ON THE DEATH OF SEAL TEAM SIX

My heart goes out to those families that have lost loved ones - courageous people - in the attack on Seal Team Six.  I had wanted to comment on this at the time, but I truly believe that these families must be allowed time to grieve. I grieve with them, and grieve for our nation. Make no mistake, they lost their lives to defend my right to say what I am now going to say in this blog. I acknowledge my indebtedness to them, and to all veterans, for the priceless privilege to speculate, and to question, openly and freely.

As most people here know, I am deeply suspicious of the "Death" of Bin Laden. Like SS General Hans Kammler, it would appear that the man died several times, each time under very different circumstances. Then there was the woodenness of President Obama in reporting the event, and the dubious "evidence" we were shown of the death of the notorious Al Qaeda leader. Now, the very team that we're told led the raid, is dead. To be sure, we're told that none of the raid members were involved in the recent deaths. But who believes anything coming out of the government any more, much less this administration.

I must confess, I cannot avoid the fact that I am extremely suspicious of the deaths of these soldiers; it seems all to convenient a method of silencing anyone that might challenge the official story. We've been down that road before; one need only say "Kennedy assassination witnesses" to get that picture clearly. We're told that the Chinook helicopter did not contain any members actually involved in the raid on "Bin Laden's" compound, we're told that it was brought down by a lucky strike from an RPG (rocket propelled grenade), and that the perpetrators were hunted down and killed in an airstrike.

Now we're told that a movie deal is in the works, and that Hollywood producers are in close talks with Pentagon leaders in order to "get the story straight," in other words, the movie is likely to be pure propaganda designed to prop up an official story that looks increasingly tattered. Expect that movie to emphasize that we're in Afghanistan fighting "the war on terror" and not a war designed to gain control over the energy resources of the region and deny them to Russia, China, and India. But we've already lost that war, the real war: Russia and China have made it clear that any attack on Iran would be viewed as an attack on their own vital interests. Remember south Ossetia, and the lame attempt of "Grand Chessboard" players to secure that region? An attempt that Vladimir Putin quickly crushed?

The whole tragedy of the death of those soldiers is, that they died, really, for a deeper geopolitical reality, not "the war on terror" but "the war to keep energy out of Russia's and China's hands." That war is looking increasingly shaky.

And while we're at it, you might want to follow the oil money trail. Here's a place to begin: google "Bridas Corp" and you'll see how, after raping a certain South American country, the Anglo-American elite drove yet another former ally and proud nation into the hands of the emerging BRICS nations. In that, there lies a tale. Better yet, go to this wikipedia article, and connect a few more dots for yourself:

Bridas Corporation

During the recent Republithug presidential debate in Iowa, Congressman Ron Paul made an impassioned plea for the US to stop the "war on terror" (read, war to keep China and Russia from controlling central Asia energy supplies), and bring the troops home, and focus on our pressing domestic issues, including our economy.  I have to agree with the Congressman.

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

33 Comments

  1. nagoya on August 25, 2011 at 1:09 am

    Like many others, I’m not feeling warm and fuzzy about the American Fourth Reich running around and destroying the planet. The latest travesty is Libya, which was one of the few jewels in the world as far as governments go – and one of the few countries resisting the NWO agenda.

    It’s true that American Special Forces are courageous, but not as courageous as the poor Libyan volunteers with just rifles being attacked by those brave Americans in Apaches or jets.

    Also, regarding the question of the SEAL deaths, I think we might consider the idea that the darker side of the government has gradually corrupted the military, which is what happened to the Reich before ours. If you read the blog of Colonel6, you can find lots of solid stuff out of the special forces world, and this incident, too. That darker world is more than willing to “clean up” problems, such as Pat Tillman.



  2. Robert Barricklow on August 20, 2011 at 10:46 am

    There has been much speculation on the deaths of seal team 6(i liked the LSM takes).
    A popular truism came to my mind/ If three people are to keep a secret, two must be dead.
    Or as Kissinger said/ To be an enemy of the United States(read Israel) is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.



