…AND FINALLY THE HAPSBURGS…
While I'm on this genetics role here, I stumbled across this article about the Spanish line of the Hapsburgs:
What intrigues me here is yet another case, perhaps the most famous, of a European royal house whose family tree is very well-known, and thus, whose history provides ready material for comparative historical-genetic research, and in this case, the research has certainly been done.
The question that the Hapsburgs, and in particular the Spanish branch of the House, pose, is this: why would such a family have it in their heads to inbreed so much, when the results of that inbreeding would be apparent - even then - to the most recalcitrant blockhead?
I suspect that we are here in the presence of a multi-faceted mystery, one deeply connected to the notion of the divine right of kings and bloodlines, and how those notions may have been twisted through the centuries. It is now fairly common currency in some circles that the Austrian Hapsburgs showed some sort of interest in the strange goings on around Rennes-le-Chateau in the Languedoc of France, and, if one is to believe Holy Blood, Holy Grail and The Messianic Legacy, this has something to do with bloodlines.
While I have always had numerous problems with those books and their detailed assertions, I do grant the proposition that something of that nature may have been involved. Some time ago, my friend Jim Marrs shared with me the cover of a book that was printed by and for the Hapsburg family's private use. He has mentioned this book in passing in some of his interviews, and he has shown me the cover of this leather-bound, gold-embossed book, which appears to be some sort of hidden Hapsburg family history, prepared during the reign of the second-to-last Austrian Kaiser, Franz-Josef I, shortly before the outbreak of World War One, the war that ended the last Hapsburg realm in Europe.
Again, my mind is saying one thing: that genetic interest in such families is normal, given their well-documented histories and family trees. They do indeed constitute a geneticist's dream for a field of study. Yet, again, my gut tells me something else is involved, and in this one family's case, that something appears to have been known, at least in part, by them for some time.
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Spiegel history has a new issue out just on the hohenzollern family that you might find interesting. Well we just got it at my work so it’s probably last months. But its a good issue (seems like it I only read a bit) . Just thought you might be interested. http://www.spiegel.de/spiegelgeschichte/0,1518,754247,00.html
Has any research been done as to whether psychopathy might be genetic, and thus, passed down through the generations? Also, The simple explanation of ‘keeping it in the family’ is that families are cultural, in aspect-localized social engineering. So, keeping the bloodlines pure-with the occasional handpicked outsider, who shares approved genes and cultural values, is a way to propagate, and continue the values enshrined within the family. As well as the money and the power.
Thus, we have families like the Rothschilds, wherein the family members are raised in an environment culturally isolated from the common man, with values of divine right, and massive wealth handed down from generation to generation. There could even be an argument that some values might by now, be genetic within the family. Having a child through any old human, runs the risk of diluting certain familial characteristics.
It is my theory that long conditioning has a psychometric and genetic effect.
The data coming out of epigenetic research (Pert, etc.,) does show that genes are altered by environment, and that DNA is more of a passive blueprint than a controlling mechanism. The cell membrane actually functions more to control gene expression than the other way around. The membrane is the interface between the cell and the outside world.
Long term behaviors also deeply imprint neural pathways and capabilities for blocking or encouraging certain kinds of thoughts.
Lamarck wasn’t that far off, he just tried to test his theory using
something (cutting tails off) that is too gross in the original sense
of extreme, and irrelevant to the life needs and processes of the
animal, for it to work to prove his point.
INteresting info Jon… got any links to share? if so, email me!
are you familiar with the work of bruce lipton?
No I’m not…sorry
and since it is going to be hard to sort out the difference between blood
and influence and programming in the family, it is easier to keep up
the myth of genetic superiority. Even the inferior elements can be passed
off to themselves and others as superior, the name and a certain bearing.
when you view only your own as fully human relevant to yourself, and
the rest except for a connected by blood and marriage, you tent to choose
your mates from among that group. Chicken and egg problem regarding
behavior, which came first?
