DR ANDREA ROSSI’S ECAT REACTOR NEARING THE END OF A YEAR-LONG ...
It is now approaching nearly a year for the commercial test of Dr. Andrea Rossi's E-CAT low energy nuclear "cold fusion" reactor, and the tests appear to have been successful, according to this very important article shared by Mr. K.H.:
There's much to absorb in this article, but there are two things in particular that caught my eye, and I hope yours too, for if they are true, then we are indeed on the verge of an energy revolution, one that, in the long term, will remake the financial and geopolitical world. Here's the first one:
Earlier, some sources having visited the test plant told me that the COP, Coefficient of Performance, i.e. the ratio between output power and input power for control, was in the range 20—80, meaning that the heat plant was consuming 12—50 kW while producing 1 MW—the average consumption of about 300 Western households, including electricity, space heating, water heating and air conditioning.
I have also been told that the total amount of fuel—mostly harmless elements such as lithium, hydrogen and nickel, according to Andrea Rossi’s granted patent on the technology—was in the range of tenths of grams. And supposedly the charge has never been changed during the year. On the other hand, after one year’s run, the reactors are now being recharged for further operation. (Italics-bold emphasis added, bold emphasis in the original)
I'd give my eye teeth for people to quit talking about "over unity" and "free energy" and to start talking about the COP or coefficient of performance, for this is indeed the significant thing, and hear the implications are clear, for the ratio of input to output power is staggering, and as the article notes, this one truck-trailer-sized reactor is producing clean cheap energy for a few grams of common materials for about three hundred average Western households.
Let's stop and consider the ramifications of this technology for poorer regions of the world that are without realiable power. Without reliable power, it becomes impossible to have good agriculture, reliable sewers, a decent water system, or manufacture. In other words, this technology could provide a key means for poorer nations to help their people, without falling prey to "economic hit men" and expensive loans from the financially predatory Anglosphere. The real question for the developers of this technology is how to keep it from falling prey to that class. We'll get back to that in a moment.
Then there occurs a statement which, to my mind, indicates that we may indeed be looking at a reliable story, and that's this statement:
"The test has been undertaken by Andrea Rossi and his US industrial partner Industrial Heat, and according to Rossi, commercialisation of similar industrial heat plants will be initiated as soon as possible, provided that the result is positive. Industrial Heat has acquired the right to produce and sell E-Cat based technology in, as far as I have been told, North, Central and South America, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates."(All emphases added)
Obviously, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have a keen interest in such technologies, for ultimately, they spell the end of the age of oil, and the end of their wealth and power, and more importantly, their need to diversify the basis of their economies and national infrastructures. Their interest in this technology makes eminent sense, from their point of view, and signals that indeed the technology is viable.
Which brings us to the other nations in the list: South America - by which we can understand the two big South American powers, Argentina and Brazil - China, and Russia. In short, we're only two nations shy of the BRICSA block, for only South Africa and India are not mentioned in the list. I strongly suspect that this is an indicator that Dr. Rossi, and whomever may be advising him, have wisely dispersed their technology and tests precisely in order to avoid any attempt by the financial parasites of the Anglosphere from gaining a monopoly over it, and suppressing it. Granted, Russia, which is a large hydrocarbons energy supplier in its own right, has much to lose, perhaps as much as Saudi Arabia and the Emirates, but only over the short term. Russian and Chinese engineers could be - and I suspect already are - trying to make the technology more efficient. In the long term, neither Russia nor China have anything to gain by a perpetuation of the hydrocarbon era.
We're not quite there yet, of course, but the test - and the various nations which are interested in the technology - are key indicators that whether we wish to admit it or not, we are entering the age of the decline of oil. It will be slow, it will be gradual, but it has begun. One need only imagine a landscape dotted occasionally not with large electrical power plants and substations, but rather, small plants more dispersed around the landscape.
See you on the flip side...