  3. MQ on August 20, 2011 at 8:08 am

    In the vein of companies you didn’t know wielded tremendous power, I give you Serco:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG_G5Y6FAjY



    • MattB on August 21, 2011 at 1:04 am

      I was just about to post that 🙂

      Serco is a very interesting company.



  4. Dave on August 20, 2011 at 1:21 am

    A few notes I strung together to put some context to my comments about factional infighting:

    * The late Aaron Russo told Alex Jones that Nick Rockefeller told him of an “event” that meant them going into Afghanistan (9/11), an event that likely involved a powerful directed energy weapon.
    * 1995-1997 Bridas, in competion with a US oil consortium UNOCAL, negotiated with the Taliban etc to build a gas and oil pipeline, starting from Turkmenistan, crossing Afghanistan and running into the Indian Ocean.
    Bridas won.
    * 1997 – The Bulgheroni family sold 60% of Bridas to Amoco (Standard Oil/Rockefeller) and established a joint venture with British Petroleum (Anglo-American Rockefeller/Rothschild/occult faction)
    * 2001 Then we had 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan and then..Unocal is awarded it and Bridas’s contract is rescinded (this oil faction dared to take on the Rockefeller faction – and was this punishment for the invasion?)
    * 2005 – Bridas sold its 40% to China National Petroleum (i.e. China) – China also attempted to buy Unacol in 2005 but this attempted buyout was blocked and Unacol merged with Chevron (US protectionism) and Bush cited National Security concerns – I bet he did lol.
    * 2006 Bridas then indicates interest in the Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline project.
    * 2007 – according to Engdhal in his book Gods of Money, the global financial crises was triggered by the collapse of Germany’s IKB Deutsche Industriebank in 2007. Inerestingly, this bank was set up originally in 1924 to facilitate German war reparations under the Dawes Plan (led by Wall Street & London) – was this collapse a message? Then we factor in David X. Li’s Gaussian copula model which didn’t help the situation…
    * June 2009 – Japanese men caught with fake US bonds, ones that may hold messages and symbols that say “we know the game and we can play it too.” Indicating a mordern day Operation Bernhard.
    * Dec 2009 – Norway Spiral – a demonstration of powerful directed energy from a HARRP like device, controled by Germany. Was this a message to Obama receiving his Nobel Peace Prize, to Russia or to both? Or did Russia conveniently fire a test misile on that day so as to render an effective display for HAARP? In any case, an intersting move from Germany!
    *20 April 2010 (Hitler’s birthday) BP oil “spill.”
    *28 Nov 2010 Bridas bought the remaining 60% share of Pan American Energy from BP because BP needed money from the convenient (for Bridas/China) “oil spill” to fund damages.
    * March 2011 – Japan hit by Tsunami that may have been artificially induced. Factor in Japan’s singal to move away from the Anglo-American circle of influence and making strongs ties with China – was this revenge for the fake bonds and breaking of ties?

    If we factor in not just the war between these elites, but the war of these elites have waged upon “their” own people via vaccinations, debt slavery, harmful food additives, mind control etc etc.

    These are just a few notes I strung together which, I think, affords an interesting, if but chilling, glimpse into the continuation of the “cosmic war.” Things appear to be speeding up and intensifying, as if they are against the clock; before our genetic cousins return perhaps? It appears to be a war to gain control over the planet, and its genetic slave race, before a certain time is up. And things are really hotting up…



  5. MattB on August 19, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Well have a look through the wiki links and you find that:

    CARLOS BULGHERO= International councillor and senior advisor for the SPACE INTITIATIVE PROGRAMME!!!!!!!!!……hhhmmmmm

    Now we have Mars, Moons and maybe at some stage a ‘Marti(a)n’ in there as well.

    The plot thickens.



  6. Ramura on August 19, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    It’s a terrible thing when the daughter of a Silver Star medal honoree and Cold War Naval veteran is at the point where it is difficult to say “something nice” in polite public about “our military who defend our freedoms.”

