THE QUIET WAR IN IRAN
There is a quiet war going on in Iran, one not mentioned in the press, and this is the assassination of Iranian scientists that may be involved in Iran's nuclear program.
Don't get me wrong. The fact that Iran has a government whose President openly pledged on more than just one occasion to wipe the entire nation of Israel out of existence is not a nation that has any grip on sanity or reality.
But please note also the article's clear insistence that the intelligence agencies of the USA themselves, after careful analysis of Iran's program, have concluded it is not being done in an effort to produce an independent Iranian nuclear deterrent. It is, as the article avers, a schizophrenic game:
"We can reduce this even further. It appears the one part of the CIA is involved in the attacks on these scientists because of nuclear weapons research another part of the CIA tells us is not taking place.
What sort of schizophrenic game is being played out here?
"First, complicity in the program of assassinations is a part of a policy that flows from a certain worldview. That worldview is anti-Iranian (this goes back to the 1978-79 Iranian revolution and the holding of American hostages), anti-Muslim (assuming a “clash of civilizations”), and pro-Israel (solidified by the power of the Zionist lobby)."
The conclusions that Professor Davidson draws are ones any rational person would draw:
"Therefore, no matter how benign the Iranian quest for nuclear energy is demonstrated to be, it is metamorphosed into something malignant by the demands of the prevailing worldview and its standing assumptions. This, in turn, justifies the attacks on those involved in Iran’s nuclear energy research."
Why then the current hype to inject even more intervention into the Middle East? To my mind there is another agenda than that simply of a skewed world view and "clash of civilizations" viewpoint (the viewpoint advocated and argued in Samuel P. Huntington's Clash of Civilizations). The West's economy is, at best, shaky, thanks to the wild greed of City of London and Wall Street banksters, and when their ponzi schemes inevitably approach collapse, invariably, their solution has been war.
This time around, let sanity prevail. The Iranian people want war no more than we do, notwithstanding the insanity of their leaders. Behind them are the much bigger guns of China and Russia. It's time for our elite to admit the facts: the age of American unipolarity is over (if indeed it had ever really begun), and there are problems that need to be addressed here at home, and international problems that can and should be addressed diplomatically, not from the barrel of a gun or "smart drones".
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I think that the USA is so addicted to war that they can think of nothing else the only thing that has kept Obama alive is his father wasn’t from the USA and after the last Kennedy assasination that of JFK jr. his crime he got married and the potential that maybe the late president grandchildern might run for his office sealed his fate. Getting back to Persia well it’s another shooting gallery for the socialpaths that run this empire another excuse to start war to loot the empire case in point read if you can find it Pentgonism by Juan Bosch.
Israel wages war on Iranian scientists
By Mahan Abedin
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MH27Ak04.html
OK, I think we have a bit of war coming to our side, with the fairly large earthquakes in CO and VA on 8/23 and now there’s a hurricane set to impact up to 65 million people: http://news.yahoo.com/east-coast-checks-bridges-readies-plans-irene-071003004.html
I guess more than one angel can play the HAARP.
If indeed the East Coast quake IS the product of a technology. There are a couple of indicators, but as of now, my mind is not made up.
Because there are never hurricanes in late August on the eastern seaboard (note irony).
nearly perfect misdirection.
A lot of food for thought,no doubt,we will all see what the future brings,perhaps more death and destruction,is that not what humans always seek,the childish way out?Good people exist everywhere including Iran,lies and false propaganda also exist to demean those who look different, and live in other countries,I live in California,and the prejudice is so thick here,you can cut it with a knife,ignorance is walking around the street,and the atmosphere is getting scary.Incidently,I love this site,thanks,there are truly a few pockets of intelligence in the U.S,but sadly,it needs much more ,for true understanding among people,as it stands,for now,it seems,(to me anyway),there’s too much division.
I sincerely doubt if the Iranian or Beltway leaderships have much of a say about what’s really going on here on this Babylon Bankster Planet. The same with the bourgeois class now unemployed who still believe the voting machines aren’t rigged. Or that the Republithugs and Demothugs represent the people’s interest. TEMPCO and BP illustrate who calls the shots since, after all, the Bankster Elite rule this corporate post-Paperclip Nazi NWO Era we find ourselves in. I don’t even think of them as “International Gangsters” anymore—since all indications point to them busily mining Luna for Helium, maybe gold mining the Asteroids or the Rings of Saturn. One wonders just how far Jameson’s “late capitalism” concept extends itself diplomatically and exopolitically in regard to our present quickly advancing “breakaway” civilization. As Dr. Farrell points out, our little blue marble world has gone thru several troublesome, cosmic regimes.
