RT: TOP RUSSIAN PUTIN CABINET MEMBER RESIGNS
Now I don't know the ins and outs of Russian politics, obviously, but I suspect this one is highly significant, especially given the way RT is reporting it, and especially since I've been saying "watch Russia, and watch Mr. Putin," very closely:
Top politician, longtime Putin ally Surkov quits Cabinet
Now, in the bad old days of Stalin, Khrushchev, Kosygin, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, and perhaps even Mr. Openness himself, Mr. Gorbachev, I doubt we would have read anything this forthcoming from the Russian media:
"The head of non-parliamentary liberal party Yabloko, Sergey Mitrokhin, speculated that Surkov’s resignation was the Kremlin’s attempt to shore up the unity of the ruling political elite, and that Surkov’s recent speech in London had undermined this unity. Mitrokhin claimed that Surkov’s departure was forced in order to demonstrate how dissent is intolerable, Interfax news agency reported.
"Other opposition and human rights activists also suggested that Surkov’s departure from the government was not voluntary. One of the leaders of liberal democratic party PARNAS, Boris Nemtsov, said that top Kremlin officials ousted Surkov because they now rely solely on law enforcement mechanisms to shape Russian politics.
"The leader of the ‘For Human Rights’ movement, Lev Ponoimaryov said that the resignation was a “warning signal meaning that the law enforcers have won,” and that Surkov was a victim of the system he helped to create.
"Political analyst Sergey Strokan has told RT that in his view, the resignation was a sign of changes that await Russia’s entire political structure."
I suspect that Mr. Putin has indeed been doing some "house cleaning" (in Stalin's era, we would have called it a purge), but the real question that I suspect is on everyone's mind is "why?"
Well, there is of course Mr. Surkov's call for a "two party" system in Russia, which sounds suspiciously like the "two party" system in the USA, a system that serves the ruling oligarchy very well, and also tends to polarize political culture into a fruitless left-right struggle. I consider myself, and wonder just exactly where in this bi-polar(yes I said bi-polar, not bi-partisan) system I fit: on many respects I am conservative, on many libertarian, and on many even progressive in a 19th century sort of way. The system leaves the political center, in other words, in a vacuum. It's utility to numerically inferior elites is thus quite handy, especially to elites trained in a long history of dialectical manipulation. So when I contemplate the importation of such an inherently corrupt and dysfunctional system to Russia, I shudder; the Russians should too. (I mean, think about Russian versions of John Boehner, or Diane Feinstein, or Mitch McConnell, Harry whats-his-name, or Nancy what's-her-name: Ivan Behnerovitch, Diane Feinsteinovna, Mitch McConnellstenko, Nancy Pelosibichnev.... if you haven't run shrieking from the State Duma by now, you never will).
Ugh. Yuck.
Seriously, however, I think there is a geopolitical context in which this must be viewed. Recent actions by the BRICSA nations, including and especially Mr. Putin's Russia, have all the hallmarks of shoring up the domestic front for a long and protracted struggle, and we all know, I suspect, the target of that struggle. Indeed, if the Russian leadership is relying, as the article suggests, on "law enforcement mechanisms to shape Russian politics" (translation: FSB to round up dissenters), then I strongly suspect Russia is battening down the hatches.
I suspect, too, that this will be accompanied by more measures against the sort of covert operations and organizations that the West, and in particular America, has been using to sponsor "color revolutions" and other activities within spheres of influence that Russia has long regarded as its own. So once again, watch Mr. Putin's moves - domestically as well as internationally - very carefully. And again, beware the ever present temptation present in the West to view him or his ministers as merely neo-Stalinist throwbacks. If nothing else, the polish of the RT article alone should convince you otherwise.
See you on the flip side.
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Ilja, I am wondering if you have read “200 Years Together” by Solzhenitsyn. It has not been published in English but I have most of the first book from the net as people have been kindly translating it. I guess the second book would give us more thoughts on the current situation.
I would very much appreciate your thoughts. Daphne
Konsti, I will look up that PDF fole. And thanks for the definition of the third Rome.
From Russia with Love (to Cyprus)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-16/russian-pacific-fleet-warships-enter-mediterranean-first-time-decades
I wonder what political problems that Surkov was laying the ground work for. But if was the presdo Demo-Republican parties we have he had to go. The smoke and mirrors we have has allowed the real masters of the Empire to run amock around the world. All that our congress seem to be interested is striping us of our incomes and continueing the war racket and reducing us all to slavery in all but name. Choas,Greed,Murder is the only thing on their minds if they have any to begin with.
