Two-Faced God, this should sound familiar. There we explored the possibility that all prophecies are self-fulling in nature, or at least, can be engineered to be so. In that regard, we pointed out how the "theological system" of dispensationalists like Cyrus Scofield, Hal Lindsey and others, was a late doctrinal creation of the nineteenth century, with suspicious 'backing" from oil and banking men, and how it was suspiciously like the geopolitical theories of the nineteenth century British geopolitical theorist, Sir Halford Mackinder. It was a system of "prophetic interpretation," in other words, tailor-made for the long-term geopolitical agendas of the Anglo-American elite.
We also pointed out how this apocalypse-seeking "Christianity" had deeply penetrated the upper echelons of American politics. Well, in case you had any doubts, this little article spells it out:
"Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac:
“This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins”…
"There can be little doubt now that President Bush’s reason for launching the war in Iraq was, for him, fundamentally religious. He was driven by his belief that the attack on Saddam’s Iraq was the fulfilment of a Biblical prophesy in which he had been chosen to serve as the instrument of the Lord.
"And British Prime Minister Tony Blair long-time mentor, advisor and confidante said:
“'Tony’s Christian faith is part of him, down to his cotton socks. He believed strongly at the time, that intervention in Kosovo, Sierra Leone – Iraq too – was all part of the Christian battle; good should triumph over evil, making lives better.'
"Mr Burton, who was often described as Mr Blair’s mentor, says that his religion gave him a 'total belief in what’s right and what’s wrong', leading him to see the so-called War on Terror as 'a moral cause'…
"Anti-war campaigners criticised remarks Mr Blair made in 2006, suggesting that the decision to go to war in Iraq would ultimately be judged by God.
"Bill Moyers reports that the organization Christians United for Israel - led by highly-influential Pastor John C. Hagee - is a universal call to all Christians to help factions in Israel fund the Jewish settlements, throw out all the Palestinians and lobby for a pre-emptive invasion of Iran. All to bring Russia into a war against us causing World War III followed by Armageddon, the Second Coming and The Rapture. See this and this."
We could add to the list that the article gives of other influential politicians buying into this biblical barbeque nonsense in the name of their "God of Love" - former National Security Advisor General Brent Scowcroft and former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger also bought into it, and even Ronald Reagan himself was bamboozled by these baptistic snake-oil salesmen into accepting their genocidal dispensationalism.
Do my words seem harsh? They're not half as harsh as this silly doctrine - which remember, as we pointed out in Yahweh the Two-Faced God, isn't even part of the historical deposit of the Christian faith at all - for this doctrine and its murderous followers have precisely genocide in their hearts. It's time for the rest of us to call a spade a spade and genocidal agendas genocidal agendas. After all, they have clearly stated what they teach, and what they believe, and what they want to have happen... and there is no other word for it than genocide.
So the next time a political candidate stands up and proudly proclaims their "faith in Jesus," better ask him or her if that Jesus is the Rapturing Nineteenth century Jesus of Hal Lindsey, Cyrus Scofield, James Haggee and all the rest of these unctuous "born-again bible-believing" nutters. Make no mistake, these people are sick, twisted, and in the name of their book-god, their hearts are full of murder, and they, just as surely as their opposite numbers in the two other Yahwisms, are leading the world to ruin. These are stupid vainglorious people, so convinced that their interpretation of a two-thousand year old book is the word of God, that they are willing to allow the bombs to fly and the radioactive fallout to enshroud the earth and to kill billions of people, just to prove their book-god, and their own silly interpretations of it, correct.
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One flickering bright spot among fellow evangelicals is that I see more of a growing interest from them than among Quakers or Mennonites in the topic of Christian pacifism.
http://www.amazon.com/Christian-Pacifism-Fruit-Narrow-ebook/dp/B005RIKH62/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1332910329&sr=1-1
hear ye hear ye
that war is comeing, and is beggining
the proding under way, the war of 5’6 pirate’s.
forget iran
“The denunciation of injustice implies the rejection of the use of Christianity to legitimize the established order.”
