CHINA TO GIVE MILITARY ADVISORS AND TROOPS TO SYRIA

Well, now it seems it's official, at least according to this story from last month, in Russia's RT: China will be sending military advisors, and probably much more, to Syria:

China’s military advisers ‘heading to Syria to help fight ISIS’ – report

One notes that the Chinese commitment to the campaign against ISIS is anything but a symbolic presence, involving not only a guided missile cruiser, but a Chinese aircraft carrier:

“The Chinese will be arriving in the coming weeks,” a Syrian army official told the Lebanon-based news website Al-Masdar Al-‘Arabi.

The report claims that a Chinese naval vessel is on its way to Syria with dozens of “military advisers” on board. They will reportedly be followed by troops.

The ship is said to have passed the Suez Canal in Egypt and be making its way through the Mediterranean Sea.

According to the website, the advisers will be joining Russian personnel in the Latakia region.

Meanwhile, an Israeli military news website, DEBKAfile, has cited military sources as saying that a Chinese aircraft carrier, the Liaoning-CV-16, has already been spotted at the Syrian port of Tartus on the Mediterranean coast. It was said to be accompanied by a guided missile cruiser.

For our high octane speculation purposes, the significance of this development can hardly be overlooked from any number of vantage points. Firstly, it symbolizes an effort of Mr. Putin to make the struggle against Islamic terrorism a truly international effort. And it is a geopolitical coup, for if the intention of the western oligarchs was, as I have suggested on occasion, to create the requisite conditions for Samuel Huntington's "clash of civilzations", then a direct confrontation with an Islamic world of a billion of inhabitants would require a commensurate counterweight: Enter China. With both Russia and China having significant Muslim populations, the war on terror could conceivably be spread by Washington and its allies to their own countries, and in this sense, what one may be looking at is a kind of BRICSA pre-emptive response, ala the USA's own unipolarist Bush doctrine, in reverse: if you harbor terrorists, then you're against us.

So where's the high octane speculation here? What's the next move for Mr. Putin's growing coalition?

I suspect the answer to that question is rather obvious: in order to demonstrate a true international effort, nations like India, with its own long history of struggle against terrorism, might also be on board for at least a symbolic commitment to the effort in Syria, and, one imagines, soon-to-come intervention in Iraq. Already Baghdad has communicated its openness to a Russian intervention in that country, one that additionally, Baghdad clarified by emphasizing the point: a Russian intervention, not an American one.

But there's something else afoot in the article:

Russian President Vladimir Putin was recently asked about Russia’s presence in Syria, to which he replied that Russia’s activities are limited to supplying weapons to the Syrian government, training personnel and providing humanitarian aid for the Syrian people.

“We act based on the United Nations Charter, i.e. the fundamental principles of modern international law, according to which this or that type of aid, including military assistance, can and must be provided exclusively to the legitimate government of one country or another, upon its consent or request, or upon the decision of the United Nations Security Council,” Putin told CBS’s ‘60 Minutes’ show.

Putin reiterated his support for Syria’s regular army – the army of President Bashar Assad. “He [Assad] is confronted with what some of our international partners interpret as an opposition. In reality, Assad’s army is fighting against terrorist organizations,” Putin said.

Russia’s president added that US attempts to train a Syrian opposition to take on Islamic State have failed. The US had aimed to prepare up to 12,000 fighters, but only 60 managed to complete the training and only four or five actually fought with the opposition, while others fled to IS with American weapons, Putin said, citing US Senate hearings.

“In my opinion, provision of military support to illegal structures runs counter to the principles of modern international law and the United Nations Charter,” he said. (Bold-italics emphasis added)

In other words, for Mr. Putin's Russia, part of the exercise is to expose American policy for the folly it has been, and he's not afraid to cite American sources to make his case. The clear message, as I indicated a few days ago, is an end to the unipolarist Bush-Wolfowitz doctrine of unilateral action and "regime change" through so-called private NGOs (non-government organizations) and groups posessing no diplomatic recognition in international law.

Or, to put it country simple, Moscow and Beiking are saying "enough is enough.'

There's a final point to notice here, and it's this:

In one of the latest atrocities committed by IS, the terror group used an online magazine to post pictures of two hostages, one Norwegian and one Chinese, putting the men up “for sale.”

One has come to expect all sorts of brutality and nonsense, and thus the implication of slavery should come as no surprise. The mistake, here, was to do so with a Chinese man. Woops. Not the brightest thing to do while Russian planes are bombing you into the stone age, with Chinese guided missile cruisers and aircraft carriers nearby. Unless, of course, there's an even deeper hidden agenda in play, namely, to suck Russia and China into a Middle Eastern vortex, and smash them. After all, it would play well to the home crowd with their noses in the Bible Maps of the Ages and endless Book of Revelation dispen(sen)sationalist "fulfillments of prophecy."