Here’s a whopper:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/political-conspiracy-theorists-seek-to-label-merkel-as-russian-sleeper-agent-a-900235.html
Let’s hope they don’t discover Pope Francis is a Russian agent as well any time soon.
If the Russians could defeat Napoleon and Hitler, they should never have been underestimated in winning the Espionage War.
I would add these others to my list of Russia agents:
1) Netanyahu– doing Russia’s bidding by leading Israel to ruin
2) Obamma– the CIA-zionist fellowship has crumbled under his Presidency
3) The Arkansas Dragon Lady– She was just ripe to be recruited by commies when she was at Welsley College. I’m still waiting for her to be activated. It is going to be nasty. She is Winnie Mandela, Imelda Marcos and Chairman Mao’s wife all rolled into one. They are probably re-programming her brain chip right now under the guise of a blood clot. When she gets back into the Presidency we will witness a Reign of Terror not witnessed since Robespierre. There will not be a political opponent left when she is finished. DC Will be a ghost town except for nodding yes men. Then she will be unleashed on the banksters.
4) NATO High Command– won’t follow orders when the big moment comes, unless they are from Russia
Yep, the ousting of yet another western ‘sock puppet’.
Go Putin, you have my vote!
I hope you right.
(Certaimly don’t want/lesser of two evils.)
I was thinking Surkov might’ve had too many undeclared foreign bank accts. Financial glastnost, baby…
The two party system is the bread & butter of oligarchs. Many may think dictatorshops, but the dictators are mere pawns being moved, at will, by the ruling elites. But a duopoly? Ah, there is a beast that serves many masters; except, of course – the people. It is an excellent mechanism for deception; and for divide & conquer. So are the BRISCA & the West becoming the alternate choice “close” for the globe at large?
Then many may say there is still the internet.
It is supremely ironic that the internet, the much ballyhood champion of increased consumer power and cuthroat competition, has become one of the greatest generators of monopoly in economic history. Digital market concentration has proceeded far more furiously than in the traditional pattern found in other arenas. As “killer applications” have emerged, new digital industries have gone from competitive to oligopolistic to monopolistic at breakneck speed.
Are we moving to a world that is divided into a BRICSA or West; for deceptive elitist rulers?
Of course, we’re already there, in a sense. But, perhaps, the there, that looks bad today; maybe paradise, to what’s coming around the creedence clearwater bend.
I’ve been reading your blog, Mr. Farrell for some time now. I’m interested in your speculations concerning nazi international, banks, WW2 etc.
But let me say a few words about one person that you mention from time to time in bad forms. It’s Joseph Stalin.
I haven’t read any of your materials about Stalin(I sure will), but your quick mentioning him gives me a feeling that your opinion on Stalin’s activities are negative.
And that’s why I’m writing.
As a person who interested in studying real history and as a Russian who knows how aggressively started information war in my country against Stalin after his murder in 1953 and it’s continuing today. I would dare to say that there is no English(or translated into English language) researches(or very few) that can give some objective perspective on Stalin’s work and his personality. One way or another all information about Stalin in media, books is negative. And even from independent and honest researchers, as I think you are, Mr Farrell.
I know how hard to get a true information about Stalin’s era in Russian language(I’ve read about 10 books(propagandistic) about that period after I realized it’s all lies) that’s why I think it’s harder to get in any other language.
I’m not speaking about the books that were written in conditions of so called “cold war”.
Nowadays in Russia there are researchers who say that destruction of USSR had begun with Stalin’s murder. I do agree.
Why I wrote all that text above(on a bad English)(my apologies)?
Because I would like you Mr. Farrell to be more accurate about what you write on Stalin. You are writing about banksters and other groups of western elite who terrorize ordinary people, but speaking about Stalin, he was confronted them all his life systematically and successfully. That’s why he’s always mentioned negatively in media. And as a reader of your blog Mr Farrell I dare to say you are Stalin’s ally.
P.S. I assure Vladislav Surkov will return to the state management very soon.
P.S.(2) Your parallel about Stalin’s and Putin’s way of work is an excellent observation.
Surkov was a western sock puppet? Oh, God, come on! He was the one who had successfully created pro-Putin propaganda structure inside Russia, including the pro-Kremlin youth movement “Nashi (Our guys)”.
