REMEMBER THAT LITTLE “PROBLEM” WITH GERMANY’S GOLD? ...

Over the past two days I've been writing about the story of the problems of repatriating Germany's gold. You'll recall that I've argued that one cannot understand current secrecy and obfuscation concerning this issue, without an understanding of the history and hidden system of finance behind it, and the covert arrangements that were put into place during and after World War Two by the highest echelons of the Allied and Axis elites to implement that system.

I've suggested, in those blogs, that pulling on the golden Ariadne's thread of Germany's bullion reserves was a thread that would lead all the way through the labyrinth to the beast at the heart of it all, and the institutions and families supporting it.

In that respect, one should consider this news, kindly shared with me by Mr. T.M.:

Did US Intell Help Smuggle Hitler to South America?

Now, for readers unaware of it, Jerome Corsi is somewhat of a "fixture" in the alternative research community, and a well-respected researcher. I just read Mr. Corsi's book concerning the survival of Adolf and Eva Hitler from the war, and  I concur in the main with the summary of its arguments:

"Corsi brings to light many troubling questions, including:

  • Why were the Americans unable to obtain physical evidence of Hitler’s remains after the Russians absconded with his body?
  • Why did both Stalin and Eisenhower doubt Hitler’s demise?
  • Why did nobody in Hitler’s bunker hear any shots fired?
  • Did U.S. intelligence agents in Europe, including the OSS and Allen Dulles (who later headed the CIA under President Eisenhower), aid Hitler’s escape, as they did with so many other Nazis?
  • Argentinean media reported Hitler arrived in the country and it continued to report his presence. Why have the findings not made it to the US?"

Indeed, as I have pointed out in The Nazi International and other books, Argentina is the forgotten World War Two belligerent, and its perspective on postwar events is all but ignored in mainstream Western Media.  (Consider: that curious Eisenhower "disappearance" in 1954 folks that so many in ufology think was to talk to "ETs" at a certain US Air Force base, or was he really just visiting a certain hotel cum-plastic surgery clinic in Argentina, as the Argentines maintain?) Its role and perspectives are signally important to a proper understanding of postwar history, including the persistent stories, since the end of the war, of Hitler's presence in and around San Carlos di Bariloche and the Rio Negro province.

But the reasons for that malign presence are even more significant, and the article strongly suggests them:

"(Corsi) presents documentary evidence Allen Dulles’ wartime mission in Switzerland included helping Martin Bormann, Hitler’s secretary, to funnel billions of dollars of Nazi ill-gotten financial gain out of Germany and invest in the U.S. and Argentinian stock markets to provide a financial cushion to survive in hiding after the war."

Well, this is the argument that I and other researchers have been making as well. But it would appear Mr. Corsi has added a new factor to consideration: namely, the exchange of a postwar hideout and non-prosecution for war crimes to Herr und Frau Hitler, in return for access to that vast pile of plunder the Nazis had looted from occupied Europe.

Pulling on that golden Ariadne's thread of German bullion reserves thus inevitably invokes the dirty deals done between the corporate elite of the American and German "military industrial complexes", and that leads ultimately to the implied dirty deals some within the Allied (and mostly American) camp made with Martin Bormann, and his boss. And it recalls some observations I made in The Nazi International: the German armed forces surrendered, and that could be taken to mean Germany did. But no one was present at either the Rheims or Berlin ceremonies signing for the Reich government itself, nor for the Nazi Party. It is a curious omission that, in the wider context of secret financial and intelligence deals and postwar Nazi "fusion" experiments in Argentina, make one wonder if that omission was not intentional. What was it that he said? Oh yea: "There will never again occur a November 1918 in German history," and "I have never known the word 'surrender.'"

And of all the people able to point a very aware and knowing finger at complicit American corporations and families that helped him and his regime into power, and of all the people that knew where he had instructed his lackey Bormann to "bury his treasure," it was Adolf Hitler.  He and Bormann both knew of the depth of the deal struck with US General Siebert, and OSS station chief Allen Dulles, whose brother, John Foster, was Eisenhower's secretary of State.

See you on the flip side.

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

55 Comments

  1. DEBRA on January 20, 2014 at 11:50 am

    Alasdair Macleod, a former stockbroker, now financial analyst, pulls no punches in his speculation of just where is Germany’s gold! He says the evidence shows that London and Wall Street leased this all out to Asia. Most of it has been converted to jewelry. Germany will never get the original gold back. He also has a lot to say about Deutsche Bank’s sudden decision last week to give up its seat at the London gold-price-fixing table. The blog link below is worth printing out for future reference.

