While it's old news, it's worth mentioning that Tim Ventura's popular website,, has some interesting articles on the involvement of the California-based defense contractor SARA's having built a "proof of concept" experiment of the Nazi Bell device (q.v. Tim's article "The New Nazi Bell'). The effort was led by SARA's chief engineer and laser scientist, John Dering. According to another article entitled "Defense contractor's anti-gravity discovery disclosed" (, the SARA/Dering effort was funded in part by Joe Firmage.

We may fairly guess how SARA constructed its device. Dering has insisted that the original Nazi Bell device was not a fully rationalized device with its mechanically counter-rotating drums (in addition to its probable counter-rotating FIELDS). And we may conclude, given the time-indicators of the SARA experiment, that it was rationalized, in part, on the basis of information presented in Igor Witkowski's classic work on Nazi secret weapons, THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WUNDERWAFFE. On that basis, with Witkowski's emphasis on the resemblance of the Bell device to a typical plasma focus, we may conclude that SARA and Dering probably configured the internal relationship of the counter-rotating drums of the original Bell as being nested one inside the other, and we may be fairly certain that the SARA device's drums were stationary, the entire counter-rotation occurring solely in the fields themselves. Similarly, we may reasonably conclude that SARA and Dering may have used a compound of mercury, doped with some radioactive material, and perhaps even some form of liquid crystal as well. We may envision a set of Van De Graf generators, perhaps, supplying DC current to the device. And we may reasonably conclude that the SARA/Dering device DID get some significant time dilation effects. Adidtionally, it is safe to say that SARA and Dering rationalized their proof of concept experiments by appeals to the work of Gabriel Kron (Dering mentions Kron at length during his interviews with Tim Ventura), and to the Unified Field Theories of Albert Einstein during the late 1920s and early 1930s. But which VERSION of that theory? Dering clues us in with his mention of non-Riemann geometries and distant parallelism, i.e., they would reference the series of papers that Einstein published on the subject beginning in 1928.

However, we may likewise conclude that the SARA/Dering device came nowhere near the effects allegedly achieved by the Bell....and the reasons may lie in the fact that the SARA version of the device may not have been - in spite of the claims for it - as fully rationalized as the Nazi device.

For one thing, it is my opinion, based on an examination of the Bell, that the mechanical counter-rotation of the drums was somehow essential to its achievement of the non-linear effects it inevitably relied upon. Secondly, it is my belief that the Bell was NOT a plasma focus in any standard sense, i.e., that its drums were NOT nested one inside the other, but more probably one on TOP of the other. Likewise, it is my belief that the device used TWO types of electricity, namely, DC AND AC. And finally, I do not believe, for historical reasons, that the Nazi Bell device was rationalized on the basis solely of Einstein's Unified Field Theory papers....after all, there were OTHER versions of the theory out there by OTHER people, and the SARA / Dering team ignores an important HISTORICAL clue...
As for my reasons why I believe the above things, those must await for the appearance of my new book, SECRETS OF THE UNIFIED FIELD: THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT, THE NAZI BELL, AND THE DISCARDED THEORY.
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  1. laserblue on February 14, 2011 at 2:21 pm

  2. Archytype on January 16, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    I would suspect that the ‘drum’ were placed one above the other on a common axis, but counter-rotated to negate the torque.

    observation of the universe at large and all sub-systems demonstrate the phenomenon of spin. It is the spin component that interfaces with what is sometimes called the aetheric field, or torsion field or hyper-dimensional field.

    The double torus (one on top of the other, inside a sphere) shows that the fields flow in opposite directions. A good example of this is shown here:

    fs such a device achieved resonance with this type of field structure emanating from the Earth, you would probably negate the effects of the Earth’s’ field of this type, resulting in an independent system that works in harmony with the Earth’s. Such a device placed in a craft of sorts could be used to travel around the atmosphere, manipulation of the field could be used to provide control of the direction of travel.

    something to think about….

  3. laserblue on January 11, 2011 at 10:55 am

    When I was young I read a short work of fiction by A.E. van Vogt that was about a Nazi research project that went horribly wrong and seemed to open up a kind of portal through which a river flowed and destroyed the lab. Where would he ever get such an idea?

  4. Candis Waldock on February 6, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Hi there, I noticed your blog using Bing while looking for Weather Balloons and your post caught my eye .

  5. Mike Griffith on August 17, 2009 at 11:46 pm


    Very interesting web-site!!

  6. John on August 16, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Strange that U-boat U864 on supposed journey to Japan at the end of WW11 carrying Messerschmidt parts is now a Eco disaster to this day for the Norwegian Gov because of 50 flasks of Mercury/Serum!

  7. Andrew Vogeler on July 19, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    In my research on this device, I can’t help but reflect on the recent theories of Professor John Moffat

    The SVGT modified gravity theory makes use of a “vector” field which in all definitions is a repulsive force to gravity. I would like if some similar minded person could apply these physics to the Bell theories.

  8. Simon Gunson on May 18, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Joseph you said in your criticism about the ventura experiment

    “…Secondly, it is my belief that the Bell was NOT a plasma focus in any standard sense, i.e., that its drums were NOT nested one inside the other, but more probably one on TOP of the other.”

    However in your book “The SS Brotherhood of the Bell” page 172 that Witkowski had a source who said:

    “…The drums were made of a silvery metal and rotated around a common axis. The axis was formed by quite an unusual core, with a diameter of a dozen or so to twenty centimeters with it’s lower end fixed to “the Bell’s” massive pedestal.”

    Given the description given by Witkowski’s source, there is no mention of an attachment for an upper drum above the Bell which would be the logical extension of your criticism. Both cylinders appear attached at the bottom through a massive pedestal.

