YOU TELL ME: MORE DEBRIS FROM MH 370 FOUND TWO YEARS AFTER THE EVENT?
I can't help it, but I am just skeptical of the whole Malaysia Air flight 370 disappearance, and have been since the story broke just a little under two years ago. And every now and then, as we've seen since it's disappearance, there's a story about debris being found thousands of miles away from where it was supposed to have crashed, or there's a story of people or debris found in other places, all of which - I can't help it - makes me think that someone might be trying awfully hard both to (1) keep the story alive and (2) keep everyone looking in the wrong direction, or at the wrong thing. I can't help it, but that's my intuition. Nothing less, and nothing more.
So, as we approach the second anniversary of its disappearance, once again there is more debris in the headlines, as this article shared by Mr. C.S. shows:
Washed-up debris from same type of plane as missing MH370, official says
As noted, this most recent find appears to be that of a horizontal stabilizer:
Debris that washed up in Mozambique has been tentatively identified as a part from the same type of aircraft as the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, a U.S. official said Wednesday.
Photos of the debris discovered over the weekend appear to show the fixed leading edge of the right-hand tail section of a Boeing 777, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak publicly. MH370, which disappeared two years ago with 239 people aboard, is the only known missing 777.
People who have handled the part, called a horizontal stabilizer, say it appears to be made of fibreglass composite on the outside, with aluminum honeycombing on the inside, the official said.
After the usual pro forma warnings against wild speculations - which we'll get to in a moment - the article then reviews the MH 370 saga:
Flight 370 disappeared on March 8, 2014, while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board. Radar data show the plane turned sharply around as it approached Vietnamese airspace, and then flew back across the Malay Peninsula until contact was lost off the coast of Thailand.
Authorities determined that the jetliner continued on a straight path across the Indian Ocean, leading them to believe that the plane flew on autopilot for hours before running out of fuel and crashing into the water.
Despite an exhaustive search of the ocean west of Australia, where the plane is believed to have crashed, the only confirmed trace of the aircraft has been a wing part known as flaperon that washed ashore last July on the French island of Reunion off the east coast of Africa — about 2,300 miles from the current search area.
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Nothing of the passengers, their luggage or even things designed to float, such as life-jackets, has been discovered despite the largest and most expensive search in aviation history.
In other words, we're left with as many questions as we began with, and on the "official narrative's" view, the principal question of why the plane turned, and then flew south until it ran out of fuel and crashed, remains unanswered. Assuming this debris is from Flight 370, why would any pilot, hijacker, or what have you, do this, and then not make a statement about it? Was the plane commandeered remotely, and then flown until it crashed? If so, why?(And yes, I know about all the technicians on board, the Rothschild patent theory, and all of that, so no need to write and comment about it). Or is debris being "conveniently found" on the anniversary date, to deflect attention from the possibility that no one know anything about the the loss of flight 370. Is not the timing of this find in itself a little sispicious?
All of this is not what disturbs me about this article. What disturbs me is this picture:
MH 379 debris
Now, what I know about airplane parts you can write on the back of a postage stamp, but something about this is unsettling to me, so perhaps all those airplane experts out there can write in and tell me to relax and remain calm. But until they do, we're being told thesse are a pieces of a horizontal stablizer, so I'm noticing what appears to be two relatively nicely symmetrically round holes underneath the word "NO" boldly stenciled on the piece, and between the two holes(one of which seems to be partial due to a broken off piece), is what appears to be a "fastener" of some sort, with what might be a part number stamped on it. This suggests that what created the holes might have been these "fasteners" popping loose or out. Above these holes, there appears to be a fracture of some sort, which looks like a stress fracture. Bottom line here, it appears that this piece has been subjected to some kind of stress; the only question is, of what kind, and when? Stress in the air? Stress due to impact? Now, obviously, I could be completely wrong. I know nothing about airplane parts, materials science, or any of the things that might dispell my unease in looking at this picture.
So why am I raising these questions? Because, firstly, I think that they're legitimate questions in the absence of any explanation of what we're looking at. Thus, my real point it, I want to know what we're looking at, and I want to know the explanation for what we're looking at. Once there's an explanation, then the real questions can begin to be asked, and maybe, just maybe, we can get to the bottom of happened to the unfortunate victims of Flight 370.
See you on the flip side...
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If that plane is not sitting in the car park at pine gap I’ll eat my hat.
I would bet that MH370s radar records are stored at Pine Gap, if not ‘misplaced’ somewhere…
according to Benjamin Fulford’s (if he is to be taken seriously) last week’s report the pilot of MH370 emerged somewhere (I forget where- I just skimmed the report)-
the world continues to become weirder and weirder by the day…
Larry in Germany
It’s also strange on who found this rather small airplane part. A lawyer (Blaine Gibson) from Seattle. He claims he is motivated solely by a desire to known what happened to the plane. “I do not have a theory,” told the New York Magazine. “I am just looking for evidence that may have been prematurely dismissed.”
