DEUTSCHEBANK AND THOSE 9/11 PUT OPTIONS ON UNITED AIRLINES

Many of you will be aware that I have long questioned not only the official version of 9/11, a story with more imponderables than the Warren Report, but also the "official alternative" view of the 9/11 truth movement. According to that view, the "reigning alternative" view, at the deepest level of the plot, some rogue element within the US government is usually cited as implicated in the plot, either in its planning or execution, or by allowing a plot others had hatched to go forward as a means of pursuing geopolitical goals in the Middle East and central Asia. For the 9/11 truthers, the deeper level is revealed by signatures of controlled demolitions in the twin towers, or, in some versions, by the deployment of "nanothermite."

I have not subscribed completely to this view, as there are some classes of evidence that, to my mind, are simply not adequately explained by any controlled demolition hypothesis, namely, what Dr. Judy Wood has referred to as "the toasted cars," the "Dustification" of the towers, and "the jumpers," i.e., the people seemingly hurling themselves out of the towers to their deaths. While I have a number of problems as well with aspects of Dr. Wood's presentation and some massive questions concerning her book, I do think that the case for directed energy weaponry in the case of the Twin towers has not been adequately examined. Indeed, when 9/11 occurred, I was - as I was as a child when President Kennedy was murdered - home, and watched it happened. My immediate reaction then was that the collapse of the towers was just not right, and was not the signature of an ordinary controlled demolition. That was, and remains, my opinion.

The possibility, then, of the use of such an extraordinary technology has thus always implied for me the existence of a third layer to the plot, one unknown to the other two(whatever those other two were). And that third layer always for me seemed to be possibly linked to one of the three countries whose intelligence services attempted to warn the USA of something dire about to transpire. Such intelligence warnings indicate, that at least at some level, these nations had knowledge of some sort of the plot. Those nations whose services warned the USA of immanent danger were Russia, Israel, and Germany.

At the visceral level, I have a great deal of difficulty believing that any of these three countries or their militaries or intelligence services would be involved in such a plot, so for me this always left the possibility that one was faced with a truly rogue group, with some powerful penetration into the intelligence networks of those countries, and with some powerful toys and, by implication, very deep pockets, an entity that might not even be a nation-state in the conventional sense at all.

Now, interestingly enough, there is this report from Mike Ruppert:

9/11 Attacks: Criminal Foreknowledge and Insider Trading lead directly to the CIA's Highest Ranks

What interests me here is not so much the CIA allegations - these after all have become somewhat commonplace and predictable -  but rather this one little sentence that hangs in mid-air, as it were, in an article otherwise devoted to rehashing the usual stories - true and necessary stories to rehash, to be sure - about the Dulles Brothers, Wall Street, and Sullivan and Cromwell. The sentence is this:

On September 29, 2001 - in a vital story that has gone unnoticed by the major media - the San Francisco Chronicle reported, "Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11, terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades and market data.

"The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors - whose identities and nationalities have not been made public - had advance knowledge of the strikes." They don't dare show up now. The suspension of trading for four days after the attacks made it impossible to cash-out quickly and claim the prize before investigators started looking.

"... October series options for UAL Corp. were purchased in highly unusual volumes three trading days before the terrorist attacks for a total outlay of $2,070; investors bought the option contracts, each representing 100 shares, for 90 cents each. [This represents 230,000 shares]. Those options are now selling at more than $12 each. There are still 2,313 so-called "put" options outstanding [valued at $2.77 million and representing 231,300 shares] according to the Options Clearinghouse Corp."

"...The source familiar with the United trades identified Deutsche Bank Alex. Brown, the American investment banking arm of German giant Deutsche Bank, as the investment bank used to purchase at least some of these options..."

As reported in other news stories, Deutsche Bank was also the hub of insider trading activity connected to Munich Re. just before the  (Emphasis added)

This weird relationship and involvement of Deutschebank has, to my mind, never been adequately explained, and it is a perplexing one, for in the mad dash to assign ultimate blame to "neo-conservatives" or "the plan for the new American century" or "rogue elements in the CIA", we are forgetting the possibility that there may be yet another layer to the whole scenario, and yet another player on the block.