One of my work mates has just returned from a holiday to Iran. he loved it and found the people wonderfully hospitable and friendly. he also noted they really hate the Islamic government and are very repressed.
Iran Gov has to go so the wonderful people can contribute to the world again. No most of them do not want war with the west. Same with the Chinese when I was there last year.
Does anyone think Iran and israels leadership has to go?
Maybe I’m just old fashioned but somehow I don’t feel that I, or anyone other than the Iranian or Israeli people are qualified to make such a judgement. In fact, I might argue that there’s no authority or special wisdom I see issuing from the federal district and the criminal element within that ten mile square that leads me to believe they have any right or legal authority to do so.
What I can assure you of is that the best way to get into a fight is to interject oneself into the middle of a domestic dispute involving others. There can be no justification for picking winners and losers and overturning and installing leaders, when the US Inc. itself has rendered itself incompetent to fulfill even simple tasks it assigned itself like delivering the mail or that it was delegated to do like protecting the borders.
At the same time, I won’t stand in the way of anyone who wishes to take it upon themselves and right all the wrongs of the world, just so long as they include me out.
leaders…..? we don’ need no stinkin’ leaders….( just where are they leading anyway).. this sort of drama has been going on for thousands of years…Let’s make some popcorn and watch the show ….
The Babylon Banksters seem displeased? Turning their sleek HAARP “shake & bake” earthquake weaponry now onto the Beltway itself, giving the Washington Monument a new tilt. Ho-hum, East Coast Fukushima, here we go…
whatever pre-conceived ideas/opinions one has about David Icke, his report “Rothschild Zionism” readily available on his website is searingly insightful-
me thinks Ahmadinijad and his nuclear scientists (dead or alive?- we just don’t know- but we believe reports) just may be more pawns on a global chess game controlled by a hidden faction none of us can even BEGIN to understand-
“life is a stage”- author known-
so who are the producers of the spectacles, and who gives world leaders their stage blocking/lines/exits/entrances,etc.?- it’s a question very few ask-
being in the “theater business” myself I am more than aware of how a small few on “stage” can present a convincing illusion to a much larger group (audience) who will unthinkingly lap-up everything presented to them amongst sets, costumes, lighting, etc. (applause)-
the same occurs on a global level- nuclear scientists included
I was surprised to see you repeat the story that Ahmadinejad has stated that Iran wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, when it plainly is not true. Those ginning up the next war (against Iran) repeat this claim over and over, as justification for yet another violent intervention to stop something that hasn’t happened but supposedly might. The notion that the US must destroy anyone who even theoretically might oppose Israel is a chief curse of American foreign policy and has justly made us hated. Compare the number of persons Israel has killed, cluster-bombed, and rocketed over the last 50 years with those attacked by Iran. Which country boards unarmed vessels in the open seas and shoots civilians (including an American teenager, Furkan Dogan) in the head? Which is the real threat to world peace?
no time to weigh with long-worded response right now other than to say that this is one of the better blog threads on Giza Death Death Star — practically every comment here could be the seed of its own worthy thread.
Joseph may be too busy in his research to have looked up Ahmadinejad’s true remark and its correct translation. If you read this, Joseph, then please go to Arash Narouzi’s webpage, “Wiped off the map—the Rumor of the Century,” at http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4527. Read a word-by-word translation, into: “The imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.” The media in the U.S. are Zionist, and have no compunctions about falsifying ANYTHING to dominate the Muslim world.
Second, Joseph, if you’re reading this, if you would look into historical revisionism—like you did so beautifully with respect to “the Allied legend” and the JFK assassination—if, for example, you would read Juergen Graf’s online “The Giant with Feet of Clay,” or Robert Faurisson, or the Institute of Historical Review, you would find that Allied lying did not stop at the German atomic bomb project and other Nazi weaponry. Of the 3 souces i listed above, the best is Graf’s short book. There is not a single autopsy indicating death by poison gas in any of the German concentration camps. Read Graf for a synopsis of the case against the Holocaust exceeding more than 300,000 Jews. Or read Thomas Dalton’s book, “Debating the Holocaust: A New Look at Both Sides.”
You have penetrated so many establishment lies, why in the world would you accept their story of the Holocaust? Do you think they wouldn’t lie about that?
Finally, striking is the absence from your book, “LBJ and the Conspiracy to Kill Kennedy,” is any mention of Michael Collins Piper’s “Final Judgment,” presenting strong evidence that the Mossad was also in the family of conspirators, because of (1) Kennedy’s order for the Treasury to print money instead of borrowing from the Fed, and (2) opposing Israel’s requests for aid in building nuclear weapons at Dimona.
