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SECRET SPACE PLANES AND INTELL GAMES

My thanks to a Facebook friend (Patricia Howard) for posting this link on my Facebook wall:

USAF\'s Secret Space Plane

I thought this was so curious that I decided to post it here on the website and offer a few comments. The problem is, there are so many comments that could be offered that one doesn't really know where to begin.

So let's begin at the beginning: (1) technological dissonance. There is a dissonance here that I cannot wrap my mind around, and that is, on the one hand, we have evidence of a technological capability that must be giving intelligence and military analysts in Moscow and Beijing nightmares: a robotic space plane capable of carrying joyfully unspecified "cargo" into space and then shuttle-like, returning to earth and landing like an airplane. OK...cargo here could be anything: smart bombs, small nukes, satellites, cameras, you name it. The USAF, in other words, is in my opinion playing at some sort of game here, by acknowledging the existence of this aircraft. Usually, when this has been done in the past, it has meant that the actual deployable numbers of the revealed technology exceeds the one or two publicly stated. We've all seen the effectiveness of drone aircraft in the "war on terror" (and let's call it for what it really is, the "war to secure petroleum reserves, ancient sites, and the international drug trade").

But there is a dissonance here that, as I said, I cannot wrap my mind around, and that is the use of an old Atlas ICBM as the launch vehicle. Now, the Atlas has been in service a long time. It was the early backbone of the USAs strategic missile nuclear force and America's first truly intercontinental ballistic missile. Planning and design for it dates to the 1950s and, of course, to "good ole American knowhow" as exemplified in Arthur Rudolf, Wernher Von Braun, Ernst Steinhoff and a host of others who were involved in its design. It is a relatively sturdy and reliable launch vehicle, so one can see why the USAF would be launching its not-so-secret on an Atlas...

...but surely, in the 50+ years since the first conceptual designs were laid down in blueprint, the USA has come up with something newer? That question has to be puzzling the analytical minds in Beijing and Moscow as well... the USAF has pried the lid off the box of a "secret space program" to some degree here, but also appears to be playing some sort of game - at least in my opinion - by comfortingly launching this vehicle on an otherwise reliable but obsolescent technology (might as well get some usefulness out of those old Atlases, right?). The question I am asking, and that they are probably asking, is "What else does the USA have up its sleeve that they're not telling us"?

12 thoughts on “SECRET SPACE PLANES AND INTELL GAMES”

  1. What dissonance? What ELSE could you launch it with besides the old technology- without spilling the beans on the new?

    1. Well if you have an ” unconventional ” technology, your best bet to get it to where you want would not be solely by conventional means. To my knowledge not all military launches are made public. That would defeat the point of doing something in a covert manor. But then again thats just my perspective and I could be completely off base. Pun intended:)

  2. Or….
    Hoagland’s analysis: A research mission with absolutely NO downlink.

    Whom ever retrieves the hard drives, storage media, has total and absolute control over who’s hands the info goes into.

    As for the other implication: SDI has already been deployed….and we know what technology it employs given your excellent books.

  3. The messages cold be many, including the one that supposedly old technology is far more capable than we were ever told.

    The idea of incremental progress is one that is part and parcel of the way the elite deal with us peasants in virtually everything technological.

    It isn’t the best they have, or they wouldn’t show it, period. Remember how pissed off the military/spy folks were when Kennedy outed the U2? (For those old enough to know what I’m talking about.)

    They may be hiding something in it, using what we see as a shell for something else more advanced inside. Maybe it’s not even staying in orbit. Maybe what it’s carrying doesn’t stay in orbit.

    It could also be a distraction using cheaper old technology to keep our attention away from something else they are doing. It might be doing nothing at all, other than causing a fuss.

