CONTACTEES, KOOKS, NAZIS, AND RELIGION

I have to share this one and comment about it, because it was brought to my attention by a friend, P.H.:

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3692p2-the-white-supremacist-and-fascist-ufo-contactees

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

57 Comments

  1. paul degagne on May 7, 2012 at 4:00 am

    I have no further comments to make under this title or article except for this one last observation—-

    54 posts and counting on this article—

    does this beat the article Farrell posted recently about the Alternate Theories Movement?

    ( I think I hear some faint HUMMING or even better —- deep moving waters running under the so-called PLACID-NESS? ( NOW all his articles for this ‘forged derivatives/ documents really bends my ear as if my ear was not bent enough?.

    Hey Mister Farrell — we know what you are attempting here in showing (sic) concrete EVIDENCE of what — Babylonian Bankers or whatever label one choses to use. (we’re the CHOIR). People will believe it for a couple of days then move on to something else but I know the bunch of technicians —- are in agreement that the weather over thousands of years created the changes made in the Sphinz’s surface.

    Now that is one possibility that I believe REALLY MOVES CERTAIN PEOPLE and will help ‘OPEN PANDORA’S BOX and release that last SIN OR woe on humanity that couldn’t manage to escape and the sin is called === FALSE HOPE.

    Be careful what you wish for for it just MAY COME TRUE?

    ( you see — I can be a jeramia too, ha, ha but that gets old pretty fast because who the heck am I but just another old TWIRP on the butcher BLOCK?!



  2. SSNaga on May 5, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    About two yrs. ago, I woke up late, and realized the Connection was strongly On (I Am a 40-yr., daily, nightime meditator). I had to hurry to get to work, but I knew The Presence takes no “hold” connections; ignoring it could cause disconnect. So I gave it my undivided attention, while mechanically preparing for work. It lasted abouy half an hr., ending precisely as I opened the car door to head out. … As I woke, I felt & saw a Coned Beam of Clear Lyght over my head; it was filled/interspersed with mini, fractal galaxy-like clusters, each about the size of a quarter. The fractal clusters were all different. As they descended, they entered my head & burst open within, displaying visual imagery & communication, plus direct knowing, disseminating at incredible speed. As it comleted its information, another fractal-cluster formation would descend into the top of my head, and open within, producing a different message content. Duration of the Connection was approx. 30 minutes. What was revealed is beyond limited hue-man knowledge & awareness. Each of you, someday, some life-experience, will experience such communication with “The Universal Mind.” Suffice to say: you are being fooled, and made to stay & play “the fool.” … PS – The Fool takes the “first step” (causing “motion”) upon The Wellworn Path, achieving Wisdom only at the near-End Stage of its Journey. … PPS – ‘One portion’ of this infostorm displayed/revealed there are three species on the Moon. One, invisible, is The Predator of awareness, which has a dual form; another are terrestrial Earth humans, some born on this world, others on the Moon; the final group are humanoids from diverse planets, local & galactic. Disbelief & belief are states of unknowing. This is Direct Knowing; “you Know.” You are In a HyperCube Construct (see Walter Russell’s work). … Now, back to your regularly scheduled Programming… (Sleep, bright angels, sleep).



    • paul degagne on May 6, 2012 at 5:12 am

      Naga,

      Thanks for revealing that your a Meditator. ( I could be a pretty good transpersonal psychologist if I wanted but , no — BUT I don’t like that word just the same as Farrell doesn’t like all the CONNOTATIONS associated with the word conspiracy theorist?

      In a way we have a more ‘evolved’ and much easier form of it (meditation) === sitting in front of a Boob Tube and having images and light frequencies FLICKER in the only part of our Brain that is exposed to the outside (our eyes) or a computer in Virtual Cyberspace is almost the same as old fashion meditation ( it’s like giving up the SLIDE RULE because we have tiny minuiture calculators to do the repetitious or boring arithemetic but in this process we forgot OUR ADDITION TABLES AND NO LONGER KNOW 1 + 1 = 2. ( that is ok, I guess?,for the more TRANSHUMANIST younger people but I think they are being LED SOMEPLACE using only those MEANS? (the computer requires a little more mental movement(states) in the creation of Images but nowhere near as much as reading!) (reading has its own set of problems but it seems to be fading and the problems are easier to see or get at as the Modern Age is Ending?)

      You may create your own individual “images” between the ‘Images’ INDUCED within from the MEDIA but a 1000 to one is not very good odds —
      Will the one image you do create take precedance over the mindless 1000? Maybe but don’t bet any money on it — but UNCONSCIOUSLY I doubt it greatly because we don’t know half of whats flowing into our bodies! ( if you had to be consciously aware of all the leg action processes it takes just to ‘cross a “city street’ then by the time you did —-you would already have been RUN OVER BY A CAR, ha, ha!! ( so much for most of this -‘free-will debate, even if we do have it sometimes?)

      Naga — this little bit of HONESTY in this most recent post of yours speaks volumes to me? I have a clearer ‘picture” of you and some of what your attempting to communicate in your off-BEAT-(HIC) (jazzy) way. It’s a clue on why I am Irking you over Boundaries of the Psychic and the Soma? ( or put anthropological NO-ONE yet has found A satisfactory solution to the problem of Culture and Nature (SPLIT) for that elusive MIDDLE GROUND = the Impossible?

      [ trying to figure out that one in an honest way and you will go BALD before your time from pulling out your hair. Of course there are those who do claim to have resolved once and for all that troublesome question but they are in the end BALD-FACE-LIARS OR BULL-SHIT-SLINGERS! ( one could say they are not what I just called sic them (sic) stereotypical TYPE but then they need to truly know what a METAPHOR is rather than to ‘slip’ metaphors into the game and pass this imitation of the real thing OFF as direct causality! ( metaphors are terrific but not when we ‘religiously pretend to be using SCIENTIFIC LANGUAGE?)

      Hey —- the Professors in College had this HAMBURGER and dressed it up as very expensive tenderloin MEAT and served it to us? ( I have nothing against the ‘lowly hamburger” for when one is starving for knowledge a hamburger tastes great and has nutritional VALUE and students are HUNGRY for knowledge and wisdom as they should be at that younger age.

