REVERSE ENGINEERING THE TOWER OF BABEL MOMENT
Years ago, while watching one of my favorite series of videos - Leonard Bernstein's The Unanswered Question: Six Talks at Harvard - I heard him use a phrase that has stuck with me ever since, and indeed informed much of my writing. That phrase was "the Tower of Babel Moment of History." I have written about this meme in many books, most recently in The Grid of the Gods and in Transhumanism: A Grimoire of Alchemical Agendas with Dr Scott de Hart.
On any view, if one looks at the progress of modern science and technology, it would appear that the ancient legends are being fulfilled, or, if one takes the view that those legends contain a decayed but real truth, then it would appear that modern science is revivifying those legends, that we have arrived at the same point in history that we were at aeons ago. On either view however the ancient myths are coming to life.
The basic outline of that myth, with respect to the Fall of Man or The Tower of Babel Moment of history, is that mankind was in his primordial state in a state of union, though that union is variously portrayed by various ancient legends and stories. The one most familiar to us in the west of course is the Old Testament, where mankind is in a socio-cultural and linguistic unity, speaking one language. In other versions, mankind is in a sexual unity, an androgyny. But in almost all cases, in this state, mankind is a threat to God or the gods, and for that reason, that unity - whatever its basis - is broken up, in Mayan mythology (and even, if you really know your rabbinical and patristic traditions, in the Jewish and Christian traditions) the androgyny is broken and the sexes are created. In the biblical version, God scrambles the tongues.
Then there are all those cosmic war traditions: Marduk's invisibility or stealth suit, with which he wages war on Tiamat and finally destroyers her, but only after she has deployed (apparently), weather weapons and chimerical genetic creations: manimals, they are called by modern proponents. Well, we are well on the way to recreating weather weapons (if we haven't already, and I think we have), and by now most of you who are regular readers here know that we have already gone a great distance down the road of creating "manimals" and other chimerical creations. We are, in short, re-creating, or giving technological life to, the ancient Mesopotamian stories.
Added to this, genetics has been able to use complex computer algorithms to reconstruct a basic outline of the rise of various haplogroups - the human races - and to reconstruct how they all came to be where they are now, and approximately when the groups arose. In a way, "genetic history" has been "reverse engineering" how the human race was dispersed; it has been reverse engineering the Tower of Babel Moment.
So it stands to reason that, sooner or later, someone would apply the same or similar techniques to reconstruct ancient human languages:
Ancient languages reconstructed by computer program
Look at these paragraphs more closely:
"Over thousands of years, tiny variations in the way that we produce sounds have meant that early languages have morphed into many different descendents.
"Dr Klein explains: "These sound changes are almost always regular, with similar words changing in similar ways, so patterns are left that a human or a computer can find.
"'The trick is to identify these patterns of change and then to 'reverse' them, basically evolving words backwards in time.'
"The scientists demonstrated their system by looking at a group of Austronesian languages that are currently spoken in southeast Asia, parts of continental Asia and the Pacific."
As most of you know, I have long entertained the suspicion that some genetic research may be looking for that "Annunaki genome," and, if discovered, to trace it down to modern times and to determine which group, if any, carries it. Rest assured, if this is a goal, we won't be told about it, much less be told of the results of the search. And there is a massive moral caveat emptor here: this precise belief informed Nazism, and ultimately underwrote their genocide. But there is also a genetic caveat lector for any such modern-day racist: it is now the opinion of most geneticists that all of us have some genetic connection to Africa.
Now, as this article implies, "they" are reverse engineering the linguistic Tower of Babel Moment, for it takes little imagination to see that the method can be expanded, to a database of words from all known human languages, and to an algorithm that, like the genetic code, will trace the development of the African languages, the Oriental, the Indo-European, all the way back to that moment that mankind, according to the biblical version of the Tower of Babel Moment, was of one tongue. Indeed, it might be found that there never was but one tongue. But if there was, and it's outlines were reconstructable to a reasonable degree of margins of error, it might be very revealing.