    Or it could be used for plausible deniability – “Oh, that thing you saw in orbit was just the new space plane…”

    This is why I love the Stargate series (the first two) – they even allowed a spoof of themselves with a TV series within the series to use it for plausible deniability – “wow, what great special effects…” They did a pretty good job of exploring the kinds of situations one would experience in a secret program with such highly advanced technology, even to the point of deliberately having working technology set to fail in public displays to keep the public in the dark about the real level of progress.

  4. My guess is, since Bataille was Leo taxil the great hoaxer, that
    he drew his hoax off of information that was true, then blew
    it up to outrageous proportions and mislabelled some things
    as well, in order to make fools of both the RC and the Masons
    and his believers, but Bataille/Taxil MIGHT have done this as
    a disinformation agent for the Illuminati, what was left of them,
    to make research like this look silly. I think he did a previous
    hoax, and might have been approached by them, through
    his masonic membership he renounced temporarily, to join
    the Roman Catholic Church and hoax them and the public
    with his revelations. The RC officials started getting cautious,
    and eventually Taxil blew the lid publicly to mock everyone.

    but that doesn’t mean he didn’t have some real stuff in
    there. And IF my theory here is true, he may have been
    part of a core group unknown to anyone, who did use such
    technology, but without the flaming statuettes and all that.

  5. This story, in my mind, is reminiscent of the history of electric vehicles.  Electric vehicles have there first rise within the late 19th century, in the form of trains, and then transitioned into cars. What strikes me about this is the apparent lack of overall design and engineering improvements. The basic components of an EV have stayed very much the same over its recorded history, with only minor improvements to engine, power storage and other related components. Ideas this novel do not get lightly pushed to the side. So who is pushing and why?
    Now, I have heard tales that, the grand daddy of electric motors, Tesla took a whack at a few component of the EV,  one in particular was a power generation unit.  The lore in question stated that he made a device, within a small black box, attached it to the motor that allowed him to never need the use of a battery pack.  As I have said, this is just a rumor, which I have been unable to fully prove. Yet it is not altogether impossible to think that Tesla, or a man of his ilk, could have figured out a way to improve upon it’s design in some novel and radical new way, given the time spans involved.  We are only given what is deemed important for us to know, if we cross certain lines I am sure someone, somewhere, may shoot across our bow or worse. So when you see stories like this you must know that it’s a ploy to either let someone know, “your close now back off” or ” what your working on now, we figured out a while ago”.
    So back to the EV, what have we now?  Hybrids? What a joke, that’s like a geneticist saying ” We believe mans future of evolution will be spurred by the splicing of his genes with those of a Gorilla!” talk about devaluing the future of a species! 
    My take is, they are playing a game of quid pro quo, I show you things you show me things.  To the average Joe it looks like an advance in capabilities, to a foreign military man it looks like a dolled up piece of excrement. The military does not let secrets slip idly out of there grasp.  The only reason they let it go is because of it’s obsolescence. So that means there is a blatant attempt to give the bird to whom ever that message was intended for.  It’s just like building a FORTÈ, you are only allowed to see it’s walls, so what ever lays outside of it’s walls is just a diversion or a trap.  

  6. Well my take is to compare an old car with a modern one.
    A car from -50’s was without electronics, some electric but no
    Electronics.
    So if you expect a solar storm = big EMP-electro magnetc pulse
    I think the old Atlas ICBM will run without any interruption.
    But maybe the USA is in a retro mood just for fun.
    FunFunFun-´til Daddy Takes the TBird Away-Beach Boys
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4FOiVM4bQc&feature=related

  7. Sounds like just the tip of a VERY BIG iceberg here, Joseph. Which reminds me of the Lake Vostok situation RCH commented on ten years ago wherein a bunch of NSA guys uncerimoniously booted a bunch of JPL guys in order to secure and spirit something(s) out of Vostok by way of a C130 Hercules in the dead of the south polar winter!

  8. “war on terror”: also a war on a non-conformist, non-usury based, banking system. a very successful banking system centered in Iran, but spreading “dangerously” to other Islamic countries, including ones recently targeted perhaps? (yes, at least in the case of Tunisia.)

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