It is to my mind highly suggestive that in the wake of the 9/11 tragedy, that Germany has once again stepped up its efforts to repatriate its gold from the US New York Federal Reserve Bank, that the financial games being played in Europe with the economies of whole countries are, to my mind, for the sole geopolitical purpose of tying Germany to the debtor nations of Europe in order to keep Germany in the EU...

...and there's that disturbing Deutschebank connection in deep history, via Dr. Hermann Josef Abs, to the likes of Hitler, Bormann, Prince Bernhard... yea, I went there. But I did so because 9/11 continues to have a foul odor to it, and I don't mean just the odor of radical Islamicists, or rogue American neo-conservatives either... It continues to have, for me, the odor of the first shots in a "covert civil war" within the New World Order crowd.

See you on the flip side.


Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

82 Comments

  1. Sylvia Williams on September 5, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    Hi Joseph,
    Re: Your article on 9-11 and the CIA. I came across these articles by
    E. P. Heidner several years ago and am providing you the link in the
    even that they would be of interest to you. Mr. Heidner provides alot
    of documentation at the end of his articlles, for that which he sets forth.
    These articles are on a number of websites, but the ones below from
    Israel Shamir’s website are the easiest to read online. (Quite a bit
    of paper and expense if you print each out )

    http://www.israelshamir.net/Contributors/Collateral_Damage_911.pdf

    http://www.israelshamir.net/Contributors/Collateral_Damage_Part_II_26122008.pdf

    If they are difficult to copy and paste in the header, you can find them by
    doing a search for E. P. Heidner — and/or:

    Collateral Damage – U.S. Covert Operations and 9-11

    Collateral Damage (Part 2) The Subprimed Crisis and Terrorist Attacks on
    September 11, 2001

    P. S. I really .love to listen the interviews of you ! You are terrific !
    Thank you !

    Sylvia Williams



  2. Jedi on August 30, 2012 at 7:43 am

    qui bono?

    …relax these events are much too complicated to see the greater good for the deserving crowd.



  3. paul de gagne on August 30, 2012 at 6:31 am

    I remember reading that part of Ruppert’s book about Unclaimed or no one dared to collect the Profits. That was some years ago! It’s good to see some theories or specifics tied to that ‘affair?”

    Frozen shit rises to the surface after the ice (time) begins to melt. Look at what happened to the Eastern Block when Russia Colapsed. All the ethic wars and violence were unleashed without the Iron Hand around.

    My first impression upon reading Farrel’s above article is back to square one or Babylon’s Bankers at their tricks again?

    I like reading about posible splits or sic DIVISIONS’ from the above or the Elites. Where there is the slightist separation there is weaknesses so maybe all is not lost. Then again, MAYBE these banksters and their kin (not necessarily blood-kin) are pawns in higher schemes? (on the second thought more WARS could be coming? Lets hope not?)

    Anyway —further comment from me would elicit dreams of writing ‘try wring fiction” or Mystery novels?”

    I like David Icke’s show he puts on for when I think he’s just speaking METAPHORICALLY it really grabs me! But he spoils it all by stating “just the facts Mamm!”

    Anyway, Imagination will get to the specifics if nothing else will?



    • HAL838 on August 30, 2012 at 8:23 am

      It is the job [the real job!] of the CIA to see that no one gets along



  4. Liam on August 30, 2012 at 5:06 am

    A convincing alternative, not widely discussed, to the Judy Wood theory is presented by a Russian nuclear expert. That being a controlled/small nuke planted in the bedrock “basin”, either alone or in combination with other elements. That would explains the extreme heat that took months to cool the bedrock, vaporization of the buildings, etc.. Here is the link to his explanation on how this is entirely possible, and how it was actually known to them in advance as the means that would take down the towers someday:

    http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1931

    Love always, Liam.



