NEW STUDY: Bt TOXIN KILLS HUMAN CELLS

If you've been following the story of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) and genetically modified crops, or the ongoing saga of Monsanto Corporation's attempt to introduce its products, there's a new study out that may interest you:

Bt Toxin Kills Human Kidney Cells

"A new study shows that low doses of Bt biopesticide CryA1b as well as the glyphosate herbicide, Roundup, kill human kidney cells. The Bt biopesticide conferring insect resistance and the glyphosate tolerance trait tied to the use of glyphosate herbicides account for almost all the GM crops grown worldwide. Bt crops already constitute 39 % of globally cultivated genetically modified (GM) crops, yet this is the first study that provides evidence on the toxicity of Bt protein in human cells.

"This work comes at a time when the French environment and agricultural ministers are seeking an EU-wide ban of Monsanto’s MON810 Bt corn variety that is already outlawed in Hungary, Austria, Germany, Greece, and Luxembourg. The EU commission approved this crop in 2009, concluding that it “is as safe as its conventional counterpart with respect to potential effects on human and animal health”. In response to their publication the research team raised questions about the safety assessment procedure stating that their findings were a “surprising outcome and this risk was somehow overlooked” in past assessments of such crops. [1]."

What strikes me here is not so much the confirmation of what has long been suspected - namely, that these products are indeed harmful to humans - but rather, the political aspect of the story. It seems that the governments of France, Germany, Hungary, Greece, and Luxembourg are already banning GMOs with the Bt toxin - read Monsanto'Roundup - and thus, have a modicum of concern for the public good of their people, while at the EU level itself, the corporate cronyism is evident.

More importantly, however, the fact remains that in the USA, the agribusiness giants have been successful in running roughshod not only over farmer who reject their crops, but have been in a revolving door relationships with the FDA and the US Department of Agriculture, with neither the government nor the corporations showing the slightest concern for the public good as they continue to poison people with their "products." The system, in short, as everyone here knows, is corrupt, and no longer has any concern for the people. We live in a corrupt oligarchy, a banana republic, government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations.

See you on the flip side.

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

58 Comments

  1. Jedi on March 28, 2012 at 4:46 am

    SSNaga, you have some good thoughts there….although your arogance is what is holding you back.

    The Hue man, is a light being…..from dust this form comes and to dust it will return on this great big ball of shit…..ever study hieroglyphs?

    Harvest the wheat and burn the weeds….and dont you…step on my blue suede shoes.



    • SSNaga on March 28, 2012 at 5:09 am

      Lad… er, “djedi”…what you perceive as “arrogance” is An Ill-us-ion in your Mirror. I have None: How can The Center (CORE) Disdain A Part & Honor Another? It KNOWS It Is ONEness. … As for “ReTurn To Dust/Nothingness”…give it ‘time,’ you’ll “get It.” It Both “AnnihiLates” & “ImMoretaLizes.” The Dust Is The Nothing-All~ALL-NOTHING. Remember! – The EvolutionAll Impulse(s) Comes From Above, But Appear From Below.



      • Jedi on March 28, 2012 at 5:35 am

        I am a pillar of salt, it does have some great conducting abilities….I got it a long time ago, it is the materialists self hating choosers that we share this consciousness with that I ….well it is an animal farm here on the planet …seems pretty real though.

        You like decoding the Kings English ALPHA Bet….helps to have some ancient dictionaries handy too.



        • SSNaga on March 28, 2012 at 7:10 am

          “Artemis… IsIs That YOU? How Sharp Your Arrow, How Perfect Your AIM.” … Annihilation or Immortalization-Potential Before Infinity. … What is the Ratio Between the Issue (spermatozoa) & The Egg Penetralia? … It IsIs All “The More.” There Are Three (Trinity) DoOoRS. The Pillar Is The Trinity (Impetus-Entropy). Forget Not The +One: PEARL. Not so “easy.” The Path IsIs Forged. The Brilliance Barrier (E-M) Seperates The Pillar From The (3rd) Sphere. “Stay Out.” IT Knows IT’S’ELF. … EXperienT-I-All. … Climb The MOUNTAIN – Now LEAP. (Observe the Sistine ChapEL Painting, “Creation of Adam.” Note The Gap Between Them. Now “See” Adam Denouing his Journey… The TranscEnding of Alpha – OM-EGGA.)



          • Jedi on March 28, 2012 at 7:30 am

            In simpler terms riddler….

            we all pass through the EYE of the needle in that haystack the the house of YW to get into heaven.
            That is one meaning of the trinity….might seem a bit looney, the day the earth stood still….it is all in the book of holes.
            The girls spin there webs, toast in a champagne cup to the serpants material offerings while the boys keep on ringing there empty cracked bells of liberty that dont ring true.

