NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM JUNE 19 2015
June 19, 2015 / /
Russia wants an international investigation into the Moon landings, but compare the headlines from the Moscow Times vs. the U.K.;s Independent:
Russia calls investigation into whether US moon landings happened
Russian Official Proposes International Investigation Into U.S. Moon Landings
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Forget regulating the International Banking Carte; Monsanto; the environment; Food Safety; Public Water; or the Public Themselves – Unless the People TAKE BACK Their Governments!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diRUQBckMn8
Hah! A plausibly faked UFO/alien disclosure would be the perfect thing to distract the world from certain knowledge of the hidden system of finance and other skullduggery. Such an event would unite the people of earth to the point where they might even allow the parasite class to slink into the shadows where they could be forgotten until the next time their playbook becomes useful.
And the link between lunar landings and corruption in soccer is… ?
Hey Tim,
As far as I can tell, they both involve round balls that float through the air and have been kicked around a lot. I hope this helps.
Also, both are man made objects that are totally subservient to Earth’s gravity. They both have coarse surfaces as well. They both have been and will continue to be the focal point of human competition.
I for one I see here two variants.
One is that Russians try to play at the psychological and propaganda level to influence in some ways the rather large number of people that believe more or less in some conspiracy theories (not saying that some conspiracy theories aren’t based more or less on real things). By such they try to instill some doubt in technological prowess and morality of US (their perceived main rival and possible enemy).
Another variant is that the Moon landings were real. I think it was a Mythbusters episode were they kinda debunked all the “against” theories, including a visit to a space center were they pointed a laser to the Moon that was reflected back by the mirrors positioned on the Moon surface by astronauts.
Russians do that experiment too (for calculating the distances and such) so they know for sure those are real.
Here I go with the theory that Americans were there but some other higher power watching over Terra passed by and told them to get back and stop doing business on the Moon because is already taken and used for other purposes.
Russians know too about that higher intelligence or power and their hint was something like:
“if you will attack us we can reveal something about “they”, so to make you (USA) lose your top position in the view of world, and shake down as well the human society with unknown consequences for everyone”.
Still a mostly empty threat however, in my opinion, they (Russians) won’t be let to go full lenght with this, only if some higher interest require that
I’m an Apollo agnostic, and think that if we got up there, it wasn’t how they said we did, and in this scenario, many anomalies are “answered,” though not all by any means. For example, you still have the ridiculous mountain of faked and retouched photos (someone once simply divided the number of photos supposedly taken by one of the astronauts by the number of seconds in his entire EVA, showing that he would be taking a near-perfectly framed photo every 20-odd seconds, which is preposterous).
Anyway, we all know the drill re: Apollo anomalies and we should also recall Armstrong resurfacing from his Cornbelt reclusion on the 25th anniversary of whatever happened in 1969 and inviting the youth of the US to “remove one of truth’s protective layers” with a choking voice and tears in his eyes. — Paging Dr. Freud! Dr. Freud to emergency!
As for the lasers, that last bastion of proof, I’ve read this one over and over and over — and someone please correct me if I am wrong — but I just cannot see how one can cohere a laser and send it through earth’s atmosphere to the moon and manage for it to hit a reflector on the lunar surface the size of a bathroom mirror, then receive enough of a cohered signal back in return. Perhaps I’m wrong, but I rather suspect you can point that laser at the moon at say, Aristarchus Crater for example (or anywhere else for that matter) and get the same return signal by simply bouncing it off the regolith.
I see Markin’s quote that refers to the 400kg of lunar “rocks” as “scientific or rather cultural artifacts” as highly significant. I highly doubt the culture he’s referring to is our own.
Extremely interesting move here by Russia, signalling in no uncertain terms that the gloves are off and each new foray or attack (FIFA in this case) will be met with a truth-bomb riposte.
I’ve been saying all along that this next war will be an information war (and hopefully stay at that level if the ZioCons don’t go total Strangelove on us). Considering the vast stockpile of lies foisted on the world by the US since the early 20th century — an intricately woven tissue of lies that is now so dense as to be self-sustaining (take Seymour Hersh’s latest bin Laden disinfo for example) and essentially the massed float in a parallel reality — Russia has a staggering arsenal that more than rivals its nukes as effective deterrant.
