ISLAMIC STATE DESTROYS 2,500 IRAQI TEMPLE. THE QUESTION IS, WHY?

I have to blog about this one, because when Mr. C.S. sent this article to me, his accompanying email included the cryptic one line addition, "So, who is really behind this...?" I had to admit, as I read the article and reflected on his question, that the more I thought, the murkier and wilder my high octane speculations became, for inevitably implied in the question of "who is really behind this?" is the question "why are they doing it?"

These questions are highlighted even more by the appearance of a number of articles on the internet lately detailing cases of alleged sale of antiquities on the black market by the very same Islamicist groups, sales which, so the story goes, are being used to finance their "activities." It is a case, we are told, of antiquities being held hostage, and ransomed for further financing of their "activities."

That, anyway, is the public narrative. But I suspect much deeper players and agendas. But we'll get back to those really high octane speculations in a presently. For the moment, here's the article:

Islamic State Blows Up 2,500-Year-Old Iraqi Temple, Threatens Egyptian Pyramids Next

Here's the crux of the article:

A new video making the rounds of Islamic State social media forums allegedly shows operatives of the terror state blowing up a 2,500-year-old temple to Nabu, the Babylonian god of wisdom, along with other historic sites near the captive Iraqi city of Mosul. The video ends with a threat to give the legendary pyramids of Egypt the same treatment.

Vocativ describes the ten-minute video as showing the demolition of the temple to Nabu, using powerful explosives. Nabu was one of the gods in the Babylonian civilization, which was a regional power from roughly 4,000 years ago to roughly 2,500 years ago. The video also depicts the bulldozing of the ancient gates of Adad and Mashki at Nineveh.

According to Vocativ, the video concludes with footage of the Great Pyramid of Giza, which an Islamic State jihadi promises to “demolish with the help of [Allah] God” because the pyramids are “ancient sites built by infidels.”

And then we get this predictable "spin" from Breitbart:

ISIS says their destructive practice is tangible evidence of Islam’s earthly supremacy over other belief systems. That’s straight out of the Koran, which warns Muslims that “systems have passed away before you … [so] travel in the land and see the nature of the consequence for those who did deny” Islam’s supposed truth

Well, to a certain extent, this is true. One can read, for example, in the letters of the seventh century Patriarch of Jerusalem, St. Sophronius, complaints about Islamic desecration and destruction of Christian temples.

But we need to remember an obvious historical fact: Islam did not torch or destroy everything. The pyramids of Egypt are still standing after centuries of Islamic occupation of Egypt. One might argue that destroying them would have been technologically difficult until now, and that indeed the casing stones of the two giant Giza pyramids were indeed removed to build mosques in Cairo and elsewhere, and with their removal, whatever might have been carved on them was lost forever, that is, if one is to believe the statements of Herodotus that there were indeed carvings on the casing stones of the Great PYramid(at least my foggy memory says it was Herodotus). Similarly, Aristotle and Plato were not confined to the flames, but rather, Islam, like the Christian West, attempted its own grand synthesis of theology and philosophy. Scholasticism, in other words, was not an exclusively medieval Christian phenomenon. One need only think of the names Avicenna or Averroes in this regard.

The point is, that the record is mixed, and not one exclusively of Islamic destruction of the monuments of other civilizations.

Which brings is to Mr. C.S.'s question of who is really behind it, and its implied question of why. And here's where we get into some really high octane speculation, for as many stories and articles on ISIS have noted, this is as much a creation of aspects of the American intelligence community as it is of radical Islam. It is, so to speak, part of the pattern of the weaponization of radical Islam that has been seen since World War One. In other words, the ultimate "who" here lies in the West, and in those elements within the German and British(later American) deep states that were "weaponizing Islam" for their own political purposes in the First World War. And as I and many others have noted, there was something of an "antiquities" race between the U.K. and Prussia/Germany throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, a "race" to recover and weaponize antiquities for potential military applications that culminated in Himmler's establishment of the SS Ahnenerbedienst prior to World War Two. Antiquities and esoteric lore were to be studied to see if they contained any potential military applications.

