Well, if you've been following the Bin Laden scenario meltdown as I have, you'll be aware that the whole story of the "proof" of the dreaded terrorist leader's demise is a bit shaky, at best. Now, it seems, there's a new problem, namely, one of the FBI's former DNA forensics analysts is having a few problems with the "story":

Expert: bin Laden\'s DNA results are inconsistent

The article zeros in on the essential problem with the story: If there was to be a DNA identification of Bin Laden, then for the highest probability of identification, the USA would have had to have a DNA sample from Bin Laden himself, or (2) for a lesser probability of identification, DNA samples from many of his large family.

Therein is the rub: just where and when did the USA get these samples, and how? No one yet has answered this question. Did the DNA test include comparisons from "Bin Laden's" DNA to an earlier sample of it? Or did it compare it to his relatives? Surely this is an easy question to answer, if in fact one has actually done DNA testing. So, one would think that in order to buttress their claims and put any doubts to rest, that they would publish the hard data, and have already addressed what type of DNA comparison was done, and assured the public - and especially the scientific public - of when the actual results would be published.

Yet these basic steps were not undertaken, and that, again, raises my suspicion meters into the red zone, for one could not possibly contrive a sillier story so full of evident holes, unless, of course, one were the Warren Commission. It took JFK researchers years, if not decades, to pull down that house of cards, and yet this one began to blow apart even as the President was speaking. Again, to me, it appears that the story was deliberately designed to collapse almost as soon as it appeared.



Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Wil on May 18, 2011 at 11:59 am

    They used DNA, brain tissue gathered by the FBI to be precise, from Bin Laden’s earlier deceased sister.

  2. Thomask on May 18, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Perhaps this: knowing of his illness, and that he would soon be dead, Osama’s family permits the CIA (whom they have contracted with and served for years) to use his name. Their payoff is increased lucrative construction contracts throughout the middle east (apparently, although I cannot directly verify, they have increased their business greatly since 9/11). Osama has in all likelihood been dead for 8 or 9 years, probably of natural causes. The present charade may be the result of thumbing their noses (giving the —) to those paying attention, knowing that the vast majority of the public and media are either payed off or too fluoride-addled to pay attention. The goal is to undermine Pakistan, and eventually all still partly independent states — finally pushing toward a devastatingly greater war as part of their “final solution”/blood sacrifice?

  3. John on May 18, 2011 at 5:09 am

    I listened to all the Steve Pieczenek interviews on Alex Jones last week and he felt like a stooge to me.

    Hi everybody, I haven’t spoken before but I have listened to most of Mr Farrell’s interviews on You Tube (even bought one of his books) … and Sir I salute you on your wide knowledge and ability to tackle some of the most severe subjects with a giggle. I will be speaking when I have something to say and probably joining further into the site soon. In the meantime I am enjoying the show.

    Kind Regards,


  4. Jon on May 17, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Assuming of course, that any of this really happened at all.

  5. Linda on May 17, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Then why don’t you take this from a different angle, back like you did with LBJ/JFK?

    I can see where the DNA thing would be like admitting that he was the asset he used to be for the CIA.

    Why would the story be “designed to collapse?” Who benefits? Who would want that?

    When I applied some of the logic you used in your LBJ/JFK book, the idea that Bin Laden had been ‘on ice’ for some time just didn’t make sense. Too many people and organizations would have had to agree to be silent, including Bin Laden’s own. Then again, if they were, it was by some sort of silent, mutual agreement. But I’d think too many to keep that under wraps. Unlike JFK, this thing had many more players in many other places.

    So, what to you think the motive would be for a “designed collapse?”

  6. Nordman on May 17, 2011 at 11:45 am

    One possibility is that the operation in Pakistan was aimed to
    discredit the military for not beeing competent to protect Pakistan.
    And therefore not be trusted with nucklear arsenal. Can be an attempt to split forces within Pakistan. So the public story is not important.
    The aim is to control nukes.
    Listen to Webster Tarpley. May 14, 2011.

  7. Gary on May 17, 2011 at 9:44 am

    Joseph — just wondering what you think about this Steve Pieczenek guy who has been doing the rounds recently. — he’s been on Alex jones and coast to coast — billed as a deep insider. His credentials appear to check out and what he has to say about psy-ops, false flags etc all appear on the money….. Except this guy clearly is profusely annoyed with Obama and seems to throw GW Bush under the bus too along with Cheney and Rumsfeld BUT he has kind words for Bush senior and Robert Gates — who were up to their eye balls in Iran contra and all kinds of alleged malfeasance over the years stretching right back to the grassy knoll —- I’m getting some kind of strange feeling that this bad joke bin laden assassination was designed to collapse and that by bringing the bin laden fiasco to an end Obama has somehow annoyed the cabal…. Is it a coincidence that Gates has finally gone just as this sorry ass escapade was fed to the public?

    • Joseph P. Farrell on May 17, 2011 at 11:11 am

      I’m not sufficiently familiar enough with him to comment, and I do not listen to Alex Jones. As for the Bin Laden thing, I think it might PERHAPS be that some within the Obama administration might be seeking to put the whole “terrorism” thing behind us.

    • Patrick on May 17, 2011 at 1:28 pm

      From what I have gathered, you nailed it…he’s annoyed the TPTB/W because he’s still trying to do what he said he would. When Egypt was breaking out, he told ALL of us how to do this where we live…listen to his speech made during the day 2.11.11…the first day of the last wave of the Mayan calendar.

      I see this all as a giant three card monte game…Obama isn’t supposed to be where he is. But he is…but his cabinet isn’t HIS…and he’s learned that first hand these first years. Now he’s salvaging and OBL was part of it. It A, stunned insiders b/c it was going to be a boogey man for kingdom come and B got everyone off the Birther kick…and C, he can claim that credit in polite company.

  8. Lee on May 17, 2011 at 6:01 am

    May 1st, or rather May Day, or maybe that should be Mayday, the International Distress Signal.

    Osama, the figure head of a global terror network is put to sea. You could say Osama was the King of Terror.

    Obama makes a Mayday message about the King of Terror being put into the sea.

    Quite a symbolic message.

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