    • HAL838 on August 30, 2012 at 8:28 am

      hhmm?
      They would then have not “pancaked” down, but blown apart
      from the nuke site.
      The Russian ‘scientist’ must have smiling when he said that,
      or testing to see just how brainwashed the ‘Americans” have become



      • Liam on August 30, 2012 at 11:45 am

        You obviously haven’t listened to the interview. Why don’t you do that before commenting. An obvious observation of the “pancaking” theory you adhere to is a mischaracterization of the actual collapse. The towers more accurately “effervessed” outwardly into dust from the insides, Take a warm bottle of soda pop, shake it well, then open it. That will give you an idea of both how energy can be directed and effervessence. There really was no “pancaking” since the floors were reduced to dust and the top just fell into the dust. Your pancaking premise means there would have been resistance floor by floor, which did NOT occur, therefore, the free-fall speed/pure gravity.



        • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 4:03 am

          It actually collapsed from the top down
          [the base had weakened] and
          the lobby was already blown out from some
          preliminary explosions…
          I could hear them in a video and there were
          fire crews in that lobby [shambles and all],
          which would not have been
          possible with a ‘nuke.’

          Unlike the rats and the Pied Piper as so many have
          become believing others (the experts !?!)
          rather than their own eyes,
          I’ll take my own eyes and ears, thank you.

          The video was originally supposed to be
          about, and following, the actions of a proby fireman
          and I still have it.

          I also saw it in real time as the cement was pulverized
          [yes] and blown out as each floor exploded.
          The PANCAKE DESCRIPTION [not “theory”]
          is apropriate.

          [Hard to type when words keep ‘going away’]



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 4:06 am

            It happened quickly [yes, within seconds]
            but from the top down.



  5. Abbi on August 30, 2012 at 1:23 am

    I do believe you are right. Mousollini, (Vatican), Hitler (Vatican), Tesla, Bush, CIA, Bush. A Nazi Pope. I no longer call them the New World Order, or even the Illuminati. They are Fascist Nazis. They are aiming to establish the Nazi world order, every revolution and dictatorship has their mark all over it. And I think you can include Blackwater, Monsanto, CFR, Amnesty International, IMF, World bank in all that.

    As for the Gold, it is most probably in the vaults of the Vatican.



  6. DaphneO on August 30, 2012 at 12:50 am

    Thanks again for your reply.
    Chuck Baldwin goes with the thermite theory and is intent on damning Judy.
    So I’m not learning a lot from him.
    I will listen to the end though, just so I get his point correctly.
    I’m thinking the members section is one you pay for, and I have been considering that as I love your work.



    • Joseph P. Farrell on August 30, 2012 at 1:26 am

      The interpretation of who and what the scenario is changes completely if one allows the DEW hypothesis… as in ALL such interpretations, it is important for TPTB to get THEIR versions of things out there…to assign their point men to “own” a particular slant on a particular way of interpreting the evidence. That said, there are evidences for each view… there is a great deal of material in the members’ area.



  7. Jon Norris on August 29, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    I also keep thinking about the WW2 Nazi atom bomb damage map we found after the war, showing a nuclear strike on almost the same spot in New York as the Towers.

    Ever since I saw that map, the idea has floated around in the back on my mind that there was a connection – partly a revenge thing?

    People talked about the Towers being targeted because they were such a universal icon of America. I never even knew about them until they were hit – some icon.

    I think they were hit to demonstrate the power of that weapon, and for more esoteric reasons. This was not a simple event.



  8. Robert Barricklow on August 29, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Jim Fetzer’s latest Podcast is with
    Chuck Boldwyn/The Twin Towers Did not Collapse
    Monday Aug 20, 2012
    http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/

    The first opening comments, by Fetzer,
    rips into Dr. Judy Wood.
    The rest gets into the collapse of the Twin Towers.