            Have a listen to Merles Mama tried, then Elvis’s caught in a raptor…I mean trap…for some laughs and giggles….Sony put out a newer Edition of the King with special lighting effects.

            We cant go on together…..



          • Jedi on March 28, 2012 at 7:34 am

            Artemis… IsIs That YOU? How Sharp Your Arrow, How Perfect Your AIM.” … Annihilation or Immortalization-Potential Before Infinity.

            lol….Cupid pull back your bow…and let your arrow go, straight to my lovers heart from me..ee ee.

            One look into her eyes, and she will turn you into stone…a stone mason that is….Ishtar the whore of babylon was pretty good in the haystack, although the price to pay was a bit sheep.



  2. James on March 25, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Really another attack on Joe farmer! Really who wants to be one? What they want or been pushing for is all corporate farms. You want starvation in the land of plenty? Let them corporate farms take hold! They will push us back into the dark ages and population control will no longer be a problem. Because we will have forgotten how to grow or farm anything! Who needs farming when you can just drink your polluted water and eat your “Soilent Green” and stay high all the time!



  3. Lee on March 24, 2012 at 4:42 am

    Joseph, what did you think of that one star rating on amazon co uk for your new book by the ufo expert, G. S. Steckling , i believe.



    • SSNaga on March 24, 2012 at 5:47 am

      He’s out of his league & has No business interpolating ufos usos or any other uos. Taffy interpretations. 1 star likely was for making it to print. Talk about a fella out-of-Touch.



  4. Mr. DoItRight on March 23, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Dingbat, when you make your videoblogs, don’t smoke the place up like a 14 yo with your first pack of cancer sticks. It looks like shit and makes it appear as if your trailer is on fire.

    Seriously.



    • Joseph P. Farrell on March 24, 2012 at 7:29 am

      I will continue to do as I please.



      • legioXIV on March 24, 2012 at 4:03 pm

        Good for you Doc.



      • legioXIV on March 24, 2012 at 4:04 pm

        Besides I have a theory as to who this mysterious ‘dingbat’ is.



      • legioXIV on March 24, 2012 at 4:29 pm

        Oh and by the way Dr Farrell, regarding the DARPA videos, brilliant. I like the format and I think that it is a very good idea to mix it up with a few in this format. Thanks Doc.



        • Robert Barricklow on March 25, 2012 at 9:30 am

          I’am im agreement with legoiXIV.
          Well said.



          • Robert Barricklow on March 25, 2012 at 9:32 am

            My typing BAD
            legioXIV



    • Mary linderman on March 24, 2012 at 8:05 am

      The nerve. Telling a man what to do in his own home. The nerve of some people.



    • paul degagne on March 24, 2012 at 9:35 am

      I said I was going to be quiet around here but I cant resist temptation? ( I do have that streak in me what with how we are always finding out how pleasant things are.

      Got to have some harmless fun to let the pressure out?

      Am I right — DOLTright?

      Oh boy —another dingbat reference?

      I smoked like a haystack for 42 years but finally quit. You should have seen the strange color of my curtains back then.

      I continued for so long because I didn’t want to be perfect. Hey — a perfect fellow as my self ( I give you credit Farrell your trying and it shows ) has to be careful and hide the fact because -you know – people get jealous. So I faked being a smoker for 42 years!

      Now I am ready for Cannonization but they just throw bones at me, ha, ha! But your lucky Joe — they’re trying to CROWN YOU!

      Nobody has a sense of humor anymore!

      So DOLTHEAD,

      Please excuse me, I meant to say your Internet nick-name instead of your proper name. I got mixed up? DOLTRIGHT. I apologize for that! (by the way are you related to DUDDLY-DO-RIGHT?)

      You would be more than welcomed in my house. Being a I assume one of those non-holly-roller nonsmokers.

      You welcome to visit anytime!

      In fact my pet Dragon that NAGA gave me LOVES non-smokers! (he’s a health food nut. I am trying to make him a VEGGIE but he wont stand for it. Still loves to eat sickening meat!) I forgot to feed him his weeky rations and he a little a grumpy. I have a hunch he would LOVE YOU?

      Come on over — I’ll show you some of my ‘ superman comic books.” ( no — I am only kidding but I do wish I kept them for their worth a fortune today!)

      I do appreciate your sense of humor.

      I am trying to learn from People like You. So Farrell lives in a SIC “TRAILER.” (A little old but still effective— keep on driving to the right and in those circles you just may find yourself? But don’t BLAME ME FOR THE ADVICE. YOU ASKED FOR IT! WE BIGMOUTHS ARE ALL ALIKE!)

      I am not a born-again. I am just a HOOT passed his prime.

      but I know success when I see it.

      Look at Jesus,

      He was born in a barn and look how far he got?

