SIGNS OF TROUBLE IN THE (OUT)HOUSE OF SAUD?

Last Thursday  I did my News and Views ffrom the Nefarium about the  increasing signs that the (out)house of Saud may be in deep trouble, and not only in trouble, but on the menu, refering to this Daily Bell analysis of a recent article by F. William Engdahl:

House of Saud May Be in Danger of Falling

The sequence of events has, indeed, been interesting. There have been suggestions that the (out)house of Saud was persuaded by some in Washington to drastically lower the price of oil as a means of economic warfare against Russia, and some have alleged that ther Suadis were also also hoping to pull the rug from underneath the emerging American fracking industry. Either way one slices it, it has left Riyadh in a financial mess, with the (out)house of Saud actually having to issue bonds to cover it budget deficits.Additionally, it is now recognized - and hae been for some time -  that the Saudis have been sponsors of a great deal of Islamic terrorist organizations and front groups.

Here, as elsewhere, one is getting a set of mixed messages. Perhaps sensing the "sea change" of attitudes, the (out)house of Saud - and my thanks to a listener of News and Views for correcting me on this point - then hypocritcally announced that it was putting together and intending to lead a new coalition of Muslim states against terrorism:

Did Saudi Arabia Just Clear The Way For An Invasion Of Syria And Iraq?

Saudi Arabia announces 34-state Islamic military alliance against terrorism

The problem with the coalition, however, is that it appears, according to some sources, that some of the nations allegedly on the list of coalition partners, didn't even know they were part of a coalition:

Role of Saudi-led ‘military alliance’ put to question as some members reject participation

The last article from RT puts it bluntly:

The international community has welcomed Saudi Arabia’s initiative to create a coalition against terrorism. However, its “military and ideological” role has been met with confusion even among members, some of whom didn’t know they were included.

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Pakistan, one of the coalition members announced by Saudi Arabia, has denied its participation. Pakistan's Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry told journalists that he got to know of the coalition through news reports, adding that Pakistan was not consulted about it, Dawn newspaper reported on Wednesday. He added that Islamabad was seeking details about the misunderstanding.

Malaysia, another Muslim country which was put by Riyadh in the list of the 34 participants, also denied taking part in the military alliance. Malaysian Defense Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein told journalists that Kuala Lumpur will not join Riyadh, however it will continue to be part of the international fight against terrorism, the Rakyat Post reported.

So what's going on? I suspect, in my high octane speculation, and as I suggested above, the (out)house of Saud may be sensing that something has changed, that there has been a "deep shift" in the deep geopolitics of the world, and that it may now be "on the menu."  After all, one cannot fight a "war on terror" without addressing its principal sources, and the (out)house of Saud is one of them. There was recently another indication that this "sea change" may indeed be occurring, and it came this way:

ISIS threat to POPE: Fears for Holy Father as terror nuts plot 'FINAL MASSACRE' in Rome

And within the USA of course, GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump made recent reference to the ties between the Bush family and the Saudis, highlighting again the murky connections of that nation to the 9/11 events. Threats against the pope only highlight the real degree of paranoia and fanaticism of the various groups supported by Riyadh and the ultimate aims of the regime itself.

So why the annoucement from the (out)house of Saud, when it had to have known that its grand coalition was lacking the participation - and even the knowledge - of two key members, i.e., nuclear Pakhistan, and Malaysia? In my high octane speculation of the day I suspect that it is because one is looking at a regime increasingly desperate, and factionalizing. It is now involved in expensive wars which, coupled with its welfare state, have forced it to issue bonds. In that atmosphere, it's a desperation move. And Riyadh knows, ultimately, it cannot sustain a concerted military effort by the West or anyone else, to seize its oilfields and leave the regime sitting high and dry. Even blowing up the oil fields  won't help, because the only thing that would accomplish would be to revivify Russian production, resurrect the American fracking industry, and leave Iran, its hated enemy, in the catbird seat. And it knows the enemies is has created knows this too. Worse, it also knows that the entire regime is ripe for indictment for crimes against humanity. It has, basically, one thing left to offer the world, and that's the terrorism and brutality for which it is justifiably infamous, and its "anti-terror" coalition is rightly seen for the hypocrisy that it is.

...and its sponsored organizations have just declared war on the papacy...