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Um. This is hopeful but my nephews and one of my nieces are dual Nigerian-American citizens. For technology of this sort to make a difference in Africa there has to be a level of security which is rare – not because of extremism but because of corruption. The horrible rape of Timbuktu, for example, was abetted by the stronger interest of the army of Mali in battling criticism than insurgents. While some people were surprised that legislators were accused in complicity with the atrocities of Boko Haram in Nigeria, those of us with knowledge of the situation already believed it. And this page from 2003 is very relevant:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3135416.stm
I guess I’m saying I really believe the world is perilously corrupt and this is the reason for most of the terrorism. And that this has been impacting our development – economically and technologically, which is what you are saying. However the pettiness and pervasiveness of this corruption makes many of these ideas about development fatuous, and that Franklin was right that people who choose a little security over liberty will get neither. Cell phones ARE a game-changer in Africa – because it’s now so much easier to create uncontrollable networks.
But again widespread operation of these developments such as the ECAT reactor depends on a level of lawfulness and security I don’t see developing. Quite the opposite. As technological costs fall (and they are) the ability of communities around the world to support them are falling faster (the number and nature of many of the more upsetting kidnappings shows that).
All of which means however you look at this I am less optimistic than you.
jplatt,
appreciate the perspective. not the first nor the last that a friend from outside the narrow demographic i live in and hence the narrow focus i’m aware of, resets my view of what’s possible and likely.
does the fish rot from the head down uniformly? is there the possibility that such resource wealth brought by an e-cat will not only require security forces to protect it but will also give the advantage security forces need in order to be able to protect it?
Pardon my saying so but no I do not believe that the security forces are getting any long-term advantage in our arms races. As the saying goes (and I am a “liberal”) when guns are outlawed only outlaws will use guns. The Internet has already been outlawed. It was intended as a database which would protect information from nuclear blasts the only way possible – by copying it to a redundant world wide network. Now we’ve restricted the diffusion of information (usually with at best mixed success) and are “cutting back” on the redundancy so commerce can be more efficient BOTH terrorism and many technical disciplines are moving to the “Dark Web”. In other words what fuels security depends on sharing the terrorists’ resources.
I like to say, William Gibson described a dystopia in his novels we spent exactly the next twenty years installing. And the groups I mentioned – the Islamic Extremists – are as cunning and cynical as the Mafia people – who were very prominent here in Providence RI when I was a child.
Blowback is very real. I’m not saying there is no false flag, just that there are many successful for now operations going on which are not false flags. To some of us what Snowden revealed was the collection of data, aside from its legality or illegality, in a manner which precluded the extraction of the information allegedly sought in a timely manner.
I guess you can say that the biggest problem I have with Dr. Farrell’s ideas is that he seems to believe the people who did cyberattacks on the California Power Grid HAVE to have been State Actors. A script kiddie is a kid who knows how to write down or copy the commands which will hack into things – and it is only since the first attacks there has been serious discussion of locking down the IoT from script kiddies.
Again, there is a philosophical issue in the above paragraph. I’m not saying they weren’t State or Deep State actors, just that ignorant teenagers could have done as much damage.
And in an environment such as Africa where it’s so common to hear about gas explosions which killed large groups of people waiting to steal gas from the gas main which had been tapped into, we are discussing people who would cheerfully use the e-cat’s energy to destroy, or threaten to destroy it even if it did mean their own destruction (life is cheap and most of them are stupid which is not to say most Africans are – they are desperate).
The fish does not rot from the head down uniformly, but there is no possibility that the resource wealth brought by an e-cat will give security forces worldwide an advantage not also available to terrorists, gangsters and others.
The biggest thing about Andrea Rossi’s E-CAT low energy nuclear “cold fusion” reactor that I don’t ‘get’ is the containment of the testing to labs. As long as there is the slightest doubt in the integrity of the tests, it will be delayed indefinitely. Paid ‘skeptics’ have done that hatchet-job on many observations (swamp gas) and technologies for centuries. Rossi is just one more ‘sitting duck’, in that regard.
