20 thoughts on “NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM SEPT 2, 2011 PART TWO”

  1. Have you ever noticed Joseph how a good writer with the best intentions can rely on people turning into an angry mob the moment he dares write about religion?

    Next they’ll put each other on burning sticks and call each other witches and demonic.
    The Dark Ages… rely on it to be just beneath the thin veneer of ‘civilization’.

  2. “For me the final straw was the inability to reconcile the “morality” in those books. I do not need a book to tell me what to think, nor to condition my mind about God or the good. As far as I am concerned, the great monotheisms are the biggest obstacle to spirituality there ever was.”

    Due to the subjects of your books, I would say it is wise not to bring more controversy that could overshadow the most important issues.
    And I don´t think that is a question of being told what to think by a book: that is for retards and dummies. A book should us think or help setting our ideas straight and coherent. The acceptance of what is being said is and will always be our own. That is responsability. That is freedom.
    And like Jesus said: The truth shall set you free. If this isn´t a nice, elegant moral concept, I don´t know what it is.

    The choice of judging an idea or just accepting and parroting and monkeing it is a personal issue.

    And know, Dr. Farrel, how about a hint concerning your new books?
    “The Grid” was done in a week. I remember a book about the heirs of the Templars in Portugal – The Order of Christ – building several edifices (chapel, churches, fortresses) in a grid / geometric layout to manipulate / influencing the future
    during the late XIV – Early XVI centuries.

  3. The head of the so-called Bilderbergers is a Nazi
    (Barnhard or is it Barnyard?)
    to this very day.
    So was Werner von Braun to the day he died.

    At any rate, it sounds like we are both having a few bad days.

      1. Joseph, I am an overfill of information !
        Thanks for the reminder.

        I KNEW THAT…….!

        Admittedly I don’t so much follow the
        so-called New World Order too much these days.
        I’m on to much BETTER and BIGGER things.

        Some may not follow that train of thought and
        certain prescient ideas scare them, as well it should.
        Hence the complete confusion in the realm of Kings.

        But stick with me, kid; you’re OK 😉

  4. 1953 – WOMAN’S VOICE MAGAZINE
    “Mrs. Van Hyning, I am surprised at your surprise. You are a student of history — and you know that both the Borgias and the Mediciis are Jewish families of Italy. Surely you know that there have been Popes from both of these houses. Perhaps it will surprise you to know that we have had 20 Jewish Popes, and when you have sufficient time, which may coincide with my free time, I can show you these names and dates. You will learn from these that : The crimes committed in the name of the Catholic Church were under Jewish Popes. The leaders of the inquisition was one : De Torquemada, a Jew.”
    From an article in ‘Woman’s Voice’, November 25, 1953.

  5. Citizen Quasar has presented hisself as he “feels”. I would suspect he has been the subject, in the past of a Christian authoritarian domination of his freedom of choice. Most athiests I encounter have suffered religious abuse to one degree or another. Christianity would be great if it were not for Christians. The problem for Citizen Quasar is the inability to seperate the deplorable actions of a radical group of fundamentalists calling itsself Christian from the personage of Jesus Christ and what he actually said.

  6. Citizen Quasar: “And then there’s the Christians that have murdered millions of non-Christians, like the Inquisition for example; and the deaths of millions of Muslims in the 21st century, continuing as I type this.”

    Tomas de Torquemada – First Grand Inquisitor of the Spanish Inquisition was a Crypto-Jew.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=389_1214782114

    “The deaths of millions of Muslims in the 21st century.”

    Here’s the evidence it was “Christians” being bamboozled once again as in WWI and WWII.
    Israel Did 9/11 – All the Proof in the World

    http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

  7. Joseph,
    I have not read your books, but from the short time I’ve been getting emails from the ‘Nefarium,’ it appears you are ignoring the preponderance of evidence pointing a decidedly guilty finger at the Synagogue of Satan that Jesus railed against, and whose ideology, a truly racist and anti-Christ one, which traces it’s roots from the Babylonian Talmud (and prior to that who knows for sure) through the Cromwell period of history in England, which allowed the reintroduction of Jews into England after an earlier King had kicked the Jews out (a process duplicated throughout history by many countries), the Illuminati, the subversion of the American revolution, the provoking of the French Revolution, the Jews from New York and parts of Europe directly responsible for the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia that murdered directly (including the Czar and his family) and through starvation well over 30 million mostly Christians and ushered in Communism as a global strategy towards world domination as well as coinciding with Political Zionism.