    Mr. Macleod tweeted this: @MacleodFinance : Jan 18

    “Deutsche Bk withdrawing from gold fix confirms case to answer to BAFIN. This is very serious. Therefore other BBs [bullion banks] implicated.”

    And blogged this:

    Quote: “Timing for a schism between central banks over gold could hardly be worse for them. Evidence has been accumulating at an accelerating pace in 2013 of the large scale of leasing transactions by Western central banks, potentially leaving them with very little monetary gold in their vaults. Asian buyers have turned an estimated eighty per cent of this gold into jewellery, and it cannot be returned. Indeed, the circumstantial evidence suggests that with or without the Bundesbank’s knowledge, this may have been the fate of Germany’s gold.”

    http://www.financeandeconomics.org/the-bafin-enquiry-into-deutsche-bank/



  2. amunaor on January 15, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    Beautiful 3-hitter Joseph!

    I do believe you’ve splayed the golden pinata wide open. Now all that’s needed is a little gust of wind to distribute the odious baubles for all to breathe.



  3. yankee phil on January 15, 2014 at 3:31 am

    Before I forget,since Holland is mentioned here,prince hendrik(queen Willamina’s husband) brought the keizer to holland after WW I and then brought admiral donitz to design and build the type 7 U-boat for germany(2 prototypes) in 1923. This was a violation of the treaty of versaille and a war crime. Hitler was chasin homo’s in jail at the time(or being chased) so he had no involvement in it at this point in time. WW II was in the planning by the royal houses before fascism had taken hold it seems. Pour gasoline on that and I’ll bet it goes nuclear.



    • yankee phil on January 15, 2014 at 3:39 am

      Please forgive the repetition as my computer went off line as I tried to post so I reentered this comment,sorry,please delete one if you wish(or both if its not suitable for your site). thank you



  4. yankee phil on January 15, 2014 at 3:17 am

    One other thing I forgot to mention as I see holland mentioned here,the dutch prince hendrik(Queen Willamina’s husband) brought the keizer to holland, then helped bring admiral donitz along to help design and build the german type 7 U-boat in holland(2 prototypes) in 1923, in violation of the treaty of versaille and a war crime at that. Remember hitler was chasin homo’s in prison at this time(or being chased) so this was not his doing. It appears germany was preparing for WW II before hitler had any power. Throw some gasoline on that and I’ll bet it goes nuclear.



  5. yankee phil on January 15, 2014 at 3:04 am

    Don’t forget that a hitler double was left behind in the bunker,shot in the mouth and dressed in hitlers uniform. The Russians thought it was actually Hitler for a while till experts examined the body and found it was one of his known doubles. I saw a picture of this double with the gunshot face and wondered at the time why would they leave the double’s body at the bunker knowing on examination the fake would be easily discovered. Here’s the sunoco 260 speculation,hitlers people were stalling the russians for escape time,the 17 kilometers of tunnel system running under berlin connected to the bunker would be discovered rather soon and anything to slow the discovery process was used,even killing one of hitlers protectors,perhaps a sacrifice he willingly made since his job was to take a bullet for him in the first place.



  6. NoGreyAliens on January 14, 2014 at 7:53 pm


  7. BetelgeuseT-1 on January 14, 2014 at 12:39 am

    Looks like the old Royal Dutch family connections to Argentina have been kept alive as well.
    Prince Bernhard’s grandson, current King Willem Alexander, is married to…………….an Argentinian. Of all the women in the world, he had to marry a woman from Argentinian descent.
    How convenient, to carry a bit of loot between the two countries in the royal plane.



    • LSM on January 14, 2014 at 9:16 am

      I’m glad you noticed this too Betelgeuse



    • yankee phil on January 16, 2014 at 1:33 am

      Betelgeuse, Maxima is a not so distant cousin through bernhards besterveld side of the family (cousins of the keizer)that immigrated to argentina in the 19th century. Many european royal family’s have settlements in south america with relatives there who bought huge tracks of land and political influence. The keizer’s family was always there in one form or another as are many of the other royal houses in europe and asia,you think it was the SS that figuared it was a good place to hide ?,no my friend,they were brought there by a formerly established royal safe haven from the turmoils of european life and responsibilities.



      • BetelgeuseT-1 on January 18, 2014 at 7:54 pm

        Thanks for the info yakee phil. Was not aware of the distant cousin connection. Then, have not really looked into the background of Maxima.
        But you’ve certainly confirmed my suspicions.



        • BetelgeuseT-1 on January 18, 2014 at 8:06 pm

          Having looked up a Wikepedia article on the princess, I can not believe what a “Dutch” looking face she has.
          She could have been born in Volendam for all we know….