Dear. Mr Farrell, you have repeatedly made efforts to persuade your readers here, in the U.S., that neo-stalinistic stream that previosly grows from strength to strength in Russia is merely an artifact of the Western propaganda. The views shared here on this webcite by my countryman above just support the objective reality that can be recorded by those who have not yet been inflated by Putin’s sponsored propaganda.The cult of Stalin is being recovered and stimulated by state-controlled media, literature and pseudo-historic writings of individuals that have in common the specific KGB perfume spreading everywhere from them that seek to justify Stalin showing him not as the leader of the criminal organization – the KPSS – but as a cruel and nevertheless strong and fair leader. All this has its result in the fact the even russian high shoolers believe Stalin’s victims “weren’t all that non-guilty”. While strictly historically this may be right – among victims were as you might know ordinary criminals, communists of all ranks that were – when not doomed to be exterminated – imprisoned nad sent to Concentration camps in the great purge – this annihilated the whole criminal nature of the communist regime and extermination of the great amount of ordinary people of all fractions of the society – especially, peasants and farmers expropriation of whom led Stalin to built MIlatry comlex and obedient population. But more, it reflects not these subtleties nut the modern state of inner political “philosophy” and menthality in Russia and this of course is the fruit of unstable and non-secure social-economic situation that takes place in the country. You\re ironizing over what western press write abouit Stalinism ressurection in Russia. Yet it seems you’re unable to realize that the damn Western media has nothing to do with the fact no matter what it – the media – says as these two factors are eventually disconnected. But since these are just speculation of yours, then…the one shouldn’t be too demanding, right? Or maybe “partly conservative, partly libertarian, partly progression” IDEOLOGY just makes you a bit blind? Otherwise it wouldn’t be necessary for you to make such kind of notes as “Now I don’t know the ins and outs of Russian politics, obviously, but I suspect”
Highest respect
ILJA
Again Mr. Shebalin you don’t seem to get what I am saying and why. Let me be perfectly clear. (1) I do NOT deny that Mr. Putin is an authoritarian. Quite the contrary, if you have listened to EVERYTHING I’ve said and understood it, then you’ll recognize that this is the case; (2) I am NOT denying that Stalin was a criminal and genocidal murderer; (3) I am not denying Mr. Putin’s background in the KGB nor its impact on its regime.
Then I’m confused completely. I periodically go through your posts, especially, concerning Russia, Putin and didn’t notice anything but careful retelling of RussiaToday – philosophically (if one might use this term) the successor of the good old Soviet ITAR-TASS “news agency” among other goals aimed it brainwashing the heads of the western suburbans and just in the same key of rendering information. However you list this “source of objective information” as being your favorite. Of course it’s the individual choise of your own that is what everyone entitled to. However, I noticed the one strange thing that I’m unable to psych out. Your tone towards american Media is usualy varying from openly sarcastic to hostile, while (though maybe I missed smth) Russia Today invokes your favorable commentaries and interpretations. So, no matter are you purposedly doing this or not, such an attitude makes the readers of this cite to interpret this sort of presentation in the key “american-evil-media-versus-crystalline-source-without-mud-and-admixture” which is laughable the least. I’m lazy now to dab with finger to concrete examples (though it’s not difficult to search through the cite and bring them before your eyes), however, “frankly”, this is in way argue for your balanced view and is loaded with ideologized radical anti-govt oppositioner’s cliches and dogmas,, formed in this medium. Why I say cliches and dogmas? Mostly because they seem to be for the major part (UNFORTUNATELY) unsupported polytical speculations without even a trace of seriuos and meticulouse treatment based on the same kind of ridiculous teens-like insurrectional claimes by other “prominent” proponents of variuos silly conspiracy theorists. You went on to claime that America is spiralling into fascism, that survived Nazis that infiltrated themselves into gvt and corporate structures affect the inferior and exterior policy and so on and on endlessly (I remember, ocassionaly switching my TV to CNN just to catch the moments of an interview with this guy mmm…Ron Paul and how being asked by the interviewer “what features of fascism do you see that the US is now facing ?” began hesitating in speech and mutering dark things, all the subsequent time contradicting himself and trying to get out smth like he didn’t say exactly that, but there MAY appear certaint tendence in the future in how the US. corporations-influenced political edifice has being maintained and bla-bla-bla), complaining of how “the liberties can’t be changed to the bigger security” etc, but in the meantime ignoring or satirizing those who write about violation of rudiments of “liberties” in Russia an REAL faschist methods of ruling that took power in post-Soviet Russia, especially in the last decade. And the reality speaking of the feeling of freedom to express your thoughts and views, that differ from officially accepted and being pushed, psychological climat (especially in the provinces) IS WORSE conciderably that you might think and that Russia Today won’t tell you anyway. In what fascist country such guy as Ron Paul would be allowed to be guest at one of the biggest TV Networks “in the hands of bloody Reptilians Illuminati” or you to express your thoughts in written press and books and not being throwed to jale and shot? Tell me, is it possible in the US to explode its own citizens and to put explosives in the basement of residential house and then, when the “agents” being detected, to cover up an affir and show everything as if being the result of “secret operation” to taste security systems? I know your answer, but “frankly'” it turned out that all 911 version is built on sand. But it doesn’t prevent you from “lesser evil” thinking. You claime that the US is a nearly faschist state reigned by the greedy oligarchized banksters and at the same time you are msising the real embodiement of heavily oligarchized state that my poor country Russia have become, depending on selling-out mineral reserves and investing money BACK IN THE WESTERN ECONOMY, American debt and European banks and there’re plenty materials and publications on that that you have skipped and no mention did came from you. Maybe blog someday on the subject of Russia’s admission into the WTO? Does that contradict your theory that Putin consolidates his country to fight the target – NATO, America etc – while he – through the numerous off-shores used by a complex financial-juridical scheme of front companies, owned by the members of his circle – operates in the western markets with millions of dollars (and euros) and that his fortune – contrary to what RT or Putin-friendly medias and persons have stated – is estimated of appr. 80 mln dollars? where this opposition to NWO. If the latter (IF) really exists then Putin is obviously part of it. And why do you persistently close your eyes and non-critically accept all that fudge that RT is feedind its fans I can’t find credible explanation. What I’ve written is only a small part, but I feel it’s hardle impossible to do all thing.