Also lurking in the background here is the Baghdad Museum looting, an event I still find highly problematical notwithstanding American claims to have found and recovered most of the stolen artifacts. Recall that prior to the American intervention in Iraq, Saddam Hussein had teams of French and German archaeologsits digging up the antiquities of ancient Mesopotamia. THis meant not only the temples, but the cuneiform texts. This meant also that the French and German teams had field catalogue reports of what they were finding. Then came the Museum looting, an inside job by any analysis. The story ran initially that AMerican uniformed people were seen entering the museum and removing things. The story was first broken by Der Spiegel. In the aftermath, we were told of the recovery and return to Iraq of missing art treasures, but there has been precious little mention of any stolen or recovered cuneiform tablets. I suspected at the time, and still suspect, that the looting was not an American operation, nor even one of the surviving Baathist elites in Baghdad, but a German one, but that's another long story and argued case.

SImilar stories followed the "Arab spring" in Egypt, of looted and missing artifacts.

So what's the bottom line? Call me crazy, but I suspect there is much more going on here than meets the eye, and I suspect that some of it involves the recovery of knowledge, potentially of very sophisticated technologies, and of its denial to potential enemies. The cover story for the invasion of Iraq was, of course, that we were seeking to deprive Hussein of the development and use of weapons of mass destruction. Most of the world at that time was thinking in terms of atomic, biological, or chemical weapons, and we know what happened: little evidence was found for any of them other than Hussein's use of chemical weapons on the Kurds. But no one was thinking in terms of those ancient weapons of mass destruction, the ME GAL GALS of old Mesopotamian texts, the so-called Tablets of Destinies over which and by means of which so many ancient wars of the Gods were fought. I suspect therefore that we might be looking at an antiquities war of a very different kind, a war to monopolize whatever might be, or has been, found, and to deny its use to the enemy, whoever that might be (though the clues of recent history suggest that "who" in both cases).

See you on the flip side...

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

50 Comments

  1. RAJM on June 16, 2016 at 7:58 am

    Doc, If Saddam and the then Iraq he controlled was the hidding place of an ancient vastly powerful weapon, be it the tablets of destiny or something else, why is there no record or suspicion of it bering utilized or used at any point in recent history?



    • Guygrr on June 17, 2016 at 10:54 am

      Maybe they don’t know how to use it… Yet. Possibly what CERN is after.



    • Pellevoisin on June 17, 2016 at 11:52 pm

      It could be missing a component… say a crystal … or a crystal head ?



  2. Eve Leung on June 16, 2016 at 2:20 am

    Ok I know this comment may be totally inappropriate, but I can’t resist – I would like to see how they going to blow up the Giza pyramid seriously, damage yes, but blow it all up and turn it into a total ruin? I think they may need something more exotic than H bomb >.> may be something that blow up the twin tower….



  3. dtayls on June 15, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    There are only two reasons to answer the question of “Why do they do it?” 1. It’s stated and restated in the koran to destroy relics and documents of previous occupiers of a newly occupied territory. 2. Current Imam’s cannot think outside the terms of “the prophet,” Mohammed.

    Destruction and domination are the only true doctrines taught in islam concerning unbelievers in their political system. However, there is hope for individual muslims through Jesus Christ.



    • dtayls on June 15, 2016 at 3:19 pm

      Islamic reasoning is that if there is no previous culture to examine, then it must be fact that it didn’t exist. It’s their way of pointing to a false god creating everything in the same way evolution points to the big bang.



      • Lost on June 15, 2016 at 8:03 pm

        What makes you think it limited to “Islamic reasoning”?

        Also you know that Iraq would be part of the Islamic world.



    • goshawks on June 16, 2016 at 3:06 am

      What is particularly ironic here is that Islamics were told by Mohammad in the Koran to protect/not-hassle people of ‘The Book’. ‘The Book’, of course is the first five books of what Christians know as the Old Testament, or the Pentateuch.

      The ironic part comes-in because the early part of the Pentateuch is now known to have been ‘lifted’ from original Sumerian storylines. Noah’s Ark is the Sumerian story of Ziusudra, and Enki was the Sumerian ‘god’ who told “Noah” to build the Ark. The Sumerian ‘god’ Enlil was the jerk now known as YHWH/Yahweh/Jehova who was going to let the human race perish in its entirety. Etc.