And that might fuel even more transhumanist agendas: suppose that primordial unified language were found; and then taught to everyone, or, perhaps, accessed by your nifty cyber-implant, a kind of cybernetic Rosetta Stone program, all tied neatly together via a global internet brain... Then, once again, mankind might decide to build something that embodies the heavens, or it might gain a unique intuition and insight into the one already at Giza... and the whole thing might, indeed, begin all over again.
See you on the flip side.
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Have we not already reached the Tower of Babel moment in relation to our langauge. Maybe we are thinking about it all wrong. All languages evolve over time and surely, the evolutions of those languages are passed down through cultures and in local tongues. There is no doubt about that but, maybe we are speaking the true Tower of Babel langauge by the simple act of typing into a computer. Maybe the language in the Tower of Babel moment is not even a spoken language. Maybe, it is computer langauge that we lost, to me computer language is way for each and every culture over the globe to easily communicate with one another. With the loss of computer language each culture could then evolve in their own traditonal language with not much input form other cultures.
I think you’re largely correct, John, though for reasons you might not suspect. I pointed out in my very first book that there was a peculiar fact about Amayra Indian language noticed by linguists who’ve studied it, in that though an ancient language it appears to be almost PROGRAMMED to translated from other languages… So I think we may be looking at something spoken, but, in the “high knowledge” hypothesis, may have been a kind of programmed language from a higher consciousness state…
good insights John but I think we need to take it a step farther- I remember as a child being able to read people’s minds (I think we all had this ability) but the minute I realzed this I lost the ability; in other words I didn’t realize what I had until I lost it- do read on-
going at step farther: one of my American co-workers here in Germany during the 90’s told me one day she was cleaning up in the kitchen as her 3-yr. old son was sitting at the table- according to her testimony Jayne was just thinking to herself (no verbalization) and asked herself a question- her son gave his verbal opinion to her question- she told me she was gob-smacked- any wonder?-
I’ve always believed and continue to believe that the Tower of Babel moment was the time we humans were genetically re-enginered/re-wired to rely on speech/writing as to telepathy-
stay well- regards-
Larry in Germany
A professor of linguistics to whom I had been introduced by a mutual aquaintance, stated he realized after 40 years everything he had been teaching was false. That so many scambling up the “ladders of life” are today so willing to gift such handsome sums to be miseducated affirms his late enlightenment. Mark Twain had intuited something askew earlier as evidenced by, “I never let my schooling (formal education) interfere with my education (life-long quest for knowledge).” Twain was unique, a consumate independent thinker & an astute observer of human nature.
No doubt in the preceeding several decades a use of the English language has atrophied, wherein constructive debate of important issues is submerged beneath a cacophany of emotion-laden adhominum attacks, schools of red-herrings & non-sequiturs. Any search for truth is relegated to personal taste & a top-down engineering of public perception. The media & much of mainstream academia are second rate prostitutes – complicit in a cyclical regurgitation of ill-informed but institutionalized nonsense.
Regardless… “In the beginning was the word.” And through “speach” the universe & all life is brought into existence. One might add too, “truth” IN speach, i.e., the Creative Mind “speaking truth.” So, in the beginning was the “true” spoken word. The world of duality lends itself to corruption. Now there is truth, but also falsehood without which truth itself in duality would be rather inconsequential. Indeed, in most of today’s court rooms, how could one swear “to tell the whole truth & nothing but the truth,” if, as pundits of moral pluralism must imply, there is no such thing as “truth.” So can anyone swear to tell the truth, if one so swearing has no idea of what truth is? Truth is not an empirical “fact.” Today’s Courts in Commerce serve neither truth nor justice. They DO service rather, “Interests” of the Fiction.
Search for, “David Wynn Miller QUANTUM GRAMMAR SEMINAR.” Note: As David explains, the English language is not necessarily a language of truth, but is left wide open for an insideous & calculated obfuscation.
Just to reference, “…Selections From Early Greek Philosophy (1964),” The Sophists to which modern attorneys owe their somber homage… “Platos’ condemnation of the Sophists in the Laws is principally directed against the master of dialectical disputation who practiced Eristic Sophistry. In the course of satisfying the contemporary demand for training in disputation as a means to success in public life and in the law courts, the efforts of these professional teachers not unnaturally came to appeal primarily to men ambitious for material success (politicians & their Corporate benefactors). The consequence would appear to have been an increased preference for teaching (and learning) verbal tricks rather than insistence upon soundly argued philosophical discourse (few rhetoriticians here). The resulting emphasis led to an interest in contest or strife for its own sake rather than in the determination of the truth or falsity of the prepositions under examination.” Sophists derail constructive, informed debate.