      Maybe if Farrell tries a little harder his fan-club might help him get to where Jesus got!

      Lets hope not for sometimes I get a little jealous too!

      Have a nice day and please don’t get near those trailor-parks!



      • legioXIV on March 24, 2012 at 6:34 pm

        Nice call Paul, it is obvious that he is a right DOLT.



      • SSNaga on March 24, 2012 at 9:20 pm

        Speaking of ‘breaking silence,’ I hope you’ve read Ingo Swann’s “Penetration.” (Its available free online via torrent.) The “Father” of RV, he reported water as ice deposits on the Moons Poles 12 yrs. before “nasa” acknowledged it. Good read, but not the the staid mind. He used a “Real Whistle.”



    • Vinnie on March 24, 2012 at 12:19 pm

      So, which federal agency did you say you worked for?



      • legioXIV on March 25, 2012 at 3:11 pm

        The Federal Bureau of Idiocy?
        The Central Idiocy Agency?
        The National Stupidity Agency?
        The Office of Naval Idiocy?
        Take your pick.



  5. MattB on March 23, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    New Virus may be linked to Monsanto and GM food:

    http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2011/02/20/roundup-new-pathogen/



  6. Dashiell Cabasa on March 23, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    yep, i-cor-by-cor for-cor



  7. Robert Barricklow on March 23, 2012 at 1:14 pm


  8. Robert Barricklow on March 23, 2012 at 11:07 am

    An article by Gucclardi, NaturalSociety, entitled, “Monsanto ‘Biotechnology Book for Kids’ Caught Brainwashing Children”.
    http://naturalsociety.com/monsanto-biotechnology-book-for-kids-caught-brainwashing-children/



  9. marcos anthony toledo on March 23, 2012 at 9:55 am

    Tell me the difference between gangsters of organized crime and corporations officials none both use bribery and threats to get their way. Neither give a damn what their products do to their costumers. Only difference is that corporations can use the law and governments as their muscle semi openly to enforce their wills and can make alliances more out in the open or keep them secret if that they what too.



    • Robert Barricklow on March 23, 2012 at 10:45 am

      The corporation is now the new super-citizen. The reality is that the modern states are shaped by the influence of their most empowered citizens. The super-citizen has co-opted the power of the state. Ironically, the multi-national corporations have been able to gain unprecedented power, relative to the states that once gave them life.



  10. HAL838 on March 23, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Can you put together these letters to form words ?
    i-n-s-a-n-e
    d-e-l-i-b-e-r-a-t-e
    g-e-n-o-c-i-d-e



    • Robert Barricklow on March 23, 2012 at 10:36 am

      Just now in the middle of an article, “Slipping Through The Net /Cambodia’s border war against derug-resistant malaria by Matthew Power. Although informative and well written & researched, we come the the ‘perspective frame’ from which the telling speaks. In fact they quote the New York Times(Her Majesty’s Rag)-fighting malariahas become, “a hip way to show you care. The jist of the article is that this MUST be contained or it wiil spread to Africa/India and the globe. Countless lives are at stake & only “The Super-Rich Heroes, The Gates can save mankind with mosquito nets & a hail-mary dr’s roll of the research dice. Of course, DDT will wack it in a Magician’s “Abracadabra” Presto!
      So cross your fingers, but don’t YOU DARE cross or breach the subject of DDT as a possible way of buying & killing the time needed to effect a long term solution. Because when the gap has been breached(too damn soon), the genie/mosquito is out of the bottle/net.

      Thus, ironically & literally, the ‘NET’ result is
      d-e-l-i-b-e-r-a-t-e g-e-n-o-c-i-d-e.



    • Robert Barricklow on March 23, 2012 at 10:37 am

      Just now in the middle of an article, “Slipping Through The Net /Cambodia’s border war against derug-resistant malaria by Matthew Power. Although informative and well written & researched, we come to the ‘perspective frame’ from which the telling speaks. In fact they quote the New York Times(Her Majesty’s Rag)-fighting malariahas become, “a hip way to show you care. The jist of the article is that this MUST be contained or it wiil spread to Africa/India and the globe. Countless lives are at stake & only “The Super-Rich Heroes, The Gates can save mankind with mosquito nets & a hail-mary dr’s roll of the research dice. Of course, DDT will wack it in a Magician’s “Abracadabra” Presto!
      So cross your fingers, but don’t YOU DARE cross or breach the subject of DDT as a possible way of buying & killing the time needed to effect a long term solution. Because when the gap has been breached(too damn soon), the genie/mosquito is out of the bottle/net.

      Thus, ironically & literally, the ‘NET’ result is
      d-e-l-i-b-e-r-a-t-e g-e-n-o-c-i-d-e.