      So, in destroying Sumerian ‘temples’, those Islamics are going directly against the instructions of Mohammad…



  4. BetelgeuseT-1 on June 15, 2016 at 3:55 am

    A great take on the reasons behind the antiquities destruction is given here:
    “journal-neo.org/2015/07/18/the-agenda-behind-isis-cultural-genocide/” by Maram Susli.
    I agree with earlier comments by Marcus and Roger, as is also indicated by Maram.

    The destruction of the Great Library of Alexandria never stopped. It continues to this day. And it’s the same organizational structure that is behind it (and it’s not Islam, that is the deception we are being sold).
    They’ve been there for the past 3-4000 years or so with their destruction of ancient knowledge, customs, cultures and artifacts on a world-wide scale, maybe even off-planet as well.

    It is the erasure of our ancient and highly-advanced history, individual culture, sense of nationhood and ultimately sense of individuality.
    As Jon Rappoport says it so eloquently: “We’ll all be globulized, all part of that cheese sandwich in the sky, where we just slither in between the slices (even when it’s just Kraft singles, LOL)”.
    No individuality, no critical thinking, just part of the GLOB.

    Not for me, thank you very much.
    Although I like a sandwich with a few slices of Dutch Edam cheese.



  5. goshawks on June 15, 2016 at 12:08 am

    “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” For iZeta (and all);a long list of URLs. goshawks – June 14, 2016 at 11:58 pm.



    • iZeta on June 15, 2016 at 12:30 am

      Thank you, but where is the list?



      • goshawks on June 15, 2016 at 2:22 am

        iZeta, the way Joseph has this ‘system’ set up is that comments become invisible when under moderation. Then, hours to multiple days later, they are either disappeared or become visible (without notification that they are out of moderation).

        Several posters are trying to work-around this censorship, as is possible. Until Dr, Farrell decides to ‘loosen the reins’, you may never see half the modded comments that are posted – as the articles have moved on…

        Sorry.



  6. goshawks on June 14, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    (The mods won’t let me put this in as one comment, so let’s see if I can get it in by breaking it down…)

    I don’t know how ‘true’ this Sumerian god list is, but it covers the main Players: (We only need to worry about Anu down…)

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YYq4akweFgg/Uz_t80rYy1I/AAAAAAAAMC8/fXkNSPiYkIY/s1600/Anunnaki+Family+Tree+–+Sumerian+tablets.png

    And, here’s one more broken-down by ‘brother side’:

    http://enkispeaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/1.1-genealogy-royal-nibirans.jpg

    This one is badly laid out, but has attributes (once you have identified who you want):

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Genealogy_of_Sumero-Akkadian_Gods.jpg



  7. zendogbreath on June 14, 2016 at 11:34 pm

    we might be discounting the slow crawl tactic

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfufT0F-4_A

    slow tactic does not imply slow strategy nor slow goals
    related strategy and goals perhaps but not identical to tactic

    question is what is the point to the simulated gladios?
    not that we need real gladios.
    these folk clearly have mal intent so why are they not real gladio-ing?
    then why are they gladio-ing



    • zendogbreath on June 14, 2016 at 11:35 pm

      seems off topic here and feels related
      probably same entities running these ops



  8. DownunderET on June 14, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    I am still of the belief that on 9/11, “ALL THE POWER OF THE UNIVERSE” was used. If the tablets of destinees that could “not be destroyed” were ever found, then they could be the key to unlock that power, and then you would have two “players”.
    I don’t believe that a rag tag bunch of radical muslim crazies would know what to look for, if they were looking for ancient technology. So enter some people who DO know what to look for, but have to use the crazies to do the ground work so to speak.
    You cannot tell me these muslim’s don’t know the Koran, all muslim’s have it drilled into them from berth. There is more to this story, but I can’t get my head around it. There’s something lacking here and I suspect the dark hand of a group of people who are pursuing something very old, but how do they know about it, because it’s connected to physics, and there you have it.



    • goshawks on June 14, 2016 at 7:37 pm

      It IS odd. If you had definite knowledge of object(s) that would give you unmatchable power, you would make an all-out run for it – visibility be damned. This either means that their information is vague, or that the object(s) are dismantled or otherwise unable to be quickly used. In the case of the latter, any attempt to overtly secure them would draw-down a big first-strike from the also-ran to deny your opponent the goodies.

