CONFERENCE IMPRESSIONS

Well apologies to all for such a long absence! I've tried to keep up with posting comments, even negative ones (like the one from Frank Marshal on a whopper of a grammatical error I made in "Will the Real Adolf Hitler Please Die?" I have to admit, when I read his comment, I had to laugh at myself. But honestly folks, could we be a BIT more polite when offering criticisms or corrections? I'm reminded of the story that during World War Two, when an outraged English teacher complained to Prime Minister Churchill that he always ended his sentences with prepositions, that his response was, "That is something up with which I shall not put."

Anyway, that said, I thought I'd share some comments about the Secrets Conference in Tempe, Arizona(November, 2008), the International UFO Conference in Laughlin, Nevada (February 2009), and the Ozark UFO Conference in Eureka Springs (April, 2009).  All of these were very well organized and professionally run affairs, so my thanks and hats off to all of them for being such well run events. I had the good pleasure and honor of meeting Mr. Timothy Good at the Ozark conference, seeing and hearing Richard Hoagland at the Secrets Conference, and a nice response from the audience in Laughlin.  Additionally I had the honor of meeting Robert O. Dean at Laughlin, and of meeting my good friend Jim Marrs in person there for the first time, and having some good private conversation with him.

There were some unusual episodes, all of which took place at the Laughlin conference. One well known ufologist, whose name shall remain unknown, stopped by my book booth, and looked down at me with a look of mild disdain on his face. Without so much as introducing himself or offering his hand, he simply said, "You really don't think the Nazis are behind all UFO sightings do you?"

I responded "Of course not." 

"That's good," he replied. He then went on to lecture me that it was one thing to have all the theory down, and another to have the engineering behind it. Furthermore, he declared, he knew all of this because of his engineering background working in black projects. I patiently tried to explain that I had tried to address precisely these issues in my books, an explanation which was met with something between a "hmm" and a grunt. With that - again with no introductions, no pleasantries or even a "Well it was nice talking to you," the famous ufologist pivoted on his heels and marched off to his own book booth.

The second episode at the Laughlin conference occurred after my presentation, when yet another famous ufologist cornered me and asked me "Couldn't the Nazis have back-engineered a UFO to obtain their incredible Bell technology?" or words to that effect. After a long sigh of exasperation from me, I explained that I did not think that was possible. I was then informed that they had indeed recovered a crashed UFO in the Black Forest. I responded - my patience running out - that I had attempted to investigate this well-known allegation, and could find no solid substantiation of it. My interrogator then brought up the issue of Mussolini's secret UFO study group, and I interrupted him, and explained that if he had bothered to read my books, he would have known that I mentioned it in Reich of the Black Sun, but that I still did not think it necessary to invoke ET or crashed UFOs to explain the Nazi Bell, or the physics behind it. I must confess, my impatience for this whole line of "explanation" is growing thin, for it seems that the true believers in the UFO community will credit humanity with almost no scientific creativity or technological inventiveness without the technologically superior ETs ineptly crashing their technologically superior UFOs onto our planet to be back engineered by our own mentally deficient scientists and engineers. And I stated all of this - in almost exactly those words - to my interlocutor, adding that, at this rate, we'd have to start crashing our own secret technologies on ET's home world, so they could catch back up with us.

In a nutshell, the Laughlin conference was what I expected it to be: a smoothly run convention, with well-known names, but, unfortunately, with a strong representation of the "true believer" of the dogmatic type in attendance, the true believer who defends and maintains his position with all the force of a papal encyclical. 

 The Ozark Conference in Eureka Springs turned out to be a pleasant surprise in the wake of the Laughlin experience, for while I met and had much good conversation with "true believers" at this conference, by and large, I was struck by the fact that most of them were far more open to alternative explanations to their own alternative explanations.

To boil it all down, I was pleasantly surprised by the overall experience. I had come to each conference expecting to see more of the "dogmatic" type of "true believer" than I actually encountered, and this was, to me, good news. In conversations with Timothy Good, Robert O. Dean, and others - with the exceptions noted above - I found the general tenor to be "committed, but inquiring," and open to other possibilities.

Again, my thanks to all the conference organizers for making my experience as a speaker at their events both fun and stimulating.

