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JUST FYI: THE WHITE HORSE PROPHECY

Since we have a Mormon as a front runner for the US presidency on the Republican ticket, and a former ambassador to China who just happens to be a former governor of Utah as well, you might want to familiarize yourself with something called "the White Horse Prophecy," which appears to be simultaneously both a part of, and not a part of, official Mormon belief:

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22 thoughts on “JUST FYI: THE WHITE HORSE PROPHECY”

  1. Not only do the Mormons have this white horse prophecy, but so do the Hindus (white horse Avatar who is to come during the current age, the Kali Yuga, or Iron Age) as do the Lakota, in a manner, have the White Buffalo who comes.

    1. Richard Pettigrew

      An Excerpt form the book “The Holy Science” by Swami Sri Yukteswar.

      “A short discussion with mathematical calculation of the Yugas or Ages will explain the fact that the present age for the world is Dwapara Yuga, and that 194 years of the Yuga (A.D. 1894) have now passed away, [311 years elapsed as at AD 2011] bringing a rapid development in man’s knowledge.

      We learn from Oriental astronomy that the moons revolve around planets, and planets turning on their axes revolve with their moons round the sun; and the sun, with its planets and their moons, takes some star for its dual and revolves around it in about 24000 of our earth – a celestial phenomenon which causes the backward movement of the equinoctial points around the zodiac. The sun also has another motion by which it revolves round a grand center called Vishnunahbi, which is the seat of the creative power, Brahma, the universal magnetism. Brahma regulates dharma, the mental virtue of the internal world.
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      … (i have left out a couple of paragraphs here for simplicity, so if you wish, please refer to pages 8 through 15 of the book for the explanation in full).
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      The position of the world in the Dwapara Sandhi era at present (AD 1894) is not correctly shown in the Hindu almanacs. The astronomers and astrologers who calculate the almanacs have been guided by wrong annotations of certain Sanskrit scholars (such as Kulluka Bhatta) of the dark age of Kali Yuga, and now maintain that the lenght of the Kali Yuga is 432,000 years, of which 4994 have (in AD1894) passed away, leaving 427,006 years still remaining. A Dark prospect! and fortunately one not true.
      The mistake crept into the almanacs for the first time during the reign of Raja Parikshit, just after the completion of the last Decending Dwapara Yuga. At that time Maharaja Yudhishira, noticing the appearance of the dark KAli Yuga, made over his throne to his grandson, the said Raja Parikshit. Maharaja Yudhisthira, together with all the wise men of his court, retired to the Himalaya Mountains, the paradise of the world. Thus there was none in the court of Raja Parikshit who could understand the principal of correctly calculating the ages of the several Yugas.

      Hence, after the completion of the 2400 years of the then Dwapara Yuga, no one dared to make the introduction of the dark Kali Yuga more manifest by beginning to calculate from its first year and put an end to the number of Dwapara years.

      According to this wrong method of calculation, therefore, the first year of Kali Yuga was numbered 2401 along with the age of Dwapara Yuga. In AD 499, when 1200 years, the length of the true Kali Yuga, was complete, and the sun had reached the point of its orbit farthest from the grand center (when the Autumnal Equinox was on the first point of Libra in the heavens), the age of Kali in its darkest period was then numbered by 3600 years in stead of by 1200.

      With the commencement of the Ascending Kali Yuga, after AD 499, the sun began to advance in its orbit to the grand center, and accordingly the intellectual power of man started to develop. Therefore the mistake in the almanacs began to be noticed by the wise men of the time, who found that the calculations of the ancient rishis had fixed the period of one Kali Yuga at 1200 years only. But as the intellect of these wise men was not yet suitably developed, they could make out only the mistake itself, and not the reason for it. By way of reconciliation, they fancied that 200 years, the real age of Kali, were not the ordinary years of our earth, but were so many daiva years (“years of the gods”), consisting of 12 daiva months of 30 daiva days each, with each daiva day being equal to one ordinary solar year of our earth. Hence according to these men 1200 years of Kali Yuga must be equal to 432,000 years of our earth.

      In coming to a right conclusion, however, we should take into consideration the position of the Vernal Equinox at spring in the year AD 1894.

      The astronomical reference books show the Vernal Equinox at spring now to be 20°54’36” distant from the first point of Aries (the fixed star Revati), and by calculation it will appear that 1394 years have passed since the time when the Vernal Equinox began to recede from the first point of Aries.