    But I must say that I highly respect former SEAL, Jesse Ventura, who used to be PROUD of his service, when he says “I would not serve in today’s military. It is only serving the Corporatocracy” (not a direct quote…paraphrasing here).

    I consider every person who serves in today’s military to be a “pawn in the game.” As I consider that each of us has our own path of learning, perhaps each needs to learn that lesson firsthand. Nonetheless, I see nothing to celebrate about it lately, and it is all I can do to keep my mouth shut at most parties…



    • Mel Hatfield on August 19, 2011 at 11:23 pm

      I agree wholehartedly with you, Ramura. I have said publicly, as a former Marine, I would not recommend that any young person join the US armed forces as they are structured today.

      Better to be unemployed and free of enslavement to a despot government, with the intent of War Without End. After as many as nine re-deployments an alarming number of soldiers a commiting suicide.

      No Honor – No Glory.



  7. Citizen Quasar on August 19, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Thanks for the tip on Bridas Corporation. That was news to me.

    IMO SEAL Team 6 was killed on orders from, well, Obama; much like LBJ ordered U.S. naval forces NOT to assist the U.S.S. Liberty in his hopes that the Israelis would sink it and no one would be left alive. I further believe that if my opinion in this matter is anywhere close to the truth, then U.S. Navy SEALS that are in the know have a DUTY to come forward with the truth…immediately if not yesterday.

    As far as Hollywood making any movie is concerned, it is instructive to note that magic wands are made out of holly wood. So Hollywood is appropriately named. MAYBE this is even WHY Hollywood was named Hollywood.



    • Don Barnaby on August 19, 2011 at 2:44 pm

      Citizen, I tend to agree as one who served in a special unit in the Far East in
      the early 60’s. I think those in the military, for the most part, do defend our freedoms even for those who speak out (1st Amendment) against these wars, of which I have my own reservations.



      • Jay on August 19, 2011 at 6:05 pm

        Don–

        That’s a load of dung, the Afghan war is NOT about our freedoms–get over it. It be about destroying your freedom.

        Citizen Q:

        And which secrets did the crew of the Liberty know exactly that the wider world couldn’t know. More likely orders from Cheney or Rumsfeld, or Daddy Bush, downed the Chinook good luck finding those orders though Just ignore the man behind the green curtain and imbibe your soporific predrawn teatard worldview.



        • Citizen Quasar on August 19, 2011 at 7:37 pm

          Jay: I only mentioned Obama because he is the Commander-in-Chief.

          I see that you are unable to see anything bad being done by a Dumbocrat. For you, as long as the President has a ‘D’ by his name instead of an ‘R’ then God is in His Heaven and all is right with the world. Hence, you have to transfer the blame to Cheney/Rumsfeld/Bush who were Republithugs, and are no longer in office.

          Also, it appears to me that you are unable, as the Obamanoid that you are, to believe that Obama is the evil murdering bastard that he is and that the wars and problems of the world that Obama does his best to increase and worsen are…the fault of the Bush (2) administration even after Obama has been in office for three years.

          As for the U.S.S. Liberty, you need to do your own research.

          I wonder if you are just some kind of agitator tard or if you are actually on the Federal payroll.

          BTW: LBJ was a Democrat.



          • Jay on August 20, 2011 at 8:27 am

            Obama doesn’t have that kind of power within the military. Both Cheney and Rumsfeld still would, I can think of others. The wars of GWBush that Obama has expanded are a problem–as are the extension of GWBush economic policies. I expected the latter in 2008, though not the former, when I voted against Obama because he was clearly just a young version of the criminal Ronald Reagan.

            So, LBJ was a sounthern Democrat who vastly expanded the Vietnam war, doesn’t mean that he was real likely to start a nuclear war with the Soviets over a “pre-emptive” war the Israelis launched against Egypt.

            Ya really gotta do better.



