TRANSHUMANISM: OF CHIPS, SOULS, AND VIRTUAL IMMORTALITY
I have been talking a great deal the past few days about the emerging technologies of transhumanism, and I have proposed an essentially three-phased stepped process that, to my mind, appears to be transpiring:
- Remote control;
- Emulational technologies, i.e., the downloading of an individual organism's entire memory onto a chip; and finally,
- Anamnetic technologies, i.e., development and employment of the technologies of number 2, to identify and contact "higher consciousnesses" from "other realms" or "higher dimensions."
In the course of these articles, I have talked about the "soul-catcher" chip, chips that literally record and download an individuals entire memory and life. Here is one story about this technology:
RFID Chips And Soul Catcher 2025 May 2012 06
Such technologies only raise once again the difference between emulation and anamnesis, as I am employing the terms here for the sake of philosophical speculation. Does a chip that records sensory input really capture the soul, or does it merely record the effects of it? the signatures?
I would argue the latter, which leads to the anamnetic possibility, for effects or signatures are a kind of resonance signature, so, would reproducing such signatures create a kind of resonance effect, transducing that particular soul once again?
Whatever the answer to that question may be, there is of course at least an analogous practice or technique within the history of religion: certainly some aspects of sympathetic magic can be viewed as an attempt, literally, to conjure a presence by a process of anamnesis or a remembering of as many things as possible, similarly, the anamnesis forms a major component of the Christian liturgy of the mass in the Roman, Anglican, and Eastern Orthodox traditions, and as well in many Protestant traditions.
The mere existence of such practices within human history and experience, however, suggests to me that someone, somewhere, if they already haven't, will inevitably see the possibility lurking in such emulational technologies as a "soul catcher" chip, and indeed some transhumanists already see in the development if such technologies a kind of "virtual immortality," but some will see in them the anamnetic possibility, and no doubt, attempt secretly to develop it, or, if I may be permitted the expression, to invoke it.
See you on the flip side.
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Terminally Skeptical, I can’t find anything about music on MIchael Tsarion’s site just now. It used to be in his” blogs” section. Because you may find that interesting, here’s the link:
http://michaeltsarion.com/mtsarforum/viewforum.php?f=2
I must go there again (haven’t been to his site in ages) as his blog also includes “must see” movies, the rapture, magick, and other interesting topics.
I actually had an email conversation with him about music and he turned me on to Ironmaiden, Nightwish and a few others. I was not a metal fan before then and that is definitely not the only music I like. But they were saying interesting stuff.
He’s a pretty interesting guy.
Just realised that under “Rapture” (the forum) there’s a lot of metal music – Kreator came up on the first page.
http://michaeltsarion.com/mtsarforum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23&sid=845865f27f424920e356e60df57413a1
DaphneO,
If you are going to go down this heavy metal road and I would advise not making a habit of it as you a really just worshipping at the altar of Lucifer and the lower forces of Venus with its bright lights, loud noise, and showmanship, with that said, and you desire an outlet for our cultural driven angst and anger, may I suggest the German metal band Rammstein:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8slCFRlZa4
Leni Riefenstahl would be proud. Our media handlers here in the US hate this Germanic culture bomb and do everything in their power to limit them from coming to the US. Enjoy.
Frankie, I don’t play much metal. And I’m not into “heavy” metal, mainly because I can’t understand the words.
However, have you hard Iron Maiden sing “Rime of the Ancient Mariner”? Goes for over 13 minutes and it’s amazing. Great to watch too. That was a Coleridge poem.
Dr Farrell may not like this, but he said that Bach played as it should be played was like today’s heavy metal. I think I understood a little. But I can’t enjoy HM just for the sound. There have to be words that mean something as well.
I’m all grown up and have a very wide taste in music, from classical, opera to alt country, with a bit of metal thrown in… You don’t have to worry!!!
Also, I don’t believe Tsarion thought it was all the devil’s music, for what that’s worth.
Now Lady GaGa and her ilk fit that bill very well…
DaphneO,
Sorry. I guess I stated that unclearly. Not the devil’s music, but the whole package of rock and roll can suck you into low grade sensory pleasures and hedonism and get one hooked on appearances and glamor. It is a negative occult abuse by the elites of the forces of nature to trap the rest of us into our lower selves. In this case the abused force of nature is the energy from the planet Venus. As the rag tag remnants of Atlantis, these sorcerers we call the elites are old pros at manipulating Venusian astral forces for the purposes of black magic to allure and entrap us. As their far flung surviving colonies in Meso-America and Egypt had Venus based calendars, I always sort of assumed Venus/Lucifer was the patron deity of Atlantis and is still worshipped today by the black wizards who believe they are the descendants of Atlantis.