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7 Comments

  1. Jay on February 26, 2011 at 11:55 am

    I’m reminded of the story of the Harvard freshmen who, trying to find the campus library, asked an upper classman, “Can you tell me the library’s at?” to which the man said, “Here at Harvard, we do not end our sentences with prepositions.” The freshman replied, “OK. Can you tell me where the library’s at, asshole?”



  2. ericswan on June 5, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    The UFO story is going to break some day. I’m not holding my breath.

    A bit off topic but I recently discovered that three comets conjuncted Algol. Hyakutake on April 11, 1996; Hale-Bopp on April 10, 1997; 17P/Holmes on Jan. 22, 2008. The actual conjunction looked like a total eclipse of the sun with a precision that boggles the imagination.



  3. Arend Lammertink on June 5, 2009 at 8:58 am

    Hi Joseph and other readers,

    This morning I read your post about UFO’s and I’m typing this in the train home, without access to the net, so I might miss some points. However, the most important point I have to disagree with is the conclusion that since the Nazis built UFOs, therefore *all* UFOs must be of terrestrial origin, even though you don’t say that explicitly. While I do agree that there is no reason to assume the Nazi bell or the UFO technology currently in possession of humanity is the result of reverse engineering, I do think certainly the Nazi’s were inspired by ancient texts and myths. But let’s get a bit further on the question wether or not alien UFOs do exist and are visiting us.

    To begin with, I’d like to adress the question of wether we’re the result of evolution or of creation. I used to think that evolution was more or less proven and never really questioned that. Until I encountered the excellent video’s of Prof. Walter like “The Earth in Time and Space”, “A Universal Flood”, “Bones in Stones” and “Where Mammals Reigned” which you can find on YouTube. In these presentations, he comes with convincing arguments that the “classic” geological time-line is way too long and that there are many problems with the evolution theory. Basically, that leads to the conclusion that the evolution theory cannot explain the evolution of life on earth within the geological time-frame this must have happened, given that the “classical” time-frame is way too long. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that some form of intelligence has been involved in the “evolution” of life on earth.

    However, that does not mean that the only conclusion left is that there must have been some lonely “God” that created all of life in 6 days. That would mean that each and every life form would have been designed in all detail, a hell of a job which not only seems next to impossible, but also leaves one with the question: “where would that God have come from?”

    All in all, I think one can conclude that “evolution” on earth could very well have been seeded, introduced in a number of steps. That would mean the introduction of some life forms that were pretty simple from the outside, but harbored the blue prints for a whole range of “building blocks” for much more complex life forms in their DNA, enabling these simple life-forms to evolve much more quickly into complex life forms as would have happened in an unseeded “accidental” evolutionary process. This way, one can explain some sudden “creative explosions” in the evolutionary process on earth, without the need for a “grand design” that suddenly introduced all life forms in all detail at once.

    Of course, one can still argue that this “seeding” might have been done by a single, lonely God, but there’s more. First of all, there’s the work of Graham Hancock. He studied a.o. the Egyptian pyramids and the tiemple in Cambodia at Angkor Wat. The Egyptian pyramids appear to mirror the constellation of Orion and the temple at Angkor appears to mirror that of Draco, …., at an astonishing date: 10.500 BC, the same time the great Sphinx would be looking exactly at the constellation of the Lion when it rises above the earth. Besides that, pyramids have alse been found in Japan, which are under water. The nice thing about these is that they are covered with coral, which can be carbon dated. The result of this is that the Japanese pyramids must have been under water for at least 10.000 years.

    This points to a lost civilisation that lived on the earth more then at least 10.000 years ago. From that, we go shortly back to Walter Veith, which also gives pretty convincing arguments that there has indeed been an universal flood, probably along with other catastrophic events like earth quakes and the like. There’s also a mysterious map of Antarctica, that was made some 600 years ago, IIRC, which appears to match seismic surveys that have been done in the 20th century. How could anyone have a map of Antarctica if the continent has been covered with ice for thousands of years?

    That leads to the question: what was life like before the great flood and what kind of technology was available then?