      Given the on-the-ground moves, I would bet that nothing quickly-usable exists…



      • Guygrr on June 17, 2016 at 10:47 am

        That’s exactly what I’ve struggled to reason out, visibility be damned, why not just dive in head first if this stuff is so valuable to them. There are countless military contractors to do their bidding. Why create a problem by arming and empowering a third party that has the potential to turn and bite the hand that feeds. You’d think they learned that lesson from WWII.



    • Lost on June 15, 2016 at 8:07 pm

      John Keely in the late 19th century likely demonstrated powderizing large quantities of metal (steel) at will and very quickly.

      On of Wilhelm Reich’s experiments powderized stone over the course of a few weeks.

      Then there’s John Hutchison more recently.



  9. Robert Barricklow on June 14, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    This is emblematic of the death culture that is running with TPTB. Destroying ancient artifacts with hidden treasure as yet uncovered or undiscovered; only the spark of intuition and intelligence need to unlock its ancient purpose.
    Seeds planted by other cultures; even, perhaps galactic, being destroyed by purpose & weaponized ignorance. Why even seeds themselves are being destroyed, engineered, stolen, and polluted – all to stamp out nature & replace her w/a corporate brand. ISIS is a Nazi/CIA brand that Russia exposed in Syria. The Nazis began this process prior to WW1; the CIA continues to carry-on the branding-iron weaponizing,. across the Middle East.
    These literal Monster need to be stopped. They are parasites that are killing the host by taking over its mind. The Commanding Heights are infected by monstrous parasites – killing nature, mankind, civilizations[past & present], and our future.



  10. Pellevoisin on June 14, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    Poseidon’s people send a message to Hermes’ people … that is how I would read this.



  11. goshawks on June 14, 2016 at 2:17 pm


  12. Lisa Wade on June 14, 2016 at 11:16 am

    BTW, Omar Mateen, having worked in some capacity as a security guard for G4S Risk Consulting, it might be worth noting yet another piece of the pie they have their fingers in is Art and Antiquities. Here’s a link: http://www.g4sriskconsulting.com/en/What%20we%20do/Sectors/Fine%20Art%20and%20Antiquities/



    • Pellevoisin on June 14, 2016 at 2:58 pm

      Well spotted. Wherever G4S are to be found one will also find the CIA pulling the strings.



      • Vader_Etro on June 14, 2016 at 10:51 pm

        G4S, formerly known as Wackenhut Corporation, of fame from “The Affidavit of Michael J. Riconosciuto” appearing in HIDDEN FINANCE, ROGUE NETWORKS AND SECRET SORCERY, starting on page 231.

        http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/business/wackenhut-has-new-hq-new-id/nLqFL/



        • Guygrr on June 17, 2016 at 10:43 am

          !!!! G4s and antiquities!!! Hello Wackenhut, hello PROMIS…. But guess who else worked for G4S, the alleged shooter at the gay club in Orlando!



  13. marcos toledo on June 14, 2016 at 10:40 am

    This seems to be part of a Worldwide MO to erase every cultures past. This has been going on now on and off for the past two thousand years. One usually associated this with the West Europeans and to a lesser extent Western Asians. This joins the cultural destruction that has been ongoing in the Americas and Australia since the European conquest. And we mustn’t forget this has been done in Europe itself against it’s own past. They even got the Chinese to destroy their own past and that of Tibet when overran that area as well. Yes what is the big picture of these actions Cui Bono and to what ends.



    • Roger on June 14, 2016 at 11:48 pm

      This is what I suspect as well. The human race is facing the greatest threat in all our history in this great enemy the NWO. One that threatens not only our true essence but our origins and all our potential as well. Few oppose it, but the numbers don’t matter only the quality. The great enemy is not extraterrestrial nor demonic in origin. It is highly organized and resource rich mortal flesh and blood men of our worst quality and character. And all that is needed to defeat them is if a few good men step forward and seek to exercise their best potential against them.



      • Guygrr on June 17, 2016 at 10:39 am

        That’s the thing though, most men are not evil, I still think humanity is predominantly good. These factions cannot be made up of only evil people, there aren’t enough of them. Yes, people can be bribed or threatened into keeping quiet. Yes, the most secret information is heavily compartmentalized. Still, one would think at least one person privy to the highest secret would of had a crisis of conscience at some point and exposed all of. This implies to me that whatever the ultimate agenda is must be mutually beneficial and possibly altruistic.