How this all ties in with Saturn and Satan I’m still scratching my head about. But you are absolutely correct about the likes of lady gaga, etc who are indeed the devil’s music.
now here is an old gem of a metal band from the old days that is right up the Giza Death star alley. I’m not sure what the lyrics are about but the costumes are out of this world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyZ3pgABwss
I have been cranking CP Bach as recommended by Dr. Farrell. Great stuff! The better side of Venus– tapping into higher astral realms of beauty, refinement, and purity. Maybe the realm of the Gods? I still got so much clutter in my mind from my rock and roll hedonism days, it is tough to know.
It’s okay Frankie. Actually I heard about Bach some time ago too, but nowhere as deeply as what Dr Farrell talks about. I actually did go and buy a CD.
Could you please let me know which one you bought and seem to enjoy so much? Believe me, I will probably buy it. Though I believe it has to be played in a different “key” than what is used today and that Dr Farrell has that music?
I remember years ago I bought Beethoven’s 9th because it was supposed to be rapturous, and I do think it’s pretty amazing. But Bach of course goes back much further!
And yes, I am very aware of the “evils” of modern music. Truly. I definitely don’t go for music that is “sold” to the public, but rather music that earns it place in its own right. At least you can usually tell if “unsold” music is from the heart with no hidden agendas.
F.C. and D.O.!
I’m enjoying this thread as I read through your comments. Years ago I got a classical music appreciation course on tape and later C.D through The Teaching Company. Robert Greenberg, the professor, tells of the chronology and evolution of music starting from the early Greek plays through the post modern era. Well worthwhile. It was then that I came to appreciate J.S. Bach like never before.
I realize I’m preaching to the choir by saying the the problem with “music” today is that the entire cultural context is as base and vapid as the “music” itself. The ensemble makes me think of H. Bosch’s devolution of man (although admittedly open to interpretation) in his famous tryptic.
F.C. yep. in the darkest days of Mordor . . . . . . .Those guys had a genius for songwriting however IMO their songs had a cursory reference to Tolkien more than an incorporation of the LOTR story line. And these opening notes are my take on what the good Dr. might sound like if he broke wide for an evening or so . . . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoPDU0S_TbM
Daphne thank you for the Tsarian link. I will peruse it and give a listen to Coleridge, I.M. style as soon as time will permit.
All the best
Hear hear on the music thoughts terminally!
Maybe Tolkein wasn’t telling tales from the ancient past but prophesying the future.
Yahweh = Sauron
orcs= cyborgs
or history just repeats itself over and over again.
What a great answer. I was profoundly affected by Lord of the Rings, to the extent that I had tears rolling down. I knew that it wasn’t for any of the characters, but rather something much larger than myself.
I loved your definitions too.
When I ponder these epic struggles of good and evil now like so many times before already these is one song in particular that tends to jump into my head, “The Battle Of Evermore”, by Led Zepplin.
Hadn’t heard of it so I looked it up on YouTube. I see what you mean. Michael Tsarion turned me on to metal a few years ago. He believed, and I agree, that their words were often quite profound – especially compared to the pop music that’s around today.
To me the song is timeless even though it conjures images of castles and dragons. I guess the simple up and down cord scale on the mandolin is what provides the tension and struggle between the two forces. There are at least a couple of other songs the band wrote that also reference works by Tolkien. I’m intrigued by your metal remark courtesy of M.T. whom I admire for his original thinking. If it’s not too much bother a bit more info would be most welcome as this side of metal bands is unfamiliar to me.
DaphneO and Terminally S,
If you want to bring it on home then I suggest go no farther than Led Zeppelin’s “Ramble On” where they are making reference to “Lord of The Rings.”
Boy, does that bring back some memories. One thing about the 70’s, the music was great. Maybe the golden age of electric music. I’m referring to the 1970’s and not the 1670’s in this case, Dr. Farrell.
Tolkien was not a neo-marcion…
Are you?
Are you being facetious?