      Deducting 1200 years (the length of the last Ascending Kali Yuga) from 1394 years, we get 194 to indicate the present year of the world’s entrance into the Ascending Dwapara Yuga.The mistake of older almanacs will thus be clearly explained when we add 3600 years to this period of 1394 years and get 4994 years – which according to the prevailing mistaken theory represents the present year (AD 1894) in the Hindu almanacs.”

      So in conclusion to this information, as at AD 2011 we have now entered the Ascending Dwapara Yuga and 311 years has passed.

      We are no longer in the Kali Yuga (Iron Age), we are in the Silver Age of Dwapara Yuga.

      Thank you.

      1. Richard Pettigrew

        just a small correction to a typo:

        ” they fancied that 200 years, the real age of Kali, were not the ordinary years of our earth”

        should be “1200 years” not 200.

      2. Richard Pettigrew

        one further correction, i got ahead of myself there at the end, we are in the Bronze Age not the Silver Age! Silver age = Treta Yuga.

        apologies….

  2. As mentioned before this prophecy came into vogue 56 years after JS died! This supposed prophecy was recited by a man who was supposedly a close friend of JS. JS died in 1844 and this prophecy didn’t come about until 1900. Now that in it’s self is strange. Why wait 56 years? Is that because he had to have time to concoct this whole episode so too make it look as though JS is speaking from the grave? And by doing this he is keeping alive the notion that JS was a prophet where by he was kept as it’s founder and then highly venerated even though none of what JS can be substantiated. Where are the gold tablets? This is all high speculation but the fact remains he waited 56 years before he recounted this fairy tale as I call it.

  3. Commenting on this prophecy is this quote from Wikipedia that says:

    ” The authenticity of the White Horse Prophecy is debated. It was never made public during Smith’s lifetime, but was recorded many years after his death by one of his associates, Edwin Rushton. Rushton’s manuscript was written around 1900. Although some elements of the statement were confirmed by contemporary LDS Church leaders as having been taught by Smith, the prophecy as a whole has never been officially acknowledged or accepted, and has been repudiated by the LDS Church since 1918.”

    As with many handed down accounts recorded after there deaths there is liberty to add or subtract where the writer see’s fit. Another words for the context to fit a preconceived idea things are added or totally made up of parts of speeches or letters attributed to the fallen leader and because the fallen leader was revered by many what is said is taken as the truth when it’s the furtherest thing from the truth. The age old question arises as said by Pilate, “what is truth”! You could go into what is philosophical truth, or political truth, economic truth and so on and so on. Did Joseph smith ever say what is attributed to him as saying and the answer is no! He said bits and pieces but never in cogent statement did he ever say this is the white horse prophecy. It wasn’t until some years after his death that some one comes forth and renders a story that is attributed to J.S. Personally sounds like a nice little fairy tale sort of in the vain of “Tale of Two Cities” Remember it was said: ” it was the worst of times and it was the best of times “.

  4. I was raised in a Mormon household. My father was a Bishop and then a Stake President, presiding over 16 congregations. He was also a scholar (university professor) and studied Mormon history and writings extensively.

    I can confirm that the doctrine Joseph mentioned was taught in my Mormon experience. I remember many times in the 70’s when my father would wax eloquent on the prophecies of the “last days”. It would be social and economic chaos….town against town and city against city…..the constitution would hang by a thread….the Mormon male preisthood would step in and restore things….and yep, it amounted to a Mormon theocracy (benevolent, of course!)

    As to the comment of official LDS doctrine, what I can tell you is this. Just as in a secret society, there were different things said to different audiences. To non-members, we were groomed to give them PR friendly information (giving them the milk before the meat). The next level was things that were said in official church communications. And the next level was things that were said in less formal settings….fireside chats, Family Home Evening meetings, etc. This third level of information was quite extensive and quite compelling….privileged semi-secret insider information. And quite convenient to the LDS corporation because it was strong enough to create loyal “insider” followers, but also allowed for plausible deniability in the outer world.

    p.s. Needless to say, I have left the Mormonism reality tunnel….I can’t imagine too many True Believing Mormons who could handle the paradigm-busting ideas from people such as JP Farrell, LOL

  5. if the Mormon Church should be the savior of America, Blacks need to take a good stiff drink before the ‘festivities’ begin

  6. No question about the righteous empowerment felt within the LDS Corporate structure, being of the Chosen amongst the cattle(goy). John Lamb Lash’s book-“Not in HIS Name”- unveils the Zaddikite origins of this Apocalypse victim/redeemer mind virus that emerges from the Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi. Having read the Book of Mormon and much of Joseph Smith’s own commentaries, I have came to the conclusion that the Church of LDS is the American mirror and subsidiary of the Vatican. The Jesuit brotherhood always gets away w/o mention, but is historically a continuous presence in all nations on Earth. The LDS Elders will stop at nothing until they preside over their fulfilled prophecy of Theocracy on Earth, and just like Rome, eliminate all and anyone that does not comply with the commands of their Lord.I for one, will never be commanded to obey any such fiction.