  8. Reno on January 13, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    Well what did the ruskies do with Hitler’s body anyway? Why didn’t they offer it to the world?



  9. Reno on January 13, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    Remember Henry Makow wrote an article “was Hitler a British agent’. He probably wasn’t the first to think along those lines. This line of thought seems more intriguing than that of Hitler sightings in Bariloche along with the infamous Nazi sasquatch Borman. Hitler’s end though reminds me a lot of “Phish”; no not the band but Osama.



    • LSM on January 14, 2014 at 9:27 am

      “Remember Henry Makow wrote an article “was Hitler a British agent’. He probably wasn’t the first to think along those lines”- yes, I rember reading it- Greg Hallett wrote a whole thick book on this very subject probably before Makow and the whole plethora of fake-named ghostwriters on his website ever came up with the idea- Hallett did not source Makow- I don’t remember Makow’s sources anymore but did he source Hallett?



  10. Aridzonan_13 on January 13, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    During Reagan’s last term in office, I went to see an associate in Tampa FL. He was starting up a few businesses and asked if I wanted to be part of his organization. We had met in NOLA, both of us were US Army Reservists. Upon going to Tampa. I discovered what he was doing.. He was moving US companies overseas. His money man was an international barrister that practiced law in the Bahamas and went by the name of Duke. And this was his story. Duke was a 1st generation, his parents had immigrated from Germany. However, whilst attending his grandmother’s funeral in the Fatterland, he was inducted into the Wermacht. He had great test scores so he was assigned to the “SS”. During the later part of the war, he took his SS Co, robbed a bank and headed to Switzerland. Years later back in the US his old alma mater contacted him and said, that he you never leave the club. And so, he alleged he was offshoring US co.s at the behest of his Nazi bretheren. Where, later they were to get tax write offs. The sad part was, they were doing nothing illegal. It became all the rage.. Remember Globalization? Duke asked me if I wanted to be a US Marshall. He said he could get me in. I graciously declined and returned to NOLA. Jim Willie said the reason he lives in Central America is due to death threats he received after exposing former Nazi influence in high finance.. Their ilk is still lurking about. And let’s not forget Operation High Jump to point us in that direction..



    • Sagnacity on January 13, 2014 at 10:13 pm

      Aridzonan_13:

      Look at all those Nazis surrounding Reagan, then events of Sept 11 of a different year likely get Nazis riled up at the USA. Ayn Rand sure has her super man worship fetish, whom did Reagan appoint to run the Federal Reserve again?



      • LSM on January 14, 2014 at 9:13 am

        not to mention Reagan’s visit to Germany when/where he paid tribute at a cemetery in Bitburg to fallen WW11 German soldiers- remember that one?- it raised a lot of eyebrows back then but didn’t seem to open anyone’s eyes



  11. DEBRA on January 13, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    On the 21st Century Wire site today, a story and video interview that Patrick Henningsen did with author Gerrard Williams in June 2013 has been trending. Williams is the author of book and film “Grey Wolf,” about Hitler and Bormann and the whole gang of thugs in Argentina. Williams is very bold in linking IBM, ITT and Ford Motor Co. to the Nazi war effort. He even talks about the lawsuit that ITT and Ford won against the US government when American forces accidentally bombed Ford’s truck factory in Germany. Imagine an American officer confusing a factory spitting out trucks to help kill Allied troops as an “enemy” site … couldn’t he see the Ford logo waving on the corporate flag? pffffttt.

    Good little video:
    http://youtu.be/X1NuHKSiF48

    And the source page:
    http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/06/30/hitler-fled-to-argentina-full-interview-with-gerrard-williams-on-21st-century-wire-tv/



  12. Robert Barricklow on January 13, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    I’ve read three of Corsi’s books: The Great Oil Conspiracy revolving around Nazis & abiotic oil, America For Sale, and Black Gold Stranglrhold. He was part of the World News Ntework(or something like that) where I read up on some of his latest article. Like all sources, the reader must separate truth/lies/ mis & dis information. That should be considered a given. Who in their right mind believes everything in print? Most authors give due diligence. Some though are paid hacks. Some purposely distort. Some believe they are on to something, but have been fed a crock of bull. Most at this site know better than to believe; they think critically and investigate sources. We here are, I like to think outside the proverbial box. Sort of in the spirit of Einstein’s, If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?
    In much of my reading I find that the more one looks at Hitler the more the myths evaporate, including his disappearance. One I read, that was particularly convioncing, was that he & Eva were on some Indonnesian small island(both dead).
    The template for “deaths” that are public illusions has been around for some time. In a recent Max Keiser show Tracy refers to Ken Lay living in Patagonia, or some Caribbean island in a metter of fact off hand remark(with a like DA! attitude about it ).
    In this theatre of the absurd stage that we all are part of, it seems to come with the territory. Like when you watch a Disney DVD and see that your in a territory/not the USA, or some sovereign entity. So Hitler is a great personification in so many ways, including the money. For he had a Lincoln man as his money man. a greenback kind a guy. A kind of guy they want dead & buried.
    The Fascism was not defeated. In fact, it looks the have evolved, and is currently on steroids.