  9. Kai on August 29, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    ask Dr Judy Wood about micro/mini nukes and see how she shrieks…

    smoke comes from there…

    I liked her, until she RAN AWAY from micro/mini nukes…

    read a credible thesis based on chain reaction series starting from highest floor, one by one down, directional (vertical), and explains the radiation readings along with the strange behavior of occupants exposed to local high radiation doses..

    i liked Dr Judy wood…best stuff, until I realized you take the nuke sub powerplant, scale it down a little further even, then push GO!

    Fireworks…commence!



    • Joseph P. Farrell on August 30, 2012 at 12:07 am

      One wonders how mininukes explains toasted cars?



      • DaphneO on August 30, 2012 at 1:48 am

        That’s where I go when I try to explain to anybody. Toasted cars a BLOCK away?



        • HAL838 on August 30, 2012 at 8:38 am

          “ite is right, but ate is great”
          Chemistry 101

          Therm means heat because the explosive gives off lots of it.

          I know that, for the most part, I’m just a crazy idiot here,
          but life is full of little ‘idio’synchrosies.



          • Liam on August 31, 2012 at 5:52 am

            And then there’s Hurricane Erin that was on the way. Let’s get Mr. Hutchinson in on this.



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 6:58 am

            Conformity, Liam, conformity,
            at all costs………………….
            to the end(s) of the earth…….



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 7:18 am

            [someone’s testosterone is in a tither]



          • HAL838 on September 1, 2012 at 7:22 pm

            Not a one of you has done a terrific job so far.
            BUT
            as you will



    • DaphneO on August 30, 2012 at 1:56 am

      Can you please give me a link to where she runs away from mini nukes?



      • Joseph P. Farrell on August 30, 2012 at 1:58 am

        No I cannot…I do not follow her, or anyone else’s, research and 9/11 goings-on on a daily basis… and I am much too busy to do so. Try doing some searchers on google.



        • DaphneO on August 30, 2012 at 2:45 am

          Sorry. I meant to address Kai.



      • HAL838 on August 30, 2012 at 4:41 am

        “mini nukes”
        are called that because they fit in a suitcase,
        not because they minimize the most
        damage to a couple of buildings so precisely.

        I don’t know what gives anyone that idea—
        it is preposterous—think—it is also possible
        for some of the electronics that was destroyed,
        to have given off some minor or residual radiation
        [your TV does that whenever its on, but the newer ones,
        not so much],
        although that would seem to be part of the lie.



        • Robert Barriclow on August 31, 2012 at 1:13 pm

          They much much smaller.
          And also different in “effects”
          (besides the obvious quantitative ones).

          Not sure, because the source is not in the usual suspects’ line-up, or some other approach, or a “combo plasma platter”, or…?



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 2:19 pm

            Yes, but an explosion is an explosion…
            and there were plenty of them.

            In fact, the thermate “paint” sounds like a good bet.
            I’m sure that activation triggers would not have
            been a problem.

            Why did 7 take so long?
            One of my books says there was a problem with that trigger.
            Silverstein’s comment [me here] was likely to
            explain away
            the delay…………..



          • Robert Barriclow on August 31, 2012 at 2:52 pm

            There was some form of an exotic energy “particle/beam” that did the twins.

            Funny on building 7, as the reporter was telling about it going down, way before it went down.

            Maybe, they were screaming an In Your Face,
            “Na na na nananana!”.



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 4:22 pm

            I know that, robert, but the particle beam doesn’t ‘track.’
            Totally unnecessary as they tried their exotic weapons
            during the first Gulf War.
            In fact, that was the reason for the first Gulf War,
            their bios and some chem, too.

            Who are you FOLLOWING on this particle beam crap?
            Sure, they have something you could call that,
            but they did NOT use it on the towers.

            Try again

            uh
            half an hour before 7 went down
            and
            THEY have been in my face for 1/2 my life………..
            didn’t like my interference in their war and assasination plans.

            You are backing the wrong ‘horse,’
            but I am dutifully defending your right to do so !



          • Robert Barricklow on August 31, 2012 at 6:39 pm

            Actually no one.
            I just put a handle, “paricle beam”, on it.
            I originally thought HARP w/ some Nazi advanced WW11 physics(evolved from a Nazi International faction).