In “Babylon’s Banksters,” you present good evidence that the private central banksters may have forced World War II on Germany.. So why in the world would you believe what the newspapers they also own say about the Holocaust?
This vid has been removed by the free and open minded YouTube patsies.
Try this instead:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=976870941610001004
The “game” is called ‘Let’s Pretend.’
It has nothing to do with your article, not on the face of it, anyway.
It has to do with Weapons of Mass DistrAction, not Weapons of
Mass DistrUction.
Our Phd scientists are left so ignorant, maybe the Iranians
are willing to talk about things We The People in the US
are not suppose to know.
Maybe they’ve been around the Solar System a few more times than
the Americans and that can’t be tolerated.
After all, we are also murdering our own, those with big mouths.
Free Press? Dream on.
No offense, Joseph, but don’t take so much for granted.
Your extremely good research and diversification should
have told you that by now.
Even our web-net is being censored, slowly, but censored nonetheless,
and many in Congress LIKE China’s.
Mr. Farrell, I just subscribed to your site yesterday and what do I find today?
“Don’t get me wrong. The fact that Iran has a government whose President openly pledged on more than just one occasion to wipe the entire nation of Israel out of existence is not a nation that has any grip on sanity or reality.”
I’m greatly disappointed that YOU try to pawn as FACT an absolute LIE about what Ahmadinijad said. What are you trying to do? Things are bad enough without parroting israeli/zionist lies.
Here’s what he said:
The full quote translated directly to English:
“The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time”.
Word by word translation:
Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
Please DO NOT make this mistake again!!
OK, this just happened:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14634730
5.9 earthquake in VA area, felt from NC to NY. Seems much larger than anything the east coast would usually experience. I’ll bring it up: could this be HAARP from a faction showing their “disapproval”? Yeah, it’s really out there, but not much surprises me anymore. Would you have believed that gold would drop $70 in one day? This is an “interesting” time to be alive.
Ahmadinejad never said that thing about Israel. Ever wonder why during UN sessions simultaneous translating ceases to function when Mr Ahmadinejad’s talk begins? This must be one of those recurring coincidences we encounter so often when dealing with certain special interests. One of my friends is an Iranian, she obviously speaks the language, is a physicist and also speaks German, French, and English. Her translations are extremely revealing. But then, everybody opposing certain interests is labeled a terrorist. Perhaps Iran will use their pariah status, do it like North Korea and call the nuke bluff. ”Now we also have nukes! If you don’t acknowledge this, we will start a media campaign explaining how the nuke hoax was started, by whom, and why. Then all the world will realize how they have been had.” A lot of Zbingsky Bagigskis would be very unhappy about such a development. We are talking about the former Persian empire here, in an eight year war against Iraq they never gave up one inch of their land. The overstretched and undermanned US military – after ten years of endless casualties in two or more wars – certainly is no match for Iran, China, and Russia, no matter how willing Israel is to fight to the last US soldier.
You are totally right about what Ahmadinejad said about Israel, Karl. He never said that he wanted it to be wiped off the face of the earth. That was mistranslated deliberately and then pushed wholesale in the US (totally Israel-centric) main stream media. They wanted to portray him as a new Hitler … which of course he isn’t. In fact there isn’t anyone remotely like Hitler around today … except maybe Netanyahu … or Rumsfeld … or Richard Pearl … or Henry Kissinger … or Dick Cheney … Dov Zakheim or … hang on a minute … aren’t they all pro-Israel and/or Jewish Neocons??? Nahh … couldn’t be.
Anyway, on a personal note, I have actually been to Iran. Its a bloomin wonderful country with the friendliest people I have ever met. Proper friendly too … not the kind of friendly on the surface when you first meet them kind of friendly, and then stab you in the back as soon as you turn it kind of friendly.
Its their right completely if they want to have nuclear power. There is no evidence whatsoever that they are even wanting to build a nuclear weapon of any sort. Israel is frightened that they may become self sufficient in energy, and … much further down the line that they may consider building a weapon to deter ISRAEL since it has had the bomb for many years as everyone knows.
Iran having the bomb would destroy Israel’s hegemony over the Middle East and more importantly it would probably destroy their blackmail hold over the US and others. Israel is basically a cowardly bully, and although they say they would use their Samson Option if they go down, they are actually too cowardly to do such a thing. Why would they anyway? It would be a spiteful and truly dumb thing to do in any case.
