IMPRESSIONS OF THE SECRET SPACE PROGRAM/BREAKAWAY CIVILIZATION ...
Many of you have written requesting my thoughts and impressions of the Secret Space Program conference at which I had the honor of being invited to speak. The speakers' rostrum included Mark McAndlish, Michael Schratt, Dr. Carol Rosin, former Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (during the Administration of G.H.W. Bush), Catherine Austin Fitts, Richard Dolan, and Robert Morningstar. Notwithstanding some technical glitches, one of which was beyond the control of the conference organizers and which could be ascribed to lack of speaker preparation, the conference was a beginning in what most of the speakers agreed upon prior to the conference should be a clear goal: to remake the conference culture, and direct it away from the parade of goofiness that such conferences often become, into a more sober atmosphere where serious issues can be addressed in a serious fashion, sans the usual "story-telling" and "evangelistic tent meeting" atmosphere that often prevails at such events.
To this end, the conference organizer, Mr. Jeroen van Stratten of the Netherlands, did a superb job organizing the order in which the speakers spoke, and I can confidently say that the speakers, who did not consult with each other over the contents of their presentations, played off of each other remarkably well. Mark McAndlish and Michael Schratt both gave excellent presentations covering a variety of technical and technological issues regarding hidden technologies and their implications for the possibilities of a secret space program, and Secretary Fitts added some crucial insights on the emerging financial structure of the West. Richard Dolan and Dr. Carol Rosin rounded out the presentation with historical and political perspectives. All in all, it was an effort to "reverse engineer" some aspects of the policy-formation culture that might be at work in the upper echelons of the black projects world, and in that, I think the conference as generally successful.
One unique feature of this conference was that it was agreed by both the speakers and organizers to have a pre-conference and post-conference get together with each other to go over details, and to critique the event and learn from mistakes in order to avoid them at any future event. This I found to be particularly helpful.
During our conference post-mortem, three major areas were addressed: the need to cut down or eliminate the "preachification" tendency so often in evidence at such conferences during (1) the open panel discussions and (2) audience Q & A sessions. Most were in agreement that this tendency, evident in this conference as well, had to be dealt with and means were proposed for doing so that, if implemented at future events, will work effectively. This point was driven home to us by the fact that during the open mic Q & A sessions, almost have of the audience got up and left, being uninterested in hearing people preach their agendas or share their testimonies. The problem of preachiness from the panel discussion itself was addressed by simply urging more careful vetting of those invited to participate, or by the expedient of simply allowing only one such homily, and if it was reverted to, simply turning off the mic. To their credit, none of the invited speakers indulged in this, The final problem of technical glitches was addressed simply by the recognition that speakers had to do their part to ensure that their presentations would run smoothly on the platforms available to conference organizers.
For my part, I greatly enjoyed being able to meet and speak with people whose work I have followed, but never met, and this included Dr. Carol Rosin (who helped clarify some details concerning the Nazi Paperclip scientists for me), whose attendance in person at the conference was widely appreciated(not the least by me!). I also had the honor of meeting and talking with Mr. Richard Dolan for the first time, as well as Mark McAndlish.
The bottom line: we did well, but we all recognized that we can do better, and that this was not an end, but a beginning, in an effort to raise the bar of standards at such conferences. There were other ideas discussed as well, but these are of a more proprietary nature, and hence I am reluctant to comment on them openly. But suffice it to say, if implemented, they will also go a long way to raise that bar.
No such review of a conference would be complete without a thank you to all those who made it so enjoyable for me. First and foremost, of course, to Mr. Jeroen van Stratten, his wife Maddy, Robert Dupper, and their team who worked so hard to make it all happen and to organizer such a rostrum and mix of intriguing speakers. And a big thank you to the speakers who contributed their time and insights that made it, for me, such an enjoyable event: Catherine Austin Fitts, Dr. Carol Rosin, Richard Dolan, Mark McAndlish, and Jon Rappaport. And a final word of thanks, also, to my friends Chuck McCorkle and Walter Bosley for "riding shotgun" (they'll know what I mean), and to all of you for your thoughts and prayers.
See you on the flip side...
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Hello Joseph,
I have been wondering for a while about the turn taken by Red Ice Creations, so what did you make of Mr Palmgren? In the past months, some features began to appear on the RIC site regularly about paganism (“Nordic gods”, etc.), jewish evils, “germanophobia” (sic) and now about “Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told”, noooo kidding. What is it with those guys? I once wrote them about those issues to no avail, all I got was an angry reply.
I hate to be a killjoy in all the good work that is going on but I think all these brilliant minds should be focusing on how to get a piece of this mining action for the public at large. It was the american tax payer that pioneered space exploration and financed the scientific studies that were done on earth and in space and it will be the U.S. taxpayer that will protect these mining endeavors if there is a territorial challenge from another nation or planet. The U.S. must nationalise this outer space program and finance it through private funding giving only a percentage of the profit to the private partnership and giving the lions share to the public sector tax system,payback for all the sacrifices americans have made in this field over the decades,letting nazi’s into the intelligence sector of the U.S. has cost hundreds of thousands of lives in america and now the benefits of this research must go to the american public,not the muti-nationaled elite.
Here is another one:
http://www.mania.com/aliens-moon-truth-exposed_article_140056.html
Have they been reading “Dark Mission” perhaps?
Max
Structures on the moon in mainstream media, at last.
