ONE OF THE CITY OF LONDON’S FAILURES (?)
There is an interesting school of historical revisionism taking place in Germany, and I am not talking about the goofball Neo-Nazi holocaust revisionist nonsense either. The revisionism has encompassed, as I detail in some of my books about Nazi secret weapons and survival plans, been led by such researchers as Friedrich George, Harald Faeth, Dr. Rainer Karlsch, and my colleague, Igor Witkowski, and has encompassed a re-examination of the Allied Legend concerning the actual state of Nazi atom bomb research, to deeper probings into the whole story of alternative technologies such as those represented by the Bell, to an examination of little-known installations and the whole complex of secret weapons research.
But there is another aspect of this story that researchers are investigating, and that is the whole story of the City of London's manipulations of the Reich with the intentions to destroy it. Now a German military officer has published a book in that country, based in part on a document that the British government is not - at least thus far - denying(I am indebted to Vince Terranova for sharing this information with me):
England Instigated World War Two
Certainly the Nazi regime is not guiltless in the origins of World War Two, but this report is correct: there always was since the German Empire was proclaimed in 1871 at the conclusion of the Franco-Prussian war, the realization in the elite political and financial circles of London, that the German Reich constituted the greatest potential threat to the British Empire, and there was a party in England that did want its destruction at all costs, just as there was a party that hoped to appease the Nazi regime in an effort to avert war.
The implications here are worthy of note. When one places this book within the wider context of the research of Anthony Sutton, or even of Carroll Quigley, a picture emerges of Anglo-American corporate elites installing three varieties of socialist governments: Communism, National Socialism, and Roosevelt's New Deal socialism. According to this school of analysis, the hope was to play Germany off against Russia (after, of course, the Communists proved less-than-compliant servants of their corporate masters). The "plan" went awry, of course, and Russia ended up with an empire deeply embedded into central Europe.
And that's the real point here. The elites continue to play the old European game of power politics, and that game has always included gross miscalculation. The problem is, I have that sinking feeling that as the Middle East tears itself to tatters that we are watching a similar sort of miscalculation.
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Supposedly the City of London is actually a state within a state in the legal sense. I once read that the Queen of England must ask permission to enter the part of London demarcated as the City of London. The City of London is supposedly the Central Bank that controls all other Central Banks. Past Kings of England have indebted themselves and hence the City was able to negotiate a legal independence.
If the banking elite saw Germany as its greatest threat, this can only be because Germany wanted to control its own monetary system.
The nerve! Doesn’t Germany know there can be no exceptions.
Hey Joe, what’s your take on Russian neo-nazi’s??
I’ve always thought it was a strange blend of opposites.
Is it a true “grassroots” Russian movement with Nazi trappings?
Is it planned by the Russian government?
Is it organized by your Nazi International (perhaps with most/all of the members not being aware of such)?
All or some of the above?
Just curious what your opinion is.
Whee!! More Nazi stuff!
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1163/749/Nazi_Expert:_I_Have_Proof_Hitler_Died_In_1960s.html
Just remember the story with the parliament votings in Germany in 1932/33. Hitler is still popular, but he and his Party are moneyless, in debts (read the Diary of Goebbels of the days), all he courld earn – is unstable simple majority, he needed absolute one to take the power to form the government. His opponents from social-democrats had a significant part of voters still they also were in trouble, so were communists as well. The course of the futher historical events and the key to the destiny of the world had appeared in hands of the latters. The Communists Party of Germany belonged to the edifice of Communists International with headquaters in Moscow, Stalin had done a great job by that time to install strict discipline of submission of foreign Communist Parties to all decisions made by him. He declared social-democrats enemies of the communists “and all the progressive mankind”. He warned the German communists from forming a coalition with Hitlers opponents, moreover, the german communists, following the orders and instructions from Moscow, openly supported the hitlerites, organizing jointed manifestations under the common red flag (as it had place in the East Prussia) were the swastika had been twisted in the sickle and the hammer. The result? Hitler gained the absolute majority – to the great satisfaction of Stalin – and imprisoned both the communists and social-democrats.