  14. Aridzonan_13 on June 14, 2016 at 10:19 am

    The Pro-Centralization Team is trying to obtain every last scrap of info, property, etc. it can. The facade of ISIS / Al Qaeda / SPECTRE is pretty aparent. Nazi Int. has many disguises and has become exceptionally active.



  15. WalkingDead on June 14, 2016 at 8:22 am

    The current meme that Egyptologists maintain (no doubt sanctioned and enforced by darker powers) that the pyramids were built using stone hammers and copper chisels, etc. is nothing more than a smokescreen to prevent deeper analysis of their actual purpose. One does not build “tombs” to the degree of high precision with which these artifacts were constructed. This degree of accuracy is reserved for technologically advanced machinery and weaponry.
    The entire Giza complex reflects this degree of sophistication and is, no doubt, much older than we have been mislead to believe. Recent thermal imagery of the great pyramid have revealed hidden “hot spots” which may indicate that portions of it may still be active to some small degree or that there may still be hidden rooms within the structures housing “other” things as yet undiscovered.
    So, if you were an impatient “dark lord” wanting to obtain what “might” be there, would you not aim your current “tool” at these sites with their Western provided explosives and weapons as a way around the time consuming approvals by the “mainstream” ministry of antiquities, position your recovery teams in place, dressed appropriately to place blame elsewhere, and then turn them loose on those targets you deem most likely to produce the maximum benefit to your goals of recovering any ancient technology which you have been seeking for the last century in secrecy.
    This meme has shown itself in countless movies over the last 20 years, and we all know how they like to use Hollywood for this type of reveal and predictive programming. No doubt the race to “mine” the Moon, Mars and the asteroid belt is driven by this same desire to seek any ancient artifacts which may have been “hidden” away and very little to do with acquiring additional “resources” for manufacturing mundane objects.
    One has to ask the question: What do they think they know for which they need this type of preparation and where might this “knowledge” have come from?



    • Guygrr on June 17, 2016 at 10:15 am

      Whatever they know and/or want, it must be worth the extreme risks they are taking to achieve their ends. A storm is on the horizon and it looks like some of them are attempting to prevent it, while others are possibly attempting to stir it up / gain mastery over it.



  16. Churchless Mouse on June 14, 2016 at 6:03 am

    ABU was the father of EN.LIL AND EN.KI. He was also the most powerful god, whose number was 60.

    He was the “holder of the weapon that had no equal.”



    • OrigensChild on June 14, 2016 at 12:06 pm

      Though you probably already know this, Nabu and Abu are not the same person. But Nabu and Marduk merge.

      Nabu is the son of Marduk, who is the son of Enki, who is the son of Anu (or Abu?). Nabu is the god of scribes, wisdom and writing, and occupies a similar position as Mercury to the Greeks and Thoth to the Egyptians. Curiously enough, he is associated with prophecy–and in ancient times there is a deep relationship between history and astrology. As the god of prophecy he represents the interpreter of astrological symmetries and cycles as the principia mathematica for transforming the past into the future by knowing how and when to act. As Marduk ascends to supremacy he absorbs these functions back into himself.

      To me the real spider in this web is Marduk. If Marduk is the key to understanding Zoroastrianism and it’s intellectual child or sibling, radical Islam, then what are we really looking at? Which side represents Ahura Mazda and which represents Ahriman?

      With respect to Nabu I have one final thought? Isn’t it funny that Saddam Hussein imagined himself to be the reincarnation of Nebuchadnezzar–which is a derivative of Nabu. The name means, “Nabu, preserve my firstborn son.” Whoever and whatever these actors claim to be they are a truly ghoulish lot! As Marcos Toledo states above, the erasure of history is critical to their plans. By eradicating his adopted namesake are they attempting to erase his memory?



      • goshawks on June 14, 2016 at 7:09 pm

        OrigensChild, you just saved me a lot of writing! Good stuff…

        My judgment of the situation depends on whether the Anunnaki are still alive and present, or have passed off the stage:

        1) If the Anunnaki are still alive and present, there are two possibilities:

        a) Given the enmity of the Enlil and Enki clans, this could be a blatant destruction of an enemy’s personal compound. Enlil (descendents?) vs Enki (descendents?). This would indicate either an Enlil-side ascendance or the Enlil-side is desperate. This may have included looting of probably-known ancient material, but not necessarily.

        b) It is possible that this was Enki-side commanded. In this case, it would have been extraction of ‘daddy’s’ known artifacts. The temple destruction would have just been cover, plus for any political goals.