― Gustavo Gutiérrez, A Theology of Liberation: History, Politics, and Salvation
I have been reading Caesar’s Messiah, I am not done with it. It’s a difficult read, keeping all of the interlinar narratives together. I have always thought that if a belief or religion cannot stand up under investigation and questioning, you really don’t have anything anyway. So, Paul, go ahead and read it and then check Atwill’s primary source, Wars of the Jews by Flavius Josephus, which has been used for Biblical study for hundreds of years.
Actually, I have felt much better by stepping out of the box. I feel much lighter and more free getting rid of the curse of my participation in a play that requires that my head be chopped off because I’m a Christian. As Chris Hedges says, Fundamental Christianity is a theology of despair and death.
Now, I’m beginning to understand, through Joseph’s and Scott de Hart’s work, the much larger and much more ancient hands at work in human history and what Joseph calls the “medium.” I don’t know where this is all leading, but it feels right and my mind is free.
Dr. Farrell has expressed the need of a new apologetic for Christianity. Perhaps this new apologetic is already with us in the work of Rene Girard (who I have referred to previously).
I came across this excellent post on his work, warts and all:
http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2007/04/rene-girard-for-holy-week
I have just begun reading and assimilating his work, so I’m not sure how much is wheat and how much is chaff, but there is definitely much food for thought.
Ya know kids as for the “second coming”? I believe it is called the baptism of the Holy Spirit!
To me it is like why wait? Find a church where you can sense the presence of God “close your eyes” and repent until you receive the Holy Spirit! . Just don’t quit because you don’t get it the first time you ask be persistant keep at it until you finally receive him! Then try fasting and praying the Lords prayer from Jesus for about say 2 weeks. Just to see what if anything happens?
I could tell you more but why should I ruin your surprise or your own personal journey?
The only apocalypse I see is people leaving the church because they don’t need it the socialization anymore . And they realize they can get their own personal word or revelation directly from God all by themselves. Every time they fast and pray!
No longer will churches be able to tax for your money or tell you what to do and or how to live. Cuz the spirit will guide you and keep you out of trouble! And the apocolypse will be in the church of today just like the synagogue of old, dis-banding and falling apart due to lack of brainwashed members with the mark of the beast or bible in their “hand ” 66 books and trying to get its information into their “heads” of their members.
No chip necessary the mark is already common place and why Jesus didn’t like the Rabbi’s scribes and pharasee’s. Of his day they didn’t disappear they just transformed into most denominational churches of our day in time.Cuz there is money involved and false promises, false salvation, rituals and social practices.
You might as well call it the bible lawyer convention wanting to bring on an apocalypse! I call them the bible educated blind or stupid!
With not one who is even filled with the Holy Spirit or can prove it! They make their own rules on what parts of this book they want to follow! But they still can’t live by it I know this and Jesus as well knows this!
Sorry folks but the pope or president or religious elite or words from a book is or are not my God!
Reason is Linear, Angular, or Head thought, & represents only HALF of the Duality/Polarity InterActioning: Mind is Dual and Includes NonLinear, Circular Intution, or Body thought. … Reason (+/-, mascuLine, 1) LEADS As A Particle/Projectile, Which (Witch) is GUIDED By Intuition (-/+, femiNine, 3), the WaveField/Tube. … Don’t “understand” the Nature of Chaos, Destruction, War/Death? Go must have Stop; Harvesting must have ReTilling (of the Field); Created must have Destroyed (Creator/ess-Preserver-Destroyer). … What is so HILARIOUS is The EL-ement-All Forces Have Ordered the Ascendancy of “Reason” for “‘A Season,” to Balance the Intuition Sensing… AND the Ch-Ill-dren Do Not Even Grasp That They Are Being mindlessly Directed by their MASTERS (Guardians-Guards-Gardeners). … Use your mind “As Ordered”… TRUTH (sans the flashing neon li(e)ghts) will Remain Hidden from the UnKNowing. CreationAll LAW Process Is IntentFully IMPERSONAL… learning “IT” makes It PERSONAL. Obviously, the Few. The PROGRAMMING of The Humanimal Is Done In the Embryonic Stage (google this) No Escape for the Fenced Herds of Guided/Led Humanimals (the SEMI-Conscious). InBred PreDisposition & Prejudice operate as Inertial Force, making the Programmng “self-Maintaining” (Mountain). … Man(un)kind will Not Escape the EL’s (Spirits). Jesu mythos… “Black Sananda & Co.” Drives the “mind” of the Herds. … Still Obfuscated? It’s Harvest/Tilling “Time.” The Myopic-minded (concentrated focus) can Only see the “shots” directly before them, aspects of cumulational “past times.” Love & War, Two Faces of ImBalance (life).