        • Vinnie on August 19, 2011 at 11:04 pm

          Jay,
          The Liberty was sent into those waters to be attacked and sunk and blamed on the Egyptians as the pretext to draw the US into attacking them. The planes were already loaded with their nuclear weapons and would have been dispatched were it not for the inconvenience of the ship and crew not going to their death.
          I served with two of the survivors, so please, please, for once sit down and play nice.



          • Jay on August 20, 2011 at 5:25 am

            With all respect to those who served on the Liberty why would they know about these nuclear weapons ready to go–in 1968 nuclear weapons were always ready to go on fuel and crewed planes.

            How would the Liberty being there stop the Israelis from using their own nuclear weapons?

            If you mean that the US wanted to use nuclear weapons that’s problematic, because then an all out nuclear war would start with the Soviets and that’s more a republican thing–back then and today.

            I’d be interested to know if Israel attacked a Soviet electronic spy ship the same day in the eastern Mediterranean.

            Yes, something untoward went down and the US helped cover it up, but I don’t think it’s about avoiding the start of nuclear war

            I can think of all sorts of good reasons US planes didn’t defend the Liberty–like for example that would be seen from the outside as the US allying itself with Israel, even if it were about defending the Liberty from an Israeli attack. In other words, US planes flying into an Israeli war zone is not a good idea–even today.



          • Vinnie on August 20, 2011 at 6:28 pm

            Jay,

            In response to your comment below. Look these over. I think this will make it a bit clearer to you.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSLlIRf-aQI

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6750sWZQS4

            http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/lest-we-forget-israels-attack-on-america-june-8-1967/

            http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6690425.stm (Haven’t read Hounam’s book, but here’s a brief summary.

            “‘US collusion’ theory

            Perhaps the most sinister motive is that put forward by journalist Peter Hounam in his 2003 book “Operation Cyanide”.

            The attack on the Liberty was pre-planned, perhaps from at least a year beforehand
            Peter Hounam

            Mr Hounam claims secret elements within the US and Israeli governments colluded to bomb the ship and blame the attack on Egypt and their superpower ally, the Soviet Union, triggering massive retaliation which would ensure Israeli victory.

            “The attack on the Liberty was pre-planned, perhaps from at least a year beforehand,” Mr Hounam says.

            “The Liberty was sent into a very dangerous situation, where it was, in my view, placed in a position to be attacked.”

            Mr Hounam says the intention was to sink the ship and kill everyone on board, but as the Liberty remained afloat the plan was aborted and has been hushed up ever since.”



          • Jay on August 21, 2011 at 5:52 am

            Vinnie-

            I never claimed to have a problem with a coverup about the attack on the Liberty, what bothered me about your position was the nuclear war you claimed was going to be started.

            If it were a long planned fake Soviet attack, then it makes no sense to use non Soviet planes and craft, afterall no one would ever think that the Liberty was going to the bottom after one shot.

            Note bene: The point in the BBC piece about a massacre of Egyptians. That looks like Israel trying to quickly cover up one crime with another. (That’s certainly not an unheard of event in the history of warfare.)



          • Vinnie on August 21, 2011 at 4:01 pm

            I think Jay, we might be able to agree, without adding or reading anything between the lines, that the mossad, with the exception of the Lavon Affair, has been among the most successful intelligence organizations in carrying out clandestine activities in the service of their country. That leaves me little room to believe that not only would they be capable of something like this, but that they would be willing to take the risk involved to give the US the cover to take down their most potent enemy. The response from LBJ was also very telling, wasn’t it? We can only guess what compromising information they had hanging over his head…..



          • Jay on August 21, 2011 at 10:13 pm

            V

            There’d still be a good reason to avoid having US warplanes fly into an Israeli/Egyptian war zone back in 1968 or later. If the attack on the Liberty were well planned then no one would have survived–sad but true.



