THE GMO SCRAPBOOK: RAPPAPORT ON THE MAUI CASE AND MON(STER)SANTO

Rarely do I write a blog where almost the whole blog is someone else's blog, but that's the case today, and the reason that it's the case today is because I cannot improve either upon Mr. Rappaport's words nor exceed the passion with which they were written, and which I share. I will say something about that passion, from my own personal standpoint, after this article:

Why I keep writing about Monsanto vs. Maui

So what's my own personal passion in all of this?

I've written about GMOs before, and about the almost complete lack of long-term intergenerational studies on their health and environmental impacts, studies only now coming out from various independent sources - and by independent, I mean something other than the bought-and-paid-for government rubber stamp of corporate scientism and its dogmas. Russia, readers here will recall, has specifically embarked on such long-term studies, recognizing that they were never adequately implemented in the corporatist west. University studies, including some in GMO-friendly USA, have indicated falling rates of production for rising production costs for GMO crops, vs their natural counterparts, and all this while IG Farbensanto, Duponzanto, Syncrudda and other "agribusiness" firms were hauling farmers to court and suing them when they found GMO crops growing in their fields, often without the farmer's intention, but simply as the result of natural causes!

For me, the real issue here is much deeper than GMOs, human health, or global food production. Those are, to be sure, life and death issues. There's no getting around this fact. But the deeper issue is philosophical and, one might almost say, cosmological, and that is, can real science even be conducted when sheer amounts of money and political influence can be wielded to distort, or even circumvent, the normal scientific method? To distort or suppress the results of evidence contrary to its assumptions? Is this science? or merely scientism, a new kind of religion by authority when "experts" with PhDs confidently compose their encyclicals and ukases for the faithful to believe, which to question is to be irrational and "unscientific"? And what will be the result culturally if, over time, such practises will be allowed to continue? Will scientists themselves feel secure in their position and in the moral calling that science requires, namely, to be truthful? Science itself - let me repeat that, science itself, all the sciences - is and are at stake in the GMO issue, and when its results can only be assured when bought and paid for, rather than experimentally observed, then science itself is in danger of dying.

Thus, for me, the real issue posed by GMOs is the health, and validity, of science itself. This is the central core of the GMO issue.

We've seen this before, with oligarchy-driven "scientific" memes such as global warming, and when that meme was quickly exposed for doctoring some, and suppressing other, data, then the meme had to be changed to the self-evident generalization and tautological (and hence, non-scientific) meme of "climate change." Let us never forget that the globaloney of overpopulation and carrying capacity was an invention of The Most Serene Republic of Venice, and it has been a dogma of financial oligarchies ever since. It was science that caused those initial Venetian estimates of maximum carrying capacity to be constantly revised... upward. It was science and scientific invention and human creativity that outflanked the "scientific" dogma. GMOs were sold as a means of again circumventing the contemporary estimates of "carrying capacity" and as a means of increasing production to "feed a growing population and hungry world". But data to the contrary of the theory grows, and now, suggestively, it has to be suppressed.

Or, as Mr. Rappaport so suggestively put it in his blog, while the lawsuit drags on, the shredders are working overtime to kill and suppress the data that opposes the dogma.

The real nightmare for Interessen Gemeinschaft Farbensantoindustrie, Aktiensgesellschaft is... when will the whistleblowers start blowing whistles, and leaking, Snowden-style, the documents? That's why the shredders are probably working overtime, because the old memes of "what's good for Wall Street, what's good for capitalism, is good for America" and "corporations and governments never lie", just isn't playing in Peoria any more. And it's certainly not playing in Maui.

See you on the flip side...

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

31 Comments

  1. terminally skeptical on April 30, 2015 at 5:01 am

    By and large the discourse here at GDS is stimulating but there are moments when it feels like it’s time to get out the waders. This cartoon is a favorite reality check:

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  2. Robert Barricklow on April 26, 2015 at 8:45 am

    Just in from Jon Rappoport

    Australia: Everyone MUST get vaccinated except…
    The Prime Minister’s daughters…

    http://nomorefakenews.com/



  3. DownunderET on April 24, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    This topic, is just one of many topics that the US has perpetrated by lies. Lie after lie after lie and there is no end to it. Most of the world now knows that the US can’t tell the truth about ANYTHING. So what’s driving this agenda and who it at the steering wheel. Wars, financial manipulation, GMO’S, the list is endless, and slowly but surely the world, aka the east, will turn on these “Financial Vipers” and cease to trade with this criminal behemoth. We have already seen contracts for US goods “cancelled” because now nobody trusts the “Americarnos” or their tools of trade. America “IS” Venice, and we all know what happened to Venice.