            Of course, I don’t know, except the “others” don’t fit.



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 7:20 pm

            I do believe my own eyes and ears
            from an unretouched video
            over what I hear from you and other
            mouthpiece echos……………..
            why all the preliminary explosions and
            the cement dust blowing OUT from various
            floors just before the collapse?
            If the explosive thermate was in the paint,
            it ‘paints’ a nice ‘picture’ of how close it
            was to that cement………….

            Careful, your totbots are getting agitated.

            Try putting your earpiece in the other ear
            for a better answer.



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 7:28 pm

            And if you don’t know what a “particle beam”
            is or how it would work to destroy………….
            what [how] in the world does it fit………..?

            I have previously relied on you for some sensible
            posts……….
            what happened?



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 7:33 pm

            Your “energy” weapon does come in as a frequency trigger,
            Does THAT make you happy?



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 7:57 pm

            Therm-ate in the paint would also explain the still-burning rubble,
            as well as the jumpers.

            The physicists (Jones {?})
            might know what they
            are talking about………….



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 8:07 pm

            A “particle beam” is actually a good description of
            the creation of the asteroid belt and the Oort cloud
            comets by an opposing resonance to break up a
            fifth planet unleashing heat by sudden movement only.



          • Robert Barricklow on September 1, 2012 at 9:08 am

            If I didn’t know better this had the signature of a nanoweapon:

            Engines of Creation turned into
            Engines of Destruction.



          • HAL838 on September 1, 2012 at 9:53 am

            You DON’T know any better, so stop running around the block
            only making yourself dizzy.

            Nanites were NEVER intended and have never been,
            “Engines of Creation!”



          • Robert Barricklow on September 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm

            Methinks he doth protest too much.



          • HAL838 on September 1, 2012 at 3:12 pm

            Me thinks SHE doth try to enlighten you………
            ‘illumination’ is just too dim



          • Robert Barricklow on September 1, 2012 at 5:50 pm

            Let There Be Light!



          • Robert Barricklow on September 1, 2012 at 5:51 pm

            Creation
            …not Destruction



          • HAL838 on September 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm

            The [nanites] totbots?
            They were created for destruction.
            I told you that.



          • Robert Barricklow on September 1, 2012 at 6:53 pm

            Is resistance futile?



          • DaphneO on September 1, 2012 at 7:01 pm

            HAL838, could you please stop imparting your amazing information and leave us to think for ourselves?



          • HAL838 on September 4, 2012 at 11:40 am

            O!



  10. LSM on August 29, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    “While I have a number of problems as well with aspects of Dr. Wood’s presentation and some massive questions concerning her book…”

    if you at some point in the future could elaborate on this I think it would interest us all greatly-

    and speaking of “cashing in”: just read in today’s “Die Welt” that Merkel and a whole entourage of German officials are about to embark on a trip to China- bet it won’t be a slow boat that takes them there- wonder if discussing “cash” in some respect has anything to do with their visit



  11. Jay on August 29, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    In a past year I was given to understand, by a native reader/speaker of Mandarin, that the Chinese Army newspaper celebrated the fall of the towers the next day. I assume it was simply along the lines of “a strike against capitalism”.

    Re debts in Europe: many German banks profited mightily from real estate bubbles in Spain, Greece and Ireland, those German banks need to forgo attempting collection on a mess in part caused by them; the same is true of hedge funds based in the UK and the US. Pretending that Germany doesn’t have substantial responsibility for the current financial mess in Europe is repeating a lie.



  12. Ken Lemon on August 29, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    I have read Dr. Judy Wood’ book and I’m convinced that she is definately on the right track, why, well if any of you have the 9/11 documentary “In Plane Site”, I suggest you fast forward to exactly 30 minutes and 30 seconds and observe what is going on.