    1. And then there’s the Christians that have murdered millions of non-Christians, like the Inquisition for example; and the deaths of millions of Muslims in the 21st century, continuing as I type this.

      And then there’s Christians telling me, and everyone else who is NOT superstittious, that I/we are all doomed to eternal torment and damnation by their all-loving Sky Daddy for not believing in their brand of magickind, for NOT believing in Yahweh (What a stupid name for an ‘almighty god.’), Jew Zeus, and the rest of the fictional characters that spring forth from their imaginations and their belief that reality is a haunted house. According to Christians, i can’t even escape the vindictive fury of their imaginary loving “Savior” by me hiding in my grave.

      Some people, myself included think there even never was a “Jesus(Jew-Zeus, Zoo-Juice)”. Some people, myself included, think that faith, belief in something without any (= zero) evidence is not only the enemy of reason (as in being “un-reasonable”) but, with its corollary the initiation of the use of force, it is the enemy of mankind and a destroyer of civilization. Some people, myself included, recognize Christianity, and all other forms of faithism, as nothing less than mind control mechanisms.

      Yet I see that you’ve got it all figured out:

      It’s the JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!! And the JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!! can be easily traced and documented by RACE.

      There is a word for this. The word is RACISM. Racism is the tool of those who have decided NOT to examine principles and other abstract concepts.

      Perhaps Dr. Farrell has a different opinion. It is, after all, His blog. I am just passing through.

      1. Citizen Quasar,

        let me use your penultimate paragraph to accuse you – not for “racism” (go see what that word means) – but of ignorance.
        You and a lot of folks should have plenty of motives for not being happy with your christian aquantacies. A lot of them are quite boring indeed, even for other christians. But I bet that the same can be said about other religions.

        You start by insulting christians saying that there are dumb, etc, etc, etc, “mind control”, blá, blá, blá…
        I believe that is reasonable to say that any organized religion can enjoy a great amount of power over a society.
        But now so do political parties and soccer clubs, and I would even dare to say that in the west it would be easier to set a city on fire for soccer issues than by religious ones.

        You show ignorance – and arrogance – by criticizing something that you blatantly do no know.
        Have you ever read the Gospels?
        Forget who wrote them, who invent them, who fake them, who inspire them (aliens, God, satan, wise men).
        Have you ever read them?
        Forget those who thump their hands on their chest and praising Jesus (I would love to know how many read the Gospels).
        But, Have YOU, to criticize?

        How old are you?
        What life experience do you have for not accepting, understand and by doing this respecting something that is so reasonable for an adult and so useful for a decent moral basis for a civilization to exist and thrive?

        Want “reason”?
        What kind? The one that came from Rosseau?
        Marx, perhaps?
        National-Socialsm?

        Plenty of materialistic, “scientific” religions to choose from, and ALL of them with NOOOOOO mind control.
        Oh no!

        Put this in you little mind: hundreds of millions of humans were killed, maimed, tortured and jailed on the XX century alone thanks to your “pseudo-emancipated, pseudo-enlightened reason”.

        And by the way, you oh so rational Citizen Quasar, tell us how many christians are killed EACH YEAR by muslims!

        Mr. Farrell, a bit far-fetched that Hidrogen bomb-Viracocha. Other than that – and a few minor typos, a great book.
        By the way: that aztec “Yahweh” reference was very intriguing indeed but would bring a lot of sense to things that I always found weird.

        Praise: you certainly didn´t lay down the basic research done by the authors on your references and quotes, but no one (maybe Hancock) did so much to create a big coherent picture of our history.
        Every work of yours – in my opinion – defines a moment when things can or should be seen in a completly new way. They cannot be ignored.