So what might lie in store for the future? If my high octane speculations are correct, then we can expect an expansion of the effort to encompass perhaps India, and even other BRICSA nations. One can also expect, and probably sooner rather than later, nervous visits of Saudi princes and Iranian mullahs to Beijing. And after that, one can expect more nervousness out of London, Paris, Rome, and Berlin. And finally, If Mr. Putin is to remain consistent in his invocations of international law, the rights of sovereign nations to effect policy through anything but non-recognized "groups: then sooner or later, Iranian support for Hezbollah must be addressed. My suspicion is eventually this will happen. If not, then I suspect the message to Tehran will be the same as to Riyadh: you can either be cooks, or entrees. If not, then Mr. Putin will have handed the USA and its dwindling and nervous allies a final diplomatic card by which both to extricate themselves, and to reinject themselves, into the mess.

See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

19 Comments

  1. yankee phil on November 2, 2015 at 7:14 am

    I think we’d all be rather remiss if we forgot how the Chinese embassy was intentionally targeted in Yugoslavia. I doubt they forgot.



  2. henry on October 29, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    @”The mistake, here, was to do so with a Chinese man”

    Its rather interesting the Chinese have dispatched military advisors and assets to Syria after ISIS held a Chinese hostage for ransom. Given ISIS is actually the ‘creation of Israel’; given Israel’s possible association with the disappearance of Malaysian Flight MH370; given the fact unlike flight MH17 and Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ8501 where the debris and bodies have not been located still, one might assume that at least some of the passengers onboard MH370 are still alive and been holding as hostages ‘somewhere’, and since ‘Israel’ is the ‘common denominator’ between ‘ISIS’ and ‘MH370 incident’, there is a remote possibility that some of the “Chinese hostage” from MH370 may be held in Syria? and these ‘Chinese hostages” arent ordinary hostages, but someone with high values for ‘ransom’?
    Perhaps “Syria” is really like what Cobra has referred to in his recent updates, that there is “a galactic proxy war” going on over there, if thats the case, it could explain the “mysteriousness” surrounding the vanishing of MH370, as it could have been a high-level message sent by and sent to ‘extraterrestrial’ players? In any case, i do suspect Chinese involvement in Syria has something more than meets the eyes.

    Remember Russia invited China to participate in a joint “anti-terrorism” exercise back in mid 2013, in the region of Chelyabinsk where a mysterious ‘meteor’ just happened to have appeared earlier in that region the same year?
    Is that a little clue that “anti-terrorism” in certain context may have deeper connotations than your ordinary “Radical Islam”, that it may be applied to “extraterrestrial” elements?
    Incidentally, thats what the 2014 movie “Monsters: Dark Continent” is about, isnt it? an insurgency of “alien monsters”(non-human extraterrestrials) are ravaging the Middle East? Is there acutally an element of truth in it?



  3. SandyBeach on October 27, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    Xi’s speech in London was masterful. He reminded Brits that the Chinese law for common men was 2,000 years old – to the Brits maybe 800 something years. He also warned about countries that don’t follow rule of law not being partners with the Chinese. I am fearful for the US people- the leadership is psychopathic and sociopathic. We could really pay dearly for their hubris. The dream of George Washington making the rounds on zerohedge.com was terrifying. I don’t have the link, but it’s a recent story. The US is truly isolated. I know the cabal has huge hidden accounts, but maybe Russia will default and begin to tank their funds. The only way I see for any balance is for them to completely lose funding and then be tried by the world’s leadership for war crimes. They will not leave the stage gracefully. I’m new to this site and it’s awesome! Thank you so much, Joseph Farrell for your work.



  4. T.J. on October 26, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    ANTI-SYRIA CABAL TOPPLES AS BRICS, EU, OTHERS & OBAMA ALIGN

    Not only China but also all BRICS nations are at least tacitly aligned with Russia on Syria.

    EU nations, hurt badly by anti-Russia sanctions, are now deserting the U.S.-led coalition.

    Iraq & Jordan are sharing intel with Russia, Iran & Syria; and Israel is backing off.

    Saudi princes & clerics are RWA to oust KSA king; and Turkey’s Erdogan is teetering.

    Without Obama’s knowledge, NeoCons & Neo-Libs used F16s to bomb civilian Aleppo electric & water plants — acts of desperation to surge Syrian refugees & to provoke Russia. Transparent.