Howbeit
Have a nice day
I.S.
ILJA,
I really believe you are misrepresenting Dr. Farrell’s views on Russia, Putin and RT. I think you need to spend more time investigating what he has said numerous times on these subjects. I don’t think he puts Putin on any kind of pedestal or glossed over the methods he used to rise to power and maintain his power. I think everyone would like to know more about Putin and what is currently going on in Russia so your input would be greatly appreciated. Regarding RT, everyone knows it is a Russian government propaganda mouthpiece, but we like it because currently it seems to give more accurate and revealing news about the world and especially the United States that we don’t get from our domestic corporate owned media. I think we are all smart enough here to discern between half truths and total bull crap. The US media still does not get this. The Russian government is just taking advantage of this to give us a better (propaganda) product.
We are indeed slipping into a fascist state here in the US. I think the official definition would be a government that exists to serve the corporations. Few would dispute this in the US. My definition would be a society where the citizenry fears the police and can be detained without probable cause. We are pretty much there. The reason Ron Paul is not thrown into a gulag yet is because the fascists still have not been able to dismantle fully our Bill of Rights. It is a real problem for them but they are working day and night to solve this problem. What foresights our Founding Fathers had. There are prominent public officials here in the US who are not allowed to fly on commercial airplanes without any justification other than they are on the government’s “watch list.” That sounds fascistic to me.
Regarding Putin’s $80 million he accumulated since becoming President– I find that hard to believe. I think it would be closer to $8 billion, and even that might be a lowball number. Maybe more like $80 billion.
Yes, you’re right I meant 80 billion, but made a typing error.
As for the rest something weird has raised inside me, that is maybe I’m so “dumb”: what the term “propaganda” means? It means that rmass-media hunts line wished by the gvt, arranges mahaha-mahoola. To discuss preferences of one over other isounds like childish talk who’s zomby is better. Don’t think one should stoop to such a low level.
As for the fascists… that US has been ruled by corporations represented by two in fact non-PARTIES is a far old history that began long before WW 2 and 20 c. There’s nothing new. Everyone who’s keen in history is aware of this, the point is how to interpret this. I think you overestimate the part of “FOUNDING FATHERS”. From the beginning of the US history the division by two ruling forces that were in fact two fused groups of the ruling class – at the 1 stage rural and industrial bourgeoisie, latter – light and heavy industry+financial establishment and latter mixed up beyond recognition who represents who. That’s the true. However, comparing with European parliamentic chaos (repatedly resulted in coming to power variuos “saviors of the Motherland”, including Hitler, Mussolini, Horty,) this two Parties system provided political stability at the upper level of the power for uninterrupted functioning of the state bodies, and this limitation(only 2) is vital, other form is so called “russian form” of the organizing the ruling, that is hereditary monarchy concentrated in the hands of one man, who would is beyond and ABOVE any law and lobbying of egoistic class interests and is obedient only to his own conscience – according to typically russian peculiarity of menthality – combined with the widest home rule. Today we see in Russia not realization of this russian form, but a typical authoritarian regime of European type and even worse, because the regime sponges on the Russian natural resources – the opportunity that any other European or North American power doesn’t have. That’s why I concider the current political regime in Russia the worst (of course if to compare with the Western countries,) that has many of the features typically occurring in the 3rd World. You said:”The reason Ron Paul is not thrown into a gulag yet is because the fascists still have not been able to dismantle fully our Bill of Rights.” And to built the Gulag itself, right? It’s often quite comfortable to discuss about future, i.e. what hasn’t happened yet and speculate on endlessly. When they begin to built footing for the 1st in the American history concentration camp of Gulag ar Auschwitz type, please, let me know, then we’ll see.