      Now the students ate the HAMBURGER (students have the same brain-volume capacity as the Professor so they quickly realize it’s hamburger but know they need to get a PASSING GRADE and they are a little bit afraid of speaking out (for obvious reasons) so they run to the nearby store and buy a FAKE SILVER PLATTER and serve the hamburger back to the professor.

      The Professor says “EXCELLENT CLASS OR STUDENT’ and everyone’s is happy and moves on to the next FRAUDULENT level. ( not everyone)

      That IS what we call an Educational Institution?

      I seem to have gotten off the beaten track here?

      I envy you people who can MEDITATE! I cant! I just reflect in my armchair or when I am doing something habitual that doesn’t require much thought I PONDER but I don’t like PANDERING at all. ( i do realize we have to do a little BROWN-NOSING every once and a while and who knows if it really is sucking up because some people love and need it and pay us back a thousandfold if we’re lucky!)

      I like hamburger as much as the rest of our fellow human-beings and I just love DIVINE STEAK ( I have to laugh because David Icke’s Reptiles thought human beefsteaks was divine too. Does this give us a clue on the GNOSTIC CONCEPT of DIVINE INCARNATION, ha, ha!

      Forgive me Naga for the above short paragraph for I was just trying to be ”’CUTE?””””

      Have a mystical day today, this SOLAR DAY = today.

      PS.

      Looking for mystical experiences in all the wrong places ( churches, the grand canyon, Washington DC) and what do we find there? Mister or Misses GOODBAR! Try observing the most lousy mundane everyday experiences and BEHOLD what do we find there === I’m not telling, ha, ha!!!!!!

      (it is dam near impossible for me to get this FORMAL Ritual of meditation down path ( my body says “it’s a trap?”) (you know SUIT and TIE ) ritual on HOW TO MEDITATE by people who know all the technical MONKEY-SEE and MONKEY-DO outward/surface movement (think Jacques Elull?) but never had a really full sic ‘experience” mainly because their ‘DEPTH’ level is equivalent to a PUDDLE in the middle of the road (got skunks?)! Ha, ha, ( I know it is naughty to laugh at people but I LOVE the stories of MAD TAOIST ZEN MONKS!!!! Their great! legions! Setting one’s body in the full lotus position or that triangle seems to me to be the “perfect position” as some School of Zen state but for us Psychic Paupers who are DENIED such entrances — we have to do things in a different ‘but reach the same destination manner’ (actually we given up carrying or dragging the ‘raft” because ( it’s so simple it’s hard to get ) we cant believe we really got to the OTHER SIDE so we carry this ‘raft’ on our poor worn out backs or drag it with our chains connected to our wrists. ( it’s heroic though — for who would criticize anyone who has carried their wounded conrade ten miles through the jungle EVEN THOUGH HE DIED WHEN YOU GOT TO SAFETY? The dead loved ones relativeswould care but that doesn’t bring the ‘fellow journeyer back?”)

      30 minutes is quite a long time.



    • paul degagne on May 6, 2012 at 5:43 am

      Naga,

      Did you eat a bad Turnip that day?

      I remember reading that was once used or mentioned as a causal factor for such experiences in William James ‘The Variety of Religious Experience.”

      I love LOGICAL-POSITIVIST EXPLANATIONS! ( although at one time that FORM OF RATIONALIZATION use to send DREADFUL SHIVERS up and down my SPINE. along with B. F. SKINHEAD!

      Now — no more for I can see the humor in it?

      Whether a freaking TURNIP triggered it or a MAC DONALD’S HAMBURGER or HEGELIAN PHENOMENA DOESN’T MATTER in the least bit.

      The experience is what counts!

      One more thing about Contactees, Kooks, Nazis, and Religion >>> I would love to get a hold of that farmer who one day saw Aliens come out of a flying saucer and went directly to his ‘chicken coop’ and STOLE his chickens!!!!!

      This UFO and Chicken Thief recorded incident or police report was a reference told by the former Robert A. Wilson and fellow FERAL Press Author that Farrell uses.

      His (Wilson’s) advice was DON’T KNOCK IT for one can learn a lot using phenomenological concepts in this case! ( and have a good time laughing while studying it — not bad Bobby Boy wherever you are now?)



    • Robert Barricklow on May 6, 2012 at 12:34 pm

      “I seek a particular fool.” The soldier said.
      “Then you seek nothing. He cannot exist. If he be a fool, then he cannot be particular.
      And if he is paricular, he is no fool.”



  3. Awake on May 5, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    All roads lead to Rome, but not neccessarily the pope. I suspect all sides are financed and controlled by the same group. The New agers, all the world’s religous institutions, the occupy wallstreeters, the Greek rioters, the alternative media, mainstream media, most of the world’s governments and armies and their rebels. They manufacture all the alternatives and control them but let us choose which ones will succeed. If we allow a one world totalitarian regime by not resisting strongly enough we will get it. If we resist strong enough they will lead the resistance and out come according to what suits them best and the strongest minds of the resistance. They give us several opposeing alternatives and let us choose how they play out by seeing how much we will take. But the name of the game is to always keep us distracted and always under their control and manufactured oppositions.



    • bdw000 on May 5, 2012 at 6:18 pm

      That is exactly how I see it.



    • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 6:40 pm

      World of Deception/not democracy.



      • romanmel on May 5, 2012 at 10:48 pm

        Slight-of-hand on an international scale.



  4. bdw000 on May 5, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    What follows is because some of the most famous “channeled entities” in recent decades are “Pleiadians” (supposedly nordic iirc).

    I read once somewhere (can’t remember) where someone “said” (no proof of course) that “the CIA” (but let it be any secretive gov’t agency) had the technology to “channel”: that what some channelers were “channeling” was literally some gov’t agency. IIRC (I repeat, iirc !) the “technology” was just a group (no idea what the number was, but pretend it is something like 10 or 20) of psychically trained govt employees (can you say “remote viewer”?).