    This leads me to the remarkable work of Nassim Haramein, who a.o. claims to have developed a universal theory of everything that is based on the idea that everything consists of black holes and has a universal geometric, fractal structure consisting of tetrahedrons. In his presentations at Google video at the Rogue Valley Metaphysical Library in 2003 he shows how this works. One intriguing detail is that his theory accounts for the 98% of mass “classic” theory cannot explain.

    One of the most remarkable things with his theory is that you can find his structures back in numerous religious symbols as well as in abundance in recent crop circles, one of which happens to return the message we sent out by a powerfull radio telescope back in 1974, aimed at contacting intelligent alien life, should it exist. Remarkably, the return message mentions a life form that consists of carbon as well as silicon, has 3 DNA sequences and lives on a planet with 4 moons, which message is delivered in a crop circle within a few hundred feet from a radio telescope. Also very interesting is the one that beame known as the ‘the mother of all crop circles’, which appeared in August of 2001, overnight during a rainstorm at Milk Hill in Wiltshire, UK, that consists of no less then 409 circles. Haramein: “Look at the precision. That is not easy to do … in the middle of the night … during a rainstorm.” Just think about it, creating 409 grain circles in maybe 10 hours, that’s 1.5 minute per circle…

    In his videos Haramein also analyses and mentions ancient texts that talk about the “sun gods”. Even in the old testament, God appears to be referred to in plural form, and there’s of course the garden of Eden, which describes an earth with food in abundance. Finally, he shows some remarkable footage that originated at the site of NASA, showing a tail-less “comet” making a 90 degree turn before it disappears into the sun as well as a planet-sized object being blasted away from (by?) the sun by means of a solar flame..

    All in all a very interesting presentation, both from a physics point of view, as from an UFO investigators point of view, with lots of food for thought.

    It suggest that the evolutionary process on earth has indeed been seeded by aliens, that at the heart of the sun as well as the earth there are black holes that could be used as a universal, ultra long range transport mechanism according to quantum theory, that vulcano’s as well as sun-spots are actually vortexes originating from the black hole at the center. These seem to appear often at a lattitue of 19.2 degrees, exactly where you would expect them according to Harameins theory, which also makes one curious about the interest of both the Nazis and the US in the work of Victor Schauberger, who did lots of research into vortexes. The NASA footage of the “comet” making a 90 degree turn before entering the sun, possibly entering a sun-spot vertex into the black-hole at the centre, suggests that this comet was actually a UFO, since comets usually don’t make 90 degree turns. The NASA footage of the sun-flame pushing away an object the size of a planet, suggests that some intelligent force prevented a major catastrophy on earth, since an object that size should have altered the trajectories of the planets in our solar system. This suggests that maybe someone or something prevented the mythical “planet X” or Niburu from harming us.

    — Arend —



    • Dr. Joseph P. Farrell on June 5, 2009 at 4:59 pm

      Arend:

      Thanks for the extended commentary and for visiting my site, and for presenting a thoughtfully-argued different point of view!

      Best Wishes
      Joseph Farrell



  4. photios on June 4, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Another thing that I’d like to note:
    Having been born in Roswell and raised in Artesia, my parents both knew a few folks who were directly or indirectly related with the Roswell crash. And everyone of them to a Tee fits within the dogmatic dialectical opposite camps between “it’s a ‘weather baloon'” or the growing popular theme in Roswell: “Aliens.” And no one seems to put together the puzzle pieces of the proximity to the War, Project Paper Clip, and the German Rocket Scientists’ inquiry prompted by the U.S. or at least entertain it..

    Like you, I think there are much better explanations for these things that have a far better rationale then having to be boxed into those dialectical opposites (weather balloon vs. Aliens). Both of those explanations to me are just silly.

    Photios



    • Dr. Joseph P. Farrell on June 5, 2009 at 5:01 pm

      Dear Photios:

      Thanks for the commentary! Hope you keep visiting!

      Best,
      JPF



  5. Photios Jones on June 3, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    “Furthermore, he declared, he knew all of this because of his engineering background working in black projects.”

    If he were so confident in that assertion, I doubt he would be announcing that publically, just some of my professional engineering experience as well.

    It looks like the old tactics are live and well. Must be a systemic problem…



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