    • SSNaga on March 24, 2012 at 3:27 am

      AI – yes, it spells “happy little people.” … Funny, poison crops for the stock… You All don’t see, crops (herdhumans, planet) can be lost, but the specie returns thru the Action-ReAction Door (Vesica Pisces), Cleaned, new & improved (with developed tolerance). The Planet, nor its races, are not “Their home,” so its just something to despoil & spoil. Sort of like a warzone (Conflict). … “Your” laws are physical corruptions because YOU Let this Occur – There Actually IsIs An “Indra’s Net.” Now, a few less-dumb manimals stir & say, “this grass tastes funny.” $ & Carry, children. Who Let the Enemy in? You are Betrayed. … Ok, time to play “materialist pseudo-intellectuals.” (look it up). Theres a “hidden reference” that’s gone viral; it’s called “the zombies.” Yup, even AI zombies. ‘Tis ok, it’ll make more sense – when ‘jesu’ Comes Marching Home (Hurrah!). HaHa.



      • HAL838 on March 24, 2012 at 7:27 am

        SSNaga
        Your post puts Steven King’s extremely dark imagination to shame.
        And Robert is not far behind.

        No wonder “horror” has replaced good old fashioned SciFi !
        I can think of better outcomes (without Alien Monsters!)
        even while I tread a planet on life-support.



        • SSNaga on March 24, 2012 at 8:17 am

          AI – There Are TWO lights in The UnFoldment of Soul-SPIRIT – First is the Planting of The Seed In the Soil (Soul), the L-“i”-e-ght (3-D, Black/Dark) of Ill-u-Scions… Then The L-Y-ght of The REAL as the Soul Sprouts Up Out Of the Dark Into 4-D & Cusp 5-D (Carries The Escape Potential From The Whirling Wheel of Eternity). … The Soul~Spirit, The Cycle of LIEght/LYght (.5/.5). … The Ape-Scion MUST Be Thrust (ImPulse) Foreward… or it Will Not Rise. I Have Raised The Inner-Sun… Who Else May Urge one to their END? TRANS-MUTE – TRANS-FORM – TRANSC-END. What is “Conspiracy?” SomeThing Hidden. Remember, the animal just wants ‘peace’ In A 100% Predatorial Creation (YouNiverse)… Who & Where Are The Predators? 3-D is “Land” – 4-D is the “Waters.” Indra’s NET Is As “real” As the “Maat-erial.” What Does “the Mother” Do? Issues For Things/Entities. Matter is BLINDNESS. “They” Want you (Their Stockanimals) Blind. Stop being blindly Prosaic… is the Message – the Horror is the Little Blind self.



          • HAL838 on March 24, 2012 at 6:25 pm

            A wasted mind is a terrible thing.



          • SSNaga on March 24, 2012 at 7:50 pm

            I would suggest looking in the Mirror on that issue. Note the obvious delimitation & distaste for anything outside the Assembled BoX. Hurts, don’t it..? Thats the waste…of lifeforce. (o)



          • HAL838 on March 27, 2012 at 5:49 am

            “……….outside the Assembled BoX.” ?
            What BoX?
            I don’t see a BoX.

            Please note that it is possible and sometimes probable,
            for a minority of one to be right and correct within or
            without the “BoX.”

            Time does tell all, no matter how fast or how slow
            the illusion.



        • paul degagne on March 26, 2012 at 5:37 am

          Ah, Lovely Hal,

          Give them credit for having morbid and sometimes fascinating imaginations.

          After all – their men- UGH, ha,ha!

          Maybe NAGA may just end up wise when his hair turns pure white. (that is if he makes it that long what with the Anthro stuff he’s preaching turns out to be the future? What if he’s right?)

          That’s if he and people like him don’t first go INSANE!

          That is if they are not OFF IN THE FIRST PLACE.

          Like me —- It helps!

          I learned a few things reading about Greek Tragedy.

          Those bunch of Crazy-Greeks sic – Invented or discovered HUMOUR ( or so I am told by men in white-stuffed-starched/bleached white shirts but that was a while back. Today they wear real cool GAP clothes and look human just like you and me, ha, ha?

          (Lets hope its not a humorous toom-er in NAGA’s brains! ha, ha!)



          • SSNaga on March 26, 2012 at 6:09 am

            YIN-YANG – See them Two Little Dots In The Symbol? They Are lights. Two Kinds, (fem/masc, black/white). The Little Dot In the Big Black (Fem.) Field Is Birthing Of Entity – the Other Dot in the White Field gives “issue” of THINGS. … Surprise: The Y-Y Symbol Describes The 3-Phase TORUS… Oh, Amazing Anci/yents! … Ignorant mon-keys… Cattle to the Savvy Elite Awareness. Yes, Virginia, All Living things/entities Have An Electro (lifeforce) Field! SHOCK! … Guess someone is Due For An UPGRADE.