    I have no idea if that is true or not, but it seems logical to me that this is a feasible scenario. I would explain a lot (though that is no proof of its correctness).

    Personally I think channelers, at least some of them, are “authentic” in the sense that through some non-physical means someone or someTHING is communicating through them. This does not of course validate the TRUTHFULNESS of anything channeled. But I think the phenomenon itself is “real.”

    What do you think about channeling Joe? Don’t you think this is something that might have been around for thousands of years? I’m guessing that the oracle at Delphi was at least at some times an “authentic” communication from something.

    I am not saying I think channeled material is all “good” or reliable. Nor am I certain that anything written above is correct. I’m just saying that channeling appears to me to be a very real part of our world, and that it does influence people, both ancient and modern. Because of that it deserves further study. Something is going on. The more that we can understand it the better for us (if not “them”).

    Some psychics can obviously do some extraordinary things at times, even if they are not 100% reliable. It seems logical that there could be (COULD be) people elsewhere that might have this capability.

    I agree that any far-out info that we just have to “take on faith” is close to useless . . . .

    ps. I wouldn’t get too hung up on the “nordic” angle: if they are out there, they are out there (not saying I know). You can’t rule nordic aliens out just because of Hitler. To automatically rule out anyone with blond hair as a fraud would be just as silly as to automatically rule out someone with brown hair or black skin. Logically that sort of thinking gets you nowhere.



    • bdw000 on May 5, 2012 at 6:14 pm

      Some people would call Mohammed a channeler. If true (not saying I know), that would be some serious influence in the world! Just think how impressive channeling might be to (what we would call) primitive human beings? Sometimes I wonder how many religions have been started by channeling, just because it’s an impressive trick . . . . .

      Worthy of study, worthy of study.



      • bdw000 on May 5, 2012 at 6:16 pm

        I wish we could edit our posts!!

        I forgot to say the obvious: many MODERN humans are impressed by channeling too!



        • romanmel on May 5, 2012 at 10:53 pm

          Try the spirits to see that they are of God.



    • legioXIV on May 6, 2012 at 7:27 pm

      Haha just ask Croesus what he thinks about channeling and the oracle at Delphi.



  5. marcos anthony toledo on May 5, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    unfortunately ET subsitute now for God’s mouthpieces same swill in new containers we must be wary of these so called messangers of peace.



    • paul degagne on May 6, 2012 at 6:04 am

      Marcos —

      You ought to be a railroad engineer or conductor for you then could stop the train on a dime instead of the two miles it sometimes takes to end the forward momentum!

      You remind me of a publishing editor — Cut, Cut, Cut —- to the bone!

      What a Way to Go — I wish I could IMITATE?



  6. Walter Bosley on May 5, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    “…extraterrestrial forces intervene against the Western industrialised countries, because these will be responsible for the extreme and enormous disaster of the coming evil times. These extraterrestrial forces will give up their anonymity and their state of secrecy and will assist those who are being terrorised by the irresponsibly acting Western countries…”

    Oh please



  7. Walter Bosley on May 5, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    ” extraterrestrial forces intervene against the Western industrialised countries, because these will be responsible for the extreme and enormous disaster of the coming evil times. These extraterrestrial forces will give up their anonymity and their state of secrecy and will assist those who are being terrorised by the irresponsibly acting Western countries”

    Oh, for crying out loud. Here we go with the Lefty globalist New Age dogma again. The ETs are not going to express their solidarity with Marxist-leaning forces of the world because such thinkers have every bit as much actual blood on their hands as the west gets accused of. Please find a new angle! The so-called peace-loving, Gaia priest space brothers schtick is as stale as the daisies in a hippie necklace from the Summer of Love.

    ET doesn’t give a rat’s ass about eco-politics.



    • LadyLaLa on May 5, 2012 at 3:50 pm

      oh…and spoken as an ET? lmao
      I love the opinions about “what ETs will or will not do”…Amazing.

      The fact is the technology prophecised in this “ET communication” decades ago is already HERE….and NOW.
      This is a FACT…
      So how is this fraudulent?
      That is the question I am posing… to Dr Farrell as well?

      Nothing was made public about trans-human robots or even the murderous INTENTION of these psycho-puppies 20 years ago yet the predictions go back much further.
      Again… How is this fraudulent?
      The answer: It isn;t.
      Lady LaLa



  8. LadyLaLa on May 5, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    You don’t think this is where we are headed and in many ways are… already at??
    As stated, Native Americans have indicated that the Billy Meier information is accurate.
    Here are excerpts from the Billy Meier ET predictions which are claimed to be a fraud.

    Trans-humanism [merging humans with machines] is already in the works. Unscrupulous scientists have worked with the blood-thirsty PTBs to come up with state-of-the-art Electro Magnetic weaponry, biochemical warfare and remote ways of murdering individuals without leaving a shred of evidence.
    You be the judge…. fraud or is the scenario he paints very likely?

    Lady LaLa

    The point in time at which these prophecies will begin to be fulfilled will be when a Pope will no longer reside in Rome. All of Europe will then fall victim to a terrible punishment by evil powers. The Christian religion will collapse and the churches and monasteries will end up in ruins and ashes.

    Monstrous forces will be created by science and will be released by the military forces and armies as well as by terrorists, causing great destruction. Millions and even billions of people will be killed by acts of terrorism, by wars and civil wars; and finally, in some parts of the world, every third human being, and, in other places, every fourth human being, will lose his or her life. The nations of the East will rise against the nations of the West, the West against the East. Many deaths will be inflicted upon the people by fighter and bomber aircraft, and bombs and rockets will destroy and annihilate smaller and larger villages and cities.