You all are passing by the obvious fact: commercial interests of certain groups and clans alone could never produce WW II. To play with Hitler, there had to be opportunity for him to became not just a fanatic of Nazism, but a high political fugure, RULING the country. I’m forced to mean the work of Thomas Weingartner for the second time: to have Hitler at the top of the German power was purpose of other great dictator – Stalin, for it was the goal of his life to achieve what Lenin – and Marx/Engels – dreamed about – Communism, occupying the World under the label of The World revolution (with an active help of The Red Army , exporting it by the force) and creating the World Soviet Federation. And Stalin did much to get such fanatical leader, who would provoke a new conflict. The powerful and mass structure of the Communistic International together with the soviet intelligence arranged the major part of the work. And AFTER that Hindenburg was able to appoint him a chancellor, with the sympathies of certain financial circle both in and out of Germany.
Besides, in addition: there are no mentions of anglo-americans participating in establising bolshevism in Russia in 1917, as are those about german efforts to do this, there’s a plentitude of facts, showing clear help by the Keiser to bolsheviks (german soldies in the Red Guard, fighting alonside ones of the Red Army, german financial transfers via European banks and third parties etc.)
Jules Verne not H.G.Wells wrote 20,000 Leagues Under Sea but lets face it Germany has been a shooting gallery since the fall of the Hohenstaufans when the Vatican destroyed the unity of not only Germany but before that the unification of Italy by Rome. Lucky for the Anglo-Americans that Hitler didn’t make it above corporal in the German army in WW1 one wonders what of been the outcome of WW2 if he had and who was Rudoff Hess going to meet in Scotland and why after the war did he rot in prison until death what did he know that like the man in the iron mask that he was never release until dead.
Let me pose a question? If an historical event can’t be examined by historians or those seeking to find out what truly happened, and those doing so can be charged with crimes and imprisoned, shouldn’t that fact alone set off alarms to ask us who, why and how come the cover up? When the most cherished beliefs can be questioned and ridiculed, why should only one historical event be placed out of the reach of historical examination and review, and why?
This is the first of seven parts from which all the rest can be linked to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXKHw0EZrqM
There is no law in the USA against questioning the Holocaust, really you’re smarter than that V. Though there’s still that whole “municipal” problem.
I see that no one has posted evidence here that cyanide gas indeed stains building materials and that those stains endure for 40 years of exposure to Polish winters.
There are laws in many countries in Europe as well as I believe in Canada that make questioning the subject a crime, and if you don’t think that there’s a not so subtle pressure in this country to not address the issue, just try to ask a few honest questions and see what accusations will be leveled against you.
Again I repeat; what historical subject do you know of that the mere questioning of, or investigation into will get you arrested and imprisoned in the so called western world?
Please look over the David Cole video link I posted above and see what you’re conclusion is.
You might also like to watch some of the videos by David Irving(yes, that dirty “#*(!**+”) to get some accurate historical accounting. The truth may not be convenient, nor to our liking, but it still is and our job is to recognize and live with it, or else learn to like living with lies.
I simply don’t think that the evidence for denying the Holocaust happened is on your side. One of the problems with some deniers is that they get caught making up facts (eg there weren’t really very many Jews in Warsaw in the 1930s, or that the documentation in the Berlin Documentation Centre doesn’t exist.)
I can certainly think of perfectly legit questions about what is called really hard science that if asked will destroy your career unless…and yes people have been arrested in this country for such opinions. And yet Holocaust denial is still not illegal in the USA.
Who says I’m denying anything? All I’m asking for is for an open and full investigation both pro and con by anyone without threat of arrest and prison. Is that really asking too much Jay? Anyone who presents evidence contrary to the correct history is labeled a nazi, and antisemite and a holocaust denier. You know better than to pull the canard that it’s established fact.
You might like to check where the six million figure came from and that it was first tried after world war one to justify establishing a jewish state back then. Didn’t know that either? These are facts Jay, as hard as it may be for you to accept them. Go to wikipedia and check the countries where any contrary mention of the holocaust will get you arrested. Let’s hope that historical research in this country won’t one day get you branded as a terrorist.