        2) If the Anunnaki are no-longer alive and present, I would assume increasingly-blatant sweeping-up of ancient artifacts. The big question here is Why Now? (meaning over the last few decades). I would guess that all the alternative historians have come up with enough cumulative-evidence that the TPB are now convinced that there is Something There.

        Interesting Times…



        • iZeta on June 14, 2016 at 8:26 pm

          My two cents worth:

          I think the Annunaki are alive, present, very active, and Earth is still their battleground.

          We are still subject to the ‘wars of gods and men’. It has been so for thousands of years, but now these Earth-bound Annunaki have technology. With this technology they’ll cause more havoc and ill-resonance on the planet.

          Whoever the current Annunaki ruler is, he is running out of time. I suspect it’s Marduk or his son. And I think he will ruin as much of the planet as possible, before he is forced to leave or hand it to the lawful heir Ninurta.

          Regarding the pyramids imminent destruction, whatever the official narrative is, there is no need to keep the pyramids since they’re no longer operational. But if they are destroyed, it might cause so much anger around the world that it might lead to an full military engagement amongst the puppets – perhaps that’s intentional. It might also cause some planetary imbalance too if they’re still coupled with the rest of the planet’s harmonics.

          Also I’ve always thought that Thoth was Ningishzzida, third brother of Enki and Enlil, but not son of Anu. Does anyone know where I can find a true Sumerian god list?

          Thank you.



          • Freefall on June 15, 2016 at 3:55 am

            Yes iZeta .. Laurence Gardner’s book “Genesis of the Grail Kings” (the Pendragon Legacy of Adam and Eve) gives an amazing list of the true Sumerian gods from the Grand Assembly of the Anunnaki to King David .. Hoping that this is of some help .. I know that Joseph has referenced this very book himself .. Cheers .. 🙂



          • OrigensChild on June 15, 2016 at 11:01 am

            I must confess that when writing this I found the alternate geneology cited here. I was concerned about the accuracy of that particular genealogy–but ultimately decided to include it to draw attention to Marduk in case a follow-up was necessary. iZeta, you’ve provided the opportunity.

            It looks as if there was a deliberate attempt to confuse the narratives of the “The Myth of (An)Zu” and “Lugal-E”, sited by Dr. Farrell in the Cosmic War as translated by Stephanie Dalley. In the Cosmic War Dr. Dalley explains them as the “Old Babylonian Versions”. After reading the versions of the “Creation Myth” in her book “Myths of Mesopotamia”, Dr. Delaney mentions dating and states that if the Babylonian version is later than the Amorite version, then the exploits of the hero were reassigned.

            That is my problem. Was revisionism operating to reassign exploits of past histories onto Marduk (or Ninurta) by group of peoples to support his title claim as “Lord of Lords”? When you begin to trace Marduk through Sitchen’s thread–which may have some bearing on the conversation–you run smack into the idea that he was once imprisoned, later banished, only to re-emerge as a conqueror collecting important sites and accumulating power. Though I don’t by all of Sitchen’s analysis there are parts of the Marduk story there that appear plausible, consistent and substantiated. He has the means, motive and plenty of opportunity to commit theft and create empire to consolidate his power in the region. But a consequence of this emergence of Marduk in a revised literary tradition sounds like the emergence of possibly a “third” elite, culled from dissatisfied members of the previous two, with an agenda. And, if it exists, does this third elite have anything to do with the development of the NAZI party? I’ve been thinking about the idea for a long time, but don’t have the time, tools nor resources to explore it.

            Let’s face it, all of this material is murky–and deliberately so. I’m not saying we should wrestle with it, but we need to make sure Occam’s razor applies. Marduk’s role in any of this has not been explored anywhere in the literature at this point except by Sitchen–and I am not sure why. Sitchen is not always reliable—but that does not mean that some of his research isn’t good. Sitchen can be right sometimes! Marduk’s absence in Dr. Farrell’s research is understandable—it appears to have no bearing in most of the topics he has explored to date.