    The shot is of the two towers burning and smoking, as the camera pans out, the building skyline comes into view on the left of the screen

    It shows “another building” that is smoking/burning on only one side. Also take note of the approxamate time of this shot. The commentator notes that this piece of film was seen “ONCE” and “ONCE” only on the morning of 9/11.

    Somebody on this planet has a weapon of unspeakable power, and they used it on 9/11.



    • LSM on August 29, 2012 at 2:53 pm

      “I have read Dr. Judy Wood’ book and I’m convinced that she is definately on the right track”- “Somebody on this planet has a weapon of unspeakable power”- I agree totally-

      it’s the most loaded, baffling, frightening “who dunnit?” in modern human history-

      thanks for the tip “In Plane Sight”- will check that out-

      Larry



    • HAL838 on August 29, 2012 at 3:49 pm

      It has been around since Tesla [accidently ]
      burned up part of the Tungusta Forest in Siberia.

      oops



  13. HAL838 on August 29, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Your front page format has changed from left to right (?)
    At the very least, on MY computer…………

    The CIA ass-sas-i-nation group has always had a
    very large “rogue” element serving the world elite.
    “Intelligence ” (?) is their cover for the evil they actually do.



    • HAL838 on August 29, 2012 at 1:43 pm

      You know….maybe you don’t………..
      that just like Isaac and Ismael,
      germans and jews are cut from
      the same bolt of cloth.



      • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 8:13 pm

        Jones is a corruption of Cohn or Cohen and
        Smith is a corruption of Scmidt



  14. Robert Barricklow on August 29, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Hostis Humani Generis* is The New World Order.
    *Enemies of All Humanity

    However, the power to make that definition stick and bring them to jutice, is just that:
    a matter of power.

    To do so, is in the peoples’ own interest.



  15. Hal Hichler on August 29, 2012 at 9:21 am

    Just playing devil’s advocate but isn’t it possible one of those numerous people who were warned of the 9-11 attacks before they happened such as the Odigo employees,
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/9-11_warnings_odigo.html

    California politician Willie Brown

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/911/warned.htm

    and numerous others as mentioned in the article above placed the trades after being tipped off on the actual hijacking plan? Or maybe even Deutsch Bank employees were tipped off? It seems quite a few people were aware of the impending attacks. How about Larry Silverstein or one of his children? They skipped their usual breakfast routine that morning which took place at the top of the towers? I could easily see him or one of his ilk placing a sneaky trade with Deutsch Bank because they were ordered by their bosses not to try and profit off the attack and therefore went outside of their usual Rothschild owned investment banks? Then of course, there is always the possibility, like the JFK assassination, that the true conspirators just spread a lot of false clues around to hide their tracks. The failure to collect on the trade makes me think they were amateurs and not conspirators. My favorite 9-11 plot is the Long island man who worked in the Towers and as the buildings were collapsing he immediately emptied his bank account at the nearest ATM and then disappeared leaving his wife to think he died. Now that is a hell of a way to get out of a marriage.



    • Hal Hichler on August 29, 2012 at 9:24 am

      Joseph, your attempts to exonerate the Russians, Germans, and Israelis really leads me to suspect that the rumors about you being a conspirator yourself are true. I have heard many rumors, one being that you were the love child of a Russian KGB agent stationed in Germany named Vladimir Putin and a young student of quantum chemistry named Angela Merkel. I have also heard you were born in the same underground laboratory as Barack Obamma but you were a Frankenstein monster and far exceeded your test tube breeding limitations to just read a teleprompter. That is why you have to wear a hat so as to hide the scars behind your ears that are so prominent on your test tube brother Barack Obamma. I have even heard you are the rebellious son of the notorious Yahwehist zionist Rebbe Menachem Shneerson who also claims he is the messiah and that you studied patristics solely to uncover wether or not you too were Divine– being the son of the Messiah. My favorite theory is proposed by Benjamin Fullford who claims Dr. Farrell is really a Chines Communist named Chu Fat (code named ROUND EYES) who has permanently damaged his sinuses from all the plastic surgery.