        1. “Citizen Quasar,

          let me use your penultimate paragraph to accuse you – not for “racism” (go see what that word means) – but of ignorance.
          You and a lot of folks should have plenty of motives for not being happy with your christian aquantacies. A lot of them are quite boring indeed, even for other christians. But I bet that the same can be said about other religions.”

          My Christian “(sic)aquatacies” do NOT “bore” me so much as they DISGUST me. The same COULD be said for other religions, but the majority where I live are Christians. As their premise is the primacy of consciousness, their frame of reference is what is in OTHER people’s minds. So they speak out seeking implied consent (Where their statements are assumed true if they are not denied.) and I am constantly compelled to counter them.

          “You start by insulting christians saying that there are dumb, etc, etc, etc, “mind control”, blá, blá, blá…
          I believe that is reasonable to say that any organized religion can enjoy a great amount of power over a society.”

          Inasmuch as ALL religions are based on faith, belief in something with zero evidence, this is true and I agree. The reason that I singled out Christianity as the example is because Steve Campbell wrote “murdered …well over 30 million…Christians” as if there is some morally righteousness superiority to Christianity.

          Yet, your statement here implies that it is “organized” that is the only bad part of “organized religion” whereas religion, faithism, itself is bad whether it is organized or not.

          “But now so do political parties and soccer clubs, and I would even dare to say that in the west it would be easier to set a city on fire for soccer issues than by religious ones.”

          Really?

          “You show ignorance – and arrogance – by criticizing something that you blatantly do no know.
          Have you ever read the Gospels?”

          Yes.
          When I was a Christian DECADES AGO I read the Bible from cover to cover TWICE. I also memorized many verses and I am presently very conversant in both the Old and the New Testaments.
          I also attended church, various churches, on a weekly basis, if not more often, for years. I have two uncles and one grandfather who are/were in the ministry. One of these uncles (who is in his eighties, FWIW) is an Elder in his church (the equivalent of a bishop). My mother is VERY religious.

          Want to go for the Quran, the Book of Mormon, and/or the Bhagavad-gita?

          “Forget who wrote them, who invent them, who fake them, who inspire them (aliens, God, satan, wise men). Have you ever read them?”

          Yes. I have read them. They are a load of crap; both historically AND morally.

          “Forget those who thump their hands on their chest and praising Jesus (I would love to know how many read the Gospels).
          But, Have YOU, to criticize?”

          Yes.
          Q:How does one lead a rational life in an irrational world?
          A: One must never fail to pronounce moral judgment. And so I do. I don’t need to ask someone’s permission to speak my mind. I don’t need to ask someone’s permission to speak the truth.

          “How old are you?”

          54.

          “What life experience do you have for not accepting, understand and by doing this respecting something that is so reasonable for an adult and so useful for a decent moral basis for a civilization to exist and thrive?”

          There is NOTHING “so reasonable for an adult “ NOR “so useful for a decent moral basis for a civilization to exist and thrive” in using faith (as opposed to reason) as a tool of cognition, in advocating self-sacrifice (altruism) as a moral guidepost for ANY life form (ESPECIALLY a sentient one whose ONLY tool of survival is its rational faculty), in pretending that flesh and the material world are evil and that there is some value in leaving existence (to go…where?). These are recognizable attributes of every form of mysticism (religion) known to man.

          I don’t accept your premise in your question as valid and I challenge you to properly (non-contradictorily) validate it. Your intention was to trick me into accepting your premise and to use my acceptance of your premise to invalidate and to negate the moral (and political) conclusions that my fifty-four years of life experiences have taught me
          .
          Your thought process in this regard was premised on your mistaken belief that I am mentally incapable of parsing your argument and that I am mentally incapable of extracting your premise, that I am mentally incapable of rebutting it; that I am a complete idiot. I find this attempted trickery offensive, at least in an intellectual context.

          Further, your entire response is based on the premise that I must surely be mis-informed because no one in their right mind would call Christianity or the teachings of the Bible a destroyer of worlds, faith a killer of minds. What you really mean here is that the reason that my conclusions are wrong is NOT because of any flaw in my reasoning, but, rather, because I go against the great masses of humanity, the collective, the group, the herd (the ones who the New World Order, in all its manifestations throughout recorded history…manipulate), your mother’s teachings.

