HIGH ORBITAL SPACE SPECULATIONS, PART TWO: BILL CLINTON AND ET

Yesterday I began to outline the historical circumstances around the revelation of the New World and the events surrounding the first voyage of Christopher Columbus as a way of studying how the high elite powers of Europe during the late Renaissance orchestrated that revelation, to see how a similar orchestration of the revelation - or to use the oft-over-worked word, "disclosure" - might be orchestrated. This topic has been the subject of discussion within UFOlogy for quite some time, most recently in Mr. Richard Dolan's and Mr. Bryce Zabel's study of the question, A.D.: After Disclosure. Yesterday I observed that the revelation of the New World was an orchestrated, socially engineered event involving four factors:

  1. The existence of hidden knowledge, in this case, the knowledge and covert exploitation of the New World for some time prior to Columbus' 1492 voyage, and the decision to reveal that knowledge when the technological and financial resources were present to fully exploit the New World;
  2. The orchestration of that revelation by careful coordination and inclusion of the main political powers of the day: being the political sphere itself(Ferdinand and Isabella's Spain);
  3. The financial powers (represented by the presence of Genoa in the revelation in the form of the Genoese admiral Columbus himself);
  4. The sanction of the international cultural-religious complex in the form of the Papacy of Giovanni Cybo(Innocent VIII) himself, who in turn has connections to more hidden international powers (sorry folks, you'll have to wait for the book!)

Yesterday, we saw how the Vatican appears to be involved in quiet but intensive study of the extra-terrestrial question, and how in some cases it is reflecting the opinions of the Brookings Report, particularly in its implications of the implied assumption of the moral and technological superiority of ET, a meme often encountered in UFOlogy.

With the above context in mind, consider this video of former President Bill Clinton's appearance on the Jimmy Kimmel show from April 3:

Bill Clinton: An Alien Attack would Unite Us, I INvestigated Area 51

While it is not so strange that such a subject would arise during an entertainment show interviewing a former president - after all, it makes for good laughs and sound bites and plenty of opportunities to roll the laugh track - when one steps back from this and considers the context and timing, it strikes me as rather significant. It occurs in the same month as the Vatican -ET stories, and notably, President Clinton, by no means a stupid man and by every means a carefully calculating one, principally echoed the views of another famous president on the subject of potential "alien invasion," Ronald Reagan(or, as one reader here put it to me, Ronald Raygun).

While all the laugh tracks are rolling, and Clinton and Kimmel are having their fun, the meme is again reinforced and planted: if you knew there were aliens would you tell us? Yes I would, is the response. Those who are aware of Clinton's attempts to investigate the issue through his appointee Webster Hubbel in the Justice Department, will recall that Clinton was basically stymied and stonewalled at every turn. Nonetheless, the ET-Independence Day invasion scenario of President Reagan is repeated: it would be a way to unite the world around a common threat.

What is interesting, when one juxtaposes this with the remarks coming out of the Vatican, is that one detects an interesting dialectic at work, the same dialectic found - albeit subtly to be sure - in the Brookings Report, and cleverly reversed. It is this reversal that tends to make me think we may be observing some clever social engineering taking place before our eyes, for in the Brookings Report, it is the religious reaction that is of great concern, the reaction that would view any ET revelation as hostile. This, it would appear, is being handled by the Vatican and its proxies. On the other side of the dialectic, we have the occasional reminder from politicians that there could be potential hostilities.

Let's turn the clock back a bit. Recall that  in the final years of the Reagan Administration, during meetings between the President and the Soviet Premier, Mr. Gorbachev, there were reports that the two actually discussed the whole ET-invasion-cooperation scenario. What many do not recall is that, at the time, Mr. Gorbachev indicated it was a bit "too early" for such considerations. The standard interpretations of this curious event are simply that the practical Russians thought it absurd, or that, already financially strapped, they were in no position to make any contribution to a system that would break the bank. But there is also another consideration: the statement implies also that there may already be in place secret agreements between various powers on how, and when, such disclosure is to me made. And given the geopolitical situation, commercial opportunities, and so on, that this would involve, it is likely that such agreements would have to be unanimous, and coordinated with an international source of some respect(the papacy once again).

There is another dynamic in the statements of the former President on Kimmel's show. These are not the types of questions that one would simply spring on a president; they would have had to have been approved, both by him, and, in any potential answer, vetted to make sure that no security arrangements were being violated. In other words, Clinton's remarks, while accompanied by smiles and laughs and laugh track, are to be taken seriously. And it is not the first time such serious statements were made in the context of laughs and comedies. Consider these statements of former astronaut and then US Senator John Glenn on the popular sitcom, Frasier:

 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vO4iNhaQms0

Comedy? or actual disclosure? If the latter, it is, like the Kimmel Show, a clever way to do so, by contriving a context where any remarks are considered mere humor.  But again, consider the overall context, three politicians - two Democrats, one Republican - and all three are talking about "War of the Worlds" scenarios, and the former astronaut is doing so on a comedy show. Ronald Reagan did it in contexts considerably more serious: at summit meetings, and at the UN.