          • paul degagne on March 26, 2012 at 6:44 am

            NAGA —

            How are you this fine spring day?

            Those “two little dots’ as you put it —- is a very good expression.

            What you wrote in this post is interesting for it shows some kind of advanced leaning but, but I still suspect you may not know a single thing about it! ( it’s funny how some things go?)

            The trouble is I just don’t quite think your there ( if there is such a place or an anywhere in ‘quantum space” for that matter )

            Yet —your trying and I would give you an A for Effort but I hate the grading system so I wont.

            I am just a BOZO with his head up his anus. (Remember that funny art statue?) Especially when I realize I am giving un-asked for advice which is one of the most stupidest things one can do!!

            Wait! No Wait —- I am NOT giving advice. I am just sharing an opinion and hopefully it is some kind of feedback and not the kind of opinion ” everyone has one if you know what I mean?”

            Nah, not really —- neither do I have a long Fuung-Choo Mustache. I just sense you playing around with the UNCONSCIOUS! Watch out for it’s like they say in that former Butter Commercial” – ‘It’s Not Nice Play To With Mother Nature (The UNCONSCIOUS).

            I think in that TV AD she was talking about “Freud;s Kindergarden or nursery school?”

            I found as a general rule or principle the moment one becomes absolutely certain their CONSCIOUS is the moment their really the most UNCONSCIOUS.

            Then again, I maybe mistaken? You could be like some Old-School Irish Bragiddimos! ( not really bragging but more like a Flair for Story-Telling —- something most needed in them and in Poets as well.) At least they can tell a story which draws a attention!

            Naga —- Yours is a Great Story but I aint R2 -D2 like in Star Wars! Way over my un-robotic head! ( you did say only about 3% look at what you post and 1% understand it. Are you sure about that, ha, ha!)

            Weird isn’t it!



          • HAL838 on March 27, 2012 at 5:56 am

            Yes Paul, you are right, of course.

            Long before, and in fact, forever before yahweh
            and a three-way gay godhead,
            there was the God-dess who created within herself
            and not outside of him/it self…………
            AND
            where the heck is that, anyway ?



          • SSNaga on March 27, 2012 at 10:06 am

            Little ch-ill-dren. I’d “Un-Veil” What Is Behind the E-Veil (Evil World/Universe), or Energy-Veil Of The VOID (Dualed Into One, “Every Unity Is Also A Duality,” (Eloise Franco))… But It Isis night hopeless. In my 9 yrs. on the www, I discovered the Ape is “unready” (UnRipe Fruit ThereIf). Sad, but So. … Now, I merely Scatter Seeds… No doubt, the Birds Enjoy ’em (EL-ementals & company below). … And Paul, you read that Wrong: I stated “1-to3” % “read” what I convey – closer to 1%, depending – I never stated any “understand” – Only those Directly Connected to Universal Mind (DiVine; The Vine, Vesica Pisces) will KNow “Whereof I Speak.” IT IsIs the Veiled Truth (NON-Relative, NON-Temporal). … Besides, The Truth IsIs “self”-Shielded (Shielded from “low self”). Creation Is A Symphony that UnFolds A Story Within A Game… That Produces An Ultra-ReFined Essence (Called “More”). This is the WaveField-‘Particle’Realm called “Life-Afterlife,” or the Whirling Dual-DirectionAll Twin Vortices that Produce A “Seemingness” of Seperation (Duality/Polarity), “the ILLUSION.” It’s INTENT IsIs Above-Beyond “The Created.” All IsIs Process (One, Dualed)… this only “Appears” as things & entities, which are Notes In The Symphony (Sounding Forms). … And AI – you Are CORRECT… The MOTHER (/Inherent Father) IS The One REAL… All Is The Issue: “Nothing ~ All – Something – Everything ~ Nothing(Father/Mother). “From Dust All Came Forth, And To Dust All Shall ReTurn.” The Illusion “IsIs” DisSolved From WithIN (“From Nothingness All Came Forth, And To Nothingnes All Will ReTurn”). …. Paying Attention, Paul? – UnConscious – SubConscious – Conscious (3) – SupraConscious (1). The First Three (Trinity) & The One (OldNew) – 3 + 1. There/This IsIs “The MORE.” The One (Supra) IsIs Cosmic Consciousness (also known in All Cultures: Samadhi, Satori, Nirvana, Tao &c)… I First EXperienced Spontaneous CC at age 17, which lasted 3 Days (no effort was associated, no methods, no substances). It Occurred twice More. … Walter Russell experienced It all during his entire adult life (“Secret of Light”). Only “those” who have EXperence TrueCC can Comprehend The State (none others) – It Is The 4th State or Fruit Of The Flower Of Creation … which All Will KNow – It’s The “Denouing Stage”. Entry In & KNowing Of The CORE (Center). Man(un)kind only “suspects” Such State (CC) may ‘exist.’ … Those Who Have… are “Not Of This World” – bu In It – Until The Process Completes. Such is Not “religion or science,” the Corpse Dwellers (Duality/Polarity). The TORUS Bears This Fruit (YOU-N-iVerse). There Is A Hidden Third “Dot” In The YIN-YANG Symbol: The Vesica Pisces (Dual LENS, or Penis-eYe). This IsIs The Impermeable, Impenetrable CORE (Center) – Carefully Observe What your Masters KNow! – Washinton Monument (Yoni & Lingam/Obelisk/You): http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357ldogz9/washingtonobelisk_yoni.jpg Two Spheres (Effect) WithIn The Third Sphere(Cause)