          • Vinnie on August 22, 2011 at 10:09 am

            That’s the point Jay. They weren’t suppose to survive. You don’t take out the communications first and then all the life boats if you aren’t planning to kill everyone aboard. It was only when they thought that jets were scrambled and on the way that they broke off the attack and made up the story about believing it was an Egyptian ship.
            I mentioned to you that served with two survivors, one of whom broke his orders and talked about the attack. It wasn’t pleasant to listen to the stories or to imagine what it must have been like recovering the bodies of your shipmates and having body parts come off in your hands. He tried to kill himself several times, had his clearance pulled and was given a less than honorable discharge and his claims for medical help denied.
            A few months ago, I tracked him down and spent over an hour talking about how his life has unfolded. Not a pretty story either. Five marriages, alcohol problems ect. Just one more piece of equipment sacrificed to the sacred state.



          • Jay on August 22, 2011 at 1:57 pm

            Vinnie–

            If the attack were well planned and planned well in advance the Liberty would have been sunk with topedeos and or mines placed on the hull by divers. Not idenifiable aircraft and boats. It’s not that I can’t buy that the Israelis did it on purpose full well knowing it was a US ship; it’s the intended start of a nuclear war that’s the problem as is the ready identification of the attackers. It looks like very quickly thrown together operation on the part of the Israelis.

            Your friend’s horrible experiences don’t add anything to the claims about what the intention of the attack was. Sorry.



          • Vinnie on August 22, 2011 at 4:42 pm

            Jay,
            It’s good that you question everything and keep open to possible alternatives.



      • Citizen Quasar on August 19, 2011 at 7:41 pm

        Don Barnaby: I don’t think there are ANY soldiers who “do defend our freedoms.” There are only two kinds of soldiers (just like the police):

        1. Flunkies who only follow orders.
        2. Predators who enjoy killing.

        The U.S. military is nothing less than a Hitlerian war machine for the last quarter of a century.

        FWIW: I have three, THREE, honorable discharges myself.



  8. LSM on August 19, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    and all of these Seals went to their deaths thinking they were serving their country-

    just goes to show us the minute an individual or group is told to “rally ’round the flagpole” and become a patriotic whore of whichever country, the flagpole ends up sodomizing the rally-rounders- history has never been wrong about this-

    thank you, banksters- we love how you encourage us to take on your phallic worshiping practices-

    “Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel”- Patrick Henry

    patriotism = flag pole = phallic worship



    • LSM on August 19, 2011 at 1:56 pm

      and if I may add one more thing: has anyone not yet noticed this Seal team had the number 6?- was just wondering- obviously it means nothing…



  9. Jon Norris on August 19, 2011 at 11:51 am

    And let us not forget the precious poppy fields we have to keep out of the hands of the Taliban, lest they burn them again and cause the elite another 3.8 billion dollars in lost revenue.

    If the story is true, one wonders about the possibility of false intel being planted – perhaps the gunners didn’t know that team members are rotated out on a semi-regular basis. Or, maybe the new guys were fall guys, or maybe the original team was going to stage their own deaths to go black, or…..and on and on it goes. When you’re dealing with black/spec ops, very few people know the truth, and they’re not talking.

    That is assuming any of this is true at all. Perhaps the new team stumbled onto some heinous scheme and had to be silenced for another reason. Or maybe it was just politically expedient to help boost the polls.

    One thing is certain: the whole truth is not being told.



    • LSM on August 19, 2011 at 12:36 pm

      “One thing is certain: the whole truth is not being told.”-

      you said it all



  10. marcos anthony toledo on August 19, 2011 at 10:24 am

    My read on all this is the Republicans are planning what Richard Wagner coined Gotterdammerung the Anglo-Normans in the UK and USA know their strangle hold over the world is waneing. Rather than let their overlordship of the world slip from their hands they are quite willing to ignite Ragnarok wherther Osama is dead or not is immaterial I will give you this thought a nuclear device will fall into the hands of so called terrorists and I bet you it will not come from North Korea or Pakistan,rogue Russian scientist or China but quess it the USA. They are willing to destroy the world if they loose control of it.