  4. marcos toledo on April 24, 2015 at 12:49 pm

    The Agribusiness has been passing as foods-medicines aka poisons since their birth. High class dope peddlers if anybody can get their hands on it read Ambrose Bierce’s The Devil’s Dictionary for the real meanings of the words as understood by our elites. We are at the mercy of these worshipers of the gods of Death, Murder, and torture nothing swells these things excuse for a heart than knowing they screwed millions no billions of lives of the living whether they go on two feet, four feet, fly, or crawl.



  5. justawhoaman on April 24, 2015 at 9:21 am

    You make a good point, Basta, except that there are more and more “clued in” people thanks to the internet. Clearly, not every bit of information found “here” is unbiased or proven, but, take the chemtrails dilemma, for example, without the internet, many people would not believe it was true. There have been enough YouTube videos, scientific documentation and testimony, that people who have not experienced the grid chemtrails can see what is going on and become believers. Count me in on that one. I may not be “terminally skeptical” but it takes real data and observation to prove the “conspiracy”. The same goes for what happened on 9/11: it took quite a lot of reading for me to see the legitimately documented facts about what took the buildings down (as I had friends who watched the whole scenario unfold from the GW Bridge). It is equally hard for me to accept a conspiracy as it is to defeat one

    As you make the case, while the web they have woven may appear seamless, it is a cotton candy web of lies that simply takes a bucket of water to turn it to a pink puddle. Thanks to Dr. Farrell and others, and especially to the followers who motivate their friends to read these discussions, we shall continue to fill that bucket, cup by cup, with the intention of dissolving this horror. What we do from there is up to us, or at least people like us following in the model of GeorgeAnn Hughes, to follow through.

    I honestly believe that our earth is resilient to this barrage and that we might soon see that natural phenomenon that changes these plans. As the commercial once phrased it: ” It is not nice to try to fool Mother Nature.” The rebalance will not be nice, indeed.



    • basta on April 24, 2015 at 11:20 am

      Thank you for your heartening post and POV. I do sincerely hope that there are enough people becoming aware of the breathtaking extent of the Big Lie, but I seenothing but increased indoctrination and infantilization.

      For example, every day I curse the massive chemtrailing going on right over my head–and don’t live just anywhere, but in the center one of the world’s top-three most famous and desirable cities–and no one is even willing to acknowledge the reality that on any given day, 50 to 100 overflights of chemspray are going on. Today it was so thick, it fell in a disgusting chemsmog, but everyone is running around as if metallic skies and massive crayon-streaks and freakish nano-mist is somehow normal.

      People can no longer think for themselves. It’s as if it has simply been bred out of them, and they remain in a frightening susprended adolescence and will away reality and instead live in a fantasy world untouched by the insanely bold criminal activities going on all around them.

      In the face of concerted, determined evil, perfected over generations, the zombified and iDistracted populations of the world are lost. We are toast. There are not enough who are aware, and those who are not Just Don’t Care.

      I am frankly furious. I explain, over and over, what is really going on, and people look at me like I’m an alien. These people are the ones who, in their blind ignorance and willful refusal to face reality and their responsibilities as human beings, are complicit in this epochal travesty, this insane reality we live in. They are the stoopid sheeple (I hate that phrase, but unfortunately it is so true) that allow the psychopathic Cabal(-ah) to get away with this. Because the iIdiots shy away from the truth, I must breathe chemtrail residue every day, and all the rest of it. I’m doing my part, what about the rest of you? If you people were as informed as I am, and as aware, we’d live in paradise on earth! So don’t blame me for being a “downer” — your ignorance is allowing all this to happen.