          • SSNaga on March 27, 2012 at 10:26 am

            Sorry, that link was removed. Here is a working url of it: http://astronomologer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/dc_obelisk_vesica-piscis.jpg



          • paul degagne on March 27, 2012 at 2:12 pm

            NAGA,

            It’s so nice of you to think of our little feathered friends eating the ‘scattered seeds” you sow! Their hungry too. This reference reminded me of poor Hansel and Gredel who laid down bread crumbs as a trail leading back out of the forest.

            They almost ended up on the wicked witches dinner plate! I heard from Grimms Fairy Tales that some of these fables are based on actual events. ( There were times in European History such as famines when you know —- That word Euro-centric Peoples accused those peoples with an excess of Melotonine (however you spell it and I am sure it wasn’t an excess but a need for the Sun Blares Stronger the further south one goes from Germany even though it’s beautiful APPEARANCE just above the Alps Mountain tops at Dawn must be a sight for sore eyes? (Just like certain Lonely Highways in N + S Dakota, hey James? I thumbed there too.)

            Now — Where the heck was I? Oh Yes — the name or accusatory word of —-CANABALISM! ( Maybe Europe is not looking at the Dawn but at a Sunset? Many people wiser than I believe this to be true. Probably a cause for Celebration but I wouldn’t for I think it’s a bit premature. Who Knows? ( There were rumors that right after the Fall of Berlin in WWII = tasty veal meat was available amongst almost total famishment. But one can imagine at a very high premmin price. What with the ravished ruins or surroundings of a defeated nation almost anything is possible. Yes, young delicious tender veal MEAT!

            I better knock this shit off for I don’t want people thinking I am a Hanabal Lector wanabe. Even though I like pork I rather follow proper Dietary Rules and the Golden Rule which does mean I Love Thy Neighbor That Much! Ha, ha!

            Maybe IT IS evening for Europe or at Least for America. (Sure looks that way1) I know it must be evening SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW ON THIS PLANET!

            You say Eat or Be Eaten —- Sadly —- I find this to be true. Tell me it isn’t so! I wont ask you for I rather have you not lie? (even the little permissiveable little white fibs we tell the little ones to spare them the pain of full maturity.)

            So I mistook the 1%. Shame on me! You post so much I feel like I’m entering some Initiation Ritual. ( I rather not but my Unconscious sometimes has other plans?)

            Now I am going to LOOK UP that website you mention.

            Until then,

            Carry on Soldier, ha,ha!



          • HAL838 on March 27, 2012 at 4:26 pm

            Hey Paul !
            You actually read all that tripe?
            Don’t you know that they are coded messages
            to those nasty galactic aliens getting ready for the harvest !?!



          • SSNaga on March 27, 2012 at 5:42 pm

            Poor kid, brought to the “ignoble end” of being reduced to ad hominem (“tripe”)… you have no legs to stand on, best crawl in such manner as ye may. Back to your delimited “pseudo-intellectual” box, the colors/forms of which change constantly. Pathetic Ignorance & Innocence. “ET” *Boo!*



          • SSNaga on March 27, 2012 at 6:14 pm

            The “Myth” of HansEL & GretEL IS the Story of The Creation Process. They Achieve The Final Maneuver of Conscious-Awareness (The Great Mystery) & “Make It Home” Safely. They Represent the Twin Lovers, The Dual Spirals That Mysteriously are Their Own sSelves That They Must OverCome. Four Forces, UnBalanced (“Life”) – Mundane-Profane~Sacred-Divine. They Become “The ELs” by Using That Very Maneuver – “What Is It?” … It Is The Journey of The 4-Fold YouNiverse (of Infinite). Body-Mind~Soul-Spirit In Balance = The Heart (5th ELement).



          • HAL838 on March 28, 2012 at 2:00 am

            Woe Nagy.
            Are you the new dump for all the
            lysergicacidyathelamide being confiscated
            by the new docs in the Criminally Insane Activities ?