Incestuous families are usually inward turning as a family. Not all such
are incestuous of course, but there is a pattern here. It also fits the
pattern of tribes, to view themselves as the people and everyone else as
talking monkeys or something.
in my opinion is is no coincidence that darwins family were with their friends the huxleys eugenicists and formulated their theories according to their belief system even if darwin himself was a genetic victim of the inbreeding of these families
A friend just sent me these bits of information that may show the nexus between the anglo/american/debt/fiat money/system of commercial credit and why the royal bloodlines are so important to establish the globalist one world order.
“That’s all they do, give the substance of “Claimant” to the corporate structure so said structure can operate a endless fiduciary scam, claiming the entire substance of the Earth as subject to their edicts. The Rothchilds have long since intermarried with the European blood lines and for all intent and purpose, are the bloodlines by fiat or de facto operation . . . runs with the parable of the Wheat and the Tares . . .
Most if not all of the process over the centuries at some point has been perpetrated as a massive constructive fraud and fails on its face. This is where Jesus references the Wheat and the Tares . . . they presume to deny Gods creation which are noted by God as the “Husbandmen” of the land and that lands produce . . . the bloodlines presume the so called “Divine Right of Kings” to control virtually everything. This is the reason the British Crown didn’t want to appear to have prevailed over the American people, so they would subdue the land and prosper, and once the land had been cleared and improved for agriculture, mining and timber . . . the bloodline moved into the beneficiary capacity and began to make subtle claims against the people who hold mere “Color of Title” to the land . . . that’s where we are to day . . . in the middle of being divested . . . eminent domain is evidence of the exercise of such de facto unilateral power.”
I think the reasons for the inbreeding have always been pretty self explanatory.
Inheritance of properties and ranks and eligibility for the throne of whatever
country. remember in those days, there were no real nation states, but
geographic locations that were the property and inheritance of people descended
from the first to hold the lands as kings and conquerors, or as freehold or as
vassals from such kings. Lands, crowns, peoples, were property that passed
by inheritance and marriage.
While nobility etc. originally were not all that hereditary, though kingship was,
usually by primogeniture, though not always, but had to prove their fitness to
receive from the king the same rights over their father’s land because that land
was held pursuant to providing services to the king, eventually it became
hereditary, and the nobility were less and less on the line of fire in war, and
more surrounded with “mystique” like royalty. Mystique is generally a power
and position consolidating measure to replace fitness.
Hapsburg, Habsburg, depends on the country of the writer, both forms of
the spelling are in play in my experience since the history books of the 1960s
and earlier. i would suspect the p spelling is Spanish and French in origin,
and the b spelling more central and eastern.
Languedoc and the Cathars also connect with Otto Rahn, who changed his beliefs about many things after studying that area in detail. It led to his break with the Nazis and likely cost him his life.
To speculate on the DNA search, we also have to add in the continuing efforts to log the DNA of all citizens – from prisoners to children being born to hospital patients, anyone even arrested whether convicted or not, and so on. It is obvious that someone wants an easily searchable database of all of our DNA.
For what purpose?
Well, let’s consider what their goals might be:
Clear paths of descendants and lines of genetic movement through the population. Tracking “important” bloodlines through the population.
Tracking genetic conditions, defects and changes, as well as primary characteristics, such as for soldiers, scientists, etc., for control purposes.
Finding information coded into the DNA structure which requires pieces scattered throughout the human genome. (Tower of Babel?)
Determining and targeting non-“important” bloodlines for elimination with genetic or other weapons.
Finding some person, persons or bloodline which will alter the balance of power in the elite camps – sort of a Western version of the search for the next Dalai Lama, only in this case perhaps the Messiah – for reasons good or ill.
Finding a key gene or combination which is required for some purpose related to ancient technology or social/political needs.
Tracking a specific evolution of ability which might effect their control over us.
Back-engineering the non-observable templates or “engines” of life.
Finding desired sub-groups of humanity or separating out non-human life forms.
Maybe some bloodlines taste better – (“it’s a cookbook!”)
Habsburg is the correct name
but in the links text and in your spelling Hapsburg ?
Rennes-le-Chateau in the Languedoc region of France.
As some called them Cathars, lived in Languedoc and was eleminated by Pope.
Cathars believed in two principles, a good creator god and his evil adversary (much like God and Satan of mainstream Christianity).
Family tree maps of royal houses in Europa, with DNA attached.
Sounds like a sofware challange to be researched.