See you on the flip side 🙂
Kindest regards
I.S.
Konsti, that was an extremely interesting post – for me anyway.
I have read many books on Russia and its history, and I have found that there are indeed “pro Stalin” thoughts amongst a few.
One thing I notice is that often people who demonize Stalin infer that the killing started with him, and that is so wrong. Lenin and Troskly started the killing spree right after the “revolution”. I think Stalin just killed the politically wrong people. Cleaning house? Maybe. Ruthless? I’m sure.
But I think in these times, with all the subversion from the west, a leader that wants his country to survive has no choice but to be authoritarian.
It may be that as the Tsars grew more democratic in their treatment of the serfs etc, (and they weren’t as badly off as we are told they were) the Bolsheviks were able to move in. A few attempted and successful assassinations, a few traumatic bombings, and they set the stage.
At this particular time in history I would prefer to have “autocratic” Putin as a leader than any of the corrupt western “leaders” we have today. At least he cares about his country.
It seems to me that if we are going to judge Russia by what our leaders say, we should be studying that country thoroughly so we can judge for ourselves.
A very good book for an overall history of Russia is “The Third Rome: Holy Russia, Tsarism & Orthodoxy” by Matthew Raphael Johnson. And I’m sure there are many others if we care to look.
Daphne
Thank you, Daphne, for your comment.
I do agree that repressions were started by Lenin, Trotsky and many others. But speaking about Stalin’s period, he was only defending himself and Russian people. Cause after Trotsky was forced to exile in 1929, his supporters in Soviet union started more intensively subversion against government and ordinary people. The peak of that struggle was 37-38, but Stalin has not won. The Trotsky’s supporters stayed in all kinds of institutions – army, special forces, party etc.
It’s interesting that in 1929 the parades of brownshirts in Germany became more massive and there uniform more bright.
And to end about Stalin and his team(many of which were also punished after Stalin’s murder. For example Beria, Merkulov). The only crime they commited against western elites is that they organized government state system in a way that elites should work for the people. With very low consuming standards. Of course if you were big boss, you could have big house, good cars, food etc. But if the quality of your work decreased, level of consumption reduced. And this system concerned everyone. Today we have still alive ballet dancers and musicians who are mad at Stalin, cause the system forced them working for the benefit of the society, all of it’s sectors. Also they had no opportunity to to fill the pockets.
Speaking about autocratic Putin, authoritarian Stalin, more or less democratic regime. I think more we are using these terms, more we get wrong answers and conclusions.
I have not read the book you mentioned. But it’s quite short may be I will. But I want to say about it’s titles “Third Rome”. Rome was great, but it’s was not fair. Rome was a slaveholding state. One of the things why Russia as a civilization is still existing is fairness. And a project of “Orthodoxian Third Rome” is still only a project.
I hope I haven’t bored you too much 🙂
Konsti, you haven’t bored me.
I actually don’t know why the term “Third Rome” is used. But after suggesting the book to you, I started rereading it myself.
I didn’t realise how much underlining I had put in it! I have quite a collection of books on Russia and it had slipped my mind that this one was a very important book for me.
In fact, I would perhaps urge you to think about reading this book. This man speaks with a love of Russia, and with genuine desire to speak his truth.
I have long reserved my opinion on Stalin, as I have found all leaders the west hates are called “madmen, mass murderers etc”. Perhaps he was just a man for his time.
“The third Rome” – it was a doctrine created in 15-16 century in Russia mostly by orthodox priests who came in Russia after destruction of the Byzantium. The logic is simple – First Rome disappeared in 476, Second Rome(Byzantium) disappeared in 1456. But Byzantium before falling asked Vatican for help. So they recognized Vatican as principal. However Vatican have not helped.
After that in Russia were reasoning: Byzantium lost there faith by asking help. And this was the reason why they lost to Turks. And now Russia becoming the first Orthodox force in the world, cause Russia has not lost the Orthodox faith. So the political strategists created a slogan “Moscow is the third Rome, and there won’t be any forth”. So they pretended to be Russia as successor of Rome.
This is a brief history of term. I personally estimate this whole story very negatively.
I can recommend “Ford and Stalin. How to Live in Humaneness”. This is a book written by group of Russian authors. I may only suggest you to read, but the information in this book is very hard to understand and the book is quite long.