          • SSNaga on March 28, 2012 at 4:13 am

            Deer… that’s your Mirror.



          • paul degagne on March 28, 2012 at 4:33 am

            HAL,

            I do read all that “tripe”, ha, ha! You got to hand it to Naga for he is Audacious even at times when he least knows what the hell he’s talking about. That is the time I pay the most “attention” for as they say, “Out of the mouth of Babies comes…!

            Naga, this is just good humored fun poked at friends so don’t go into some kind of conniption, ok?

            If there are any buffoons around here than I am the biggest buffoon in here. (remember – I did say I am a little grandiose?)

            I just learnt the other day from a soul brother that the origin of Rap Music ?????? if you want to call that crap music — more like rumblings in the gang’s neighborhood?

            That SHOOTING THE DOZENS was the origin or how it all started!

            Some Hollywood Music industry con-mongrel figured out “We cant depict them as dumb anymore so we’ll pay a few of these RAPPERS great sums of money! (Meanwhile, keeping the ‘focus” off true accomplishments Blacks in all fields are making.)

            The new GHETTO NATION?

            Kill two birds with one stone!

            I just digressed or got off the topic.

            I am going to post my further comments right after this post.



          • paul degagne on March 28, 2012 at 5:28 am

            Before I go into what I really want to POST,

            One more diversion?

            Some of this MAMBO JAMBO (as my Internet Asian Friend from Thailand calls it – she’s a Catholic so she cant be helped, ha.ha!) Occult or Esoteric Magio-Mythological-Symbolic writings or viewpoints Naga is all the time making> (not all the time for I pick up on the inter-splices where I think you are winking at me?) are very profound!

            Who has the time to get a Phd in Philology, Ancient History, Semiotics, etc. What do you think Farrell is trying to figure out when he calls in my own words “THOSE TEMPLES WERE RADIO TRANSMITTORS!”

            All this Mambo Jambo was the Science of the Day for them. It would do good to understand a little of it but alas it takes interest/motivaton to bury one’s self in some dusty old library for a couple of years like they do at MIT and even CAMBRIDGE.

            Too much self-sacrifice for too little rewards!

            Until then we just remain bystanders or spectators of that kind of knowledge, Naga included.

            ________________________________

            Now on to what I want to post.

            I must be making headway in this phenomenology wild-dog-chase for while I am “sniffing around’ I accidently (synchronicitical ?) stumbled across (yes I am a fumbling, stumbling, Bungling slow poke but so what — the turtle won the race did he?) I came across this partial paragraph which doesn’t imply Phenomenology directly but it surely is whispering something?

            You site MEMBERS are motivating me. You get me out of this lethalgic (spelt wrong) funk into a true dialogic FORUM MOOD as I suppose Farrel wishes for or as he intends his web-site to be.

            Kind of like the Public Forum on UC-Berkley’s Stairs or Union Square in NYC – once upon a time. (did you know a certain Columbia Law Professor used to send his future trial attorney students to Union Square to learn tips on the Art of Oration. (shooting the dozens is a slight off-version of the ancient art of Oration or Oral Cultures before the catastrophe of Guttenburg?)

            Here the partial paragraph (2cd half):

            ” I apparently said familiar since the impression of knowing such things thoroughly, inside out, and therefore expecting there to be nothing new to be learned from and about them, also an illusion — in the case coming precisely from their being too close to the eye to see them clearly for what they are. Nothing escapes scrutiny so nimbly, resolutely and stubbornly as “things at hand”, things “always there’, “never changing”. They are so to speak “hiding in the light” — the light of deceptive and misleading familiarity! Their ordinariness is a blind discouraging all scrutiny. To make them into objects of interest and close examination they must first be cut off and torn away from the sense — blunting, cozy yet vicious cycle of routine quotidinity. They must first be set aside and kept at a distance before scanning them properly can become conceivable: the bluff of their alleged “ordinariness” must be called at the start. And then the mysteries they hide, profuse and profound mysteries — those turning strange and puzzling once you start thinking about them — can be laid bare and explored!

            ________________

            Farrel does this in the reverse. He takes “strange” stuff and turns them into something almost sounding ‘familiar.”

            I am learning how to take Ordinariness and turn it into something ‘strange.” (this way I can overcome my dull life and not pass the time away watching TV which dumbmifies one even more. I pretend I am some Native PHD Anthropologist doing ‘Ethnographic Fieldwork in the United States.” ( and this Native researcher says, “boy do these americans have some strange habits, beliefs and rituals, Ha, ha!”)

            Did you place house with the girl or boy next door when you were a kid?