What are the odds?
Sandygirl, I am not sure whether your “What are the odds?” comes more from the ‘lawyer (Blaine Gibson) from Seattle’ discovery aspect, or more from the aspect that Boeing builds 777s at Paine Field, the home to the Boeing Everett Factory, just north of Seattle. I am sure much 777 ‘scrap’ is left over from structural testing, sub-standard discarded parts, etc. Put the two aspects together, and “Hmmm…”
Joseph: MH370 is still ‘strange’ — in fact, in deed. Your original ‘non-explanation explanation’ on GeorgeAnn’s show may still be best.
Was with a Malaysian intel NOC guy with KL tower access on MH370 ‘poof’ night. Malaysia still confused. PM blackmailed, threatened, extorted and/or bribed. Rothschild involvement.
Then MH17 etc… ‘2 Planes, 1 Perp.’ Bush/Rothschild/Cabal — maybe with Clinton too (if so, not so surprising). Putin & Co. know all this stuff.
Satellites tracked MH370 past Diego Garcia. Still not sure where it went. However, even if Mozambique debris is actually MH370 debris, no guarantee that debris not planted there… Mahathir & Co. also know all this stuff.
T.J, I am sure satellites (among other technology) tracked MH370. However, I am not too sure about ‘past Diego Garcia’…
A whole lot of trouble was taken to get MH370 into the vicinity of Diego Garcia. If they only wanted MH370 crashed, it could have been anywhere after the initial ‘commandeering’. In my opinion, due to this effort, they wanted the aircraft intact (and in custody).
No land mass (or airport) exists for quite a while beyond Diego Garcia. Certainly not within a 777’s range. So, barring the good Doctor’s ‘poof’ scenario, a landing at Diego Garcia makes the most ‘Sherlock Holmes’ sense…
“The advantages of a surprise attack are so big that almost every other consideration has to be put aside in order to achieve it.”
– The Saker, February 20, 2016
“Would Russia Use Nukes To Defend Khmeimim?”
The piece looks like a part of a “assemble yourself” particle board piece of furniture, not a part of a multimillion dollar aircraft.
Composite fiber laminations for aircraft do not resemble this.
Highly suspicious, and timing and words shown perhaps are a reminder or moniker of no it will not be found?
One ‘trick’ used in the debating community is pre-limiting the area of allowed discussion. If you can ‘shield’ any dangerous area, you have already two-thirds won the argument. With that in mind, from the referenced article:
“Flight 370 disappeared on March 8, 2014, while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board. Radar data show the plane turned sharply around as it approached Vietnamese airspace, and then flew back across the Malay Peninsula until contact was lost off the coast of Thailand.
Authorities determined that the jetliner continued on a straight path across the Indian Ocean, leading them to believe that the plane flew on autopilot for hours before running out of fuel and crashing into the water.”
The first paragraph is absolutely true (in good disinfo practice), and shows TPTB have given-up on trying to bury the Malaysian military radar tracking of MH370. The second paragraph is the subtly-firewalling practice. It is indeed likely that MH370 continued SW on a constant heading, as whomever ‘commandeered’ it believed they were effectively ‘invisible’.
However, the article carefully left-out the sighting of an aircraft matching the size and paint-job of MH370 by several natives of the Maldives Islands, some hours later. These islands are more or less along a direct flight path to the US military base at Diego Garcia. (Britain owns the island.) Naturally, TPTB have insisted that what the natives saw is not what the natives saw…
So, this article is carefully walling-off discussion that MH370 simply continued-on to Diego Garcia. Kind of like the neglecting of WTC Building 7 by the 9/11 NIST final report. Clever, if transparent…
(By the way, US, Australian, and maybe even Chinese, radar ‘tapes’ do exist of the whole ‘trajectory’ of MH370. This is ‘skin-paint’ radar, which works even if transponders are silenced. The withholding of these records is probably the single, largest ‘Elephant in the Room’…)
Now, to put my Aerospace Engineering hat on. If you look at the first, overall, photo of the debris, it is apparent that the piece is a tiny fragment of a much-larger sheet – only a 2’x2’x2’ triangle-scrap. It was fastened at the front by a rivet row, which evidently failed and allowed the scrap to ‘peel’ off. I am surprised that the scrap does not have ‘intermediate’ fracture lines on its surface, proceeding-aft parallel to the rivet-failure-line, as the scrap overloaded-to-failure along its ‘length’ before ripping-off.
I also note that no photo is shown of the ‘backside’ of the piece. This would reveal the intactness of the ‘aluminum honeycombing on the inside’ of the fiberglass structure. Structural fiberglass is heavy; it would take A LOT of intact-honeycomb to counterbalance that weight.
Also, as a controversial website author – whose name sounds like ‘Gem Stone’ – noted for a previous washed-up piece, there is NO seaweed/algae/shell encrustation on the piece at all – not even in small, rough, ripped-out-rivet areas for maximum ‘growing surface’ and with built-in beach-rubbing protection. Consider that this piece has been floating around in the fertile ocean for years; how likely is this to be the case?