Must be a good book because I couldn’t find it on amazon.
Ford was wise to the international banking cartel, as was Stalin. So I can see a bond there, in that that both recognized an endemic system of power, that threatened the political will of “the people”. There should, at least, be a balance of power between the economical sphere of influence vs the political spher(the people).
“they” love to talk of competition, but the stark reality is that the world is in the grip of monopolies and oligopolies. Monopoly is the enemy of competition, and competition is what keeps the system honest. Corruption id rampant all acroos the board, no matter what side your on(as if one really chooses a side).
As far as your comment “…and there won’t be any forth.”/God said to Moses Come forth. And Moses came fifth, and God lost 250 bucks(old gambler’s joke).
Thanks for your posts Konsti, very informative, in many ways.
to Robert Barricklow
As I know this book has not been published in English. But it’s absolutely free and available in pdf here:
http://dotu.ru/files/20040719-Ford_and_Stalin.pdf
Thanks for the link Konsti
Konsti, I don’t know if you have read 200 Years Together by Solzhenitsyn, but here is chapter 22 – From the End of the War to Stalin’s Death.
http://200yearstogether.wordpress.com/2010/10/15/chapter-22-from-the-end-of-the-war-to-stalin’s-death/
Your comments would be great. Thanks, Daphne
No, I have not read this book. I’ve just finished reading chapter 22, only in Russian.
First of all the name “Solzhenitsyn” in Russian means “with lies”. Some people who are studying old Russian even say that it’s directly can mean “person who lives with lies”.
Secondly, he is one of the most advertised author of the past century. What has he done to be advertised as “best Russian writer of the century”… I’m 27 now, but I have never met a person in my life(I mean a Russian) who had read Solzhenitsyn and could say something good about his writings. He was more a timeserver than a writer. His Nobel prize winning was in the middle of the cold war after he thrashed on his homeland.
Thirdly, one of US ambassadors to Soviet Union in his memoirs stated that some of Solzhenitsyn works were mostly written in US embassy in Moscow and not by Solzhenitsyn.
Fourthly, Solzhenitsyn himself stated that numbers of people who were repressed In USSR that were given in his books are not based on statistics or contemporary records. It’s funny but while he was in Gulag Solzhenitsyn was cured from some illnesses, one of which was testicular cancer, he was operated successfully.
Now on the matter of the book “200 years together”. The book supposed to open somehow a “jewish question” in Russia. But as a jew, Solzhenitsyn writes from jewish point of view. And that is never ending story of how jews were repressed. That has nothing to do with real things were happening in those times. And where the real struggle took place.
In this chapter Solzhenitsyn describes some events from the western elites or jewish point of view.
Also he presents Stalin as a person who understands a little, makes mistakes frequently, always looking to kill somebody.
It’s very significant that Solzhenitsyn mentions that Stalin died on Purim. This is not a coincidence, cause the murder of Stalin was organized through jewish circles(Kaganovich and his niece, who worked in Kremlin’s hospital). If you know the Bible legend of Esther, that’s how it was explained to jews-executors, in a way that Stalin was preparing massive actions against jews.
I would like to add some facts about Stalin. When he died, in his house were found approximately 10000 books with his personal notes in them. His bodyguard stated that Stalin read 300-500 pages every day. After death all is left 3 costumes, pair of boots, two pair of shoes, 200 rubles. All his salaries he usually gave as premiums to scientists, writers, musicians, cinematographers.
Right!!!
Then why has his last book not been printed in the west?
And how many people do you think were murdered during the sovietization of Russia?
Regarding Stalin, I have to say that nobody who murders anybody earns my admiration, even though I believe he had his reasons.
Also I have googled and not discovered anywhere that Solzhenitsyn is Jewish. This is usually noted somewhere and comes up via google.
Regarding the meaning of his name, living with lies is what he did, and what he wrote about in my opinion.
I will follow this further with another Russian I email with, as I can’t answer you with certainty at all.
Solzhenitsyn’s last book was printed just 5-6 years ago in Russian, not so long ago.
As my information gave back a strong reaction from you, Daphne, I would like to explain some things.
I do not have any sources I can trust who gives numbers of any category of people who were executed or repressed in USSR. I do not have a opportunity to somehow check and find that info in archives. Especially though many documents were destroyed or fabricated.
There is one thing that works very well in dialectics – the way you construct your question – in this way you gonna get your answer. And this question “how many were murdered in the beginning of the Soviet Union?” has a clear purpose(though it was first put to wide information field after WW2). And the logic was simple – victims were too many, so the USSR is a country of murderers and their children. And if it is correct(Solzhenitsyn and many others will confirm it and get Nobel and advertising for it), so there is no need to study processes and experience that took place in USSR. That was a trend after WW2 to give information basis that USSR is a criminal state.