          • SSNaga on March 28, 2012 at 5:52 am

            As I have stated, “Do Not Touch It.” Same perforce with Looking At It Directly. … And before you “honor Houses of ‘degrees'” too Blindingly (peruse today’s re-given Einstein quote), Comprehend – they & theirs Are the Least “knowing.” Here’s The Process Progression: INTUITION – REASON ~ KNOWING (CORE, Universal/DiVine Mind, “I & The Father/MOTHER Are One”). … Get your polish & cloth out, for you’ve missed a Spot.



        • HAL838 on March 28, 2012 at 10:43 am

          Actually, I know Naga from dealings with his brotherhood
          [and sisters now as I was corrected not too long ago.]

          They are [for real !] TAUGHT to speak and write that way
          for the purpose of sounding smart while telling everyone else
          how stupid they are and how superior HE is.
          And no one is supposed to know that it’s a put-down.

          He actually gets paid to crap on the newspaper !

          “Citizen…” was [trying] to fake it, but Naga is for real
          as he IS taught that.

          IT’S A TRAP, PAUL !
          Don’t fall for it !



          • SSNaga on March 28, 2012 at 11:27 am

            Run, Paul, Runnn… (you can use a scooter). That Old “Snare of Illusion” will get you everytime.



          • HAL838 on April 2, 2012 at 6:14 pm

            For real…………..Naga makes miracles.

            He strums the keyboard like a piano or guitar
            and real words come out.
            I certainly wouldn’t ask for proper punctuation as well.

            GO Nagy !



          • paul degagne on April 3, 2012 at 2:42 am

            HAL,

            Thanks for the warning?

            The only thing I Scream For is Ice Cream.

            HIS Ego trip is obvious to anyone who has suffered ‘Delusions of Grandeur” or even a bit of Dellurim every now and then. (Brotherhoods contain some of the worst narcissists IN THE WORLD! but I don’t think he fits into that category — I don’t like giving anyone UNDESERVED COMPLIMENTS although I think Naga is the kind of person who is a SUCKER FOR FLATTERY? I kind of like Naga in an Irksome way even if he is as you warn? The again I used to play with matches as a kid. )

            I learned things from reading Ferdinand Celine?

            Anyway — that aside —Bombastic Writing Styles are sometimes more fun than a Barrel of Nagas! Ha, ha!

            Naga — That is a good one — A SCOOTER — THAT STRUCK MY FUNNY BONE!

            Now — the kids growing up got motorized ones. (maybe no love but motorized scooters?) I used a couple of boards or planks and a pair of old sidewalk skates and if we were really inventive – a Clara-bell the Clown Horn!

            Presto – A Scooter to RUN, RUN, RUN WITH!

            RUN WITH ME, RUN WITH ME, YEAH RUN! — remember that old DOORS SONG?



          • paul degagne on April 3, 2012 at 2:58 am

            No HAL,

            I think it’s really about us VAIN INTELLECTUALS. Sometimes we like to think = in order to be a proper INTELLECTUAL we have to act like some Aristocrat and be absolutely cynical and pessimistic ALL THE TIME! Not so.! We can joke and play around with Absurdity along this WE HATE OURSELVES EXISTENTIAL COFFEE-SHOP ACT!

            Remember that movie, now what’s the name of it – it’s has a cultish following? it’s a real bad one or real TRANSGRESSIVE! In it the SADIST FLUFFLES or ruffleshis lacy shirt cuffs in order to show his audience he can also be soft and gentle (sensitive) along with the usual cruel macho display of strength and power.

            A “DANDY” today is not the same kind of guy as the Dandy in the 18th Century. There, they wanted to stand out with their finery (clothes) from the anonymous mobs who were forming during the early rise of Modernity and Huge Cities.

            I like Baudelaire’s Image of the Dandy standing as proud and defiant as can be in that boat to hell where the dandy is about to meet the famous character one has to give a coin to in order to pass into the realm of Death.

            That is the FRENCH IMAGE of machismo or the French version of the MATIDOR OR BULLFIGHTER!

            BUT BULL-SHIT-SLINGERS ARE NOT THE SAME THING. (some squirts get it backwards, ha, ha!)

            Again — thanks for the HEADS UP HAL! ( I suspected as much after all this is the INTERNET and one never really knows who’s one is dealing with?)



  11. Robert Barricklow on March 23, 2012 at 8:22 am

    Many a good scientist has been backballed over the years in standing tall against the scieentist schills of Monsanto and their ilk. At least in Europe they have some semblance of scientific infrastructure thats withstood the corruption manifested in our Jolly Green Giant Monopolies.
    Still, the the INTERNATIONAL banking cartel is destroying their societies as well as ours. The BRICS appear to be drawing their wagons in a circle of public good vs this elitist privatized greed cabal.
    We need to root these internationalist privateers in banking/finance, military/industrial, industrial agriculture, pharmeaceuticals & other privated monopolies – OUT!
    They are sucking the life blood of our communties dry.



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