    The people will be completely powerless against all this and will live through 888 days of Hell on Earth, suffering hunger and plagues which will claim even more lives than the war itself. The time will be severe as never before experienced on Earth. Ultimately, nothing can be bought or sold any longer. All provisions will be rationed;

    Everything in the West will be destroyed;
    After the turn of the millennium, the papacy will exist only a short period. Pope John Paul II is the third from last in this position. After him, only one additional pontificate will follow. Then a Pontifex Maximus follows who will be known as Petrus Romanus. Under his religious rule, the end of the Catholic Church will come, a total collapse becoming inevitable. That will be the beginning of the worst catastrophe that will ever have befallen the human beings and the Earth. Many Catholic clerics, priests, bishops, cardinals and many others will be killed and their blood will flow in streams. But also the reformed version of Christianity will become just as infinitely small, as does Catholicism.
    Horrifying weapons and a possible world war
    Due to the fault of scientists, enormous power will be seized by the power-hungry and their military, their warriors and terrorists, and power will be seized as well through laser weapons of many types, but also via atomic, chemical and biological weapons. Also concerning genetic technology, enormous misuse will occur, because this will be unrestrainedly exploited for the purposes of war, not lastly due to the cloning of human beings for warring purposes, as this was practised in ancient times with the descendants of Henoch in the regions of Sirius.
    However, this will not be all of the horrors; as besides the genetic technology and the chemical weapons, far worse and more dangerous and more deadly weapons of mass destruction will be produced and will be used. The irresponsible politicians will unscrupulously exercise their power, assisted by scientists and obedient military forces serving them, who together hold a deadly sceptre and will create clone-like beings which will be bred in a total lack of conscience and will be scientifically manipulated to become killer machines. Division by division and devoid of any feelings, they will destroy, murder and annihilate everything.
    The USA will set out against the Eastern countries ahead of all other financial states and simultaneously she will have to defend herself against the Eastern intruders. In all, America will play the most decisive role, when in the guise to strive for peace and to fight against terrorism she invades many countries of the Earth, bombs and destroys everything and brings thousandfold deaths to the populations. The military politics of the USA will likewise know no limits, as neither will their economic and other political institutions which will be focused on building and operating a world police force, as it is the case already for a long time [sic]. But that will not be enough, and, in the guise of a so-called peaceful globalisation, American politics will aspire to gain absolute control of the world concerning supremacy in economy.

    And this will point towards the possibility that a Third World War could develop from it, if human beings as a whole will NOT finally reflect upon reason, become reasonable and undertake the necessary steps against the insane machinations of their governments and military powers as well as their secret services, and call a halt to the power of the irresponsible who have forsaken their responsibility in all areas.

    If this does not happen, many small and great nations will lose their independence and their cultural identity and will be beaten down, because the USA will gain predominance over them and with evil force bring them down under her rule. At first, many countries will howl with the wolves of the US, partially due to fear of American aggressions and sanctions, as will be the case with many, many irresponsible [ones] In part, others will join in because they will be forced somehow to do so or will be misled by irresponsible promoters of American propaganda.

    Finally, many Asian, African and European states will rise up against the American hegemony, once they recognise that the United States of America is only taking advantage of them for purposes of war, conquest and exploitation. In this way, many countries will become puppet states of America before reason and realisation will emerge in the responsible ones of governments and in many of the population, resulting in a turning away from the USA.
    However, the great war will hardly be avoidable because the human beings of Earth will probably not accept the directions towards the better, therewith towards true love, true freedom and real peace, striving instead only towards wealth, pleasure and riches and for all manner of material values and unrestricted power. Thus, huge and deadly formations of tanks will roll across the countries while fighter planes and rockets sweep through the air and bring death, ruin, destruction and annihilation to countries and people.

    If the Third World War will actually happen¡ªas calculations and observations appear to indicate to be probable now and also during the approaching few decades¡ªthen, as now, the civilian population will above all have to bear the brunt of the enormous suffering in tremendous numbers in this entire catastrophe and, last but not least, the fault of the irresponsible scientists who by cloning will create human machines for military purposes, devoid of conscience and feelings, and will create immensely deadly and all-annihilating computer-like weapons.

    At the same time, the danger could become reality that the human combat machines, the military clones, will gain their independence and under their own management will bring death, devastation, destruction and annihilation to the human beings of Earth and to the planet.
    The entire planet will become an arena of unparalleled suffering, which will never have existed before on Earth up to that time. The cruel happenings will last about 888 days and cause civilisation to collapse. Yet, the terrible scenario will continue, and epidemics and various diseases as well as enormous famine will be spread among the people, while the economy of the world will totally collapse and there will be no possibility to produce any goods. All foods and medications will be rationed.
    The insanity of war will extend not only across the land, but the disaster will equally be spread to the oceans, into the atmosphere, even into outer space. But there will also be settlements under the ocean that will be developed in the course of the future and these will be attacked and destroyed, claiming the lives of many thousands of people. However, a certain maelstrom of destruction will also originate from the undersea facilities; because in the cities at the bottom of the ocean, groups of submarine pirates will be formed which will burst upwards from the depths of the ocean and will become involved in destructive actions of combat with naval units on the surface.
    And at this time, the possibility could become reality that extraterrestrial forces intervene against the Western industrialised countries, because these will be responsible for the extreme and enormous disaster of the coming evil times. These extraterrestrial forces will give up their anonymity and their state of secrecy and will assist those who are being terrorised by the irresponsibly acting Western countries, should this possibility become reality.



    • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 1:56 pm

      The enemy, or any so-called “extraterrestial forces” for that matter, are in our DNA.
      To extract, or change them in anyway, would then make us less than human.

      By the by, everytime I try to write a extensive piece such as yours,I get Zapped by an out-of-time boggie bot.



      • romanmel on May 5, 2012 at 9:57 pm

        As a side note about the “out-of-time boggie”, I have learned to always COPY my text 1st before hitting the “submit” button…Hope this helps.