          • Pellevoisin on June 16, 2016 at 1:36 am

            There is a possibility that Ningishzzida and Nabu are the same entity with the names being titles or offices rather than what we would think of as a proper name.

            One of the problems is that there is a great diversity of opinion over which of the gods is which and who is parent of whom. Certain books will convey the impression of absolute certainty when the fact is we do not know if we are speaking of people or planets or planetary rulers or…

            There are tremendous similarities between Ningishzzida and Nebo that have persuaded me to keep them loosely together within a sphere of possibility.



          • goshawks on June 16, 2016 at 3:29 am

            OrigensChild, I agree about the importance of research on Marduk (Enki’s first son). He and Ninurta (Enlil’s first son) are responsible for much of the formative history of post-Sumerian nation-states. I have read about alleged Babylonian substitution of Marduk’s name into the history of older characters. This may be part of the scramble to ‘privatize’ Sumerian cuneiform tablets.

            (It gets even more interesting if Marduk and Ninurta – or descendants – are around today…)



          • Guygrr on June 17, 2016 at 10:11 am

            Thoth as a brother of Enki and Enlil definitely strikes a chord. I think that should be followed up. As far as Dr. Farrell and Marduk, he certainly discuses him. Pretty sure Marduk was the one that blew up Tiamat and remeasured the deep in the Enuma Elish.

            Marduk = Yahweh… Maybe. Just throwing that out there. I’m of the opinion that many of these gods may still be around, but they might be extra dimensional/spiritual entities. Or they may be titular, or factional, even in the ancient texts themselves, as in Marduk’s people did this, Enki’s people did that.

            Good luck blowing up the Great Pyramid, to accomplish that they would need some hefty firepower. I doubt the PTB will allow their most cherished symbol to be destroyed. That and I suspect there might be some nasty astrological consequences.



      • Pellevoisin on June 14, 2016 at 8:50 pm

        There is a way to read the textual evidence as Nabu=Hermes, Nabu=Thoth, Nabu=Enoch, Nabu=Metatron, and Nabu=Enoch-Metatron.

        And although it would be considered absolute heresy, in a drunken binge, one might propose that Nabu and Zarathushtra are the same person



        • Pellevoisin on June 14, 2016 at 8:59 pm

          I recall reading years ago that some Christians expected the false messiah of the Apocalypse to be Nebo (Nabu) once again unveiling his face to the world.



          • OrigensChild on June 15, 2016 at 11:07 am

            Thank you Pellelvoisin for your contribution. Perhaps my response is overkill, but at least it provides a brief memory dump of my concerns with regard to Marduk. We sometimes put too much emphasis on Enlil and Enki in our speculations, whereas Marduk appears to emerge out of nowhere as a serious contender in these narratives. We need to reign that part of the story in to see if the picture becomes more clear.



  17. Churchless Mouse on June 14, 2016 at 5:58 am

    Earth moving gear? I do think they are looking for something.



  18. DanaThomas on June 14, 2016 at 5:53 am

    What has ACTUALLY been destroyed/removed/excavated/looted in Iraq, and who has been doing it? To what extent has the damage involved portions of structures that are not actually ancient but were rebuilt in the Saddam era?
    The Temple of Nabu (name recalls “Naboo” fro in “Star Wars”…) was reportedly damaged back in 2004 by US choppers (see wikipedia article “2003 Invasion of Iraq”).
    I would bet almost anything that in the events – reported and unreported – not a single cuneiform tablet has been harmed, and anything of research or collector value has been whisked away to the safety of the “vaults”. Especially any items showing anomalies which might be atomic, molecular, magnetic, gravitational or even time-related…



  19. basta on June 14, 2016 at 5:49 am

    If you take ISIS at face value (as its puppet masters hope you will — and that alone should provoke a face palm from anyone paying any attention), then the idea that they would destroy cultural and religious sites while murdering innocents is meant to paint them as cartoonish bloodthirsty barbarians.

    These over the top histrionics are necessary so that ISIS’s acts are outrageous enough to make the Western people glance up long enough from their iPhones to mumble assent to the “need” for their gubmints to get involved militarily to stop such an outrage — and so make the MIC happier and richer, and overrun a country or two to boot, which was the point of the exercise all along.



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