  13. chime on January 13, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    I would recommend Peter Levenda’s recent book “Ratline”. He presents information that Hitler and Eva did make it to Argentina, but moved on to a small island, Sumbawa, in Indonesia. Yes, Indonesia. You might be surprised how “Nazi” it was. He thinks Hitler lived his life out there and eventually married a local after Eva left. She possibly went back to Germany when her father died.

    In an interview on The Byte Show, Peter mentioned that after he published the book he was contacted by an individual that claims he has more information in support of Hitler going to Indonesia. Peter is in the process of following up on that lead.



    • Robert Barricklow on January 13, 2014 at 3:17 pm

      Your author’s source for Hitler was the one on the tip of my tongue. I knew his first name and his last had a lev in it. I googled that, grimoire & witch but didn’t get it. It bugged me. Then I was your post and that was a good suprise. I listened as well, on another radio show about this subject & thought he had it nailed down better than any others I had read or heard.
      Thanks for your post chime.
      Serendipitously chimed into to my quest for Peter Levenda. Good to see he is still following it up. Who knows where that might lead.



      • Margaret on January 13, 2014 at 7:55 pm

        Hi Chime and RB,
        Exactly where I was going. The Indonesian angle is intriguing. Hitler and Eva Braun supposedly took on the identities of Austrians Georg Anton and Hella Poch and, using passports arranged for by the Vatican, arrived in Surabaya in 1954. ‘Hella’ (or Helena) went back to Germany and GA stayed, working as a doctor at the local general hospital. Prior to marrying a local woman Poch converted to Islam in ‘64 and became a citizen of Indonesia. He died there in January 1970 and is buried in the local cemetery. Peter Levenda said that the man who showed him the tombstone whispered “Hitler” to him, so it is still believed by the locals.
        See more here, the original is Indonesian but this link is for the English website translator version: Adolf Hitler in Islam and the Dead in Indonesia
        http://urlin.it/56571
        As to a pre-existing Nazi legacy in Indonesia, Levenda commented on another blog that one of Hitler’s close friends, Walter Hewel, had lived in Indonesia, was known as ‘Surabaya Wally’ and had set up the Nazi party apparatus on Java in the ‘20s.
        http://kandbabroad.wordpress.com/2013/07/21/hitler-in-indonesia/
        There are plenty of Levenda’s interviews on youtube and a C2C archive from a 5/13/12 show w/ Ian Punnett … just not enough hours in the day 😉



        • Margaret on January 14, 2014 at 2:58 am

          ( @ LSM, sorry, this is out of order, but I couldn’t find a good spot for it under your post below)

          Were there quadruplicate Hitlers? … one in the Berlin bunker, one living in Canada at Glacier Nat’l Park (as William Coates), one living in Indonesia (as Georg Anton Poch), and the most probable one living in Argentina. Harry Cooper wrote about the latter in ‘Escape from the Bunker’. His interview on Rense is accompanied by many interesting photos: http://www.rense.com/general95/escapefromthebunker.html .
          The book is available free at archive.org.
          BTW, I’m wondering if the Nicoloff you’re looking for is this one: http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm.
          Also look in the Otto Skorzeny section at your link.
          What could have been the purpose of having so many ‘red herrings’, if indeed they were deliberate distractions, or maybe they were just opportunistic sensationalism by others …



          • LSM on January 15, 2014 at 7:09 am

            hey, Margaret, hope this finds you well-

            I devoured the Levenda book- and, yes, that’s the Nicoloff about whom I stated-

            and according Nicoloff’s former website, Obama is of the seed of the disappeared Michael Rockefeller in Papua New Guinea in 1960 (!)- but a possible mother was not mentioned- am not saying I believe this (yet)- am just stating what Nicoloff has stated- I have no opinion (yet) one way or another- but it’s just such a crazy world of lies and deception out there- I wouldn’t rule out anything (yet)-

            Larry 🙂



          • terminally skeptical on January 15, 2014 at 9:15 am

            Larry I’m guessing that you and I both came to the awareness of Don Nicoloff through Ken Adachi.