Hey SS…………
Are you trying to illustrate the ‘creationist’
idea that Darwin evolution, given enough time and
random mutation, a monkey could [accidently]
type out the dictionary by hitting keys [at random]?
Just kidding……… 😉
I can’t even spell right in one sentence !
There is a difference between faith and blind faith. Blind faith is guided by man, true faith is guided by the Holy Spirit. Follow man and you will surely fall. Sad to say that we “Christians” are among the most easy misguided of them all as we want so much to have faith in someone, something, anything, but it is so easily given to the wrong people, the wrong institutions. Jesus Christ was anti establishment, quickly directing his judgement toward “religion”. Just because something is labeled as “Christian” does not mean that has the quality of the true Christ, in too many cases it has the polar opposite in terms of quality and truth.
My personal experience is that if there is a money trail to be followed, you need to be very wary of following the one(s) benefiting from the money trail. We are at a point in time where there are no good politicians as they are forced to sell their souls to achieve success. Don’t look at the label they use, their slick ads, and don’t believe their professionally written speeches. It truly is a matrix in which we live and our only real hope is to wake up and smell reality, which has been hidden from us since well before our individual dates of birth. There are many good people who have followed very evil men, believing the lies that the evil men so easily spew forth. The ultimate warning being to follow no man and yes, question authority, question it long and hard.
Love the Lord with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself. Value life not death. Value truth not corruption. Value eternal worth, not wealth. If you can find a politician or so called religious leader who stands for these core values, I would be shocked beyond belief.
Dr. Ron Paul comes to mind quite easily.
It boggles the mind that any serous person could swallow such a far-fetched idea. It is certainly a sign of the times. It’s thinking which, going back to the Enlightenment, first tried to reduce the Gospels to a mythology. The next step is then is to give it the “Dan Brown” treatment–and since most people are very ill informed when it comes to history, especially religious history, they’ll swallow just about anything–the more sensational the better–it feeds the need for novelty while meeting a subversive agenda.
The fact is, the Gospels are the antithesis of myth–as Rene Girard has so eloquently demonstrated in the Scapegoat and other works The purpose of the Gospel is antithetical to the agenda of any secular power as even the most cursory reading would make apparent.
Coincidentally, I had just reached page 760 of Jonathan Littell’s book “The Kindly Ones” when I came across a post floating on the net about a Rollercoaster Type Euthanasia machine.
Heavens to Betsy! One would think that kind of thinking ended with WWII and National Socialism but obviously not. (one of the comments below this article in the readers posts suggested, the inventor of such a diabolical device be the first one to try it out to see if it works?)
In this Lintell book I think their is a quote from Goebels that goes something like this: “It’s not important what people believe in but that people BELIEVE!”
I guess this is fitting reference on the topic of the Apocalypse Theater or the End of History.
I imagine to the believer anything is better than the fully human realization of the consequences of NIHILISM! ( Even if the REFERENT has nothing to do with anything?)
While I have never experienced this kind of Christianity, I have witnessed the seeds, it has always troubled me. I cannot fathom it, and I cannot understand it.