The only problem is that any revelations have to be air-tight and so obvious that even the most brainwashed of the Duhmerican masses can comprehend the evidence. This is where the dumbing-down “strategery” comes into its own. Doubtless, though, these calls for impartial investigations will have more influence on European public opinion, and I think the ultimate target here are the increasingly disillusioned Europeans, sowing yet more doubt about their exceptional “friend” across the water.
In my mind’s eye Seymour Hersh is like another Bob Woodward.
…if the ZioCons don’t go total Strangelove..
Loved It!
Who’s Deep Throat then with all the retarded bin Laden disinfo? Probably Dick Cheney.
Delurking, when looking the follow the Deep Throat thread, you need to step back and look into the history of the Doomsday Project. For that needle threads its way through the Kennedy assassination, Iran-Afghan-Contra, Watergate, & 9/11. And yes, the diabolical Dynamic Duo of Rumsfeld/Cheney are starkly present.
Robert, it was even reported in the American mainstream media in the fall of 2001 that the immobile, near-death bin Laden (a threat to no one) had checked into a French hospital in the Persian Gulf and unsurprisingly died shortly thereafter. The rest of the world understood this all along, but the Bush Regierung, with the full complicity of the mainstream media, played the great mass of cowards masquerading as morons for the next 10 years with impossible stories about their comic book villain taking down the world. To say that such blatant bull**** has a rich pedigree of JFK, Watergate, etc. is laughable. The bin Laden BS is so amateurish and intelligence-insulting that one can really only conclude that it came from Herr Karl Rove’s rectum since he literally pulled that **** out of his ***.
The mainstream news has been pulling that den dead again rabbit out of their *** for too long…
Well you know, that generation of spooks grew up with Monty Python and I think with Ousama bin Deadagain they’re referencing the dead parrot sketch, with a glance towards “bring out yer dead!” As for Hersh, he’s straight out of Langley central casting, plays his role in the Wurlitzer pitch-perfect and has been a loyal asset, though now he’s in his 70s, retiring, and they decided to use him to do the dirty and sent him out to pasture with a bang, though exposing him to anyone who’s been at all paying attention.
Re: JFK, the Russians must have some interesting files there too, particularly on LHO.
Your reference to Monty Python is spot-on.
Hersh had been cast long ago as a journalist for the New World Disorder. Called to the lead the charge in mis/disinformation. Framing & spinning the dance the deception and winning accolades for his performances.
Oswald is just another patsy & the Russians no doubt knew it. Bit like other nations; there is a public face that is national and a state within a state that is international. Loyalties are constantly in flux. Yet within intelligence/finance/black research the cards are held very close to the vest.
The Russians no doubt know about JFK, MLK, RFK; Iran/Afghan/Contra; Watergate; the Oklahoma Bombing; The October Surprise; The Doomsday Project; 9/11; and other skeletons.
They all have skeletons in their respective closets.
If and when this information warfare gets down & dirty; we’re all in for some very “interesting times'[Chinese-Style].
Maybe the Indians and Chinese, after the experience of sending their own probes out there, have been scratching their heads as to how the U.S. landed men there in 1969? It may lean more in the direction (as Dr Farrell hints) that the BRICS space programs have come to the conclusion that all has not been revealed as to the technology used to do it. And maybe the Russians are leading in with this story to ignite debate on the inadequacy of chemical rocket engines to complete the task, perhaps, to let the anti-gravity cat out of the Bag! ….. maybe.
The Kremlin are crackpots and this proves it. Next thing you know they are going to be saying 9/11 was an orchestrated conspiracy cared out by western intelligence services. You just can’t believe anything they say. Thankfully the western media is picking up this Moon hoax story and making westerners aware of this kookiness. Hopefully, the late night western tv entertainer/opinion makers will join in on the ridicule of the tin foil hat crowd in Putin’s government. These people need a good skewering so whatever they claim in the future can be completely disregarded and even laughed at by every American.
Thankfully a fifth column still exists in Russia. Investigators like Markin confirm this along with the editors of Izvestia that printed the op-ed piece. I guess Putin hasn’t been able to purge everyone he doesn’t like in Russian society. Shalom to the fifth column. Keep up the good work. As the screws tighten on the Putin regime and they become more desperate, we can expect more of this zaniness. Westerners better be prepared for an onslaught of fabricated Russian evidence intending to confirm every conspiracy theory on the internet which paints the US government and its ruling oligarchs in a bad light.
anecdotally, I had an acquaintance who I always suspected of harboring kohanim DNA. Whenever the topic of 9/11 came up at a public gathering, he would ardently denounce the official story but then always follow up the conversation with the NASA Moon hoax conspiracy, which would inevitably result in undermining whatever headway was made in awakening others to the 9/11 conspiracy theory.