      • HAL838 on August 29, 2012 at 1:56 pm

        I think Dr Farrel gets shy about a receding hairline….?
        If so, wearing a hat is the worst thing he could do….
        unless it’s just for the videos……….

        but it is HIS call to make………….
        his ‘choice’ and I won’t quibble with THAT………
        quite the opposite………

        fighting for the total preservation of free will …here…



      • LSM on August 29, 2012 at 3:16 pm

        “My favorite theory is proposed by Benjamin Fullford who claims Dr. Farrell is really a Chines Communist named Chu Fat…”- LOL!!!

        am very tired after a long, with many delays plane trip (so I’m rather punchy at the moment) but that comment just made my day 🙂

        one has to have a sense of humor in life in order to survive it-

        Larry



      • paul de gagne on September 4, 2012 at 7:38 am

        This rumor mongeling about Joseph Farrell is a laugh-riot! Who makes up this stuff?

        I think Hal838 is on the money. Bald is not “IN’ with the younger crowd and all they want to believe in is ‘what you see is what you get – appearances or signs if you want to get technical! (When your suspicious of everything you get the same results “as if” you were suspicious of nothing?)



        • HAL838 on September 4, 2012 at 10:02 am

          Daphne0 was allowed to throw me off the board/blog

          Ever compliant with sincere wishes,
          Constance Marie Boisvert

          [communications have started to go down from a severe
          geo em storm….more coming……….oops…………
          I guess Daphne doesn’t like my info…………
          strange how he/she/it was so anxious to get rid of me
          ………..and then disappeared]



          • HAL838 on September 5, 2012 at 1:43 am

            Good Heavens, Joseph,
            what if I’ve been telling the truth all along !?!

            And nevermind Waldo; where’s daffy,
            under “duck & cover?”
            [now there’s a fable]



          • DaphneO on September 5, 2012 at 4:57 pm

            Hal, I did not throw you off the board. I just got frustrated that you didn’t seem to allow for other thinkers to have value. I’m sincerely sorry that you thought I had that power.



          • DaphneO on September 5, 2012 at 5:52 pm

            One more thing. I actually went off this site and started browsing, trying to find where Dr Farrell spoke more on Dr Wood’s work. Also, I should have worded my request differently. I do apologise for that.



          • HAL838 on September 5, 2012 at 6:38 pm

            You don’t have that …power…..
            obviously, I gave it to you,
            at least for a few days.

            How else could you word it (?)
            You could not have been more polite and said the same thing !
            There is only one problem….

            How do I, or my posts, stop you [or anyonr else]
            from thinking [for yourself or anyone else]?

            [THAT, also obviously, does not happen
            since almost everyone ignores me.]

            “I” don’t have THAT ‘power’ and “I” don’t want it !
            Do you?

            Before so politely asking me to leave, however,
            you should at least have read more of my posts,
            as I have made it perfectly clear that I am fighting for
            free will, certainly not so that I can tell you how to think !

            I make a lot of corrections, yes?
            Because I know what is happening and why
            and the general outcome and why.

            How (?)
            is not one of the writing 5 Ws,
            but the answer will be forthcoming.
            Although not on this blog, you won’t miss it.

            I am not being arrogant…
            strangely enough, quite the reverse…….
            and I do KNOW these things………..
            “What good is knowing without sharing?”
            (character quote)

            I also somehow,
            don’t believe that I keep YOU and YOU alone,
            from your own free thinking [for yourself] !

            I cannot accept your ‘apology,’ however, as there is nothing
            to apologize for…………….
            again obviously, you were simply being yourself,
            a [obvious] free thinker !



    • Robert Barricklow on August 29, 2012 at 12:17 pm

      I enjoyed the writers of the new Casino Royal with the new James Bond, when, through character dialogue, they mentioned “the puts” on 9/11; netting millions for those, knowing ahead of time, where this was all going.



    • HAL838 on August 29, 2012 at 1:47 pm

      If he used an ATM,
      he must not have had a very big bank account



  16. Robert Barricklow on August 29, 2012 at 9:16 am

    I agree.