            That Nazi contingency he professes, Bush family and all, is pretty wild stuff. Looks like we’re (you and I) are keeping an open mind until you/I have enough information to definitively dismiss his treatise.

            What do you make of Adachi and his allegation that Fukushima is a bogus ruse perpetuated by a blend of well meaning though ill informed NWO shills?

            Mike Adams, “The Health Ranger” is founding a radioactivity testing laboratory where aquatic samples will be checked for radioactive isotopes (mostly cesium) to ascertain type of and concentration of contamination in the increasing numbers of fish awash along the U.S. Pacific coast. That will be most useful and also address whether there is truth to the rumors that these species and also the heightened atmospheric radioactivity over land is due to oceanic nuclear dumping and depleted uranium aerosolized into the chemtrails.

            BTW, I sent you a belated reply a few days ago on the Soviet bombings thread summarily stating that my best information info was that JDR was protestant.



    • Frankie Calcutta on January 13, 2014 at 4:49 pm

      The fate of Hitler truly is the riddle of the Century. The thought of him sitting on a beach in Indonesia sipping a cool drink out of a coconut shell while being attended to by his young native bride would probably infuriate half the world. The other half might not even know who he is or else just laugh at the absurdity of it all and the corruption humanity is so hopelessly mired in. I imagine Hitler is bitter over his defeat and endlessly guilty for sneaking out of the bunker and Germany and not doing the heroic “German” thing and going down in a hail of commie bullets with pistol in hand and his teutonic uber woman by his side. I’m sure the coconut drinks will always be bitter no matter how sweet the nectar is. Pete Townsend summed up the unhappy little Austrian housepainter turned evil German dictator best in his great rock ballad:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z5Tq56gZ00

      I think the Fuhrer and Leni Riefistahl would begrudgingly concede the Who could rock a stadium and move a crowd like no others.

      “Behind Blue Eyes”

      No one knows what it’s like
      To be the bad man
      To be the sad man
      Behind blue eyes

      No one knows what it’s like
      To be hated
      To be fated
      To telling only lies

      But my dreams
      They aren’t as empty
      As my conscience seems to be

      I have hours, only lonely
      My love is vengeance
      That’s never free

      No one knows what it’s like
      To feel these feelings
      Like I do
      And I blame you

      No one bites back as hard
      On their anger
      None of my pain and woe
      Can show through

      But my dreams
      They aren’t as empty
      As my conscience seems to be

      I have hours, only lonely
      My love is vengeance
      That’s never free

      When my fist clenches, crack it open
      Before I use it and lose my cool
      When I smile, tell me some bad news
      Before I laugh and act like a fool

      If I swallow anything evil
      Put your finger down my throat
      If I shiver, please give me a blanket
      Keep me warm, let me wear your coat

      No one knows what it’s like
      To be the bad man
      To be the sad man
      Behind blue eyes



      • Sagnacity on January 13, 2014 at 6:02 pm

        FC:

        So it’s clear you haven’t read the Levenda book, instead projecting your teen prurience into the story.



        • Frankie Calcutta on January 13, 2014 at 6:32 pm

          Sag,

          you are really lashing out. I know you feel scared and alone at this moment, but you are among friends. Tell us what is bothering you. We’ll listen. Just let it out. Sometimes talking (or writing) about your problems can do you a world of good. In the meantime, listen to this wonderful song:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gikGLzkKElw

          It is how I feel about you right now. After, have a good cry. Maybe punch some pillows. Then tomorrow, lets touch base about your problems, when you feel better and more open to healing.



          • Sagnacity on January 13, 2014 at 10:17 pm

            FC:

            I guess the story does include Hitler marrying some woman in her 20s after Eva Braun returned to Germany in the mid 1960s. But not your image.



      • jedi on January 14, 2014 at 6:29 am

        Frankie you might enjoy hollywoods latest offering, The Butler, knowing Jacks sympathies for AH, there is a revealing exchange between Robert and the “Butler”….right before the “incident”.



        • Frankie Calcutta on January 15, 2014 at 11:05 am

          Jedi,

          I put it on my list. I’d like to hear what the butler had to say when Jack allegedly spent a day in the Whitehouse experimenting with some LSD one of his girlfriends gave him.