    Obama has more enemies in U.S. than he has overseas. So, what’s a poor U.S. President to do? While continuing bellicose bluster in public, Obama tacitly aligns with Putin to expedite P5+1-style Syrian peace process meetings in Vienna toward a quick Syria deal.

    Given a choice amongst “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way,” Obama chose Door #3.

    Checkmated militarily, and with Assad agreeing to let Syrian peoples decide his fate in 2016 elections, U.S. coalition members know that they are defeated in Syria. Peace is at hand.

    When peace is inevitable, relax & enjoy it. Even if it’s a self-inflicted hand job.



    • zendogbreath on October 26, 2015 at 8:31 pm

      interesting take. simplest sounding even as most surprising version i’d considered so far. even when it does give obama more credit than he probably deserves.

      any help on defining RWA and KSA?

      thank you.



      • zendogbreath on October 26, 2015 at 8:42 pm

        tj,
        considering several probable moves ahead, where’s this leave obama (assuming he’s being at least a less bad cop for now) as vulnerable at home? what and where is neocon next moves? (and isn’t he the definition of one of rockefeller’s neolibs?)
        thank you
        zdb



  5. goshawks on October 24, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    One aspect of Chinese involvement allows their military to ‘come up to speed’ on aircraft carrier usage. It is one thing to have a physical carrier force. It is quite another to learn (sometimes the hard way) all the nuts-and-bolts level of experience that a sustained carrier force-projection requires. In a ‘permissive’ environment like the current Syrian situation, China can ‘wring out’ this force without a significant opposing-threat. That way, when they are finally in a ‘shooting’ war, they will have a middling chance of surviving…



  6. zendogbreath on October 24, 2015 at 8:16 pm

    apparently a few others have a problem seeing a way for the west vs east tag team match of the century working out to any of our benefits much.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-16/guest-post-false-eastwest-paradigm-and-end-freedom



  7. DownunderET on October 24, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    Another knife in the back of the neocons, boy they must be really squirming in D.C. and the Pentagon. Did anybody else notice that when Russia began to bomb ISIS in Syria, the pentagon immediately switched it’s focus to Afghanistan, and Obama said they would still have “lots” of ground forces there. They just HAVE TO have some kind of war going on don’t they !!!!



  8. herepog2 on October 24, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    I understand Hezbollah to be a multi-faceted movement that includes a legitimate political role in Lebanon. It has been characterized as a “terrorist” group, but I don’t believe that is anywhere near a uselful description for analytic purposes. There appears little likelihood that Iran can be persuaded to cut its ties with Hezbollah, especially while Hezbollah fighters die next to Iranian fighters in Syria.

    Here’s a recent take on Hezbollah by the Council on Foreign Relations

    CFR Backgrounders

    Hezbollah (a.k.a. Hizbollah, Hizbu’llah)
    Updated: January 3, 2014

    What is Hezbollah’s role in Lebanese politics?

    Under Lebanon’s 1943 National Pact, the prime minister must be Sunni, the president a Maronite Christian, and the speaker of parliament a Shiite—a system designed to accommodate the country’s primary religious groups, whose coexistence has long required delicate balancing.

    Hezbollah joined the Lebanese political process in the early 1990s following the 1989 Taif agreement—brokered by Saudi Arabia and Syria—which addressed some of Lebanon’s deep-seated sectarian challenges and brought an end to its civil war. However, the agreement allowed Hezbollah to remain armed, and Syrian troops stayed to keep the peace. Israel occupied southern Lebanon until 2000, while Syria eventually withdrew its forces in 2005.

    Hezbollah won eight parliamentary seats (out of 128 total) competing in national elections for the first time in 1992. Analysts note the group’s political strength grew significantly in May 2008 after Hezbollah was effectively granted veto power in the cabinet via the so-called Doha agreement. The accord helped bring an end to an eighteen-month-long political crisis that culminated in Hezbollah’s takeover of West Beirut.

    Hezbollah won ten parliamentary seats in the 2009 national elections. Just months later, the group’s leader, Hassan Nasrallah, updated Hezbollah’s manifesto and expounded on the merits of democracy. “Even Hezbollah has had to accommodate its fundamentalist religious messaging to a pluralistic culture in which piety and modernity exist side-by-side. This has required a gradual shift from the group’s Khomeinist roots toward a more contemporary Islamist nationalist approach,” wrote the nonpartisan U.S. Congressional Research Service in a 2011 report.

    Nasrallah restated Hezbollah’s rejection of an Israeli state in 2009: “This stand is firm, permanent, and final, and it does not tolerate any retreat or compromise even if the entire world recognizes Israel.”