“…Once having derived from Protagoras’ proposition, homo mesura, the distinction between art or convention and nature, the Eristics proceeded to make explicit its implications in the fields of religion, law and morality. Plato implies that Sophism tended to reduce the grounds for religious belief, moral practice, and legal observance to mere convention.” By such measure that which is immoral is introduced as a “legal” prerogative, i.e., enabling to do legally that which is immoral — patented life forms & GMO seeds.
Note: The foregoing is from whence the concept of a “living constitution,” covertly & nefariously designed to abrogate the constitution, is derived. A sense of objective truths having been discerned, arrived at over centuries & codified in common law, i.e., the law of the people – were surreptitiously unseated by legal trickery & “Sophist-icated” (adulterated) argument, to give way to “The Subjective Greek Theory,” which posits truth can be only known by an “evolving” taste & convention, as if “truth” itself could be defined as a flavor of ice cream. But of course, by demanding one accept a premise there is no such thing as objective truth, one must paradoxically accept THIS as an “objective truth. So, the disingenuous claim of the Sophists is self-negating. Call it a “SOPHISTICATED” pretense.
The word “Sophisticate,” means to adulterate or to corrupt. But of course, like many words, conventionally, the black meaning of the word has mostly been “cleansed” & detached from its etiological root, however, William Dufty in Sugar Blues (1975) writes the following…
“…The Pure Food and Drug Laws are frequently regarded as landmarks in the history of social legislation. Certainly, government can have no higher aim than to attempt to protect the health of the people. Perhaps biological decline was well enough along when it became necessary to pass laws to prevent people, out of excessive devotion to money-making, from poisoning one-another — “When people lost sight of the way to live,” wrote Lao Tsu, “came codes of love and honesty.” Enter the Corporation.
“…Keeping sugar out of beer had been a burning public barroom issue in England for centuries. Finally, Parliament passed an act in 1816 making it illegal for a brewer to have sugar in his possession. A brewer would be presumed guilty of intent to “SOPHISTICATE” (CAPS mine) if he so much as had sugar around. Where once knavish brewers had been dragged around town in a cart in which privy refuse had been collected, Parliament settled for fines and warnings. SOPHISTICATORS were handled in a “civilized” fashion. They were taken to court. The lawyers (SOPHISTICATORS) took over. The brewers organized and lobbied Parliament for twenty years until they were finally allowed to make — for their use only — a syrup from sugar for darkening their beer. So much for progress.”
By that time an anonymous British consumerist had created a public uproar in 1830 with his book, Deadly Adulteration (read “SOPHISTICATION) and Slow Poisoning Unmasked, or Disease and Death In the Pot and the Bottle, in which the blood-empoisoning and life destroying adulterations (SOPHISTICATION) of wines, spirits, beer, bread, flour, tea, sugar, spices, cheese-mongery, pastry, confectionary, medicines (also include tobacco, law & justice), etc., etc. are laid open to the public.” So, when one becomes SOPHISTICATED, does this also mean one has been “adulterated?” And would not a “SOPHISTICATED GAY,” be twice adulterated?
The power of the written & spoken word can either edify, clarify & enlighten, or it can degrade, confuse and obfuscate. It’s been a SOPHISTCATED world, largely by design & no small effort.
Well done Elm. Of course the lingo was not sophisticated, and thereby, platable to to my taste. Still, putting sugar in the beer, is by today’s standards, sweet.
Today it’s irradiated, radioactivated, genetically engineered, floridated, poisoned with corexit, then chemically enhance exponentially, and finally – salted to taste.
Actually, under closer scrutiny, modern processed food too often has little if any taste. This is why today’s Corporate food processors must add so much sugar, salt & other trace flavor enhancers like MSG.