As a Christian this makes me feel sick, alone and very very angry. This is not Christ, it can never be Christ; it is the antithesis of Christ.
All I can think of is an image of Christ raging with righteous anger at the temple in Jerusalem, turning the tables over and challenging the banksters and temple vipers head on.
Who are these demons that speak to God as though He needed their advice? Who are these mongrel dogs that believe they can manipulate God to move at their calling?
Who will turn the tables over? Who will look the vipers in the eye and say ‘be gone with you who know not God’?
“……….it is the antithesis of Christ.”
“I cannot fathom it, and I cannot understand it.”
Can anyone rationally…?
Even those following some kind of nonsense
reasoning do NOT !?!
War for peace (?)
Take the abortion ‘issue.’
Kill to stop killing (?)
There IS no way to make sense out of it
for those who reason and THINK for themselves.
Red Ice just had a great interview with the author of “Caesar’s Messiah,” a book which details the author’s investigation into the creation of the Christ myth and the Christian religion as we know it by the Roman Flavian (sp?) dynasty.
It was well worth a listen, and the author was quite persuasive. It’s all a pagan Roman con game, and the rest of us have to pay the price for their craziness.
It’s a badly designed myth, born of comedic spoof of a fake religious prophecy designed around a dynastic family’s arrogance, based on fake stories of dead aliens. No Sci-fi screenwriter could show his face after writing something so bad.
Truth is indeed stranger than fiction.
JON,
I checked that book “Caesar’s Messiah” out one day recently from the library (were you the one that referred it here?) and sat down to first scan it before diving in.
Something held me back? I knew it was the type of book where one should check the many sources to see if the author is accurate. Too much time involved and I don’t know this author from a hole in the wall? (now Farrell’s mention of that author questioning the Greek Identities of all these people who were immigranting to Rome in Babylon’s Bankers is a different story? It is more easier to accept or a simpler but meaningful general concept.)
I remember some of the bull shit citations I never even read but copied at the end of my college papers to make it look like I did some real work.(rush jobs) Author’s pull stunts like that too! Anyway who has the time to check references? It’s easy to get away with if one doesn’t have too many enemies?)
There are so many profitable scams and bull shit stories out there about this Christian Authenticity – topic that one must be very critical when examining the mountains of paper. ( I passed on reading the book. My intuition says, ‘Something Fishy” about it? I don’t know? I been known to be completely WRONG at times, HA, HA!)
So I refrained from studying the book. (anyway, I am an off and on again pragmatist for if believing in a loving Jesus even if it’s a “People’s Opiate” results in one leading a very good decent life or in healing or a sound turnaround then I am for the person beliefs as such. Look at the good results in some of these 12th step programs? But don’t look too closely, wink???
(I will refrain from my usually ridicule! But, If the Fundimentalists are trying to Lay something on me I don’t feel is quite right then I’ll let them have it with my sardonic, acidic wit for after all they asked for it and I can dish it out just like them.(I guess that makes me like them in a way?)
I would make a good waitress but the food I would SERVICE probably is very bitter-tasting leaving out much that would be desired! I don’t fiddle-faddle with PROGNOSIS for one can find themselves in even deeper do-do if they do?
Speaking of Grapevine-Gossip,
by the way has anyone here been following the FEUD between MAKOW and RENSE? It’s getting very nasty. I like all the dirt and mud slinging for they reveal the UNDERBELLY that I might miss about each them. Also along with the condemnations on both sides someone jumped in with their two cents on ICKE which I found thoughtful!
I know the whole above affair usually ends up very destructive but sometimes that’s the only way to get a real critical view for in the alternate and conspiracy movement their is too much ass-kissing among the guilty parties.
I am guessing it’s coming down to the end of the spoils being shared what with the economy being what it is. Sales volume must be (could be?) down?
I wonder if both of them have both of them heard of the words ORIGINAL and INNOVATION?