No, I wasn’t. I googled the word as I wasn’t sure of what it meant, and the site I went to showed they represent a deeper, wider study of the old testament…
Check out Marcion in Wikipedia and you’ll understand my comment.
Gregory,
thanks for that. Interesting stuff. I never heard of Marcion. You’ll have to elaborate on “Tolkein not being a neo-Marcion” for me one day though. I don’t quite know what you are driving at. In the meantime I’ll study up on Tolkein’s religious/spiritual views.
Israel = Mordor
drones = dragons
drones, microchips = ring of power
Isn’t it the ultimate fantasy of the Rothschild zionists to have Israel as the global command center for both the computers which will control the microchips which will enslave all humanity along with all the worlds drones which will terrorize the world population into submission?
In the old days they used magic and dragons. I imagine with their reliance on technology and not magic, the banksters drones will not linger on after they are out of power and continue terrorizing the populous. Decay of the mechanical and electrical components would see to that but it is amusing to imagine generations from now lone drones terrorizing villagers in some far corner of the world.
Yikes! I think I see what is going on here. That special homo sapien with the unique and hospitable DNA is just not good enough. While having the prerequisite ambivalence to moral behavior, this special homo sapien can not fly, breath under water, swallow a baby in one gulp, bend steel, shoot lasers from their eyes, and most importantly has a short life span of roughly 80 years of which they waste a large portion of watching tv and gossiping. In short, the special homo sapien is just not good enough for the desperately trapped disembodied malevolent voyeurs in the other realm who desire to be here.
Therefore, their agents here on Earth in DARPA,etc are preparing a new physical casing for them which will make them far superior to the current Earth inhabitants and which will inevitably make homo sapiens obsolete except probably as a psychic food source. I guess that Matrix movie was right on target.
So, how do we stop them?
1) Destroy their agents here on Earth? The nazis tried that and were trounced and now they are working for them.
2) Change the Earthly vibration to one of overpowering LOVE where creatures like that can not thrive. Impossible. Human beings are too dysfunctional from thousands of years of strife and decades of cultural programming exacerbating humankind’s negative tendencies such as fear, hate, lust, violence and anger. Moreover, our beastly nature would probably never allow the majority to rise to that level.
3) Preserve the homo sapien sapien by starting colonies below Earth, under the sea or off planet and hope the new super cyborg Earthmen will not notice them or deem them inconsequential. Doubtful but worth a try.
4) Do the above but also weaponize space and attack them from above when they arrive. Most likely this would kill the majority of humanity but may rid the world of the enemy newcomers as well and homo sapiens can return and start again.
5) Have delusional hope that we will be raptured, saved by the second coming of Christ, or by white hat aliens sheriffs who are protecting the galaxy. This may bring psychological contentment but still does nothing concrete to secure our survival.
6) Attempt the time tested and well documented method of propitiating the Vedic Gods chiefly through fire ceremony and Sanskrit mantra recitation and pave the way for their return where they will combat these demons like in the days of old and undoubtedly crush them. This would require only a small portion of trained, earnest, devoted, stalwart human beings of spiritual accomplishment supported by the population at large in their endeavor most importantly in trustful intention.
7) Find the access to infinite power hidden from us but inside ourselves, switch it on and become Gods ourselves. That is– uncover the luminous DNA accidentally bequeathed us the first time around by our creators and activate it through genetic tinkering or internal alchemy.
is it not a possibility that we may be using strawberry syrup where we should be using transmission fluid. is this the correct dream? the right premiss ? what a grandiose assumption.
For lack of a better word, try metamorphosis, where two very different lifeforms could derive from a single fertilized cell.
Somewhere along the line of this thought comes the twist/in the apparent need for “first cause”.
“Who are you?” asked the Caterpillar.
“I – I hardly know, Sir, just at present – at least I know who I was when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.”
“What do you mean by that? EXPLAIN Yourself!”
“I cain’t explain MYSELF, I’am afraid, Sir, because I’am not myself you see.”
However, in this metamorphosis there is the added biological “Ontogeny” twist, or the sequence development of our “bodies” from a single fertilized egg, is that these emmensely complex structures get built w/o anybody in charge.
Bohm stated that it was his belief that the end part of the universe was holographic, and contained all the information presented in the entire cosmos. The mechanism for this instant connectedness is not some invisible foeld from one part to the next, but a bit of each part being lodged in the other. A true and essential oneness of ourselves & the universe.