More often than not, there really isn’t much representative flavor or nutritional benefit, just a disproportionate taste sensation of salty & sweet. Most large scale monocrops are minerally deficient & thus read ominously low on the BRIX Scale. And as minerals are the building blocks of all biological life, this affects health outcomes on both a personal & national scale. The more minerally deficient food crops are, the more draconian measures like irradiation & so-called Roundup Ready crops, will be required to compensate for defects in the soils & resultant minerally defective food supply. The soils are the issue.
Further, nutrition has been disproportionately sacrificed for shelf life & transportability. Milk, for instance, is not designed to be gathered & agglomerated into large milk processing plants operated by chemists & in some cases transported to markets thousands of miles distant, but produced & delivered whole (raw) from healthy grass grazed cows with enzymes & health benefits intact sold fresh to a local population. We must move from a macro to a micro model of food production. They’ve done it with micro craft breweries, so micro craft dairies are possible.
See, “Bread From Stones” by Julius Hensel & the Foreward by Charles Walters of Acres USA, as well as Fertility From Ocean Deep by Walters. And yes, see, “Sea Energy Agriculture: Nature’s Ideal Trace Element Blend for Farm, Livestock & Humans,” by Maynard Murray M.D. We must reclaim an oversight & production of our most basic necessity, food. The soils are in serious need of ammendment.
When Europeans come to the U.S., they are amazed at what they see! Processed FAT Americans. It turns out, You Are What You Eat!
Elm,
This post of yours is one dedicated post!
Who says texting a word or two on expensive I-Phones is replacing ‘good old fashion (written) dialogue.”
In a crazy sped-up world it’s good to know people can still have the luxury to do what pleases them! (or should I say have the time to write?)
No, the Agora hasn’t disappeared. It just transformed itself into this web site.
Paul, you may wish to take a peek at….
The New “Agora” Magazine – On-Line Edition
http://theagoranational.ca/
Language seems to be the key, God ‘spake’ creation into existence, Adams’s ‘naming’ of the animals, Christ is the word (logos), the Jewish mystical Sefer Yetzirah (book of formation using specific words), gematria, spells, magic, incantations, the power of words in the law, mathematics etc.
It seems that these precepts are legacy concepts of a higher order of thinking, somehow the manifesting of reality through intention and using a medium (language?) to facilitate it.
Nearly all languages attempt to “describe” what has or is being created, whereas Hebrew “defines” what is to be created. This is why Hebrew is known as the “holy” tongue, because it is the language of creation as well as the language of liberation. I understand Sanscrit is the only other language with the force of creation still contained within it.
A brief but excellent explanation.
Oh yes, the Tower of Babel was just as much if not more a chaos & a confusion of meaning as it was an emergent or induced multiplicity of languages. In one word, Babylon was all about confusion. One might even suggest, a mechanism of “confusion” of meaning is implied in “Order Out Of Chaos,” or in Old Latin “Ordo Ab Chao.” So, the SOPHISTICATORS strive to create “order” out chaos, or an induced confusion with a predetermined outcome. They don’t refer to it as central “casting” for nothing.
I made a comment today about the Tower of Babel moment and also spoke about an article in Phys.org about tunable crystals and the headlong march to support what Joseph said. My comment was not posted, but other’s were.
What are the criteria for curating comments? Why was my post not shown?
For some reason it just showed up… My apologies!
It shows up as awaiting moderation but the comments of others have been posted… So I ask again? What are the criteria for comments to be posted?
I see this whole issue of language being placed in a frame that, is at best, off center. There is this business of one language. That strikes me as pure bs. Even in mathematics, the closet we have to one language; persumptions, as in givens, that may, or not be true. Yaj correctly & succinctly addresses this issue(near bottom of posts).
There is, of course, the “Gods/Aliens” influence with genetic engineering. This influence predisposes means of control; either in freeing the mind, controlling it, or combinations thereof. There is a spiritual aspect of language in being, that moves with the conscious/unconscious, in a thought process that implies language of thought. BUT language involves “communication”; and that is not as one. Although, it is tempting to “goal” oneself – to be as one with the universe, or another, …this is pure illusion/bs.