So... the political, and the international order represented by the papacy, are talking from more or less the same script, interestingly enough.  So what about the third leg of the stool, the technological and financial?

We'll have to wait until tomorrow.

See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

26 Comments

  1. LSM on May 2, 2014 at 6:06 am

    “(sorry folks, you’ll have to wait for the book!)”-

    ohh, Dr. Farrell, please don’t keep us waiting in ‘expence’ for too long… 🙂

    be well!!!

    Larry



  2. Arne Saknussemm on April 30, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    Here’s a little odd connection that popped up after a quick google – Jacques Tourneur’s film “Berlin Express” has a character, Dr Bernhardt utter “Sometimes I think we will not get together on Earth until we find someone on Mars to hate” shades of Reagan in 1948! Ronald Reagan did appear in a Tourneur film in 1955 -“The Martyr “. Tourneur himself was more horror/noir than scifi so I don’t think there is that much in it though he did make the very excellent “Night of the Demon”



    • 8thdegreeofj on April 30, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      Bravo man, seriously! That is a great connection and while it may have meant nothing to Reagan at the time, he doubt thought of it later when he was moving into the White House and began his own information investigations.



  3. DownunderET on April 30, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Is the Vatican playing games, I don’t think so. For all it’s faults it isn’t stupid, and the Vatican always has agendas as do the elites, so what is actually going on here? My take is that the elites have a plan concerning our cosmic cousins, disclosure, I don’t so in that sense, but just saying they are among us, is just amount to saying they are here. Bill Clinton was fascinated by the subject as exposed by the Rockafailure family getting The Clinton administration to “look into the matter”. That gone stonewalled big time by the black project people in the secret space program which has an iron grip on the subject. Even Richard Dolan has said he didn’t think Disclosure would come in the suspected way, but more by the cousins “exposing” themselves to all. And then don’t forget Dr. Carol Rosen’ exposure of what Werner Von Braun told her. So what do we have here, I’m of the opinion that they will never deliberately disclosure, there is too much at stake from the “energy” point of view, ante gravity is the buzz word, and that’s what they are going to expose, albeit slowly and carefully. Enter the mining of space to follow shortly there after.



    • Wayne D on April 30, 2014 at 2:51 pm

      Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

      I would be very careful of anything the Vatican propones.

      No doubt there were those in Europe at the time who speculated that there was a “new world” to plunder but its acknowledgement
      would have implications of the science of the day.
      Norse discoveries would have been known of by some of the literate.

      So maybe Columbus was just the official acknowledgement.
      Perhaps a secret sorte or two before hand.

      Is there a hidden Quetzalcoatl in all this?



    • Levantine on May 1, 2014 at 3:40 am

      Let me just cite Dr. Carol Rosin’s pertinent claim:

      “Von Braun said “We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie.” […]
      [T]he effort to put weapons into space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate past the point of people even understanding it until it was already up there and too late.”

      – from Carol Rosin’s witness testimony to ‘The Disclosure Project’

      Sources:

      http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1008540/pg2#pid17822878

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ALLUuvsVkM



    • LSM on May 2, 2014 at 6:29 am

      “Is the Vatican playing games”- the Vatican is the inventor of the game; just my own personal cheap opinion but I firmly believe the entity known as ‘Jordan Maxwell’ (alias Russell Pine)is on to something; he has always stated the Vatican is the prime source of the world’s woes; wouldn’t doubt it; now we have present pope Francis beatifying the fraud Pope John Paul II (one needs to read Bill Cooper’s “Behold a Pale Horse” for the background on this cat) who beatified the fraud known as ‘Mother Teresa”…

      “all the world is mad”- anonymous

      Larry



  4. Jon on April 30, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    Another meme portrayed in the Glenn clip is that media people are more worried about their egos and careers than in paying attention and seeing (hearing) what is right in front of them. (“you can’t blame them for missing the obvious, they are just silly, egotistical buffoons”)

    It is kind of a double meme – an illustration of the “slow leak disclosure” process of media use at the same time it could be an actual leak. Some folks do like multi-layered presentations like that.



  5. marcos toledo on April 30, 2014 at 11:28 am

    Was Pope Innocent VIII a Borgia if he were Christopher Columbus would like him a Spaniard. Lets go back to the late 70’s remember Barnard Star was said to have had two gas giant equivalents to Jupiter and Saturn planets orbiting it. It was later said that the astronomer who announce this find telescope was maladjusted and his discovery dismissed. So for how long has we had the technology to detect extra-solar planets The two masks of the theater are comedy and tragedy what is being played on the world stage for us now?