Solzhenitsyn as a mathematician(he studied probability theory on a high level in university) counted his way to “best Russian writer of the century” and followed the trend that was only formated.
When Stalin occupied high post(General Secretary) in 1922 the country was destroyed after WW1 and Civil war, about 70% of the population could not read and wright, there were no industry. And there were no doubts that soon there will be another war. So these were real tasks that were standing in front of the country. You can add problems with atomic bomb after ww2 and once again rebuilding the European part of Russia after WW2. And Russians with the governance of Stalin had managed with these problems. You can’t achieve these results by simply terrorizing the people and sent them to labour camps. And this is positive experience of management, but on a different conception of management, which doesn’t assume existence of the elite(in a western kind of meaning). But the basic principle – everyone can get education on a high level absolutely free. This is a part which Solzhenitsyns don’t mention.
I don’t promise I will read all this review, but I’ll look through it.
I hope I have no bored you, Daphne 🙂
My friend in Russia emailed me back, and his reply was interesting. He said the rumors of Solzhenitzyn being a Jew are quite prevalent, especially on the net but he doesn’t agree with them.
In fact, as an admirer of the man, he also says that Solzhenitzyn does not give attention to the good that Stalin did, just as you do.
Regarding numbers murdered, I think it was good that the west found out about this, though unfortunately many still have no idea. You see, for years we had been taught to be afraid of the “evil empire” that was the Soviet Union. We heard nothing much about killings, though we knew they were destroying the churches. So you could add “godless” to the mix.
But when you know that all this death and destruction was planned and brought into being by “the elites”, it brings great sadness for the countries involved.
And here I put Russia’s deaths in the same category as I do the Chinese with communism’s massive purge there, Ukraine’s forced famine causing massive deaths, Cambodia’s, Rwanda’s… and the list goes on. Goodness, even America’s civil war could be categorised as an “elitist” killing field.
None of this makes the country being destroyed evil.
We can only feel sorrow and outrage and hopefully strive to teach as many as possible the true reasons for war, which is what Dr Farrell has been doing here, in order that we the people do not allow them to do this to us again.
A difficult job to be sure.
Daphne
Here is a link for you to read.
http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres10/WALENDYsolje.pdf
I have always found in my reading of this man that he strives for fairness and correct history.
Konsti
What you’ve written confirms my suspicions in spades. Many may say that you only believe what you want to believe; that, in other words, it aligns with your world viewpoint(as it were). If that’s so, than it’s one that also affirms 9/11 as an inside job, and the worldpress, at large, marches in lock-step with the perpretra(i)tors.
Robert, This is branching off the Russian discussion, but related to ‘bias confirmation’ in viewpoints, esp. re 911 inside job. Here is confirmation from a very credible high level insider, former Dep. Asst. Sec’y of State Dr. Steve Pieczenik. His exposé is a searing indictment of highest level criminal parties involved. I wonder how many lock-step ‘official story’ viewpoints it will change …
10th Anniversary Of The Iraq War SteveTalks.tv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WXXE83S1Os.
Back to Russia: also check out Pieczenik’s youtube channel, esp. ‘Divine Right of Kings’ [where is war criminal haven Barvikha, Russia and who lives there?]
Steve Pieczenik’s mother was a Russian Jew. He is a dual citizen in America. I’m sure he has very useful things to say, but why didn’t he say them ten years ago?
I knew Iraq had no WMD as I made a point of reading everything I could about it. Andrew Wilkie, an Australian high up in Australian Intelligence, which worked closely with US Intelligence, knew there were no WMD and walked out of his job the day before Howard, our PM at the time, announced our involvement in the war. He wrote a book, called “Axis of Deceit”, chronicling what had happened. I bought the book.
So if I knew, and if Intelligence in Australia knew (more importantly) then of course everyone who mattered also knew, but went along “to get along”…
A heartbreaker of a book is one called “A War against Truth” by Paul William Roberts. He was in Iraq with an Iraqi friend from, I think, Oxford, the night the war broke out (Shock & Awe as it was called).
Everyone knew as I see it Margaret. But they went with the plan. Just as they “went with the plan” when 911 happened. We will only get the truth when they’re ready to tell us, and it will only be as much of the truth as they want us to know.
I believe there are already lawsuits against Bush and Blair. For instance:
http://rense.com/general38/belg.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_George_W._Bush
And when Solzhenitsyn finally wrote “200 Years Together”, an historical tome outlining what he believed went wrong enough to cause the tragic revolution, the book is not printed in English.