      I wish humanity could just be slapped in the face, like Cher did to Nicolas Cage in Moonstruck. “Snap out of it!”



      • Sandygirl on April 26, 2015 at 1:17 pm

        What would we all do without our alternative news sites, we would have to meet in person. You can find me by my smoke signals, I bet over 20 percent have the rebel genes.



      • Sandygirl on April 26, 2015 at 1:29 pm

        What would we all do without our alternative news sites, we would have to meet in person. You can find me by my smoke signals, I bet over 20 percent have the rebel genes.
        I admire the Black protesting going on right now, we should all join them.



        • terminally skeptical on April 26, 2015 at 3:56 pm

          Or we could just continue to sit in our cubbies and keep right on barking at the moon. We’re pretty good at that.



    • Elm on April 24, 2015 at 5:03 pm

      A hopeful posting…

      Freedom at its root, is a very personal, individual thing.
      “A hero is a man who does what he can.” ~ Romain Rolland

      On 9/11, The True Spirit of American Lived in Manhattan
      https://www.youtube.com/embed/MDOrzF7B2Kg?rel=0

      See also, Dr. Amit Goswami on, “Quantum Physics, Consciousness And Health” — That consciousness, “PRECEDES all Matter.”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqUge12FnI0

      “…In India, people ingenuously catch monkeys with a jar of chickpeas. The monkey reaches into the jar to grab a fistful of chickpeas. Alas, with its fist closed on the food, it can no longer remove its hand. The mouth of the jar is too small for its fist. The trap works because the monkey’s greed prohibits him from letting go of the chickpeas. The axioms of material realism — materialism, determinism, locality, and so forth — served us well in the past when our knowledge was more limited than it is today, but now they have become our trap. We may have to let go of the chickpeas of certainty in order to embrace the freedom that lies outside the material arena.” [The Self-Aware Universe: How Consciousness Creates The Material World, by Dr. Amit Goswami, 1993:47]

      “…Now the new physics is crying out for a new, liberating philosophy — one befitting our current level of knowledge. If monistic idealism fits the need, for the first time since Descartes, science, the humanities, and the religions can walk arm-in-arm in the search for the whole human truth — The antithesis of material realism is monistic idealism. In this philosophy, consciousness, not matter, is fundamental.” [ibid:47-48]



      • Robert Barricklow on April 27, 2015 at 10:34 am

        On another front…
        The new computing language for reorganizing society has brought together varied interests, including info-hackers, bio-hackers, 3D-hackers, and Cleanweb-hackers. The bond that unites all these groups is a deep commitment to a collaborative open-source economy and a Commons-governing model. While markets aren’t altogether dismissed, or governments left entirely out of the equation, the new movements share a passionate belief in the superiority of peer-to-peer Commons management as the best governing model to ensure that the benefits of a near zero marginal cost society are realized rather than stymied.
        The struggle between prosumer collaboratists and investor capitalists, while still nascent, is shaping up to be the critical economic battle of the first half of the 21st Century.



        • Elm on April 27, 2015 at 1:25 pm

          Dr. Goswami sheds light upon an important distinction between human thought and computer “language.” Goswami explains, whereas computers are simply “symbol” processors, human beings are “meaning” processors — a function for which computers are unsuitable and not adaptable. Indeed, with whatever meaning computer programs are assigned, their “input” is always given to whatever meaning was first resident and conceived of and processed by a human mind. So, human consciousness, at whatever level, always precedes programing and a processing of symbols, no matter how complex. So, the future mostly distils down to whoever controls the programming or narrative, and the meaning or purpose to which it is put.

          Whereas any contra-veiling vision or narrative remains weak and obscure, for better or worse, the so-called New World Order knows precisely where it wants to take or do to everyone, and as JFK observed, they have co-opted and positioned massive human and material resources to accomplish their goals. As Bush Sr. quipped, this time they believe they have a real chance. But of course, this what precisely what galled them about the American founding fathers, that they rewrote the story, and created a new narrative more friendly and compatible with human needs and man’s higher nature. To this end, Goswami refers to the new physics, as “Monistic Idealism.” And certainly, if anything, the founding fathers were idealists. No doubt, scientists like Ben Franklin could quite easily also have found kindred spirits among Dr. Goswami’s Monistic Idealists. Indeed, the new physics, to a degree a repackaging, expansion upon and honing of several previous ideas associated with human progress and enlightenment, may be our saving “grace,” that is, if we may view grace as “time” itself.