    • MizGreen on January 14, 2014 at 9:34 am

      Thanks chime for bringing up Peter Levenda’s name. I haven’t read Ratline yet, but I did see a quick vid he made to promote it. He suggests that Hitler’s final home was Surabaya Indonesia, which had notable connections. Can I post his short video here?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BegchXuiL9A
      (One humorous note, at about 1:16 in the video Levenda has to contend with a heckler of sorts, which he handles with admirable aplomb :))

      Also, FrankieC mentioned Eva Peron, and it had never occurred to me how this ‘cult of personality’ icon might have felt about the ‘other’ Eva. Fascinating thought ! Wasn’t there was a strange story circulating a few years ago about Evita having been given a lobotomy in her late years? And the way her corpse was plasticized and paraded around — nothing’s too creepy for these folks.



  14. Frankie Calcutta on January 13, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    It would be hard to believe Eva Peron could keep such a secret. The Peron’s would have been forced to play second fiddle to Argentina’s real first couple, the Hitlers. Equally infuriating is that Eva Peron would have been embarrassingly relegated to being the “other Eva.” Maybe that is she why preferred being called Evita to distinguish her from the other powerful Eva in Argentina. I can only imagine the jealousy. I think a new broadway show is in order. I did have a friend who swears Adolf Hitler once loaded him onto a chairlift while on a ski vacation in Argentina many decades ago.

    My guess is Hitler re-settled in Israel taking advantage of the Right of Return and his Austrian Rothschild bloodline. While on the surface, Hitler would appear a monster to the rank and file jew, for the ardent zionists and the Babylonian elite who hide behind judaism, Hitler is the real father of Israel and the nation’s greatest hero. I always suspected among that bloodline that there was an unwritten rule that hereditary agents of the master plan were always rescued from death when possible and allowed a safe retirement, despite whatever role they may have been playing to serve the cause.

    I imagine an aging Hitler selling artwork from a small boutique in Tel Aviv or possibly serving as a priest or monk in one of the Holy Land’s many Christian Churches or monasteries. Who knows, maybe Hitler finally got his wish of being an architect and was allowed to design the Israeli Supreme Court? And dear Eva, the shiksa, spent her days frolicking in the Sun on one of Israel’s many stolen beaches and at night doing charity work for holocaust survivors, maybe teaching them yoga or old German folk dances.



    • jedi on January 13, 2014 at 2:58 pm

      The most embarrassing plot on Eva would be after her death with the overated midget Madge playing her on the silver screen.



  15. bdw000 on January 13, 2014 at 1:39 pm

    For those looking for some light reading (I agree with one comment below that it does not really matter to us if Hitler survived or not: it seems likely that some remnant of the Nazi’s did survive).

    For anyone interested, the best book I ever found about Hitler surviving the bunker was HITLER’S ESCAPE by Ron T. Hansic.

    It is a short book, but lays down in all the details how all the “evidence” for Hitler’s death is completely unreliable. The US and USSR’s claims of having proof of Hitler’s death can be shown to be deliberate lies (they did not have the evidence to support the claim). The sum total of all the evidence is simply that some (very loyal) Nazi’s claim that Hitler died in the bunker. That’s it. This is not proof that Hitler actually did survive of course. But you have to wonder, why did they lie? The most likely scenario is that they lied because they did not want people to know that Hitler did indeed survive.

    For those interested in the TOTALLY unverifiable, my favorite books about the Nazi’s are the GESTAPO CHIEF series (3 volumes) by Gregory Douglas. There was also a 4th book starting a new series, but that seems to be the last one published. Claims to be written from the diaries of the guy who ran the Gestapo. While I claim no way at all in which to verify anything in the book, all I can say is, as someone who has read quite a bit about WWII, I get the feeling this is the real deal. So much about WWII is obviously fiction, and this book does not have that feel to it. Could still be pure fiction of course.

    These books were “debunked” by the (in)fammous revisionist outfit the IHR. And yet, the debunking of the debunking was one of the most convincing articles I have ever read, which means that if I had to guess (please note the word), I’d say Gestapo Mueller really is talking to us from his diaries here And no, that was not his nickname because he was such a fiend and everyone was terrified of him: there were two Generals with the same rank and same last name, so that was the way people distinguished which guy they were talking about. “Hey you, call General Mueller.” “Which one?” “Gestapo Mueller.”

    Anyway, these books are highly recommended for anyone interested in Nazi Germany. Did I mention that a lot of the first book at least concerns Mueller’s 1948 job interview with the CIA!! (He was hired).

    Read so me of the “positive” reviews at amazon (iirc most call it fiction). There used to be some very interesting reviews there.

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_13/180-5323202-1054134?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=gestapo%20chief&sprefix=gestapo+chief%2Caps%2C250

    http://www.amazon.com/Muller-Journals-1948-1950-Washington-Years/dp/0912138793/ref=sr_1_15?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1389645268&sr=1-15



    • bdw000 on January 13, 2014 at 1:43 pm

      I should mention that this “Gregory Douglas” guy is a shady character. But again, the article responding to the IHR debunking explains it all, and it is quite convincing.