Read between the lines.
the truth when grasped is simple and easily understood……all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
As per Robert Barricklow’s comment below, the holographic reality means that a little bit of everything is in everything else. That is why radionics practitioners, with the use of a radionics instrument (anyone can by these things on line; they are easy to make), can effect treatments at a distance, wirelessly, essentially like voodoo. The medium of communication is not the electromagnetic spectrum, the energy of which fades with distance according to the inverse square law. Beardon called this longitudinal waves (as opposed to transverse), but he’s missing the point somewhat in that an entirely different stratum of reality is being used here – what Tesla and others called the aether. Communication at this level is instantaneous, i.e. faster than light, because at this level, distance does not really exist.
The aether is where all the holograms coexist, and it erroneous to think of a multitude of different holograms, all sort of adjacent to one another.
Radionics makes all this easily experienced to anyone who cares to take the time to learn it. By the use of a blood or sputum sample or even a photograph, you can connect with anyone, anywhere.
Don’t think the classified boys haven’t already been working on this for 50 years. That’s why you never heard of radionics, which like homeopathy, has been around over 100 years. It’s like free energy, it’s so simple, it has to be kept a secret, or how can we be controlled.
Radionics like homeopathy may not be mainstream but it isn’t entirely esoteric either. Abrams, Drown and DelaWarr were pioneers in this somewhat strange modality. How can a box with wires, without an electric current, that is connected to numerical rheostats possibly create an energetic value that is therapeutic? The dialed-in box, as I recall serves as both the antigen/antithesis and the carrier wave for the recipient while in the “well” of the box the biological sample carries the unique signature of the recipient to whom the healing forces are broadcast.
Now consider “Natural” healers who require no apparatus at all and they too can cause healing from afar. I wonder then whether the radionics guys are also natural healers themselves but just don’t realize it and that their device just reaffirms their good intentions towards the patient. If one were to create an experiment where the healer is tricked into believing that the box is set to the right setting could they then still heal even if it were not?
Our minds, particularly the focused minds of adepts, have been documented to be able to affect a desired outcome. I believe the battle for the world is in no small part connected to The Controllers of the world’s ability to inhibit the minds of the masses, particularly those amongst us who are of good will and have focused intent.
Yes, Terminally Skeptical, while the gist of what you say is true, this discussion forum is largely about real technology. What is magic but a technology that we don’t yet understand. I love the skeptics who stand at a distance and never actually get there hands dirty with real experience. As with homeopathy we have a phenomenon with radionics that is verifiable through experiment. Whether current scientific paradigms can explain it is a secondary consideration.
Nikola Tesla’s scientific understanding was actually much different than ours. In fact, he understood electricity to be a flow aether; and the copper wire served as a guide or conduit, the aether in the circuit flowing not just in the wire but around it too. How antiquated you say (because of you took some science courses in college and read Scientific American), yet his inventions worked beautifully and we are still using them. The classified boys like him too. I say the person with the best technology, has the most correct understanding of reality.
When they start to focus on Right hemisphere vs left processing and perhaps as some say the pineal gland…..
Ah the focus on the frequency realm vs space time realm…may be within accessing but will it have requisite referential domain to function once removed as a soul? Data yes…. But soul? Very interesting….Here is an example… Digital recording can be a fantastic and masterful modus of recording of an orchestra. Is it the same as a Performance? What is missing is the experience. Analog wave form signal vs sampling? Fascinating concept as applied to human mental and spiritual experience. Glimmer of this was noted in movie Promethius with David accessing dreams of crew member and conversing in dream states. We may be able to do more than we give ourselves credit for being able to do perhaps.
The spiritual is not, and can never be an effect of the physical–that’s the Teilhardian heresy.
To use an analogy, a person can play a song on the piano, and the song can be emulated on the piano without the person; the piano does not engender the person or the song–it is not act; the person engenders the song; emulating the song does not engender the person. ( the piano is matter, the person is the soul, and the song is the effect or signature).
While the words of consecration constitute the form of the ritual, the actual effect of transubstantiation is a result of a spiritual influence that can only be mediated by someone who has himself been consecrated to act in divinis.
That’s an interesting take Gregory. I have read quite a bit of Teilhard and I didn’t get that slant. I thought he just saw God in all things. I thought he’d grasped the essence of the perennial teaching that all is ultimately one. (Including the piano?)