          The real danger is, that man will mistake symbol processing for the unique and singular human capacity, and yes the fundamental need, for a discernment of meaning and purpose to this life and human existence. Too much reduction in this direction has already occurred.

          The first rule of creation and man’s existence in time space is this — To be worthy, man MUST create. It is THIS worthiness, which is at the root of all genuine self-esteem. It would be a travesty of human “evolution,” for the uniquely human fifth digit, to atrophy into a dew claw.



          • moxie on April 27, 2015 at 1:54 pm

            “The first rule of creation and man’s existence in time space is this — To be worthy, man MUST create.”

            Maybe that’s the point.. to know your creator (the intelligence behind all of this), you have to learn the creative process (a consciousness ascent) down to its fundamentals.. and through that we get to know the “Image”.



          • Elm on April 27, 2015 at 6:45 pm

            Indeed, the “Image” is, in physical or material terms, allegorical or metaphoric — To “know,” meaning to have an intimate knowledge or consciousness of. Adam “knew” Eve, Moses walked with and “knew” the Creator as a friend etc.

            From a personal or individual standpoint however, the “ascent” in “consciousness” to which you refer, may better be described as a “transformation” of matter — of “lead into gold” along Hermetic lines as it were, and all that physical matter implies, into its immortal, infinite and eternal spiritual reality and “potentia” — precisely the type of governmental framework for which the American founding fathers hoped to provide.



          • moxie on April 27, 2015 at 8:27 pm

            Yes, the transformation, through which we gain an understanding of the intelligence and its creation and what they stand for. Whether that intelligence is also personal, I’m inclined to think so. For to create, one needs to have sufficient understanding of what it creates. And we’ve been imparted that ability to create through our imagination.



          • Robert Barricklow on April 28, 2015 at 2:43 pm

            As Always Elm your posts are very enlightening[as opposed to illuminating].
            In following your stream of consciousness on language/symbols. On goes from the oratory to the page to the image to now with the internet as the medium. Along the way some baggage is picked up and some discarded. Still, at the core is the fact that consciousness lags behind the “unconscious”. So what transpires between our “first” inklings of thoughts that “filter” through this “unconscious” filter? Many have equated this with “fate”; and wonder if there is indeed “free will”?
            In the creative aspect there is that quality that too is being usurped by commercialism/militarism. The creative process is being rounded-up and co0rrealed as if the talent scouts are on a cattle drive for those with the right stuff to steer in the “proper” direction a profitable and weaponized creationism.



          • Robert Barricklow on April 28, 2015 at 2:52 pm

            Elm
            I replied but my comment is “awaiting’ analogue approval. Analogues are now writing stories AND doing some editing as well. These analogues have definitely moved up the food chain. As in most chains, including the military’s cherished “kill-chain”; it’s the Human that is the weak link. So, hopefully, the analogue will determine I’m a normal weak-link human and thus meets with the analogues protocol for approval.



          • Elm on April 30, 2015 at 1:10 am

            Thank you Robert.

            “Enlightening,” meaning to be filled with light, as opposed to “illuminate,” meaning to shed light upon. There is also the “Illuminati,” — the craft of concealing darkness and death in light, a mechanism by which a people are seduced into the arms of destruction. This is the Luciferic Principle, that even though externally he appears luminous, he is “fallen” because he conceals darkness and death. And thus, Lucifer the “light bringer” is consummate archetype and contradiction between substance and form.

            Indeed, there is “free will,” as in a choosing to be conscious — a choosing to know — a choosing of light and truth over darkness and falsehood. In this sense, “choice” is not a consumer option, but a proactive “choosing” commensurate with life. “I set before you the blessing and the curse — life and death, so therefore choose life, that you may live, you and your family.” [Deut: 30:19]

            Commensurate with the thermodynamic arrow of time, life is a constant state of mind, and of proactive conscious choosing, that in failing to choose death is default. As it has been said, “time waits for no man.”