PS: I hope to see the conference on youtube in a few weeks
I concur with Jon about the Q&A part of the conference. People took the opportunity to do the Me, My, I, me thing and not ask legitimate questions. I would think, knowing that Catherine was there for the synopsis, that the suggestion to collect questions from the audience prior to the Q&A session, review them, and ask the best ones… would be her answer to the problem. That is how she handles the Solari questions, as well. The panels were similarly situated (a little too much me, my I) with the first day’s panel not being nearly as valuable as the one on day 2. Since you sat patiently in both, Dr. Farrell, I commend you for your ability to be polite and deal with the egos on day 1, as opposed to the excellent group on day 2 with whom you were able to contribute coherently without interruption.
Thank you for your frank review of the disaster presented by the one (nameless) presenter for whom no one in my group felt sorry. Absolutely no excuse. With that exception, and possibly the ramblings of Carol Rosin who I feel confident could have been more organized, (actually, her big hair sort of puts her into the group of crazies that usually populates a “UFO Conference”) the rest of the presenters viewed this conference as a serious venue to discuss the situation in which we are currently faced. Gazillions of dollars (after all, we don’t even know how many trillions, might be bazillions by now) have been sucked out of the middle class and the upper class (too, thank you) and added to the loot syphoned off the Europeans and the Asians at the middle of the last century to create a separation of people who are literally light years ahead of us mortals left to serve them. Mark McCandlish and Michael Schratt did a fairly good job of making that clear. Furthermore, Catherine interviewed Mark McCandlish on Solari.com this week and I do hope that she will make that interview available to your subscribers, as well. Absolutely awe inspiring.
Since you modestly did not attempt to review yourself, let me thank you for your participation in the conference. Your solid, extremely well-organized history of how we got to this point, complete with links and references, was the spine of the entire conference from which the others were able to frame the situation: Fitts – Finance, Dolan – UFO phenomenon, Schratt – known terrestrial craft, McCandlish – physics and the back engineering of craft, and Rappaport – you need to figure out how you are going to utilize all of this information and not follow the rest of the sheeple (well that’s my take on his creative rambling). Your presentation, thankfully each day, was the core of the entire conference.
I have always avoided these gatherings as they have included total whack jobs who take advantage of the masses (like those Q&A jerks). This was the first serious discussion and I look forward to more of them.
Yes she contacted me and we are going to put McAndlish’s and her interview in the Members’ area.
*Very* interesting article from the unknowncountry.com website about Whitley’s website about his analysis of the image(s) from the supposed 2010 “missile off California” that relates directly to the “Secret Space Program” topic..
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/search/?query=Mars
Thought I would pass it along.
Max
Joseph’ comments are good for people who did not attend. The streaming has provided, with great clarity, the presentations of all the presenters and I am very impressed with the material.
All events have problems, but the message of the conference was easily transmitted by the speakers, and I for one applaud them. The unfortunate “hickups” will not be repeated at the next event.
So can we still purchase the stream of the conference from the website? I saw they were offering live streaming, but was not sure if that meant we could also watch recordings of the presentation after the fact.
I have to agree with JPF as far as participation from the online side goes. I am still in the process of watching the streaming videos of the event, as I missed most of the presentations, partly due to my schedule and partly due to a glitch in the information I got during registration.
I agree that the Q & A seemed mostly to consist of people who thought that was a platform for their personal agendas. It made the Q and A sessions almost useless from a viewer standpoint. I did admire how the panel folks remained polite and tried to treat the goofballs with respect. Kudos to you guys for that.
Whether those people were “plants” or just goofy is anyone’s guess. One way to deal with that in future is to only accept written questions, or to have someone in the line-up for the mic ask each person to tell them the question before they get to the mic. Scary bouncers also help.
And as for Ed getting a pair of night vision goggles stolen, I would encourage him next time not to make such a big deal announcing how valuable they are and putting the suggestion into people’s minds about stealing them- that is virtually guaranteed to attract thieves. I had a very bad feeliing when I watched him do that live on Saturday night.
I also thought you deftly and respectfully skirted the conflict between your work and the more “fluffy” aspect of Rosin’s concerning the assessment of the possible threat from ET. I find the idea that anyone who flies faster than a certain speed or having attained a certain level of technology automatically being harmless and benign to be hopelessly naive.
I would be more easily convinced if people saying such things could ever produce any actual evidence to back up what they say. The lack of immediate attack is no proof of benign intent (just ask Native Americans). As you have so eloquently demonstrated, there is plenty of evidence of aggresive, if not actully threatening, behavior. I think that starting the launch sequence of a nuclear missle which could trigger a war to annihilate the planet is a bit more than “provocative;” it is downright threatening. At the very least, it risks serious damage and death, even in a limited self-destruct scenario. That is NOT the action of a benign or harmless being, and certainly not one who could be considered morally or spiritually superior.
At least some of the UFOs are NOT piloted by nice folks. The evidence is irrefutable on that point.
It was nice to hear from Bearden, but sad to hear how his health has faded the energy of that great mind. I’m glad that he has recorded so much of his material for posterity.
I did like that the focus of the conference was on facts and reasonable scenarios, and to a lesser extent on how we, as the “little” guys, can still do useful and effective things.
I think this group of people in this conference are off to a great start. I hope they make DVDs of the talks available. I would buy them to show to others. (I still prefer tangible goods to the vagaries of streaming over the net – still too flaky for me to trust very much.)
You all deserve a hearty “good job.”
An possibility of a write up the conference as those could not attend can find what was discussed in more detail.
Has the line-up of your coming books changed in any way as a result of the conference?