    • DanaThomas on May 1, 2014 at 5:07 am

      His successor was Alexander VI Borgia… perhaps symbolizing the passage from the old naval power (Genoa) to the new one (Spain)…



  6. Robert Barricklow on April 30, 2014 at 8:28 am

    I often wonder who was in the “know/No”. Just those two words express the endemic nature of deception, both sound the same, but it is it’s contact that affects/effects perception. So here we ago again, because Dr. Farrell’s scholarship and deciphering of the “New World” deception, by those with prior knowledge, is correct in my view. The “alien” revelation, no doubt, has a “Deep Knowledge” base, in time & in space. The “there” is there; it then, …comes to the other ?/”When”. Assuming we are talking about a “reality” that is not …”manufactured”(9/11).
    Of course, the motives appear to be(have been) control/power. The mechanisms to achieve these, appear to have been(to be) religion/money. But, are those? just part of the outer/inner rings of truths?
    -As in Philip K Dick’s The Man In The High Castle
    “Truth is as terrible as Death. But harder to Find”.



    • Robert Barricklow on April 30, 2014 at 8:32 am

      P.S.
      Loved the Ronald Raygun!!!



    • Robert Barricklow on April 30, 2014 at 9:46 am

      Of course, I can’t resist using Erza Pound’s quote here:
      “The danger is not that you will be invaded,
      it is that you have been invaded”.



      • jedi on April 30, 2014 at 12:42 pm

        Enter the no know dragon



        • Robert Barricklow on May 1, 2014 at 12:47 pm

          Correct.
          As Lee said when asked, “What is the highest technique you hope to achieve?”
          Lee, “To have no technique.”



          • jedi on May 1, 2014 at 2:24 pm

            insanity is the disadvantage.



          • Robert Barricklow on May 1, 2014 at 3:34 pm

            Well put.



  7. basta on April 30, 2014 at 8:14 am

    Given that the US Empire is showing very serious strains and pushback, and that the underlying US and indeed world economy is fubared and running on fiat fumes, this might just be the perfect time for TPBT to play the “ET is here” card and save their globalist project from collapse.

    The Vatican handles the social-engineering end and the US gets to roll out all its hidden toys and play on paranoia for even greater control. Win-win (for them).



  8. Eddie on April 30, 2014 at 8:03 am

    It’s a common suggestion here as well as in Richard Hoagland’s site that the “elites” acclimatize the masses to ideas such as ET (or whatever) through the medium of sit-coms or children’s programs or even Viewmaster reels. Cf. Tom Corbett, as referenced on the Enterprise Mission.
    Is there any factual support for this notion? It seems preposterous on its face, and all-too easy to invoke without much evidence. There is such a volume of silliness on television which is purely the product of writers heeding the need to fill time that the notion of a hidden agenda in ephemera such as an episode of Frazier is difficult to credit.



  9. Luso on April 30, 2014 at 7:49 am

    Dr. Farrell, I believe you should reconsider the Genovese origin or connection of Columbus. I will not disagree with you on your general assumption, but I think that you should not (or need not) use the “italian” connection represented by Columbus as it may be proven false, as you may be able to find out with proper research on the matter. I respectfully ask you to revise the matter so that a rather minor issue may not weaken your work.
    There are diferente theories regarding Columbus, and I would bet that the genovese link is the weakest of them all.
    Maybe you should reasearch more the following themes “Maps, Templars and Order of Christ, Jews, King John II´s foreign policy and strategy, but probably more the Ancient Maps/Ancient knowledge – Templars/Order of Christ. That would fit a lot better in your main “ancient advanced civilization” quest.



    • jedi on April 30, 2014 at 9:05 am

      Pyramids engineers used same measuring system.

      A sppoon full of sugar makes the fluoride go down.



    • Solfeggio on April 30, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      You did notice he omitted intentionally in this post an important group that is is to be exposited in his book, with connections to Innocent III? Hmm…



      • Solfeggio on April 30, 2014 at 9:21 pm

        VIII



  10. DanaThomas on April 30, 2014 at 6:46 am

    Ah yes Innocent VIII, the Genoese gentleman who got a hefty payment (and an alleged piece of the “holy lance”) to imprison the Turkish sultan’s rebel (today they would say “terrorist”!) brother in the Vatican…



  11. CRISTIAN on April 30, 2014 at 5:17 am

    500 years ago the catholic church will almost kill you if talk about other worlds.now they are searching ET.what irony



    • LSM on May 2, 2014 at 6:09 am

      touchè!- be well- Larry



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