            We choose consciousness, so therefore we live. And in what may appear to be a simple rhetorical statement, I consciously “see” you, and therefore you exist. In fact, this is the reason for which man and woman are created, that man, like the Prime Mover of independent volition, could not tell themselves they existed. From a perspective of quantum physics, it is our conscious “looking” that causes a “wavicle” in potentia, to collapse into a particle of matter.

            This brings to mind the words of American founding father, and co-signer of the Declaration of Independence, Patrick Henry, whose light charged words could easily have been identified as those of a monistic idealist (as opposed to a material realist)… “For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it — Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death.!”

            Indeed, if the founding fathers, like the British had been “material realists,” the war of 1776 and the making of the American constitutional republic would never have materialized. Regrettably, too many Americans today are material realists, with nothing waiting in “potentia.” The people are wheezing on the dust of discarded ideals, and freedoms won. Each generation must find its own way — learn the same lessons — make sacrifices. Contrary to “public” opinion, freedom and health have never been “convenient.”

            “But to have gathered from the air a live tradition, or from a fine old eye the unconquered flame, this is not vanity… Here error is all in the not done… In the diffidence that faltered.” ~ Ezra Pound, Cantos



  6. Robert Barricklow on April 24, 2015 at 8:41 am

    Isaac Asimov said[I’m paraphrasing] the Albuquerque Wrong Turn in science occurred during WW1 w/ the poison gases developed by I.G. Farben. First used 4/11/1915. It was science being used for evil. Since then science has assumed a sinister flavor for power & profit. This then implicitly invalidates the purely functional of sciences & technologies. The values if this kind of international corporatism that has wrapped its sinews of profit & power around the Earth, is now embedded within “our” sciences & technologies – on their research agendas & designs[a Gillette razor-blade of power and profit, at the bare throats of sciences & technologies]. Their rationality is therefor not really rational or neutral; and well not find the strength to oppose injustices or pathologies that contemporary society imposes on us.
    Now the advance of experimentalism threatens to turn society into a laboratory of the driving force for power & profit, writ large across the globe.



  7. Guygrr on April 24, 2015 at 8:22 am

    If anyone needs proof for themselves that GMOs and sprayed chemicals, such as glyphosate, are indeed influencing the immune system there is a relatively inexpensive blood test that can be done. It’s called an ALCAT allergy sensitivity test, in addition to food sensitivities, chemical sensitivities are also tested. By the nature of the test, the only things that will pop up as being problematic are things that the immune system is currently having trouble processing and detoxing. Being a blood test, that means that foreign material has leaked over from the gut into the bloodstream. So again if anyone needs proof, for themselves or to show to others, that round up is polluting the human body look no further.



  8. Aridzonan_13 on April 24, 2015 at 8:10 am

    It’s the best justice money can buy. If you have the money you can buy whatever decision you want. Bievenudo al Mundo Tercero.. Where laws are selectively enforced.



  9. moxie on April 24, 2015 at 7:42 am

    Science for them, is utilized as a means for their purposes. If it ever benefited humanity, it’s just to sustain the “S” system (thinking of a euphemism for slavery, oh yeah there’s none) and capitalism. It seems they want people to be/remain reduced to the bottom of the pyramid (pun)-(see Maslow’s hierarchy)



  10. basta on April 24, 2015 at 6:08 am

    At root (pardon the pun), GMOs are part of the Depopulate for Fun and Profit agenda that has taken over the USSA Corporatocracy. It is all there to be laughed off by a presstitute media, along with all those other tinfoil-hat items on the agenda: chemtrailing, WiFi/microwaving, fluoridation, chemical and toxic food additives from Aspertame to margarine to HFCS, vaccines, the cancer racket, and on and on.

    At this point the fix is in, the matrix is up and running, and they’ve constructed a nearly seamless web of lies (if you don’t look too closely, then it just falls apart like a cheap trinket), which most people are incapable of doing in any event, having been subjected to a lifetime of the above, along with a Ponzi financial system and a debased educational system.

    Everything’s going according to plan.