It boggles the mind that any serous person could swallow such a far-fetched idea. It is certainly a sign of the times. It’s thinking which, going back to the Enlightenment, first tried to reduce the Gospels to a mythology. The next step is then is to give it the “Dan Brown” treatment–and since most people are very ill informed when it comes to history, especially religious history, they’ll swallow just about anything–the more sensational the better–it feeds the need for novelty while meeting a subversive agenda.
The fact is, the Gospels are the antithesis of myth–as Rene Girard has so eloquently demonstrated in the Scapegoat and other works The purpose of the Gospels is antithetical to the agenda of any secular power as even the most cursory reading would make apparent. Again, such works–most of the modernist ‘alternative’ fabrications of Jesus as a matter of fact, are not new ideas, but have been around since the Enlightenment.
Well they seem on target riots in Afghanistan. grave desacation in Bengasi, war drums beating for a war with Iran I go beyond genecide to biocide of every living thing living on this planet as a offering to their of sacred murder.
Personally, I do not believe that any leader of a powerful country in the last 50 years actually believes in Christianity.
They just use it to manipulate mass opinion and justify national agendas.
that is just an opinion.
I don’t think that you are being a harsh at all Dr Farrell, if anything I think that you are being very diplomatic. These Ranting Religious Reprobates, these Pontificating Posteriors, these Sanctimonious Sphincters make me sick. They cloak in the name of Religion and Patriotism what truly lies close to their black hearts, pure bloody murder. Bravo for calling it.
The question is that are they trying to justify their actions to us or to themselves?
What brought home the fact that the Pre-Trib-Rapture believers were in fact blood thirsty war mongers was the reaction to the calls for war, on the part of Santorum, by the largely evangical audience in South Carolina a few weeks ago. These people went into frenzy when ever the idea that we needed to expand current wars or start new wars was proposed. The Prince of Peace weeps
Yes I remember that rommanel…it was truly sick, but let’s remember, there are equally sick people in Judaism and Islam. It’s the whole apocalyptic meme of Yahwism itself that people should bear in mind.
Really dumb, huh ?
And they’ve been at it for awhile now.
But not all for the same reason.
Bush et al ‘worship’ Lucifer and think his rebellion was / is on target.
He is the Light Bearer, after all !
Talk about being led by the nose !!!
What a stink…………….
Really dumb, huh ?
And they’ve been at it for awhile now.
But not all for the same reason.
Bush et al ‘worship’ Lucifer and think his rebellion was / is on target.
He is the Light Bearer, after all !
Talk about being led by the nose !!!
What a stink…………….
Good blog; simple, common-sense perception. What you are “missing” is your own insightful awareness of grid-patterns (Net FrameWorks)… whereIn InvoLution Precedes EvoLution, and “free will” (ahem!) is “carefully guided/led,” to the detriment of the semi-conscious. “InVisible Cause Precedes Visible Effect.” (As Above, So Below; As WithIn, So WithOut.)
“Eugene [Seraphim Rose] identified the worldly idealism of the modern age whether it comes from ‘Christians’, occultists, Communists, or secularists as a form of the ancient heresy of chiliasm. Apart from its theological definition as a specific Christian heresy–the belief that Christ is soon to come to earth and reign right here with his saints for a thousand years before the end of the world–chiliasm can refer more generally to any secular belief in a future age of perfect peace and heavenly blessedness on Earth. Along with nihilism, (of which it is only the brighter side) , chiliasm is the key to understanding the spirit of the age., for it is the hub around which many disparate elements will unite.”
–Hieromonk Damascene, Father Seraphim Rose, His Life and Works, p 242
Amen to that, though I personally have found much of Serpahim Rose’s “analysis” lacking.
Dr. Farrell,
Well said Sir.
Dr Farrell,
Am I allowed to swear on this forum?? lol..
To be honest, that is all I want to do when I read articles like this..
These people need to be sorted out!!
I try to keep the dialogue here civil, though, when need be, passionate.