The elite want us to know only what they allow, and they know they can do what they like regardless.
I get extremely upset by the massive amount of deaths inflicted by the elite in so many countries all over the world and I would love it if Steve Pieczenik’s testimony was useful, but I don’t believe it will be.
Margaret, I have listened to The Divine Right of Kings.
What I hear is that Steve is trying to blame Putin for all the west’s crimes?
I don’t think he likes Putin very much! 🙂
First of all Margaret I want to thank you for another source of information. As you know; indeed, your like me/all information is suspect. However, some sources are higher-grade than others.
I do enjoy this open exchange of information, even though the powers that be, have rebranded the open exchanges of ideas as piracy.
I’ve got these videos on my to-do-list. I listened, in part, to both and liked what I heard(with the above caveat). What I don’t like is the 26 best sellers, the inside track, ect., ect. But where else are you going to even get a hint of an “inside” bona-fide glimpse?
My frame, Margaret, is from a point of view: where publicness threatens institutions, of whose power is invested in control of information & audience. A frame of ending those monopolies of information & the centralized control of it.
These videos look to be of high-quality, and are very slick. Also, from the glimpse I had/information-rich. How high-grade, is another question.
Thanks again for cluing me in.
Robert: Pieczenik was on C2C for 3 hrs Friday (not doofus Noory!) and covered many more more subjects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DIYiJ1Ydl4
On his blog he points readers to this video of ex-CIA agent Robert D. Steele explaining how to delete the elite … organized bloggers will replace dysfunctional msm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLr8ZvgURg0
Daphne: Thanks for your comments … only the most gullible believed in the administration’s WMD lies! Why Pieczenik waited so long? I think it may be because his voice would not have been heard among the myriad post-911 ‘conspiracy theories’ and official propaganda, plus time may have been needed to verify his suspicions. There is still enough skepticism about 911 that people are willing to believe an insider’s exposé. Let the criminals be convicted in public opinion as they will never be convicted in law! This is the elitist pathocracy that Thomas Sheridan has begun defining so well.
Re Putin, what I hear is Steve, w/ quite bit of sarcasm, praising Putin as intercessor for US idiocracy and incompetency … I can’t be sure he dislikes Putin, but he likes the US political/military/intelligence kakistocracy even less.
Margaret, if “only the most gullible” believed, then a whole lot of us “went along to get along”. That is even more despicable.
I spoke to a Minister (random – from the phone book – and he basically said that the government must know what it is doing. I think there were many gullible. The other option is even worse.
I hear you about Pieczenik, but I”m not convinced. Is he jumping ship?
And do we really need more hate talk about Putin and Russia generally?
For me he’s not as believable as, say, Dr Paul Craig Roberts. But I may be wrong. He may be genuine. And I hope so. 🙂
However, I do love this attitude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vDh0Cvsw9Jk#!
It made me laugh out loud!
Then this site would say it’s all distractions…
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/20/304416/russian-med-fleet-warning-to-israel/
Daphne, I like Charles Veitch; he’s bold and fearless 😉 Have you seen the [gone viral] video of acts of kindness caught on Russian dash cams? Heartwarming, healing, humbling!
‘Positive compilation of Russian dash cams’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGEiA80ZL08
I haven’t heard of Charles Veitch Margaret, but will look him up.
And I hadn’t seen that video. Thank you! 🙂
It was Veitch’s ‘Love Police’ video you posted above. He has a youtube channel. If you like that one you’ll probably like his others … he’s a master at using mockery to break boundaries and expose the absurd.
My apologies Margaret. I just didn’t know his name!!!
So I watched another couple of videos.
I like his master of mockery too.
However, is sent the Love Police video around and my strong Presbyterian cousin was NOT impressed. He has absolutely no concept of what’s going on in America.
He thinks he’s a loving person (and in many ways he is) but is anti-Muslim and believes totally in Israel’s goodness at the expense of the truth we see regarding Palestine.
So… my idea of “funny” is not necessarily everyone else’s! 🙁
Well, if there really is some kind of tiff between the CIA and the zionists, maybe Netanyahu is trying to score some points with Putin by throwing him a bone. In this case– outing a CIA asset working in Putin’s Cabinet. I notice another CIA agent was apprehended in Moscow the other day as well.
I also read a blurb recently about ex-KGB agents involved in the Mexican and South American drug trade. If we are talking about something other than Russian jewish mafia, then I think we may have one more global player to contend with along with the Nazi International, yakuza, etc. How about a Russian Breakaway Civilization?
Frankie, you keep throwing curveballs. Wonderful. You “force” me to expand my thinking. Daphne