Using the mathemical language that the “alien” influence on language, is an intrinsic factor; than the whole frame is suspect from the get-go.
Now to throw a fly into the ointment.
To be,
does no require a “spoken” language.
If a PERSON is a MASK, as in the Latin “PERSONA,” does a PERSON, whether natural or Legal, exist? It seems “to be or not to be” might be a Legal question. To “under-stand” means to “stand under.” Stand under what? Man has been referred to as “the spirit that speaks.” Can man of independent volition tell himself he exists?
So, if a Judge of the Fiction asks if you “under-stand” the sentence, he is asking you to stand under his offer of contract for sentencing. This is just one small example of Court room of the Fiction obfuscations. Once again, this issue of syntax (could also be spelled “sin-tax”) is addressed at length by David Wynn Miller.
Lewis Carroll said in effect/My view of life, is that its next to impossible to convince anybody of anything beccause one of the hardest things in the world
is to hit the right button!
cont.
things in the world is to convey meanibg ACCURATELY from one mind to another.
In fact, in the latest science dealing with memes/mirror neurons, they find that your memes want you to believe in your ideas. If you believe in them, the more likely you need to relay them to others(just like the selfish gene). A new generation of cognitive scientists are discovering just how poor we are at choosing exactly what to believe. We have a distinct dendancy to believe the first thing were told over any subsequent version, because the first version of truth will always be the one we most rehearse in our brain. Because our semantic(meaning) and episodic(personal event) memories are separated in our brains-and yet we don’t appear to care that our referrencing system is screwy. This faulty belief-acquisition then leaves us all compromised. We are meme apes. We are all subject to memetic engineering.
I hate the word “memes.”
Robert, I wouldn’t put much faith in the new batch of Cognitive Scientists. It seems to me the only difference between the old batch and the new batch is that the new batch use ‘catchy eye-appealing-neurological terms or words that probably mean the same thing as your grandfather probably used when trying to get a point across to you, ha, ha!
Who teaches Cognitive Scientists?
(now if Mark Twain or Lucille Ball or even Edgar Allen Poe then that would be different but it was probably some professor locked up from the World in MIT )
Their just like Banker-crooks who promise to solve the problem they were too dumb to avoid in the first place.
No Robert, I wouldn’t put any of my eggs that still aren’t cracked into that basket, ha, ha!
Robert,
By the way I looked up that book you recommended “The Folly of Fools’ on amazon. The table of contents was tempting and I almost bought it on the spot but hesitated because I don’t want to get caught up in that “Evolutionary Theory Trap” until I have a clearer head. (I am caught up in a brand new apartment of my own and setting up house which can get hectic buying this or that but it’s fun even though it distracts me from my intellectual concentration.)
After hearing the Cultural Transformation and Covert Wars and Breakaway Civilization interviews on the The Byte Show I immediately ordered that book online along with Merchants of Despair> I also wanted to buy UFO’s and National Security vol 2 but was put off by the 23 used book price. I’ll probably save that for later?
I want to better get at the ideas Farrell makes concerning this phenomena. That is IF the phenomena is not all just some made up propaganda scheme? Terresterial or Not doesn’t make a difference to me. If it’s truth then that is some important reporting.
Also, I am waiting for Farrell’s “The Financial Vipers of Venice” book to come out. I’ll buy that one right away cause it might have something more in explaining the extortion someone might be using over these so-called counterfit bonds or derivitives? It’s news to me that someone can finally do to Bankers what they have been doing to us for Ages!)
Robert,
In a recent Byte Show interview the commentator asked Joe about a particular topic and Joe responded, “I rather not answer that for the question relates to what I have written in a recent book to be published. I rather have the reader (listener) look it up for themselves.”
It seems evident to me Dr. Farrell knows ‘how difficult it is to convince anyone of anything?”
Which PARADOXICAL in this ‘State of Denial’ they call the dis-United States it is very easy to convince the masses (shocked and conditioned as they are) of anything no matter how foolish or silly it is.
In this Land of Nihilism people are willing to believe anything as long as they can believe in SOMETHING? (It’s very hard on the psyche to not have some kind of faith even if it is of the negative kind or the belief in NOTHING which still is a ‘linguistic something?)