    In recent years, Hezbollah has continued to play a consequential role in Lebanese politics. The group brought down the government of Saad Hariri, a Saudi-backed Sunni, in 2011. And though Hezbollah helped usher in a replacement in Prime Minister Najib Mikati, it forced his departure from office and a collapse of the government in March 2013 in a dispute over the Lebanese security forces.

    Hezbollah’s ongoing military engagement in Syria has invited reprisals from Sunni militants fighting the Assad regime, who threatened attacks in Beirut as long as Hezbollah remains active in Syria.

    In November, Hezbollah rival Future Bloc said it would only form a cabinet if “Hezbollah returns from Syria”; Nasrallah called this an “impossible condition,” and as of January 2014, the government remained gridlocked while Beirut appeared to be turning into a proxy battleground for the neighboring civil war.

    “Hezbollah is at a critical juncture in its political evolution. Its recent involvement in Syria has raised the question: is it a Lebanese nationalist organization, or a group more interested in protecting Shiite interests throughout the Middle East?” says CFR’s Danin. “In many ways, the war in Syria and Iran’s future posture in the region will determine Hezbollah’s fate. It could emerge from the Syrian war empowered and emboldened and able to play a dominant role in Lebanese politics. Conversely, it could emerge weakened, tarnished, and without a solid base even amongst Lebanon’s large Shiite community.”

    http://www.cfr.org/lebanon/hezbollah-k-hizbollah-hizbullah/p9155?breadcrumb=%2F



    • DaphneO on October 25, 2015 at 12:41 am

      I had thought Hezbollah was more a force for good than otherwise too. I know it has been their help in Syria that has enabled the Syrian Army to stay the course. Without them, I think they’d have gone under.
      Would love to hear Joseph’s thoughts on why he mentioned Hezbollah as a negative above.



  9. Button on October 24, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    “After all, it would play well to the home crowd with their noses in the Bible Maps of the Ages and endless Book of Revelation dispen(sen)sationalist ‘fulfillments of prophecy’.”

    Yes, I do get that horrible sense of synchronicity surrounding everything, the kind that precedes the conclusion of any good stage or film production. Or a cheap thriller novel.

    It seems we are rapidly nearing that moment just before the final act when the puppeteers drop their marionettes, kick away the theater, grab their stolen guns and point them at a crowd who only now realizes that all the exits are locked and their tickets were bought with blood.



  10. DanaThomas on October 24, 2015 at 10:34 am

    Chinese President Xi, in his speech at the Guildhall in the City of London, twice used the expression “golden age” in UK-China relations, echoing the similar expression already used by Prime Minister Cameron and the Chinese Ambassador to London. We should not be too surprised if we hear something soon about gold (real and not just metaphorical!) with respect to the two countries engaged in this new geopolitical axis.



    • henry on October 26, 2015 at 9:04 pm

      Like the British decision that led other Western nations in joining the AIIB, “the royal treatment” Xi got may be more than UK-China relations.

      http://www.china.org.cn/world/2015-10/26/content_36890151.htm

      “The Netherlands’ longstanding relationship with China continues. “We are very much aware of the enormous importance of China in the world,” Koenders explained. “I believe in what is called ‘the peaceful rise of China’. The country is growing economically and socially. I see the possibility of China and Europe working closely together.”

      Koenders cited China’s Belt and Road Initiative, as well as the launching of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, as inspiring ideas to meet the infrastructural needs in the region.

      “It shows that the world is changing in terms of international institutions. It is important that we work together to face common challenges in the world, such as equality, climate change, infrastructure deficit, poverty alleviation and regional security,” he said.”

      It seem ‘the one Belt and Road Initiative’ is causing some ‘unusual geopolitical developments’, like South Korea’s President symbolically positioning herself close to the leaders of China and Russia while she was attending the V-Day parade in China recently, not so ‘unusually’ if taken into account of the remarks made by Park Geun-hye at the 2013 International Conference on “Global Cooperation in the Era of Eurasia”, for Russia and China has already formally agreed to link their respective ‘Eurasian Economic Union’ and “Silk Road initiative” this year. Then its no accident that the Dutch FM mentions ‘the Belt and Road Initiative’ as well as AIIB in light of recent visit to China by the Dutch royals, which also happened to coincide with Xi’s recent stay at the Buckingham Palace where the British also voiced their support of the initiative.