Precisely! He was a monist–one that flattens out the vertical into the horizontal. But, clearly, the pianist is quite distinct from the piano.
Teilhard fuses (or rather confuses) spirit and matter in the neologism, spirit-matter. As scientist/philosopher Wolfgang Smith remarks:
” What Teilhard has failed to grasp is that spirit and matter are situated on different levels of reality. They are not simply two faces of a single cosmic substance or principle, but two tiers of the cosmic edifice…”
The One, as all traditional metaphysical systems maintain, is not either part of the cosmos, or even the whole cosmos–it is the ground of being from which comes the cosmos. This is where the univocal and analogical conceptions of Being part ways. The perniciousness in some forms of monotheism devolves from this univocal conception–which sees the Divine Being as being of the same stuff as non Divine Being–just bigger and more powerful–the Calvinist God (Yahwehism if you want to use that pejorative term although the analogical conception can found in the Old Testament and is the orthodox Christian view).
In the analogical conception, Being, the divine ground, is wholly other–it does not compete or struggle with being; it doesn’t displace being; it is the source of being which also co-inheres with being.
In a world of growth and decay, the soul is the seat of the appetite and through our ability to reason makes up our personality.
The spirit is the seat of god, the body and the soul can be separated however the spirit and the soul can be distinguished.
In otherwords being led by the material or the supernatural.
In DaVinchis last supper, the back of the throne chair in front of the table sits empty….
So… spirit is everywhere. And mind creates matter. So if someone has a passion to play the piano then a piano would have to be created – by mind. Are they separate?
Dr Farrell, I’d love you to come in here. Though probably you have spoken about this before.
Yes, what you are calling spirit, the fathers called intellect, the divine part of the soul, which however, as you say, can be distinguished from it. The intellect is the form of the soul, as the soul is the form of the body. So, again, as you say, the soul mediates between the body and the spirit.
With a lowercase “s”, spirit is a creation–and not the same as Spirit.
God creates everything, including matter, ex nihilo; and so he is separate from the creation–he is not a demiurge.
Thanks for the discussion Gregory. Food for thought.
“First Cause” is a lost cause, in that, it doesn’t exist.
If non-existence is true, existence must be true.
Existence=Being.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZkHv8iTJPo
Adherence to Aristotle’s and St. Thomas Acquinas’s (A&A) prime mover or unmoved mover assumes that the human mind can fathom the unfathomable. If the universe has always existed then the prime mover is irrelevant. The Vedic scriptures describe a cosmos that always was/has been in contrast to the modern pop science version that says it all began with the flawed yet hard to kill Big Bang some 14 billion years ago. I believe that Hawkings mathematically disproved singularity but it still persists because much like quantum theory it is a useful working model for predicting outcome. This quest for God is a universal theme, recurrent in sci-fi novels and even alleged interviews with aliens (haha, boy am I walking the fringes) from technologically superior civilizations admit they too are still looking for the dude that got us into this mess in the first place. Also try imagining a model where time is not relevant/meaningless. That would be the supraluminal “correspondence” , the longitudal wave, the “spooky action at a distance” first postulated and later observed by physics nearly 3 decades ago. Boggles the mind, doesn’t it?
It’s also somewhat ironic that while the adherents of A&As (see above) talk about the material world, which presumably means all that can be quantified, 90 plus percent of the universe is said to be hidden and unmeasurable, i.e. dark matter, dark energy. Whereas this won’t be sufficient reason to refute the primer mover/God model it does call into question the reliability of that model since it is based on the mere less than 10 percent of the universe that we can observe.
Face it, humans tend to have foregone conclusions and afterwards tailor their arguments to support their beliefs, including a belief in God. But assuming a God, wouldn’t God be a spirit or the universal spirit, a non-corporal entity, in the vernacular of science, aka a field? And when the field differentiates “God” is born.
What follows is a peek at one of the most brilliant minds of our times, M. T. Keshe. Notice that the common thread in the 3 primal components are energetic fields, by definition a subset of the undeferentiated which shapes all things “material”: To the science-minded the videos are well worth the time.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keshe_Foundation
Isn’t it interesting that the secular evangelists of transhumanism have embraced Teilhard as a prophet of Transhumanism:
http://jetpress.org/v20/steinhart.htm
YES,AND IN THE END ALL HUMANITY WILL LIVE LIKE IN THE (MATRIX MOVIE)