        • Robert Barricklow on May 6, 2012 at 10:15 am

          Thanks



  9. Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 9:32 am

    It’s Nazi INTERnatinal, not national, Do Nazis want to nationalize currencies, power(gas, electric, ect.)? Today we have what Sheldon Wolin calls Inverted Totalitarianism, with corpoartions at the top of the pyramid instead of Hitler or Mussolini.
    Remember the classic Twilight Zone episode: “To Serve Man” where an Alien translation proporting to serve mankind, is instead, a cookbook of mankind (cannibals).
    Will continue…



    • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 9:49 am

      Continued…
      In the book, Columbus and Other Cannibals by the celebrated Indian thinker, Jack D. Forbes. He has a word “Wetiko”, a close translation of which would be a civilization, a society in which therre are so many evil or violent or dishonest people that the police , soldiers, & other armed forces of control, soon approaches equaling the total population. This “Wetiko Psychosis” is a very contagious & rapidly expanding meme. It spreads by Weitkos themselves as they recruit(invect) others. It is spread today by history books, television, military training programs, police training programs, high-pressure missionary groups, ect.
      Whatever we call it, it is a disease consuming all other creature’s lives and possesions. It is epidemic, if not pandemic.



      • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 10:32 am

        Cont…
        Small countries are invaded so that an entire people and their resorces can be exploited. Human beings of all colors are seized or ensnared in debts, and are forced to live out their brief lives as slves or serfs. Boys are raised to obey orders and serve as cannon-fodder, while girls are raised to give their children over to armies, factories, or plantations. People and other living creatures are tortured in the most fiendess of ways imaginable. The cult of aggression & violence reigns supreme, and the prisons & insane asylums are full to bursting. Tagically this form of soul-sickness is catching. The people who rule today have given us the most brutal epoch in history: a collection of military dictatorships, totalitarian societies, and racist-exploitive representative republics and resource gobbling states.



        • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 10:39 am

          cont..,
          This sickness of exploitation has been spreading as a contagion for the past several thousand years. It transforms, heretofore, free people into “superchickens”(as it were) with an especially intensive and brutal pecking-order(ranks, social class, castes, and so on) is, of course, what maintains the system of exploitation, and degrades the masses, who become its victims.

          An excellent book that speaks to the themes Dr. expresses in recent his video blogs.



      • paul degagne on May 5, 2012 at 3:32 pm

        Thanks Robert,

        For some strange reason I was completely unaware of this author ( I am usually quite ASTUTE in such matters but I say to myself ‘Why did I over- look him at the time? Maybe — now is the time I am completely ready to accept certain views or saving the best dish for last??? WHO KNOWS?— Jack D Forbes and his Anti-Civilization Views. (I once was a Green-Anarchist but left that movement for reasons I probably should not go into but if somebody is an Adolescent Teenager or in their early twenties living in Oregon or the Northwest then that is one group (to let off adolescent steam or agnast) to belong to ‘but watch the COPS and stay in the foreground is my advice for we are not breeding MARTYRS TO THE CAUSE!”)

        I am going to have to buy this book next month when I have more money. Anti-civilization and some Native American Movements are a long time interest of mine.I trust some Native American Intellectuals (if that is not insulting them using that Western Term) almost as much as I trust certain Jewish Authors speaking for the Shoah Innocents.

        They know the REAL meaning of Genocide in ways even people like me dare not to imagine? ( and I usually can face ABJECTION but their are limits?)

        One more odd thing—-

        When I visited the BANDIT organization called AMAZON DOT COM and fed the title ‘Columbus and other Canabals” it came up with three versions which is not that surprising. What is surprising is prices. In Fact in one version they wanted>>>>>> 3,121,62 dollars<<<<<<< (I shit you not!) Are they really people that stupid in the World? The other version said 70 dollars used but clicked it on and below was mention of one for 62 dollars. (too steep if you ask me unless one considers it a donation to the cause but how would one know the money is going to Forbes and not some greedy A$$hole instead?)

        Amazon up to it's old Corporate Tricks again as usual. I also use this internet book site called GETTEXTBOOKS.COM and on the average they are pretty reasonable considering 'everybody is out to make a buck on everybody else!' Sometimes if you search hard enough one will find the book their looking for elsewhere but it usually doesn't get much cheaper than Gettextbooks give or take a buck or two? ( I am a PENNYPINCHER because I have to be. What I have to live on is enough to make some of these YUPPY-LIKE-jerks cry with horror BUT the funny thing is I HAVE TIME TO DO THINGS which these MIDDLE CLASS JERKS WORKING 70HRS or more a week don't even have time to take there kids out to play on the swings or see a baseball game for it's all just broken promises to these Future Grown Up KidsJust Like Me( inceedently —-Cat Stevens almost ended up in that pleasant BAY over in Cuba where I once had two weeks training long ago and once upon the time. (in the sixies Gitmo Bay was 'tense' for US personnel but wasn't for the Cuban military over in their BUNKERS – A STONE'S THROW AWAY. They even sat on top of them — smoked mary jane along with their wives or girl-friends and all the hanky-panky while american personal were only allowed to smoke LUCKEY STRIKE CIGARETTES AND 3.2 beer AWAY from where they were performing guard duty. What a gyp!)

        Robert — I just thought you might appreciate this trivia for I have been paying 'close attention" to what you post and find —- some of us are really who we say we are?

        Anyway the book Columbus and other Canabals goes for 12.81 at GETTEXTBOOKS.com (no HIDDEN shipping FEE in the final cost) which isn't that bad.Hey people have to earn a living! I forked over 50 bucks buying 4 of Farrell's used books. it was ok I guess but over the long haul estimation I should have only spent about 10 for the bunch because much of what Farrell writes I am already familiar with and what I aint familiar with I am not particularly interested in Marginal Scientists and UNCONSCIOUS wishes — In all this NAZI Ressurection shit but I admit its a hot issue and sells books.

        Look at Swissaland's Banks for they are the ones who really know where the LOOT OF EUROPE DISAPPEARED TO. (the same place it all goes to = someone else's pockets, ha, ha! The JEWS FORCED THEM TO DEEVIE – UP A few billion HERE AND THERE in reparations to shut them up but the IDEA the rest of it went to Nazis????(if you believe that then how about some share's in the Brooklyn bridge, ha, ha!)



        • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 4:54 pm

          I too am strapped, no not two guns & a six pack, but financialy – as my funds, in mathematical terms: is approaching zero. I use the library, & their interlibrary services through worldcat.org. I also helped amazon in a project to review some new books. They gave a gift card that I use to buy books I can’t get otherwise. I’ve read 5 books of Dr. Farrell’s. I find him very resourceful in his scholarship and I’am particularily keen to his out-of-the-box cricatal thinking. Although I don’t agree with all of his analysis, I find him more aware than many, many others in print.
          If you don’t listen to Mad Max Keiser in his Max Keiser Reports(3 times a week) & On The Edge(once a week) you should. Also Steve Lenman’s blog & his “Archives Listen” are great.



          • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 4:56 pm

            Steve Lendman’s blog.
            (My typing is waaay back of book.)



          • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 8:19 pm

            Oh! Forgot to mention:
            Once a week on Saturday PM (tonight)
            http://www.tarpley.net
            click on World Crisis Radio/May 5, 2012



          • Robert Barricklow on May 6, 2012 at 4:37 pm

            I just remembered a new book called Wetiko:The Greatest Epidemic Sickness Known To Humanity w/an introduction by Catherine Austin Fitts. It is dedicated to Jack D. Forbes.

            On March 8, 2012 it was on Red Ice Radio !
            http://redicecreations.com/radio/2012/2012/03/RIR-020308.php

            I listened to about 20 minutes of 66:42, but the book is a hell of lot better.



          • Robert Barricklow on May 6, 2012 at 4:46 pm

            The book by Jack Forbes is better by an unfathomable magnitude.
            This Levy is really wrapped-up in his psycho-mumbo-jumbo; so much so, he even believes his own press.



        • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 5:07 pm

          “Archived Shows”
          My “new unconscious” is working overtime.
          Read this one Paul:
          Subliminal: How Your Unconscious Mind Rules Your Behavior by Lenord Mlodinow



          • paul degagne on May 5, 2012 at 6:09 pm

            Robert,

            It’s ok about speeling and tyPo-ing mistakes Robert — we wont slap your hand (even if you use your left hand — they use to in the old days?)

            What is important is the ‘meaning’ and ‘depth” of the content getting across to the reader and not how ‘formally Pretty’ it looks unless your name is Monsieur Proust with his flowery style but then again there is only one of him that good — he himself!

            I have to mention I like the numerated review in Farrell’s books in each chapter —– Numbered reviews repeated to ease understanding and comprehensive is what I call a very kind act by an author. My gripe is in this scientific abstraction language or linquistic way of explaining things that POINDEXTERS USE is not my cup of tea and it makes me ‘suspect’ things. One experiment you can do for your self —read auto-biographes of famous scientists last words. ( you’ll be surprised to find out many of them are written in ‘Plain English? ( I imagine one of the reason for this is that time is almost up for them and they know it’s nonsense to continue playing this ‘LOOK HOW SMART I AM language game?) and they want to be remembered not for how well they peeded and queed but the good they may have contributed to human understanding. Only uptight professor scold student for grammatical errors for the students are hostages to the system put up with or tolerate it! ( we do our homework and learn correct grammatical structure but if some one is ORDERING US then that is not education but something much worst!)

            I’m 110% for the ‘PLAIN ENGLISH MOVEMENT!” ( one cant hide mediocra thoughts using it like they can using what I call the ‘HEADACHE STYLE? Ha, ha!, where we sense certain things but go on because we been robot trained to do things!

            If you have a functioning Brain you have the CAPACITY to understand mostly everything that is written and that’s the truth for SCIENTISTs are ‘goofy” if they think for one moment they are ABOVE common brain capacity. it’s a little game the ‘experts’ play on us using this technical mumbo jumbo because if they used plain english we wouldn’t be as impressed with some of their ideas ( I thought of that kind of thing the common man might say) and henceforth not SHELL OUT THE MILLIONS in gravy train benefits as mentioned. (in the book TOXIC WASTE IS GOOD FOR YOU!)

            Robert — this is slightly related and I am not exact here but I don’t want to go digging in my stack of books for the book but just express an IDEA?

            Physical Anthropologist have measured the brain volume of craniums. So in this developmental or evolutionary thought they will say something like this: Homo Sapiens/Sapeins brains are between 1100 and 1500 CC while homo-the next earlier fellow creatures brain volume goes somewhere in the vacinnity of 700 to 900 CCs. I think the next sic lower level is in the range of 500 to 700.. (don’t qoite me on the exact figures. I don’t have the time to give them and for me they aren’t as important as the point I am trying to make.

            So someone who is HOMO SAPIEN or a LOWER order with a brain capacity at the top of his catagority say 1100 —he HAS THE SAME capacity of HOMO-SAPIEN,SAPIENS as someone at the bottom of our category or US?

            What is wrong with this PICTURE? ( at 1100 there is no difference in the lower category and higher category. SOMETHING IS HAPPENING HERE? The Experts are beginning to SLIP AND SLIDE >>>>THE TIME FRAMES are going back further and further . 50 yrs ago humans only existed what 50 no 30 thousands years ago. Today some are showing proof (I heard lately) PUSHED BACK 750,000.

            I wish the dogmatists would make up their minds and pick a date just for the hell of it (throw darts) and use that as the starting point/stick with it for now and then do further research thing.

            But some of these SCIENTISTs get too much funding and combined with TOO MUCH TIME ON THEIR BRAINS (nothing to discover. Now isn’t that just great and doesn’t speak well of true Creativity. Maybe all this ‘non-productive’ time they have would be better spent studying the ARTS.

            Just then they might get back to their work sites EXCITED AND MOTIVATED with the thought of discovering something?)

            Have a good evening Robert and I will try out your references. Thanks!



          • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 7:03 pm

            First Off.
            It is VERY important, as in your analysis, to capture the “concept”. To this, it generally is achieved by a “step-by-step” procesc. Only this time, when dealing with this CONcept, is is a downward spiral, rather than a stairway to heaven.
            Step 1.
            Human behavior is the product of an endless stream of perceptions, feelings, and thoughts, at both the conscious and unconscious levels. We all hold dear the idea that we’re the captain of our own soul, and we’re in charge, and it’s a very scary feeling when we’re not. In fact, that’s what pychosis is-the feeling of detachment from reality and that you’re not in control, and that is a very frightening feeling for anyone. In the new view, mental processes are thought to be unconscious, because there are portions of the mind that are inaccessible to consciouness[?], due to the architecture of the brain – rather than because they have been subject to motivational forces like repression. It IS rather – a gift of evolution that is crutial to our survival



          • Robert Barricklow on May 6, 2012 at 7:18 pm

            “Subliminal” looses it fizz after chaper 2. Out of the gate great/finishes at the back of the pack.

            Better Off with:

            The Folly of Fools, The Logic of deceit and Self-Deception in Human life by Robert Trivers(2012).
            It is simply Outstanding. A Mossad training manuel.

            Wired For Culture/Origins of the Human Social Mind by Mark Pagel(2012)
            The author does some counterintutive cognitive jujitsu to fill in some major “culture” jigsaw pieces.



          • paul degagne on May 7, 2012 at 4:39 am

            Robert,

            At first I said, ‘Who’s this mad max guy until a little while later I realized I watched several of his news-broadcast in his ‘collection.” (but I found out about him from an earlier mention from somebody in here! Sometimes their are good tips or heads up which are VERY VALUABLE that one will find in here but they must have to learn to SORT OUT THE DODGES? As for myself i am no baseball fan, ha,ha!)

            He’s really fine if you have to watch… —- For myself I end up being wary of broadcasters who can really convince me to like them. (the reason they have power over us is because the level of broadcast news IS so fu$king low that anything better is worth grasping or clinging to! (not really)

            In Zero-Sum Reasoning a move from a negative (-) position of lets say -54 to a negative, lets say — a negative -18 is a positive step of 36 units or a +36.

            Do you think there is something screwy/fishy with this formal logic-picture here?

            Because a -18 STILL SUCKS!!!!!!

            [ Aim for a realllll POSITIVE one hundred and ten % or +110 on the right hand side of that algebraic cross! ( in the zero-sum LESSONING game and what isn’t told to you is that in the pragmatic world you end up at or as a GREAT BIG ZERO and nothing from nothing is still nothing so if some IDEA wants to have SOMETHING or a relationship with me ‘THEY GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING IF THEY WANT TO BE WITH ME” like that negro(what???) song which was very nice and informative?

            But Mad Max is ok if you need that sort of thing.

            But this Forbes guy you recomended (interesting last name) and his other book about Native Americans in Europe pre-1492 time or the THIEF OF HISTORY is something to think about. I like that alternate science’s guy (I forgot his name) that gives a certain ‘reasoning’ to the idea that Atlantis is really two-miles under the Anartic Ice or whatever..

            Now that really GRABS ME!( but I get stretched for time because there is only so much we can take in at once stil —- we EXTEND and STRETCH our Faculties to where we feel like we’re being ‘drawn and quartered” or literary torn-apart like they used to do as punishment in Foucault-land!

            (not really drawn and quartered for I am exaggerating here to make a point — we have only so much memory-storage-capacity even if we can change or alter our short-term memory lets say 3x the average but it is limited and still a BOX?)

            Does this sound Particular, Robert— I like that post of yours?



        • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 7:19 pm

          Step 2.
          It is easy to accept many of our simple behaviors as being automatic. The REAL issue is the extent to which more complex and substansive behavior, with potential to have a much greater impact on our lives, are also automatic – even though we may feel SURE that they are very carefully thought through processes & totally rational.
          This is the new science so far. But, this is where I branch into an out-of-the box scenario.
          They claim no interface(at least known & plausible by imaging technolgies) exists betwen the very DEEP processes & consciousnes/at the very least, in REAL-Time.
          BUT this is NOT the case.
          Although it can run like clockwork, on track, with the “uncertainty priciple” in place, there is an unknown interface that can be accessed.

          Time to go….

          More later…



          • Robert Barricklow on May 5, 2012 at 7:48 pm

            Paul, just wanted to backdrop this with the sides of the humain coin rarely appreciated.
            An unavoidable and perceptual war exists between honor, virtue, & duty/the products of group selection on the one side; and selfishness, cowardice, hypocricy, the products of individual selection/on the other side. This coin of cultures, including especially the content of the creative arts, has risen from the inevitable clash of group selection vs. individual selection. In summary, the human condition is an endemic turmoil rooted in the evolutionary process that created us. The worst in our nature co-exists with the best, & so it will ever be. To scrub it out, if such were possible, would make us less than human.



          • Paul De Gagne on May 7, 2012 at 2:07 pm

            Robert,

            I think I understand the new up-to-date language. I am attracted to certain words like ‘Interface?” If all one spends their time on is using cells phones (lets say average – eighty text messages in an hr on some teen-age girl’s cell phone) what time does she have to grow or mature?

            Or for that matter as Society VANISHIES along with a sense of Community( some say it already has and I am not in disagreement with the intent of that idea) the internet and cyberspace gain in importance (as a means to cope with lack or loneliness) so in a way we all end up ‘BOWLING ALONE” and when we do interact or INTERFACE which each other in the Agora or a market-place are we really? I We could be just looking at CODED —–MEDIATED—– ABSTRACTIONS (like those internet sunglasses(???) instead of the LIFE OF THE HUMAN WE ARE FACE TO FACE WITH? (cybords?)

            Do we become as NOTHING because NOTHING IS LEFT? (Transhumanism — No Thanks, Thank You!

            I scanned those two books you suggested. Forbes still interests me but I don’t have the time to wander off the exixts on this Universals-themed main highway I been on lately. ( I need to get off those ‘one way parallel “rails” and get the details by some other way? )

            I do appreciate your ‘tip’ for it made me realize I need to read Tin Ingold’s book called —Five Key Debates in Anthropology” to clear up a few matters and misconceptions I had from the past and don’t want to carry in to the future?

            I did find this “Among the Truthers Book” that I am going to GOOF ON if I am not too tired (it’s been a long day.)

            Good Evening You ALL!