In my former counselor days I thought I could save the world just like some missionary but soon arrived at the conclusion that one cant really ‘convince’ anyone if they don’t want to be convinced shy of Chinese brainwashing tactics.
So I left the field and my new Motto is “Live and Let Die. ( it may sound cruel but I reason that “If one hasn’t caught on by now they probably never will. (children exempted from this. It seems to me people have to go through some form of shock and end up passing through a horror-tunnel to an ‘other side’ that is if they don’t croak in the process before they finally wake up from their slumber.)
We, who troll the Internet daily get the slanted feeling or alternate news or versions of it sometimes begin to think people are starting to wake up. Not necessarily. Maybe 2 or 3 percent are but the rest have no idea what your talking about ( in everyday, day to day, communications) if you mention some of the ideas expressed on this web site or others. (I tell you — people DON’T WANT TO KNOW and if you tell them you might be in for a NASTY RECEPTION!)
Kind of reminds me of the chap with the lantern who came down off the mountain into the village at night but no one was around to hear his message over the violent noise of memes being announced 24/7 over the Loudspeakers!
In my own grandiose fantasies my own ‘Mountain’ is actually the size of an ANTHILL , ha, ha!
Have a good day folks preparing for an early Spring, I hope?
Dr. Farrell’s books are by far the best. He knows. Although, as we discussed here, to convey that “knowledge” is extremely difficult in too many ways to count. Suffice to say, Dr. Farrell is successfully chipping away at “this momumental ignorance” that has been purposely constructed throughout the ages.
And like you, I like to “prep” myself before going in. Folly of Fools was great because it delt with deception. And that is of extreme extreme interest to me. Also language.
And yes, communicating to awaken the sleeping is near impossible sat times. I find when they believe 9/11’s official story line, I color them gone.
I hate to agree with you on this paul de gagne, but I’ve gone down that road of trying to “turn” the die-hards, and have concluded, it’s a waste of energy.
Forgey about the flying saucers, the early alien influence on humankind’s beginnings. If you get get past 9/11, you can’t get past go.
Excuse the typos.
You get the idea.
If you can’t get past 9/11,
you can’t get past go.
That is so very true. 911 epitomizes the Grand Con, and it is so in your face and so obvious by now that not being able to see it indicates a deeply entrenched blindness and denial, It was used to uproot reality, so seeing it for what it is is a regaining of reality and a reaffirmation of truth. It is very fundamental – as fundamental as, say, the Copernican revolution. If you can’t see through one of the grandest deceptions of our time then you will not really be participating in our times as an aware human being.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostratic_languages
Nostratic langauges.
“Linguistic purism” in the English language:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_purism_in_English
This brings to mind the ancient symbol of the Ouroboros. The obvious thought from this image brings to mind our ability to recreate ourselves from the past and our interior materium. It is also the the eternal return of the cycle not unlike the phoenix, possibly it is as Carl Jung said that it is the archetypal significance to the human psyche or as Jungian psychologist Erich Neumann writes of it as a representation of the pre-ego “dawn state”, depicting the undifferentiated infancy experience of both mankind and the individual child. It is also interesting that Plato described a self-eating, circular being as the first living thing in the universe—an immortal, mythologically constructed entity. There is no question in my mind that there is an attempt to reconstruct ourselves in this primordial state. This is the legendary opus of the Alchemists, the Philosopher’s Stone whether it be as as a computerized being or some other fashioned organic being. In any case I think we are seeing significant evidence to recognize the process is in deep motion.
great insights as always, Dr. Farrell- and I thank you for them- greatly appreciated-
but I just have chuckle to myself about Leonard Bernstein- as a professional musician myself (and knowing you have a very deep knowledge of music) this man seldom had an original idea regarding music whatsoever (the “West Side Story” score was nothing more than a plagiarism of Prokoviev’s music with aftarward invented tunes) and yet he professes to know about the “Tower of Babel” moment regarding music or of mankind or whatever-
so maybe Bernstein finally had a ray of reality- but his legacy has shown him to have been nothing more than a media-propogated celebrity and his legacy has left us nothing (start with his over-exagerated interpretation of the Mahler symphonies with the NY Philharmonic- it’s a travesty)- enough for now about Bernstein- but just goes to show us how all kinds of music can manipulate us
Great post. Of course behind Babel is the game of the megaanum, the puppet strings of the universe and the rediscoveries of the ME, the ME TOTH or “method”, and their suppression. “Which is to master?”