          “Want “reason”?
          What kind? The one that came from Rosseau?
          Marx, perhaps?
          National-Socialsm?”

          No. The reason I speak of is that of Rand, as in Ayn Rand. Rosseau, Marx, and National-Socialism are NOT reasonable.

          “Plenty of materialistic, “scientific” religions to choose from, and ALL of them with NOOOOOO mind control.
          Oh no!”

          Here you speak of “materialism” as if there is something inherently evil about desiring material possessions. This is one of the three things that ALL mystics (faithists) have in common which I mentioned above. As we are material beings living in a material world, we MUST acquire material possessions to survive. So it is survival, life, itself that you are saying is evil here. Plainly, reasoning from your premise, you think death is good.

          There are NO “scientific” religions. Science is based on reason and NOT faith and involves and results in reproducible and demonstrable facts of objective reality and NOT on unquestioning acceptance of the words of others NOR of other’s unproven and unprovable fantasies.

          “Put this in you little mind: hundreds of millions of humans were killed, maimed, tortured and jailed on the XX century alone thanks to your “pseudo-emancipated, pseudo-enlightened reason”.

          Here again you are putting forth an invalid premise that I reject outright. The reason that millions of humans were killed in the XXth century is NOT because of reason but because of the LACK of reason. Here, I will take the opportunity to interject that it is obvious that you are attacking reason, man’s rational faculty and tool of survival as a life form, and that this is what ALL mystics do, being dimly aware that by attacking reason they are standing shoulder to shoulder with the masses.”

          “And by the way, you oh so rational Citizen Quasar, tell us how many christians are killed EACH YEAR by muslims!”

          No.

          “Mr. Farrell…”

          He is too modest to call you on it but, it is “Doctor,” Farrell.
          “Citizen Quasar,

          let me use your penultimate paragraph to accuse you – not for “racism” (go see what that word means) – but of ignorance.
          You and a lot of folks should have plenty of motives for not being happy with your christian aquantacies. A lot of them are quite boring indeed, even for other christians. But I bet that the same can be said about other religions.”

          My Christian “(sic)aquatacies” do NOT “bore” me so much as they DISGUST me. The same COULD be said for other religions, but the majority where I live are Christians. As their premise is the primacy of consciousness, their frame of reference is what is in OTHER people’s minds. So they speak out seeking implied consent (Where their statements are assumed true if they are not denied.) and I am constantly compelled to counter them.

          “You start by insulting christians saying that there are dumb, etc, etc, etc, “mind control”, blá, blá, blá…
          I believe that is reasonable to say that any organized religion can enjoy a great amount of power over a society.”

          Inasmuch as ALL religions are based on faith, belief in something with zero evidence, this is true and I agree. The reason that I singled out Christianity as the example is because Steve Campbell wrote “murdered …well over 30 million…Christians” as if there is some morally righteousness superiority to Christianity.

          Yet, your statement here implies that it is “organized” that is the only bad part of “organized religion” whereas religion, faithism, itself is bad whether it is organized or not.

          “But now so do political parties and soccer clubs, and I would even dare to say that in the west it would be easier to set a city on fire for soccer issues than by religious ones.”

          Really?

          “You show ignorance – and arrogance – by criticizing something that you blatantly do no know.
          Have you ever read the Gospels?”

          Yes.
          When I was a Christian DECADES AGO I read the Bible from cover to cover TWICE. I also memorized many verses and I am presently very conversant in both the Old and the New Testaments.
          I also attended church, various churches, on a weekly basis, if not more often, for years. I have two uncles and one grandfather who are/were in the ministry. One of these uncles (who is in his eighties, FWIW) is an Elder in his church (the equivalent of a bishop). My mother is VERY religious.

          Want to go for the Quran, the Book of Mormon, and/or the Bhagavad-gita?

          “Forget who wrote them, who invent them, who fake them, who inspire them (aliens, God, satan, wise men). Have you ever read them?”