As above so below. When the devious marching orders come out from the high cabal, they are intended for powerful newspaper editors and small town merchants alike.
Just to add some thoughts.
Vladimir Markin is official representative of The Investigative Committee. This is an alternative structure of Public Prosecution Office.
As a Russian I will add alternative story from Russia on this subject. There were no moon landing. How it was possible to fake it? Only one way. If the USSR officials and people from Space industry won’t question it. And people who came in power in USSR after murdering Stalin and Beria, they were people with whom you could negotiate on these delicate matters. USA got their glory and initiative in Cold war, USSR elite got their explanation why hard reforms are needed. This was a cover-up to destroy the state, get more power and get rid off responsibility.
Now power in Russia slowly goes to those, who opposed late Soviet and post Soviet elites. And they do not have any agreements to cover-up 50-year old set-ups.
Interesting Konsti. Thank you.
The more important part of the story.
Every significant power in the world is working today to lower USA status. Past week Putin have visited Vatican. Pope Bergholio blessed him as a peacemaker and said he will be praying for him. This is a mandate to serious actions against USA domestic elite. Brits also against yankees. That’s why they push Russia to accuse America in moon hoax. But this is not exactly in Russia’s interests. Russia and USA were allies in 1861-1865 and in 1941-1945, that were tough but in some way clear times. But to achieve high level of understanding each other and partnership, big changes are needed within American elite. Russian article says: “we need change”. British article says: “look, Russians are attacking you”.
As DaphneO says, Konsti, thank you for your comments. Very interesting observations.
Even if we accept the hypothesis of a “single world conspiracy” at least with regard to space secrecy (historically akin to the secret medieval cartographic tradition…), the “best-laid plots” are nevertheless subject to the cosmic rule of impermanence. So in times of fast moving events we are seeing lots of hints dropped and can at least hope to see more disclosure.
While “UFO disclosure” is probably not imminent (though who knows?), geopolitical conditions may blow the lid on the “hidden financial system” which has been behind the US space-related projects.
I don’t know if there are any reliable studies of the funding aspect of the then Soviet space programme; but there are signs that, through the Nazi scientist network, there may have been and may still be secret US-Russian collaboration of some kind beyond public aspects such as the International Space Station. If this came out the US oligarchs would have much to lose since this would throw into question 70 years of anti-Russian posturing. And they themselves dread having to face a “glasnost – perestroika” process…
Remember …the moon landing was the greatest technological feat ever accomplished by any nation on earth for the last million or so years. It was a gigantic psychological blow to all of america’s enemies,that includes most Nato members especially the kingdoms that claim superior bloodlines entitle them to world leadership. From the country of mongrels comes this earth moving accomplishment and after investing trillions of dollars they DESTROY the only film evidence of this millennial world wonder??? I smell the foul stench of paperclip Nazi’s and their royal sponsors lurking in our hallowed halls of the pentagon and NASA. A world wide Psy-Ops to discredit america and her accomplishments,to make even americans doubt themselves and their country. This has got Gehlen orgs skidmarks all over it.
One can only hope that this is a prelude to the exposure of artifacts on the moon being publicly aired such as the ones discussed at length by Mr. Hoogland. Problem for american intel is that such information gives hope to countless millions in america who have given up so to speak due to the electronic warfare technologies used on the citizenry of the United States. Hope is kindled through the possibility of a higher intelligence watching over our affairs….and possibly intervening on the side of righteousness,a dim light of hope perhaps but never the less at least something to grasp in the darkness of psychotronic surveillance. Or is it only the first sign of the clash of civilizations that is about to occur.
The usual suspects are pimping the flat Earth and Geocentric universe. And the dingbat Western Europeans and Norman Americans idiots are drinking this Cool Aid. Anyway the (Soviets)Russians sent unmanned probes with return rockets that brought back their Moon rocks and China and India have sent their own lunar probes. So space kabuki theater continues I guess our elites are longing for the good old days of the Dark Ages Stone Ages Barbarians R Us on the march.
Dear Joseph,
Who does your makeup? I do not mean to insult you or your makeup artist…but in all honestly you do not look your best in your weekly video-casts.