    Why do you think the focus of the Nazi Bell was not plasma fields ?

    Surely everything uncovered by Witkowski talks about a strange purple hue and mercury fluorescing ?
    Why do you now reject this ?

    • Justina on January 11, 2011 at 5:14 pm

      Seems to me that rotating on a common axis, would not rule
      out stacked drums, though personally I find this an odd thing
      to do. As for plasma fields, they would be generated by such
      a device, if only as a side effect, its just that it wasn’t the
      sort of plasma focus device you see being worked on now.

  9. Thomas K on February 23, 2009 at 2:27 am

    you may find this of interest

    also, the many postings by forum member “ohrdruf”

  10. Joseph Farrell on March 1, 2008 at 1:35 am

    Hi again Zupakomputer:

    Yes as a matter of fact I mention in SS BROTHERHOOD OF THE BELL the only known documentation of an initiation of Hitler into a secret society, and it was into the Teutonic Knights! As for the story of the Nazis and Rennes le Chateau, some people are unaware of the SS’ argaeological digs in the region in 1944, coordinated by non other than SS Colonel Otto Skorzeny. According to some of the eyewitness reports, the Germans brough in several trucks, cordoned off their dig area, and removed….something. No one knows what.

    Best wishes,
    Joseph F

  11. zupakomputer on February 29, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    The SS sure have a lot of links to the Teutonic knights side of the Templars, and the Templars are thought to have recovered (in Jerusalem) information on technologies that led to the cathedral building and siting in Europe.

    Indeed, there’s mention of a scholar of alchemy & occult sciences having to have intervention from within the SS to avoid the generalised blanket treatment various groups got under Nazi policies, in the Skoob published Necronomicon; and accounts of Nazi involvement at Perillos that may be related to the Rennes les Chateau gold, and other accounts of interventions to ensure bombing campaigns avoided the cathedrals.

    • Justina on January 11, 2011 at 5:12 pm

      the Action Hess, which shut down fortune tellers, astrologers, and
      all sorts of occultist groups, was, I think, an excersize in hogging
      the occult and any related technologies for themselves, not, as
      usual historians assume, a statement of materialism or anti
      occultism and secret orders position on the part of the Nazis.

  12. Dr. Joseph P. Farrell on February 28, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Dear Zupakomputer:

    Thanks for the comments, and yes, I see a definite connection to some of the Nazi Bell research and mediaeval and ancient alchemy. In fact, I am writing a book right now, part of which will concern this subject. The resemblances on Schauberger and Ezekiel’s wheels of which you speak is interesting, and one more confirmation, to me at least, that the Nazis were indeed searching, in a definite and coordinated manner, to reconstruct lost technology and lost principles of physics.

    Best wishes,
    Joseph Farrell

  13. zupakomputer on February 28, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    After typing that I was surfing around some other blogs and found this one – , from which I (after a raised eyebrow at the chemtrails being admitted to news) went on to skimread this which is linked further down,

    ! a lot of similarities; the bit about the small disks that were made reminded me straight away of the account of the Schauberger disk that flew up and out the roof. Also similar to Schaubergers nature-styled implosion technology.

    Another aspect of magnetic fields in vehicles I remembered was the one in use on magnetic (levitating) trains; I forget if it’s the Chinese, Japanese, or German train that uses this version but what it does is switch the current (field) one way then the other way very rapidly, and that enables the train to sit above the tracks as though on an air cushion. It’s a different method from the method using the opposing magnets in the rails on the train to the track rails.

  14. zupakomputer on February 28, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    The counter-rotating drums sound like the “wheels within a wheel” descriptions in the book of Ezekiel.

    Counter-rotating fields are used in descritptions on how a merkavah / merkabah vehicle works (these are mentioned in Kabbalistic literature as vehicles the angles use) – to refer to the ‘non-tech stargates’ things I’d mentioned in another reply, this is meant to be a method of using those counter-rotating fields that is naturally a part of the human body (and said to be present for any other bodies also).

    I think the Delta-T is referenced in Philadelphia Experiment technology? One way to run counter rotating fields is to timed pulse (as in run electricity through it) the different edges of the delta-T in succession and in relation to one another (ie – pulse each side linearly in one direction and at the same time pulse each side linearly in the opposite direction, in the correct ratio to one another (the rate they are being pulsed at being in a specific ratio)).
    The octahedral shape of the antennae is a stripped-down version of the commonly seen (on the internet anyway) star tetrahedron shape of a merkabah field; just place tetrahedrons on each face of the octahedron.

    That sounds right that the two types of electricity be used; generally the counter rotating field also includes a stationary field that doesn’t rotate. I don’t go around building these kinds of things, but if memory serves it would certainly be more feasible (less interference with one another) to use one of AC or DC for the standing field and the other for rotating.

    In terms of alchemy it gets more interesting, because the star tetrahedron is defining a cube, and taking 5 cubes (or one cube field that is rotating at 5 different angles at the same time) yields a dodecahedron – which is meant to be spirit of the platonic solids. By that I mean it could be a method of accessing (just to again use known terms) a dimension outwith / incasing this space, where such a thing as spirit resides and would also be required to move into in order to go from one place to another without covering the distance inbetween the two points.

    There’s certainly a lot of accounts of Reichian technology being able to interact with what was said to be UFOs – but it interacted with them (eg – shooting at them) while they were in an ‘aetheric’ state. I found that co-incidental, because the tech. used is termed a cloudbuster and is part of weather-engineering. It reminded me of the Roswell cover stories about weather balloons, and the odd devices called ‘radiosondes’ that are mentioned in relation to weather engineering aspects of that Montauk AFB.

    Again, apologies if this is already covered; I’m just mentioning things here that I’m reminded of by reading the blog articles.

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