As the alchemists say – recounted by Peter Lavenda on The Byte Show – that the stone rejected by the builders, a vastly common element is the key; the texts say. I think that stone is sand. Quartz. As Joseph has said in his books, tuned crystals are a key ingredient. Check out this story on Physics.org:
http://phys.org/news281356481.html
Apparently the Max Plank Institute is bombarding crystals with ultrav lasers and rearranging the structures of crystals.
http://phys.org/news281356481.html
In the 1970s people like David H Lewis wrote about having access to physical documents from Atlantis and being able to read them. Also of course in the 1970s “The Chronicle of Akakor” was published (first in German and then in English). That book purports to contain bits of ancient text and be based on a real story recorded in that language.
Entertaining the idea that neither the claims of Lewis nor the book about Akakor are frauds, would a linguist working publicly in 2013 consult such sources? Answer probably not, so if say Akakor is real, these linguists would be hobbling themselves. And very possibly misconstruing the history of ancient mankind.
It would have been better if the scientist concentrated on creating a universal written language. The Chinese went down this path and look at the success they have had doing this. The only reason this study might be important is to find out when mankind first developed language. They should stop thinking like illiterates this the reason they have failed to unite the human species along with the their preachment for not getting along with other human communities and their master race obsession.
Remember the hullaboo about EBONICS?
Why, that’s not purported to be an ancient language?
Your correct but my post is just a recent example of what I believe is an attempt at a universal language.
If anyone asks me – the present Universal Language at the moment (I don’t see any drastic changes in the near future) is probably Mathematics. (if so then I am practically an “illiterate.”)
Math has problems, it’s not so universal. Simply because it takes givens and builds on them, but those givens are neither universal or independently provable. Math also breaks down at infinities and zeros.
I’d still love to know if there’s a trove of documents from Atlantis, or Leumeria etc, in say the Oriental Institute at the University of Chicago.
Nop, not the University of Chicago.
But there is a place where you coud hide just about anything, including documents/scrolls/books and art, answer THE VATICAN.
Wouldn’t you like to have a wander through the bowels of that den of theives and child molesters, the mind boggles when you think of WHAT could be down there. Especially something that would prove that the Roman Catholic Church is a MONUMENTAL LIE.
DownunderET
“For Your Eyes Only” in James Bond lingo, is probably, in Vatican lingo:
“For Lucifer’s Eyes Only”.
DownunderET:
Certainly possible the Vatican library holds some interesting documents, but Rome has been an occupied city–twice in the 20th century.
Your critique of the limitations of Mathematics is a critique of limitations of language itself.
All language and most communication–excepting perhaps nonverbal, poetic and otherwise aliteral expression of human emotion–breaks down at Infinity and Zero.
Perhaps this is because both are delusional constructs; perhaps because the nature of this coincidentia oppositorum is inexpressible; and perhaps for another reason entirely.
Mathematics IS a universal language: it facilitates highly-descriptive, fluent communication via a universal (though perhaps not entirely intuitive) script.
The fact that a language is so irresponsibly utilized (or interpreted or censored or obfuscated and made inaccessible) by some should not impugn its inherent potential.
A universal language–be it Mathematics or Hebrew or Latin or AAVE–will not, in and of itself, provide any Gnosis or grand resolution of Truth, Wisdom, Beauty or Purpose. It will instead supply a medium of communication through which such notions may be expressed, understood, supported, and refuted with supreme efficiency, effectively fostering a persistent, conscious (as opposed to un- or sub-conscious) co-creation of “reality” by and between the human mind(s).
TL;DR
Whatever our language, we must not mistake our description of an object for the Object itself.
I am reminded of that famous line from The Big Lebowski – “He treats objects like women, man.”
not to mention Esperanto- if my read read sorces are correct Esperanto was already invented in the 19th century