  16. DownunderET on January 13, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    If Herr Hitler did make it out of Germany, I don’t believe it makes all that much of a difference to history. It was Bormann who was pulling the strings, and jumped into bed with the banksters.

    Fast forward to today, and Frau Merkel is wearing the pants in Germany, and just as Bormann intended, Germany is dominating the European heartland. The gold Germany thought they had tucked away in the New York Fed, has skipped town, and as Joseph has said, Germany wanting it’s gold back was a sign of divorce. Bormann may have trusted the Anglo-American banking cartel, but today it’s a different story.



  17. marcos toledo on January 13, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    Despite fact Corsi maybe a dodgy investigator we have no definitive proof either Adolf or Eva death. If Martin and Hans skip town maybe Josef and Magna as well. All we have for the last two is burned bodies as for their children there was more than enough bodies to go around at the end of the war to substitute for them. If Josef survived who knows what media empire he might have created. That is still poisoning minds around the world.



  18. LSM on January 13, 2014 at 10:52 am

    a lot of wild and woolly stuff out there regarding AH’s escape; here’s the wildest and woolliest you could possibly imagine; if you have the time/interest to clink on and read the following link you might want to slug a few stiff drinks beforehand (Don Nicoloff’s website seems to have diappeared, by the way, for whatever reason):

    http://educate-yourself.org/lte/willaimcoates05oct11.shtml

    and then there’s Greg Hallett’s version in “Hitler Was a British Agent” in which he states that AH made it no farther than Spain (wasn’t supposed to), died there just a few yrs. after the war and any sighting of him anywhere else was a sighting of one or more of AH’s surviving 6 doubles…!!!- what, 6?!!!-

    honestly, I don’t know what to make Hallett; I think a lot of what he’s stated in this book is most probably true but a lot is just a gross distortion of some things (Hallett’s sources)-

    now I have a really stupid question: after AH divulged all the info squeezed out of him after his escape, why was he allowed to continue to live (after all, dead men don’t talk) unless he continued to fulfill other missions?-

    stay well all-

    Larry in Germany

    P.S. another stupid question: why has Jerome Corsi suddenly switched his attention from exposing Obama’s birth certificate and bringing it to (failed) legal action to AH’s escape?



    • justawhoaman on January 13, 2014 at 11:08 am

      AH isn’t able to take you out of your house in your underwear in the middle of the night and have any meaningful “conversations”. That is MY high octane speculation. The dots connect a plethora of dead writers, former campaign aides, and the like. IMO, Corsi was paid as a misinformant after that and was eventually disregarded as incompetent to the group who still maintain the fraud-in-chief was never eligible to run for let alone be elected to office.



      • LSM on January 13, 2014 at 11:38 am

        Hi whoaman,

        “Corsi was paid as a misinformant after that and was eventually disregarded as incompetent”- the enter Larry Sinclair and his initial ‘revelations’/importance only to fade slowly into the unimportant ethers…

        we’re both off topic now so let’s not continue this discussion on this website



    • Frankie Calcutta on January 13, 2014 at 1:01 pm

      Perhaps with his investigations of Obamma’s birth certificate and now the Hitlers’ escape, Corsi is laying the ground work for an even bigger blockbuster– the tale of a twisted love child conceived in a war bunker below Berlin. Where rubble and corpses served as the camouflage for this subterranean honeymoon suite and the stench of fear, hopelessness, death and despair served as the fragrance for the newlyweds as they conceived their progeny– a progeny who’s sole purpose in life would be to get revenge for the parent’s defeat and humiliation. And once this child was born, after the parents successfully escaped the horrors of collapsing Berlin and were safely ensconced in their idyllic new home in Argentina, the infant was quickly whisked away to the United States to begin immediate grooming for the task at hand– the destruction of her father’s enemies and the resurrection of the Reich!

      So the young child was handed over to Nazi handlers in the United States to be raised in a quaint suburb of Chicago in what would seem like a perfectly normal American girl’s life. But every night she would be instructed, sometimes harshly, what her real job was to be. She was to be her father’s wrath incarnate. And so her education began and it wasn’t long before the wicked and cunning genes of her birth father began to manifest in the daughter and she quickly rose to power– first as a Governor’s wife, later a President’s wife, then a Senator, and then Secretary of State. But her work is far from finished. In fact, it has only just begun. For soon she will hope to claim the Presidency of the United States and thereby finish the desk she was ordained to do– destroy the Republic of the United States and bring back a Nazi Reich.