    -My take
    This means that the layered deceptions are HIGHLY Organized. This means a long history of such organization & experience in such operations. It means a baton being passed through centuries upon centuries. It is & has been engineered into the infrastructure/skeleton since civilization’s beginnings’.

    I could go on & on.
    But to cut beyond the chase:
    Has this been “seeded”(in some fashion/manner) by the ancient ones, with an eneviable/fated outcome?



    • HAL838 on August 29, 2012 at 2:01 pm

      Gee, Robert, where did you get that idea?

      Only centuries…………….
      six THOUSAND years or more !
      …back to the creation of the original ‘totbots’
      [nanites]



      • Robert Barricklow on August 29, 2012 at 9:13 pm

        In reality, it maybe timeless.



        • HAL838 on August 29, 2012 at 11:31 pm

          “timeless?”
          “reality?”
          Can you define?

          There IS such a thing as ‘timelessness.’
          Otherwise known as “infinity”

          Does “timeless” mean ‘eternal?’
          They are two different things.

          And reality can be unreal if it hasn’t been actualized,
          which is a quantum wave function collapse



          • Robert Barricklow on August 30, 2012 at 12:45 pm

            Making something out of nothing.



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 4:15 am

            “Making something out of nothing.”

            Yes, yes, I love it !



          • Liam on August 31, 2012 at 5:42 am

            You still, obviously, have not listened to the interview and perfer to keep a closed mind. Sad, that is what keeps us from solving a lot of problems in this world.



          • HAL838 on August 31, 2012 at 6:53 am

            So I can start wondering about everything I see and hear?

            To be a follower of everyone else and fall for
            everything else?
            Where do you think I’ve been for the last elevin years?
            In a cave perhaps?

            I replied to others and not to the main blog………….
            What is / why the sudden interest in me?

            [A [good] lawyer never asks questions without the answers
            ahead of time….no, I’m not, but sometimes it’s a good idea.]



    • HAL838 on August 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm

      Did you mean ‘inevitable.’

      That takes away free will.
      No reality would or can become actualized to that…………
      [not in my world…..what’s that, eh (?) ]



      • HAL838 on August 29, 2012 at 11:40 pm

        I suppose the next question [CIA is still around deleting]
        would be,
        so why do I fight for it…………
        now the answer to THAT might be inevitable



  17. Thomas Marz on August 29, 2012 at 5:25 am

    Excellent Simply Excellent!

    Dr. Farrell, can you ask some of those massive questions in regards to Dr. Wood’s work?



    • DaphneO on August 30, 2012 at 12:00 am

      I too would dearly love to hear what you have to say about Dr Judy Wood’s massive questions. I have the book and have looked at several videos.

      To my mind she given us more truth than anyone else.

      This is important to me, and I’d dearly love to hear your comments.



      • Joseph P. Farrell on August 30, 2012 at 12:03 am

        Most of these questions do not concern the CASe…but the CONTEXT….



        • DaphneO on August 30, 2012 at 12:29 am

          Thanks so much for responding. Can I now ask what you mean by the CONTEXT? As in who did it?

          Sorry to be a pain, but this is important to me. When I studied her work I honestly felt that this was the truth… and I think to a point you agree here to a point.

          I’m listening to Chuck Baldwin (link above) who is now saying that there were mini nukes… Which doesn’t account for the toasted cars etc.



          • Joseph P. Farrell on August 30, 2012 at 12:39 am

            I cannot comment publicly though I did raise some questions in a members’ area paper. Briefly, when I say context, I mean precisely that…the stuff hovering around in the background… Who? Who are the associates? What are their connections? Does their story make sense? Additionally, there are problems with the case… I agree with the basic premise(after all I came to my own similar conclusion almost immediately when the buildings came down, but simply didn’t have time to research it). Did I entertain the possibility of a demolition? Sure… do I still? Sure. But on that day and to this day I still have doubts and now even more so than then. Do I agree with everything she presents? No I do not.



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