The only way this technology is going to break-out is for some investor/entrepreneur to build a large powerplant to run his concern. Think Amazon-scale. Perhaps Musk would build a powerplant for his projects. That way, skeptics would be laughed off the lot. Proof is in the pudding, so to speak.
In my mind, Rossi is shooting himself in the foot (and probably endangering his own life) by not having some risk-takers building industrial-scale powerplants, NOW. Build the first few for cost-of-materials, if you have to. Get it out of the lab!
goshawks,
are you familiar with rossi’s bio? between biofuel development and the e-cat, i’m curious how he’s surived to date. and how state dept pulled him to ussa. even more curious how this system was not crushed outright years ago. given his age, is there some system in place to keep work going on e-cat after he’s gone?
as for an oligarch to get behind it and take it out of the lab, which one? musk is a case in point. sure the family comes off as early adopters and technology break through artists.
i read the company and industry list and it’s clear, musk won’t be backing anything that leapfrogs tesla electric cars, tesla powerwalls battery walls, solar city leased pv systems or any of their other centralized cash cows. he’s as in-q-tel and mkultra as zuckerberg, beiber and omidyar.
so i need to imagine an oligarch doing as well who won’t be shooting his own foot by bringing rossi out of the lab.
as usual goshawks, you made me think – realized what’s bothered me all these years about ‘atlas shrugged’ (besides ayn rand’s obvious hypocritical nature). realizing now that john galt taking tech away from society that wasn’t paying him well enough for it is not a threat of the future if tech artists don’t get their due. it’s an after the fact rationalization for tech suppression artists like rockefellers and morgans. think these oligarchs seriously consider themselves underpaid gifts from the deity to society?
so your premise is that rossi needs a seriously big brother to body guard and angel invest. he needs to have vinod khosla to take e-cat on, the same way he took on cisco’s router. or given khosla’s recent buying and limiting public access on martin’s beach, rossi might do better to look elsewhere for that vc angel/body guard.
seriously. who, besides in-q-tel, is gonna touch rossi? and given the state dept’s efforts to get him out of italy it probably already is in-q-tel thus far.
ZDB, my choice as ‘body guard and angel invest’ would be some idealistic nerd/dweeb who has just ‘cashed-out’ of a successful company and has time/energy on his/her hands. Young enough and naive enough to risk losing it all, just for the adventure/experience. I know there are some like that out there…
When it comes down to good guys vs bad guys, I believe it sorts along the lines of open-system vs closed-system. Closed-system means that it is a zero-sum game and for every gain there must be a corresponding loss. Open-system involves creation itself (sometimes literally) and allows for win-win situations. I know which one I am backing…
Every day, I run into the commissar – the party line modulator.
Goshawks appears to get his share as well.
Two innocuous words, was a rely to Basta, commenting on a great post. Just two words, that’s it! And the party line nixed it.
Seems the only software technology that’s purposely straight-jacketed.
That made it!
Will keep a list to check later, like Goshawks does.
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Jon Rappoport’s latest interview with fired professor, James Tracy, shows how copyrights are being used as censorship vehicle[worldwide].
Assuming that this technology’s been around for sometime, probably in some off-world manifestations; why speed the current modus operandi slow-drip process up – at this point in time?
Either it is purposed by those whose been at the helm of these and other black arts; or, by others who are making them think they’re in control?
I keep coming back to ominous tea-leaf foreboding of some entity[s] that are steering/timing this for some singularity event[transhumanism/AI, etc.] – synchronizing toward a point of no return – only realizing, just too late – the hidden meaning[s] behind the ancient – method to madness, sinister timeline.
This is indeed a watershed event in new energy.
I second the motion on talking about COP versus “over unity” or even “efficiency.” Efficiency and coefficient of performance are not the same thing, and are usually confused by scientists as well as the alt energy crowd.