  7. I guess I read something different then these expositors read! Even in the official statement of the Mormons they don’t agree with this prophecy. They said it can’t be supported by historical research and is not supported by the LDS church. So if the LDS doesn’t support this why are we even discussing it? They don’t believe it! Case settled case closed!

  8. Oh dear…………..just when we thought it couldn’t possibly get any worse —- now we’re looking to the Mormons to “save” us? =O

    I really don’t wear pastel gingham dresses well at all…………=(

  9. There is a difference between the United States of America and the UNITED STATES. The United States of America is no longer in legal memory. The UNITED STATES is a CORPORATION. This election is for corporate officers only.

    The government of the United States of America, except for a very few Governors and one Senator from Colorado, has been empty and vacant since 1944 when it was quit claimed to the International Monetary Fund.

    Mormons could easily prove or disprove their religion by some archeological excavations but they DON’T want to. The reason is that they want to require their members to abandon reason and to rely on faith. Faith equals belief in something with zero evidence. Faith is the enemy of reason.

    Faith is one thing all religions have in common.

    Shhh!!! What’s that sound? I think Thomas Jefferson just turned over in his grave.

      1. To answer your question: If Dr, Farrell will let me. Here we go:

        It is called “The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871.”

        Law in Congressional Record: Forty-First Congress, Session III, Chapter LXII, Page 419.

        Photocopies are here: http://www.nikolasschiller.com/blog/index.php/archives/2009/01/30/2215/

        Photocopies are here too:
        http://www.teamlaw.org/ [Click on “Historical Outline” and locate “The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871.” Photocopies of the Congressional Record will appear there.]

        Wikipedia: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_Organic_Act_of_1871

        Other Descriptive Link:
        http://www.usavsus.info/

        1. All right thanks for the link.

          Although I only see that DC is a corporate body for “municipal purposes” how that makes the whole USA a corporate body is not clear.

          Can you cite a case which declared the US a corporate body, and cited this 1871 law as precedent, perhaps?

          Seems to me that the municipal governance of DC isn’t the same as the states then–that’s clear taxation sans representation for those who live there.

          1. No. However, here are some so called “experts” on this topic so I am referring you to them.

            1. Phil Pozderac talks a lot about this on his radio show “POZitively Unconstitutional” every Saturday 10:00 AM to 12:00 PM CST here:

            http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=3

            Phil’s call-in number is: 800-313-9443

            2. Alfred Adask, who garnered over a quarter million votes for Texas Supreme Court and appeared as a guest on both “60 Minutes” and “Coast to Coast AM” talks a lot about this.

            Al Adask may be heard Tuesdays, Wednesdays, & and Thursdays at 10:00 PM CST here:

            http://www.wwfar.com/

            Al publishes a blog which often touches on this here:

            http://adask.wordpress.com/

            3. HOUR OF THE TIME reruns of William Cooper or Doyel Shamley broadcasting live often touch on this here:

            http://www.hourofthetime.com/wordpresstest/?page_id=149

    1. Right, then no adjudicated laws, or other rulings, or cited complete redefinition of the word “municipal”. Those be a problem for your position.

      At least when it’s pointed out that the Fed is a private company–there’s the Minneapolis, or San Fran, or NYC phone book to back that point up. Of course the Fed is also ostensibly nonprofit, so if what is claimed is going on is indeed happening, then it’s some kind of fee the Fed is paying to other entities–not exactly debt on every dollar bill, more like a transaction fee.. (Always thought it very ironic that the government controlled Citibank for a short time–wouldn’t that give the US a vote on the Fed’s board?)

      Sorry: “Behold a Pale Horse”–the book–never quite convinced me. Not that there aren’t powerful entities trying to suppress much better technology and medicine and much more valid history, but Cooper is as much of a distraction as Alex Jones.

    2. Richard Pettigrew

      I believe David Icke discusses the historical context for this in his book “The truth shall set you free”.

      perhaps worth a cross-reference as he also cites sources in the bibliography.

  10. Like those with theocratic leanings are going to “save” the constitution; only in Glennbeckbachmannistan. (Irony alert). Christers will never vote for either man.

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