      For “the one Belt and Road Initiative” to work, one needs a stabilized Middle East environment, so it is in both China and Russia’s strategical interests to ‘neutralize’ radical Islam especially a group like ISIS in that region. Given some of the countries that have vested interest in Syrian and Gulf affairs are also countries affiliated with SCO, like Iran and Turkey, and with Egypt holding joint naval operation with the Russians and with Chinese naval ships visiting Egypt, plus not only Egyptian President Sisi attended the Beijing V-Day parade, but also dispatched his Egyptian honor guards to participate in the parade, Egypt might end up joining SCO, as well as Syria, follow that of Afghanistan, in other words, for an organization that vows to fight ‘terrorism’, its no surprise Russia and China have now clashed with ISIS in Syria, and no surprise Islamic countries with ties to Radical Islam are either already part of SCO or caught between SCO and NATO/US coalition, its SCO’s ‘natural’ extension to a region to protect its interest and challenging and replacing the military dominance of ‘Western coalition’ in that region. And for the British and Dutch Royals to support “the Belt and Road initiative”, with German and French leaders are duo to visit Beijing in the next days and month, the ‘Western coalition’ may have already showing signs of collapse within.

      @”The mistake, here, was to do so with a Chinese man”

      Its rather interesting the Chinese have dispatched military advisors and assets to Syria after ISIS held a Chinese hostage for ransom. Given ISIS is actually the ‘creation of Israel’; given Israel’s possible association to the disappearance of Malaysian Flight MH370; given the fact unlike flight MH17 and Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ8501 where the debris and bodies have not been located still, one might assume that at least some of the passengers onboard MH370 are still alive and been holding as hostages ‘somewhere’, and since ‘Israel’ is the ‘common denominator’ between ‘ISIS’ and ‘MH370 incident’, there is a remote possibility that some of the “Chinese hostage” from MH370 may be held in Syria? and these ‘Chinese hostages” arent ordinary hostages, but someone with high values for ‘ransom’?
      Perhaps “Syria” is really like what Cobra has referred to in his recent updates, that there is “a galactic proxy war” going on over there, if thats the case, it could explain the “mysteriousness” surrounding the vanishing of MH370, as it could have been a high-level message sent by and sent to ‘extraterrestrial’ players? In another case, i do suspect Chinese involvement in Syria has something more than meets the eyes.



  11. Aridzonan_13 on October 24, 2015 at 10:12 am

    It’s worth repeating, that the Russians and Chinese have a lot more to lose, than the US from a united Islam. Where their borders abut many a Muslim nation. Let’s not forget the whole India / Pakistan dispute. Now, how all those Muslim immigrants are finding the funds two swarm Europe, is a very interesting question. CAF stated that the Muslim immigrants she recently saw in Europe, were mostly MAM’s with new clothes, back packs and cell phones. Hmmm? Now, who’s paying to ship them to the US is another question.



    • zendogbreath on October 24, 2015 at 6:30 pm

      MAM’s?



  12. basta on October 24, 2015 at 10:09 am

    Well, things are moving fast and are quite fluid; Zero Hedge has just posted an article headlined “Russia Takes over the Mid-East: Moscow gets greenlight for strikes in Iraq, sets up alliance with Jordan.”

    Iraq was inevitable but Jordan, which is the ME version of Costa Rica and with a Princeton-educated queen, is a real shocker. The borders of the Empire are simply crumbling, the wheels have totally come off the USISISIS bus, and that headline looks pretty darn accurate if this is true.

    Karma. Mess with it at your peril.

    As for China, at this point it looks like a pile-on. And after all, they were nuked recently, let’s not forget. And their stock market manipulated for fun and profit (at least they believe). And they just had a bout of ZioconNGO/color protests in Hong Kong that the puppetmasters hoped would spread to the Mainland but instead fizzled. So yes, I’m sure they’re pretty much fed up with the Cabal as well and will now begin to clean house with the Russian coalition.

    Topsy turvy geopolitics here; this is what happens when all you do is operate by way of deception. Eventually the decieved gang up on you and call you out.

    And yes, apparently there are a lot of insane fundie dispensationalists who are useful idiots to the Cabal sitting in the Pentagram. Precious bodily fluids and all that.



    • goshawks on October 24, 2015 at 10:13 pm

      Basta, I am glad you consistently bring up the times/areas when ‘nukes’ (may not be fission) were used. Many folks simply cannot wrap their heads around this. If enough of us mention it, perhaps some will raise their heads out of the sand and do due-diligence. (Paid disinformation-mongers or limited-hangout sites aside.)



  13. marcos anthony toledo on October 24, 2015 at 9:37 am

    This is China payback for the West interference in China’s western territories. And messing in it’s business affairs around the World and denying China traditional cultural, political spheres of influence.



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