    • Robert Barricklow on April 24, 2015 at 9:33 am

      Very well written Basta.
      Yet I ponder at “whose” script?
      Sometimes I wonder if Brutus was right,
      and it is indeed “written in our stars”…?
      DNA?
      Or is the quantum roulette wheel of chance
      throwing a monkey wrench into any and all “fixes”.
      Or is the universe sentient?
      Or parts of it?



      • moxie on April 25, 2015 at 12:46 am

        What if the script is carried on and out because the actors come back? if you get my drift.
        Something tells me all of this is ordered chaos.. We tend to think of equilibrium in dualistic terms (where both ends lead to nowhere, infinity=0.. hence, scales are pointless). Isn’t there a third point or force that makes a perfect balance? and that structure inherently self-corrects?



        • Robert Barricklow on April 25, 2015 at 8:52 am

          I very much enjoyed your analyses as it was presented in a manner and way in which my thought processes had not as yet travelled .
          You unique perspective has made my day.



          • moxie on April 25, 2015 at 9:38 am

            Thanks Robert. You see, things have a way of coming around to strike our noggin (which I think also demonstrates the said dynamic)..or even dislodge (as Dr. Farrell says) a pebble from the shoe



      • basta on April 25, 2015 at 6:16 am

        Not to go all woo-woo Robert, but I believe there is another dimension intersecting and affecting our own, or if you will a spiritual/demonic dimension, also an ET influence, and quite probably all three.

        Overtly, none of these things exist, but they too are as badly obfuscated as the reality hidden behind the tawdry Truman Show of Big Lies.

        Throw these into the mix and it becomes much more difficult to parse, though I do think that the ultimate purpose of being human on this planet is as a school for the soul, and that we are given challenges commensurate with our progress in that school. Both individuall and as societies and in the widest sense also as a species.

        You mention the quantum state and there you are dealing with energy/light, not mass, and energy = information = consciousness, in my view. And that’s where things get really interesting. I think yes, the universe is sentient, because the double-slit experiment proves that consciousness literally precipates matter; no consciousness, no physical universe, simple as that.

        I’ve had a huge number of personal experiences that have verified all this. There’s a vast amount of extra-dimensional life-force out there, call them demons and angel and jinn if you wish, but it’s all very real, many entitites are parasitic, as well. I think this explains a huge amount of abberent behaviours, and there is a very good reason the Catholic Church forbids certain occult practices, because they drop one’s natural defenses and allow entry. So exorcism is not a joke; it is their time-proven protocol for dealing with this vey real problem; the native peoples all have thier traditions for handling this as well. So there really is a cosmic war going on over good and evil, sides have been taken, and it’s very real. And btw life is sacred.



        • Robert Barricklow on April 25, 2015 at 8:58 am

          I too have “perceived/seen” that dimension that appeared not only sentient but communicating as well. That there are forces that counter/mirror one another – in their dimensions, as in ours – is “balanced/yingyang/completing the circle”.
          Thanks for expressing your views & thoughts on this.



          • Robert Barricklow on April 25, 2015 at 9:03 am

            …completing the square in the circle…



        • Delurking on April 27, 2015 at 10:14 pm

          Great post, Basta.

          As anybody who is sufficiently awake knows, there is indeed a “spiritual dimension” and this is far more important than the material realm, as the eternal is far more significant than the ephemeral, as higher things are more important than mundane matters. And there is indeed spiritual evil, and anybody who has truly encountered spiritual evil recognizes that it is beyond human comprehension, emphatically NOT of human origin. Hence the reality of demons or jinn as you have noted. Many cultures have described these invisible intelligences from another dimension throughout human history. On the other hand, all the contemporary talk of “space aliens” is mostly the product of our psychopathic elite’s recent propaganda efforts as it has been known that “space aliens” are part and parcel of their ultimate deception yet to come. All the alleged “facts” about alleged “space aliens” seem to mirror the facts known about demons through the ages. As the global psychopaths worship the evil one, and the demons serve the evil one, it seems transparently obvious to me that the global psychopaths are merely trying to pass off their demons as friends of man. But alarmingly there is no shortage of people today who are willing to buy into the deception and accept the “space alien” propaganda uncritically.



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