      Who is this daddy’s little girl that we should all be scared of? Hillary Clinton. And the only way she can be stopped from fulfilling her father’s nightmare vision is to expose her Argentinian birth and her real parents. Maybe this is what Jerome Corsi intends to do, and save the world in the process.



      • justawhoaman on January 13, 2014 at 6:12 pm

        LOL



      • BetelgeuseT-1 on January 14, 2014 at 12:41 am

        It’s like the movie “The Omen”, except more scary…



      • terminally skeptical on January 14, 2014 at 5:45 am

        Wow! Is this inside info between two Corsi cans, you and Jerome?

        BTW, I left you a reply on the Russian Bombing thread,



        • Frankie Calcutta on January 15, 2014 at 11:08 am

          Thanks terminally skeptical. I’m glad you have returned. Your presence was missed.



    • Margaret on January 14, 2014 at 10:51 am

      Hi Larry, These threads are getting so intertwined it’s hard to keep up, but great comments all around. I left you a reply yesterday w/ some links but it’s still in “limbo”, find it under Chime>RB’s post re Levenda’s Ratline. Best regards …



  19. jedi on January 13, 2014 at 10:11 am

    Hitler was a actor that plied across Europe for the elites. They literally goose stepped and laid the golden egg…and then blown to “smith”ereens before they could enjoy the “fruits” of there labor …war.

    Another “mystery” bogey man of the secret societies, a ruse by the murderers, liars and the thieves. They have backed themselves and the rest of us in a corner against China. We have no way of paying back our deficit obligation and I doubt they ever had any intentions of paying it back (we are dealing with bozo hybrids whose strong suit is not intelligence but rather cohesiveness, gluttony, absence of moral guidance and those bonds are easily broken with the right sound waves), and so to settle matters there is “the final solution” card to be played. The War racket. China has been exporting millions of Chinese laborers as a counter measure….and that is the real “space race”….and the hybrids actually helped them do it….unbelievably stupid people
    As soon as ????? pulls the plug on the fiat ponzi printing scams, and that will be when all resources have been squandered on frivolous expenditures to keep the owing “precious” game afloat. Then “they” will put there “man child” in the centralized beasts that have been created…and they will do whatever they want to do, to whoever they want to whenever they want too ie, expect too see Judas hanging from an oak island tree…. Smart and very patient.



    • jedi on January 13, 2014 at 12:52 pm

      looks like the END GAME time line has been moved forward. Indians, ahem, chinese people that were abandoned PRE TIME WARP phase have been awarded 1 million acres in Wyoming by the E.P.A that happens to have non Chinese people ahem non Indians living on it for the last couple of hundred years.
      Gotta make you wonder about those ancient white skeletons they discovered and quietly covered up that have been found in North America….circa 12,000 years ago.
      Couple that with “mass” burial mounds.That sounds like “mass” murder sites where the brainwashed excess slave populations would go for there happy little endings in Pharaohs light boat. Totem poles that look like obelisks, oh and pyramids everywhere…. ….WW2 was just another “mass” murder site, quite successful, but then again we have no clue about actual history and the “group” who carries out these “mass” murders.



  20. terminally skeptical on January 13, 2014 at 7:30 am

    According to Eustace Mullins, Allen Dulles was a scoundrel who was a strong influence behind “Truman’s decision” to drop The Bomb on Japan.

    He was also one of the principals behind the absconding of Japanese pilfered gold in both the Philippines and Indonesia subsequently used to fund post war U.S. covert off budget policies domestic and abroad. Democratic government was obviously not high on his list.

    Small wonder then that his name should resurface when Hitler decided to relocate.

    Regarding Corsi, he has checkered reviews and it makes me wonder if he IMO, like Jim Marrs, has a spotty blend of useful and disinformation.



    • Don B on January 13, 2014 at 8:02 am

      I think your last statement is right on target. Marrs more UFO disinfo.

      db



      • DownunderET on January 13, 2014 at 12:53 pm

        Cant agree with you guys on Jim Marrs. His book “Rule by Secrecy” is in my top five.

        Jim has written about UFO’, but most of his research has been on secret societies, with a little of ancient history thrown in.



  21. Sagnacity on January 13, 2014 at 6:10 am

    No, Corsi is not a well respected researcher, and if he claims something it is usually safe to think the opposite.



    • Joseph P. Farrell on January 13, 2014 at 12:20 pm

      Sag…is your sole function on this website to snipe and nitpick at some detail in EVERY posting I make?



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