Dr. Farrell looks quite normal on my screen , maybe your screen needs de-bugging
Joseph looks just fine on my screen, also. No need for him to “gussy up” for these informal messages.
You guys might need your eyes checked.
Having said that, maybe it is not the makeup but the lighting. Farrell looks way to pasty (with blown out highlights) to appear real. If one is going to do video then one might as well do it well otherwise why not just stick to an audio podcast?
DR. Farrell looks fine on my computer also. A “makeup artist” would be superfluous.
I think the Russians know “exactly” what went on with the NASA moon missions. These articles are just telling the Americans “that we know”, and you had better cough up the truth, or we’ll dump the evidence into the msm. You gotta hand it to the Kremlin, they send little messages to the NASA goons which ripple back to the US government and tell them you had better be careful what you do to us. Now enter the train wreck in Ukraine, this could be the biggest “blowback” the US government has ever had, and Putin is willing, not to pull the war trigger, but the release of the info trigger. In other words Putin and Russia have the goods on the lies of the US, AND THEY WILL USE THEM IF PUSHED.
Dear DownunderET,
Maybe I’m naive but wouldn’t you think that the Americans already know that the Russians know that truth of moon landings? There’s probably been a wink-wink-nod-nod type understanding between those two for the past 50 years now regarding space exploration. And even if Russia dumped it to the msm (i.e., presumably the Anglo-American English speaking msm) would such msm even report it given the general disdain that they’ve exhibited towards Russia in recent years?
It raises a good question. What exactly would Russia have to provide in order to be considered irrefutable proof by the MSM of New York & London? Photos? Videos? Obviously just fancy Russian photoshop propaganda…at least that’s what the Anglo-American MSM would claim, if that even bothered to acknowledge it. More likely it would be left up to American comedians such as “the Simplesons” or Dave Letterman to lampoon and completely ignored by any “serious” media outlet.
In other words, in this day & age of cynicism it would appear that official statements, photos and even video might not be enough. But what would be convincing? How about actual contact with an extra-terrestrial being? Could Russia strike a bargain with an actual ET who would be willing to land on earth in a fleet of starships and say something like, “Yep, we are here and the US has been lying for the past century. Any questions?” Now that would be a Holy Sh!t moment.
“Hidden Technologies” in more ways than one.
1) Technologies used in getting to the moon; not only in energies used, but in materials and spy satellite technologies in searching for ancient technological artifacts[for landing site(s)].
2) Were those artifacts “discovered”? What were they?
Indeed there maybe “other” terrestrial visits that are known; but not by the public side of the coin. Visits to the dark side of the moon?
Perhaps the Russians will purposely draw a little blood into some moon waters[let loose some picture/secrets, where an international press will smell the blood and infest those waters with frenzied coverage. Hey, who knows? There might even be some investigative journalist left who will bravely go against scripted spins. Like those in Mexico, whose many graves attest to their courage in getting THE Story- For The People. Those kind of journalist are not your Corporate Choir Boys, singing-in-tune; but the Real Deal.
IF the Russians and Chinese have had successful moon probes, THEN they have all the evidence they need to prove the cover up of last century. Especially, if they have pics of LEM pedestals parked in front of large glass lunar structures. This is almost as good as Disclsoure. Where explicit pics / videos proving that the USA withheld block buster information would explode PTB credibility. Hence, the next question will be “WHAT ELSE ARE THEY LYING ABOUT??” The potential unraveling of their house of cards looms large with this threat. Can’t wait for the Russians to pull the trigger on this one.
Richard Hoagland has some very persuasive evidence and arguments for why the TPTB would want to “promote” the conspiracy theory that the Americans did not go to the moon. He is adamant that they did and that some of the unaltered photos from the mission show signs of the fabled glass domes ruins on the moon. He claims this is irrefutable proof that the mission happened.
This topic always reminds me of Jay Weidner’s wonderful breakdown of Stanley Kubrick’s “The Shining” which does indeed imply that the first landing was faked while the rest of them were not. It seems very clear that Kubrick was saying that – whether or not Kubrick was just having having some obscure fun with us remains to be seen.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/luna_apollomissions10.htm
Jay also thinks JFK faked his death and Paul McCartney died and was replaced. This is the sort of thing that brings doubt to Jay’s position on the moon landings.
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I have to agree Don.