Anyway, the word on the street is that it is the Mossad that has been knocking of the scientists. Maybe the CIA are involved maybe not. But as they were probably in cahoots with Israel over 9/11 I wouldn’t put it passed them. They have their dirty fingers in so many pies, I bet even they can’t remember any more.
“It’s time for our elite to admit the facts…”
First: I STRONGLY disagree with everybody calling them “elite.” The word elite implies some form of morally valid reason for them to be in the economic stratosphere. There is NOTHING elite about them. They are as scandalous as is humanly possible. Ayn Rand pegged it right in ‘Atlas Shrugged’ when she called them “Looters.” This is exactly what they are but for some reason everybody refuses to use this term.
Secondly: Calling them “our” elite is incorrect. These scoundrels are NOT “ours.” The ONLY link they have to “us” is that we (Americans) live in the same geographic area where one group of these scoundrels spend most of their time and reek as much havoc (Stay tuned on this one.) as they are able to.
Third: Calls for them to “admit the facts” (publicly?) are as absurd as their refusal to acknowledge such facts publicly. These people are VERY aware of what they are doing. Their plan is to vampirically suck the life out of every human being, decimating this planet in the process, and then to genocidally wipe Earth clean, except for, perhaps, a few billion tombstones which they intend to stroll among and slaver and drool over.
As far as I know, no one in Iran EVER said anything about “wiping the nation of Israel out of existence” (I could be wrong on this but I am pretty sure “anti-Zionist” statements were taken out of context and amplified by U.S. gobmit officials and corporate media presstitutes.).
I AM aware that the U.S. has had Special Forces operating on the ground in Iran for upwards of a decade. So it does not surprise me (Hell, it’s a corollary.) that the CIA has been assassinating Iranian scientists.
The American government has prevented stability in Iran for over half a century. Shortly after WWII, Iran had a Harvard educate elected Prime Minister and was a western style government and society.
Iranian Prime Minister decided that Iranians should receive an equitable amount of profit from Iranian oil and the CIA fomented a revolution, took him out, killed most of the elected government, and installed the pawn of the oil companies, the Shah.
One Iranian, when asked what he thought Iran would be like today if the 1953 coup had never happened, said, “Like France” without a second’s hesitation.
Supporting links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ajax
“It’s ALL part of the Master Plan.”
CORRECTION:
Mohammed Mosaddegh did NOT attend Harvard. According to Wikipedia he received his Bachelor of Arts and Masters in (International) Law from University of Paris (Sorbonne) before pursuing a Doctorate in Law from the University of Neuchâtel in Switzerland. Mosaddegh also taught at the University of Tehran at the start of WWI before beginning his long political career.
This is even MORE impressive in my book. In any case, NOT exactly the goat herding Islamo-kooks that we are led to believe were there then.
I suppose I should read my own sources.
I call them the Sons of Plunder as they were born and raised to do just that.
Am I the only one who wonders why it’s only the US among all the nations of the world that seemingly is unable to live and get along with nations with whom there may be disagreements, even grave ones? Where is their the legal, or moral authority for this nation to intervene in the affairs of other nations, to the point where no thought or concern is given to the lives and property of the innocent civilian populations of these countries, and who’s qualified to decide the fate of nations?
Are we who live in this country so blind as not to see or understand that the world was, is and always will be an imperfect place, filled with danger, but that in itself gives no justification for utopian crusades or financial conquests cloaked in grandiose terms of national greatness.
We have no better template of what Washington counciled in the way of foreign policy than modern day Switzerland; neutral, independent, a limited federal republic and one that is well armed and defended.
What better lesson to learn than when one gives up the principals upon which it was founded to fight a great evil, it will itself become in the end that very same evil.
It’s not the US per se, it’s the bankster factions (global) that are putting up all of these false goals and distractions. Plus land wars in Asia are a really bad idea. If our “superior technology” was such, it wouldn’t take 10 years to handle it. Of course, it’s as much denying a resource to China as it is getting it for ourselves.
It’s simply not true that the wacky president of Iran pledged to wipe Israel from the map, nor did a high religious leader in Iran.
The president said something along the lines of: the state of Israel wil fade from history.
And the high religious figure, don’t remember who, said of course Israel fears being attacked with a single atomic weapon, it’s a very small country with many people concentrated in Tel Aviv.
Claims that Iran has threatened to wipe Israel from the map are from the FoxNews, non Farsi speaking, jingoistic talking heads of the right in the US and Israel.
And any chance of rescheduling the chat for this friday? I am not going to have pc access until winter probably due to training. Wanted to get one last good hurrah in.
very interesting post. I had no idea this was still going on. and it is very schizophrenic indeed.