          Yes. I have read them. They are a load of crap; both historically AND morally.

          “Forget those who thump their hands on their chest and praising Jesus (I would love to know how many read the Gospels).
          But, Have YOU, to criticize?”

          Yes.
          Q:How does one lead a rational life in an irrational world?
          A: One must never fail to pronounce moral judgment. And so I do. I don’t need to ask someone’s permission to speak my mind. I don’t need to ask someone’s permission to speak the truth.

          “How old are you?”

          54.

          “What life experience do you have for not accepting, understand and by doing this respecting something that is so reasonable for an adult and so useful for a decent moral basis for a civilization to exist and thrive?”

          There is NOTHING “so reasonable for an adult “ NOR “so useful for a decent moral basis for a civilization to exist and thrive” in using faith (as opposed to reason) as a tool of cognition, in advocating self-sacrifice (altruism) as a moral guidepost for ANY life form (ESPECIALLY a sentient one whose ONLY tool of survival is its rational faculty), in pretending that flesh and the material world are evil and that there is some value in leaving existence (to go…where?). These are recognizable attributes of every form of mysticism (religion) known to man.

          I don’t accept your premise in your question as valid and I challenge you to properly (non-contradictorily) validate it. Your intention was to trick me into accepting your premise and to use my acceptance of your premise to invalidate and to negate the moral (and political) conclusions that my fifty-four years of life experiences have taught me
          .
          Your thought process in this regard was premised on your mistaken belief that I am mentally incapable of parsing your argument and that I am mentally incapable of extracting your premise, that I am mentally incapable of rebutting it; that I am a complete idiot. I find this attempted trickery offensive, at least in an intellectual context.

          Further, your entire response is based on the premise that I must surely be mis-informed because no one in their right mind would call Christianity or the teachings of the Bible a destroyer of worlds, faith a killer of minds. What you really mean here is that the reason that my conclusions are wrong is NOT because of any flaw in my reasoning, but, rather, because I go against the great masses of humanity, the collective, the group, the herd (the ones who the New World Order, in all its manifestations throughout recorded history…manipulate), your mother’s teachings.

          “Want “reason”?
          What kind? The one that came from Rosseau?
          Marx, perhaps?
          National-Socialsm?”

          No. The reason I speak of is that of Rand, as in Ayn Rand. Rosseau, Marx, and National-Socialism are NOT reasonable.

          “Plenty of materialistic, “scientific” religions to choose from, and ALL of them with NOOOOOO mind control.
          Oh no!”

          Here you speak of “materialism” as if there is something inherently evil about desiring material possessions. This is one of the three things that ALL mystics (faithists) have in common which I mentioned above. As we are material beings living in a material world, we MUST acquire material possessions to survive. So it is survival, life, itself that you are saying is evil here. Plainly, reasoning from your premise, you think death is good.

          There are NO “scientific” religions. Science is based on reason and NOT faith and involves and results in reproducible and demonstrable facts of objective reality and NOT on unquestioning acceptance of the words of others NOR of other’s unproven and unprovable fantasies.

          “Put this in you little mind: hundreds of millions of humans were killed, maimed, tortured and jailed on the XX century alone thanks to your “pseudo-emancipated, pseudo-enlightened reason”.

          Here again you are putting forth an invalid premise that I reject outright. The reason that millions of humans were killed in the XXth century is NOT because of reason but because of the LACK of reason. Here, I will take the opportunity to interject that it is obvious that you are attacking reason, man’s rational faculty and tool of survival as a life form, and that this is what ALL mystics do, being dimly aware that by attacking reason they are standing shoulder to shoulder with the masses.”

          “And by the way, you oh so rational Citizen Quasar, tell us how many christians are killed EACH YEAR by muslims!”

          No.

          “Mr. Farrell…”

          He is too modest to call you on it but, it is “Doctor,” Farrell.

          1. For me the final straw was the inability to reconcile the “morality” in those books. I do not need a book to tell me what to think, nor to condition my mind about God or the good. As far as I am concerned, the great monotheisms are the biggest obstacle to spirituality there ever was.

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