Personally, without seeing the piece up-close, I come down on the ‘planted evidence’ side. The big question is, Why Now? Why not let the story die a slow death, like JFK and 9/11? To whose advantage is it to periodically pop-up the story? Or, are they just rubbing our noses in it, for grins?
Well, I tripped the “Your comment is awaiting moderation,” switch again. I will report when the Comment reappears or is disappeared. goshawks – March 5, 2016 at 5:17 pm.
It appears as if my Comment is out of moderation in a timely manner. Thank you. It should be just-above this ‘notification’.
gracias goshawks. would have taken me much longer to get to and write all that. and not as clearly as you did.
regardless of the intent in throwing crap at a few 800# gorillas sitting our our respective couches, the only messages i get are
1) we who made you look at this, control what you sheeple are see as evidenced by your willingness to focus on such intellectual tripe instead of something worth looking at
2) the governments who control the evidence have not allowed you to see what must be an obvious truth to them
these point to an effort to make us all feel helpless against a group of individuals who are hostile to us and powerful beyond our comprehension. kinda the behavior i’d expect wolves to take as they try to panic sheep into stupid behavior. also makes one wonder what it is that makes wolves do such junk instead of simply taking what they want. if they were as all powerful as mr global apparently wants us to believe, then why would they mess around with all these stupid ridiculously gradual agendas (agendum?)?
ZDB, thanks. Some years back, a General Motors exec commissioned some scientists or psych types to find out how long the public’s collective memory ran. The answer came back as around six months; anything longer than that was effectively filed-away and ‘forgotten’. That is why you saw the morons – excuse me, the public – buying Saudi-prince-friendly pickup trucks getting 10 mpg, six months or so after gas prices dropped. They had no effective-memory of a time earlier than that. Scary…
That is why I laid-out such a long Comment. Perhaps, it might buy someone another six months on the ‘real’ MH370 story, before being effectively filed-away and ‘forgotten’. Gotta do whatcha gotta do…
yep it truly is men in black redux
perhaps that short memory is a form of time tunnel vision that splains how most folk consider helpful efforts at improving their systems as hostile attempts to take over or marginalize their hard earned gains in their systems.
so meanwhile the sheep, the wolves and whatever other species involved are stuck in the same old place until someone or something catalyzes change.
“Time Tunnel.” Blast from the past! I watched that TV show, growing-up. Pretty good for the time.
I am curious as to the differences in people’s ‘horizons’. Is this innate, i.e., some form of genetics, or just conditioning to keep one’s head down and move-along with the herd and sheep dog? This pertains just as much for the Über types as for the Peons. If you have enough ‘vision’ to look down the road and see where the road inevitably leads, do you stay on that road? And, at what cost?
(One SF book that I read long ago postulated that there were areas of the galaxy that held ’embedded’ squelching or dumbing-down fields. Solar systems and their planets would drift-into and drift-out-of those areas in their orbit of the galaxy. Spectacular ‘wholesale’ awakenings and endarkenings would occur, otherwise unexplained. That novel always held a ‘hmmm’ aspect for me…)
Re they communicating through news/papers?
Is the elite’s answer a Resounding:? – NO!!!
This is a strange one, I don’t think we will ever learn the truth about this incident
Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, X-Files, Fringe, Lost take your pick. How about throwing in a state alchemist from Fullmetal Alchemist did the transformation disappearance trick. We have 229 men women and children and their distraught relatives and governments and that no laughing matter CUI BONO that’s the question where are they and where are their remains if they’re dead.
If this is indeed part of the horizontal stabilizer, it would be part of the little wing at the aft end of the plane used for maneuvering the aircraft in the vertical plane, to keep it stable on the horizontal plane, and would be labeled “NO STEP”. The fasteners would be counter sunk into the part, which appears to be the case; these are not bullet holes. Whether it’s an actual part of the plane or a “plant” of some sort would be unknown unless there is a part number and serial number located somewhere on the piece found.
I, like you, find the synchronicity of the find to be suspicious. The odds of a piece of the aircraft being found on the day of its disappearance would be extremely high. The chance of the aircraft ending up in the sea with NO floating debris of any kind are almost non existent as it would break up on impact with the surface given the speed it was traveling.
The usual question to ask would be who benefitted from an event of this kind, but there seems to be very little benefit to any one from this particular event that couldn’t have come about from other, less nefarious, methods. The fact that this event is brought up at times might seem to indicate a message is being sent, but from whom to whom.
Those who could possibly provide information on this event have been seemingly less than helpful and this may be one of those mysteries which are never solved but always speculated about. It appears that the aircraft did not “just disappear” in one of those mysterious “triangles” located in spots around the earth.
Sympathy for the families of those who lost their lives is shared by most.
The “NO” is part of a “NO STEP” warning that appears on the upper surfaces of wings and elevators of just about all aircraft.