See you on the flip side...

(My thanks to all of you who supplied these and other articles about this story)

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

20 Comments

  1. Nidster - on December 28, 2015 at 11:06 pm

    It appears that President Erdogan of Turkey is also ‘on the menu’. A report by the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) states that President Putin has issued orders authorizing Federation military and intelligence forces to protect the Kurdish peoples of Turkey, Iraq, and Syria against “all threats” and “at all costs”. No word on the Kurds under the Iranian’s thumb was mentioned in the report.

    Russia (Mr. Putin) supports the Kurds, and will apply force in retaliation against the Turkish “backstabbers”. Mr. Putin has further promised that “Turkey’s domestic political problems will come to a new level and submerge that country into full chaos, especially if President Putin begins supplying Kurd forces with the heavy weapons they’ve requested”, exactly as Stratfor had earlier warned Erdogan.

    http://awdnews.com/top-news/putin-orders-military-to-protect-kurds-“at-all-costs”-as-“war-of-the-century”-nears



  2. goshawks on December 22, 2015 at 11:59 pm

    Not sure where to put this, since the Su-24 post is no longer even on the main page. Is the following a true coincidence?

    thesaker dot is/russian-diplomacy-achieved-a-trio-of-security-council-resolutions-over-the-last-month-which-give-russia-a-decisive-advantage/

    “Jordan has however in recent weeks distanced itself from the other members of the anti-Assad coalition – a fact that became clear during the Jordanian King’s recent visit to Moscow, which coincidentally happened on the same day that the Russian SU24 was shot down.”



    • DanaThomas on December 23, 2015 at 10:16 am

      As I mentioned in some other posts, it will only a matter of time before somebody gives signs of wanting to play the “Hashemite card”… the Moscow visit on that day was conveniently off the radar.



  3. goshawks on December 22, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    In one way, I welcome this talk of the Saudi regime being in trouble. Ever since the hijacker teams of 9/11 were carefully-selected to be Saudi citizens, I knew that the Saudis were to be the ‘fall back’ bad guys for 9/11.

    Once the average citizen (not to mention the armed forces and intelligence agencies) knew of the huge lies told around 9/11, enough ‘clues’ had been pre-spread-around to implicate the Saudi powers-that-be. Now, I am waiting for some ‘smoking gun’ to be trotted-out about the Saudis to distract the public (once again) from who really engineered and carried-out 9/11.

    This bad-mouthing of the Saudi regime must be the sign that some 9/11-wall has been breached…



  4. duncan mckean on December 22, 2015 at 12:37 am

    here comes??

    more red,blue velvet pink revolutions. Iceland summer.arab spring. French fall..the 1% ers. black lives matter.climate change.y2k..chicken little meets never cry wolf..where is dudly do right? is it a neo con or is that commie..this is a chess game that doesn’t look like its going as planned ??



  5. TRM on December 22, 2015 at 12:09 am

    There have been 3 very large Saudi sized discoveries of oil. Uganda (on land), Levant/east Mediterranean (off shore) and one other. So how do you prevent them from coming to market? Drive the price down and “invest” in the companies that have development rights. Then you can pace out the deployment. Dangerous gamble but you are dead anyway if it comes on line sooner and you can get the assets for less than half their real value.



  6. Mike on December 21, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    Thought I would dig up this article by Wayne Masden, a independent investigative reporter in Washington, written about a year ago. Seems to ring true. Apparently the Saudi’s were talked into fracking some of their oldest fields, only to find there was no way to stop pumping the oil out without permanently loosing the wells. The Saudi’s may have no choice but to keep pumping.

    December 17-18, 2014 — The CIA-engineered oil glut to bring down Putin and Maduro

    John Brennan’s long familiarity with Saudi Arabia, owing to the time he spent there as the CIA station chief in Riyadh in the 1990s and his knowledge of Saudi oil operations, has paid off. WMR has learned that Brennan’s agents inside Saudi Aramco convinced the firm’s management and the Saudi Oil Ministry to begin fracking operations to stimulate production in Saudi Arabia’s oldest oil fields. By pumping salt water into older wells, some at a depth of 3 to 6 thousand feet, an inordinate amount of pressure was built up. The CIA’s oil industry implants knew what would occur when the fracking operations began. Due to the dangerously high water pressure, the Saudis were forced continuously pump oil until the pressure became equalized. That process is continuing. If the Saudis ceased pumping oil, they would permanently lose the wells to salt water contamination. In the current “pump it or lose it” situation, the Saudis are forced to pump at a rate that may take up to 5 years before they can slow down production rates.