  11. 88Eddie on August 19, 2011 at 9:53 am

    As much as i admire our military men and women, and their courage and patriotism, I question your statement that “Make no mistake, they lost their lives to defend my right to say what I am now going to say in this blog.”
    This simply isn’t true. They weren’t defending our right to free speech, press, association, etc., by fighting in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, et cet. The sooner we stop accepting the government’s phony excuse for these pointless wars of aggression, the better. These men did not have to fight or die in the Middle East to protect your freedom of speech. If anything, the War on Terror has been an unending font of justifications for curtailing our freedoms and eviscerating the Bill of Rights.
    It’s truly a shame to have to say it, but these men died in vain, in an illegal war, and for a false and pointless cause. This doesn’t mean they weren’t splendid patriots; it mean the criminals in Washington who sent them on dangerous fools errands are gutless war criminals and enemies of our Constitution and values.



    • Jay on August 19, 2011 at 1:23 pm

      Yep. Defending freedom, not.



    • MQ on August 20, 2011 at 8:23 am

      Agree. I think we’ve defended the right of defense companies to experience record profits through a decade of otherwise economic stagnation. Going back to the memes in Babylon’s Banksters, they’re controlling both sides of the conflict and reaping profit. In this game we have the game makers, players, pieces and broken pieces. Please note that lots of folks are pointing fingers at various players and pieces, but have lost focus on the game makers. At least Dr Farrell is at cause from a position of being the game un-maker, as he reveals the makers and the mechanisms of the trap we have here (and that’s probably duplicated elsewhere in other planetary cultures).



  12. Linda on August 19, 2011 at 7:57 am

    Let me play devil’s advocate for a moment:

    You think the Bush administration told the truth about anything?

    Obama was wooden? Another interpretation would be solemn. If he had shown any hint of anything else, the right wing media would have been all over him- wait, they are anyway. The guy can’t win. Further, you would not want to incite any of Al Qaeda or other radical Muslims more than you can avoid. Perhaps he conveys a serious message to foes that way and world leaders appreciate the serious treatment.
    (None of this, by the way, is addressing whether Bin Laden was eliminated then or earlier)

    I morn the death of every soldier sent out on the enterprise of enriching the corporations that control our country.

    As for Bin Laden, let’s think about another side. IF the attack on the team was not just a lucky shot by the enemy, perhaps someone had more to gain in the silence scenario so that someones does not confirm that they got Bin Laden. That coin can play two ways. That hint (barrage really) of doubt needs to be there to hinder Obama’s election bid and tarnish the idea that he’s the leader who got Bin Laden. Whose hand does that play into? More of the far right? The military/industrial complex? A different president that will escalate anything now and go for more? If TPTB are all that is implied, Obama’s hands may be tied. Food for thought.

    I’m not happy with Obama. But we really don’t know if he’s a puppet or been told to stand down, for the sake of this argument. Flame away if you want, I’m just trying to figure this out from another perspective and I am playing devil’s advocate- because I can see some other possibilities.

    The ones who could have done something about this, were Eisenhower and Truman. There, that will spread the blame around. Eisenhower was unique because he was popular, a war hero, and had he stood up to the military/industrial complex instead of warning about it, he might have saved the country a lot of grief, lives, and money and JFK might not have paid for that.

    Truman- I question whether he really had the savvy to be a president. He signed into being the CIA, created when Allen Dulles committed treason (IMHO) by countermanding FDR’s orders and bringing in the enemy. I don’t think FDR, had he lived, would allowed the creation of that agency.

    We are where we are today because of people who did not stop things when they had the chance. Woodrow Wilson and the Federal Reserve…. Didn’t he lament that later?



  13. Jay on August 19, 2011 at 6:55 am

    My freedoms are being protected by the Afghan war how? The war on terra seems to be about a good bit more than energy and copper, etc. Amongst other things, it’s a method of abusing basic freedoms we in the US enjoy, like this blog. Yes, could be silenced witnesses. Sort of akin to the time (ca 2004) when British commandos were caught in Iraq clearly preparing to set off what to the outside would look like sectarian violence.



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