Bearden has some great discussions illustrating the difference, and I’ll quickly recap for those who are new to the topic:
Efficiency is the ratio of total energy input to total energy output in a system. Thus it is indeed impossible to ever have more than 100 percent efficiency – by definition.
Coefficient of performance (COP) is the ratio of operator input energy to total output (or usable output), which can easily be way over 100 percent: as in a sail powered ship, a windmill, hydroelectric dam, solar cell, heat pump, etc.
The example Bearden gives is the common heat pump for heating and cooling systems. Common backyard heat pumps are only about 50 percent efficient – meaning that half the total energy input does not do any of the work desired, but is lost in friction, system leaks, etc.
However, such heat pumps ARE “over unity” devices in terms of COP, as they pull 3 to 4 times as much energy from the local environment as they use in terms of operator input energy (i.e. the electricity you supply to run them).
Likewise, windmills and sailing ships pull most (or all) of the energy which does the actual work of the system from the local environment, hence have an essentially infinite COP. As JPF says, THIS is the figure we should be talking about.
Rossi’s work was one of the things Eugene Mallove was hopeful about before his assassination. Rossi’s work will probably be one of the lead technologies of the “new energy” frontier, as it is still bulky and complex enough to allow sufficient centralization to maintain (or transition) the current control structure’s command of energy.
The fact that it has been allowed to go so far, and to be replicated by “reputable” 3rd parties, tells me that the picture has changed, and we are indeed looking at the early stages of the move to more exotic energy technologies.
Personally, I still want something like the Klimov tourmaline/solar cell nanotechnology eternal power cell. Unfortunately, those are still too expensive, exotic, and powerful for commoners like us to be allowed have. To have all devices self-powered by cells which never stop producing energy will be great. Hard to meter, though, as J.P. Morgan would be quick to point out.
Space based applications of Klimov’s technology would significantly reduce the weight of the craft. One would have to wonder if this technology has vanished into the dark world as you don’t find much on it after it’s initial release.
I would think DARPA would be all over it for “laser pistols”, “laser bazookas”, and a myriad of other such destructive weaponry.
Why are these things never used for constructive purposes when they come out?
Over-unity as a simple but definitive term to imply that a device can operate at a COP level of 1.0+
Energy from the environment around us and extending into infinity in all directions is free for our transduction usage but one does need to provide oneself with conversion and electrical storage devices.
Nothing this good is free!
Dr. Farrell any chance you could write a post on Bearden or John Bedini? No one has spoken more to the definition of COP than retired Lt. Col. Thomas Bearden.
The rebirth of Cold Fusion, will be a Grid saver. Where as renewables get cheap and efficient enough to carry more of the load. The expense of conventional power plants becomes problematic. Due to the monster amounts of O&M they have. Now, if Cold Fusion is brought to the fore, like it should have been 20+ years ago. Then they’ll be a drastic cost of grid based power production. And they kill renewables with the cheap power generated. IMHO..
It is interesting that Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are involved in this project. Hedging their bets and preparing for a post petroleum future they may be more farsighted then they are given credit for. Has any been watching “Dimension W” anime on the Cartoon Network it is using the idea of a corporate control of Tesla free energy as is premise for the series.
Let’s hope this breaks out and it doesn’t become an enslavement tool
This is indeed a game changer. I pray that those involved survive long enough to see it become a reality, for at the moment there are few who understand the technology thoroughly.
This really takes the wind out of the sails of those billion dollar “iffy” plasma reactors currently being built and tested in Europe. More bilking the taxpayer for unproven and potentially dangerous “physics”.
It’s high time we dropped the fission reaction which produces dangerous by products which have to be “stored” in even more dangerous areas for an incredibly long time and have been built in areas susceptible to earthquakes, tsunamis, and other natural disaster areas and have lead to the radioactive pollution of our aquifers.