    The net result of the CIA-inspired fracking operations, which the Saudis were warned not to pursue by petroleum engineers working for some foreign-based firms like Schlumberger, is that there will be an oil supply glut for the next 5 years. The glut will be followed by a reduction in Saudi oil production unless new oil fields are brought on line. There is now a major push by U.S. and Canadian oil companies to bring the Keystone XL pipeline from Canada to the United States to offset the expected sharp rise in oil prices in five years.

    The CIA operation to frack Middle Eastern oil fields was not only limited to Saudi Arabia. WMR has learned from oil industry sources that similar fracking caused over production problems in Kuwait and Iraq.

    The result of the sudden decline in oil prices has resulted in heavy damage to the economies of the CIA-targeted countries of Russia, Iran, and Venezuela. Brennan and his economic warfare operatives banked on the Saudi over-production to harm the economies of all three countries and the CIA has not been disappointed. The CIA figures that the governments of Vladimir Putin in Russia, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in Iran, and Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela will have long since collapsed and been replaced by pro-Western regimes within 5 years. Already, from his base in Switzerland, exiled Russian tax evader billionaire Mikhail Khodorkovsky has called for Putin’s overthrow and even his assassination. Meanwhile, the U.S. Congress and the Obama administration have taken cues from the CIA to impose devastating economic sanctions on both Russia and Venezuela. Similar congressional legislation to increase sanctions on Iran is pending.



    • zendogbreath on December 29, 2015 at 12:43 am

      thank you mike. lost touch with wayne madsen. he’s been on the mark on topic for years. saudis have been pumping the sea water in for years perhaps decades. gwahar has been running weaker for years. from all indicators, gwahar peaked 2004. that was before i’d considered abiotic oil. if that’s the case and they’ve been pumping brined water in for more than a decade, that should give some interesting results in following decades

      from the little we’ve seen here and a couple other sites on abiotics, it sounds like replenishment of old wells takes about 40 years, right? wonder how long it takes for replenishment to clean out the seawater. or if it ever does?



      • zendogbreath on December 29, 2015 at 12:47 am

        btw,
        anyone here ever drill down on google maps at 33 n, 33 e? curious looking around the other night on scott onstott’s site got me to thinking. so i looked and thought about all the goings on and struggles to control that little bit of sea and access to it. and lately, we’re hearing dribs and drabs about nat gas and oil rights to the part of the world. anyone?



  7. basta on December 21, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    Remember “peak oil?”

    It came a few years after “Y2K’ and was rolled out (conveniently enough)just before “global warming” — oh sorry, that didn’t play so well in the end, did it? Facts got in the way and it was retooled to “climate change”… Andyway, that was right around the time of “SARS” and “bird flu,” but almost a decade before “ebola,” but right on point with the PNAC agenda to lay waste to the ME/NA so that Israel could stand tall among its neighbors (who were to all have their knee-caps broken by the Zio FrankenZombie, the USofA, so that actually these regimes could not stand at all, thus ensuring that Israel would indeed tower over them), a long-term agenda which was sold as “regime change,” later the new-and-improved “arab spring,” which worked much better in focus groups.

    Anyway, back to “peak oil.” Another Big Lie. Oil and gas are springing out of just about every deep hole dug everywhere, and just about everyone has it. Lots of it. Huge fields fould all the time. Coinciding with the slow-motion unraveling of the world economy, the inevitable denouement of the “Great Recession” of 2008.

    After having been ramped up to over $150 in the summer of 2008 (foreknowledge by the Seven Sisters? Nonsense! That’s just a “conspiracy theory!), WTI currently trades at well under $40 a barrel and may soon break through a mid-30s handle. The long and the short of it, we’ve got way too much oil. — Well, not “we” as in you and I, but “we” as in them. The PTB.

    So much new oil is out there in fact, so many new fields and vast reserves discovered, that it might just be best to take some of it offline for everyone’s benefit (“everyone,” of course, excludes you and me and everyone we know, but nonetheless is true in a global market context, you see).