        • romanmel on May 5, 2012 at 10:08 pm

          Just a note…”Columbus and other Canabals” is available in Kindle format for $8.97 on Amazon. See: http://www.amazon.com/Columbus-Other-Cannibals-Exploitation-ebook/dp/B001OC78WG/ref=sr_1_1_oe_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1336280510&sr=1-1-spell



  10. Mary linderman on May 5, 2012 at 8:57 am

    I must agree with SSnaga ,romanmel and others that we are merely players in a script that has been written for us. You cannot believe your lying eyes about any of this miraculous stuff that is currently going on or that will shortly come to pass. In most of the so called “New age” writings we are told that those who do not believe may be killed or disposed of so they can go on to a higher plain of existance.That is what is going to happen to the real christians. Remember that all of the “Space experiments” done by the Nazis on those poor suffering men and women, were done for the overall “Good” of humanity.History and reality is nothing at all the way we have been taught.
    And when I say “Real” christians I mean folks like the good samaritan who selflessly helped a poor man who could not help himself. Some of the best folks I have encountered did not profess christianity but Almighty God knows who they are and blesses them.Thank God for those that love truth.



    • romanmel on May 5, 2012 at 9:43 pm

      Mary, your insights are invaluable. We are in a period of time of great deception. Your thoughts on “real Christians” are right-on correct. Unfortunately, Christianity has, in many circles, been subject to this deceptive spirit. We shall know them by their fruits.



      • paul degagne on May 6, 2012 at 6:18 am

        I DON’T KNOW if the love and kindness is the result of a (sic) True Christianity. I think it is more like E. Wilson’s concept — The Biophilia Hypothesis? I would like to believe Christians has done so good (in a way they have) but OVERALL — I think in the end if would probably have been better if Christianity Were Never To Have Existed? (we would certain have more people around but then again humans are going to do what they are going to do and any excuse will do— maybe Nature invented Christianity to reduce certain non-ecological species out the door because they were trying to ruin things or even maybe we are Nature Having It’s Own Way Served in the form of Technology —but I DOUBT IT!)

        I still would like to believe as Mary does —- there’s still something decent about Christianity but then again I am not a Native American, especially VINE DELORIA who stated —- CHRISTIANITY HAS FAILED!!!!! (he’s got on HELL OF POINT THERE?)



  11. LadyLaLa on May 5, 2012 at 7:33 am

    Billy Meier is supported by the Hopi Indians.
    What I have read of Billy Meier which pointed to unheard of technology and tactics — years ago — is just coming to light now.

    So on what basis is he a fraud?
    Lady La La



    • Tim on May 5, 2012 at 6:22 pm

      By taking pictures of garbage can lids and calling them spaceships from the Pleiades.



      • Tim on May 5, 2012 at 6:28 pm

        I agree he has put out some interesting ideas and philosophies but for me the bottom line is that his photos are fakes. Some better than others but still fakes.



      • legioXIV on May 6, 2012 at 7:30 pm

        Priceless Tim, priceless.



  12. romanmel on May 5, 2012 at 7:11 am

    Congrats, Dr Farrell on your courageous statement on abductees and the whole area of religion/ET connections. I have encountered many ET “believers” on AboveTopSecret.com over the years, and have found the absolute “religious fundamentalism” behavior of which you speak. It is amazingly like that found amongst traditional fundamentalist sects in Christianity, etc. I am sure you will get some Et “believers” here who will take exception to your statements. I would only ask that they step back and consider the message.



  13. Joan Adamak on May 5, 2012 at 6:40 am

    I loved this video. Years ago I read Adamski, George Hunt Williamson, etc. and I was into New Age stuff then, but they didn’t impress me that much. But I never realized the fascist bit. Perhaps because I was too young, working, raising children and I have never swallowed whole many of the so-called channelings, etc. I think I’ll do a little looking into it myself and I think I still have some of those books and can read them with a much more experienced eye now. Thank you for our wisdom.



  14. SSNaga on May 5, 2012 at 6:35 am

    The “white supremacists, fascists &c” contactee focus is not singular to the hue-man species; the Aboriginals & Algonquin peoples (by example) had their “ancestors,” which went “way back” to their “first days.” These were met & known in dreaming/mystical states (study it). … It’s merely the old dressed in new (age) lingo. … Much of it was (purportedly) spawned by Frederick Oliver’s 1894 book, “A Dweller on Two Planets,” which popularized the “Mt. Shasta” mythos. … Indulgence in abject ignorance is a “natural” compulsion. Bypass it. You are “in” a HyperCube Construct; nothing is as it “appears” on the Screen of Illusions. Order is accompanied by Chaos, hand to hand.



  15. Thomas Marz on May 5, 2012 at 5:22 am

    If they’re so evil and are behind messages of revelations and instructions to humanity….who were they contacted by and why did they believe it?



    • SSNaga on May 5, 2012 at 5:43 am

      Misapprehension of the plodding intellect should not be given credence. That which one thinks it sees is not that which is hidden in the Trinity. The plane of equilibrium eXtends two arms (of inequilibrium), that the larvae may grow its two wings, earned from the Lessons Learned. “Know Thy Self – Thy Enemy.” In balance, your greatest enemy will become your greatest friend. ‘Tis a Mystery…



    • romanmel on May 5, 2012 at 6:53 am

      Thomas, if you are sincere in your question, I would suggest you read “FINAL EVENTS and the Secret Government Group on Demonic UFOs and the Afterlife” by Nick Redfern. It answered the very same questions you put forth for me. http://www.amazon.com/EVENTS-Secret-Government-Demonic-Afterlife/dp/1933665483/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1336225729&sr=1-1#_



      • Thomas Marz on May 5, 2012 at 5:44 pm

        Thank you kindly for the book reference.



        • romanmel on May 5, 2012 at 9:25 pm

          Thomas, you are very welcome. I wasn’t trying to avoid answering your inquiry. The answer is so involved and in need of documentation, it would require a book to relate it. Mr Redfern is a highly regarded researcher and I think your questions will be delt with completely. All the best…



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