    So, with the global economy in a shambles, a market glut projected for the next decade or more, and petroleum profits now severely reduced while new players enter all the time adding yet more production, what’s Mr Global Oil to do? Who is expendable?

    Who could be tossed under the bus as a quick fix without too much effort, complaint or regret? Hmmm, let me think on that… I’m sure someone out there must fit the bill…



    • Robert Barricklow on December 21, 2015 at 5:53 pm

      The assembly-line of manufactured psyche-ops w/ their pre-scripted media kits, are continually being rolled out to perpetuate myths, or generate new ones. Like the Rockefeller myth of oil being biotic[it’s abiotic]; but the creator[s] of these myths, like the myths themselves, are all going the way of the dinosaur[s]. The truth[s] are putting the Big Squeeze on them for a change. Now that’s real change.



  8. DownunderET on December 21, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    So the “White Knights” are in trouble again, it seems nobody likes these head choppers and pushes of terrorism, well frankly they had it coming. I think the world wouldn’t blink an eye if the days of Rolls Royce’ and plush palaces were over, and none too soon for my liking.



  9. DAVID GOLDMAN on December 21, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    Perhaps the fall of the Saudis is the signal that the petro era is ending, what with the Rockefeller Foundation selling off petro assets and the creation of the Breakthrough Energy Coalition.



  10. Robert Barricklow on December 21, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    It’s an add to potential customers.
    Join us and sign up for oil and/or $$$$$.



    • Robert Barricklow on December 21, 2015 at 12:53 pm

      …details about the misunderstanding…

      [How Much?]



  11. marcos toledo on December 21, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    The plan seems for Judeo-Christo-Islam to take each other out ala “The General Dies At Dawn” scenario. Or to put it another way get rid of the completion to TPTB plan to turn Earth into Slave World-Prison Planet. It pitting barbarians against barbarians in a demolition derby of mutual destruction.



  12. Aridzonan_13 on December 21, 2015 at 12:05 pm

    This is definitely something to watch. The fact that the US can no longer hold up or has pulled it’s support from the Saudis marks a huge change in geo-politics. I’m still waiting for the karmatic blow back for our support of a family / country that has been one of them most repressive regimes in the world. The Saud SOP’s of slavery, etc. should have been front page news. However, they’ve simply purchased all the press and P.R. to keep their autrocities out of the US media. Not, to mention U.S. presidents hold hands and skip with Saudi royals in the Rose Garden. Is a hint they have way to much influence..



  13. old97polarcat on December 21, 2015 at 10:10 am

    So, who among Mr. Global’s ranks is in a position to take out the Kingdom and would have a long-term motive for doing so?



  14. WalkingDead on December 21, 2015 at 6:10 am

    Would this be the same Papacy that supposedly owns the world through forged documents by Popes such as the “Donation of Constantine”? The same religious organization whose apostasy has made it one of the most corrupt organizations on earth hiding under religious banners. The same organization who would be the worlds moral authority. Its governing body is in the same boat with the rest of the worlds governing bodies now, infiltrated by intelligence and controlled by truly evil people.
    Those within the church who truly believe have been sold out by its leadership like most of the rest of us. They’re fair game.



    • DanaThomas on December 21, 2015 at 9:52 am

      The Italian press, especially the mouthpieces of NATO disinformation, have been duly reporting so-called “ISIS threats” for a long time, with all the “juicy details” of video clips made-in-hollywood and distributed by that certain well-known channel. The tone of the messages and the content of the videos seem to be enough to put some doubts into the minds of many reasonable people.
      The target of these psyops seems to be global rather than Italian, I think it’s safe to say that most people in Italy look with a jaded eye at anything coming out of or pertaining to the Vatican, whatever the spin put on the alleged “news”.
      That’s not to say of course that any enventual untoward incident would not be exploited to the hilt by screaming headlines and hysterical politicians of various extractions setting themselves up as rather unlikely “defenders of Christian civilization”.
      In any case, the polemics over Vatican finances are still rumbling on, since a recent book with alleged leaked information on the matter of the international auditors appointed by the pope and other parties involved. All this agitation may be connected with the looming demise of the Riyadh-based petrodollar – a demise which unfortunately, some parties would be willing to stop at nothing just to delay.



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