You might actually try doing some research for yourself and do some investigating instead of trying to nitpick everything that’s said. I keep trying to lead you to water but you still won’t drink, will you?
When did I say “established fact”, that’s you putting words in my comments. Which is a bad position for you to assert. You be quoting someone else, if you’re lucky.
It is not nit picking to ask: “Well, where did the Jews of Warsaw go? (There are phone books) Nor to say the Berlin Document Centre still exists in 2011, and yes it is well documented that Nazis hunted and killed many Jews in the field in The Ukraine and Russia. And to ask, okay then, show me documeneted 40 year old cyanide gas staining of plaster and paint and bricks.” None of these are minor points.
Nor have I ever called you a Nazi, that’s something you’ve made up (and making up is something you’re a bit to quick to accuse others of).
No, you will still not get arrested in the USA for denying the Holocaust, no matter what Wikipedia says. I don’t care what the laws of other countries are, complain about those laws instead of implying that they somehow apply to the US of A.
Jay,
There’s got to be something very wrong with me. No matter what I say, you always twist and turn things around. Let’s do ourselves a big favor and stop commenting over nothing. No one wants to listen to us banter back and forth and it contributes nothing to the discussion at hand.
Take care and have a great life.
….ahhh….the “Nordau QUotation”…. interesting that so FEW people know about it….
For those who missed it.
Civilization is built on a number of ultimate principles…respect for human life, the punishment of crimes against property and persons, the equality of all good citizens before the law…or, in a word justice.
Max Nordau
German author, physician, & Zionist (1849 – 1923)
And should we respect unjust laws: The Patriot Act, The Military Commissions Act, the Nazi antiJewish laws, the laws forbidding marriage between races in the south, Japanese Americans interned during World War Two?
Nordau spent a good bit of effort going on about degenerate art, he sounds a bit like…
John Claiborne:
One of the things when you make such claims (something you can do in the USA) about cynanide gas staining building materials, you have to provide examples of such staining and penetration, not simply claims about what should happen.
In any geopolitical melodrama such as European politics, there are always layers and factions in every operation. The Nazis were financed by Wall Street and the City of London, but they also had their own ideas of how to manipulate the game from their side. I will wager that some enterprising SS folks realized the nature of the game early on and may have even planned the use of the advanced technology to push the agenda of a breakaway civilization.
After all, that is the core subject of some of Wells’ “fiction” like 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea – Nemo was the epitome of the breakaway agenda. Those ideas were certainly present in society at the time, and the sensibilities of the Victorian age certainly informed the minds of most of those who created the messes of the 20th century.
Had the wunderwaffe programs run a few months longer or been started a bit earlier, the outcome would have been very, very different. It was certainly much closer than we realize, as the research of JPF and others has shown.
I’m sure some of their setbacks in this area had some “special help” from Bankster agents, since the “high cabal” had its own ideas about how it wanted things to go.
I think that the levels of disclosure about these things will increase as children of now dead Nazis and others bring out information to support their own various agendas, and people like JPF, Witkowski, Cook, et al, continue to pull back the veil.
Truman said quite a few intelligent things, but the quote I keep returning to over and over again is the one about “the only new thing is the history you don’t know.” One wonders how much of this he knew but did not discuss.
Whether the Nazis gassed people or shot them, there is still plenty of evidence that they killed a huge number of people, and NOT just Jews. I am reading John Loftus’ book, America’s Nazi Secret, and our government had tons of evidence of massive war crimes which was simply ignored or “erased,” with some very sinister results. Many people the world over agreed with the Nazis. Their attitude was a sign of the times and Victorian influence, and the British have their fair share of prejudice and class war.
The lack of gas evidence doesn’t begin to negate all the other evidence by a long shot. The notion that the buna plant at Auschwitz never produced any buna doesn’t mean it wasn’t there at all, it means something else was going on. And maybe the gas story was just a cover for radiation poisoning from uranium processing…….killing your workers is a good way to cover up the actual work, like the slaughter of the Bell technicians.
Again, one thing is certain – no one is telling us the whole truth.
The physical world of Earth is so ridiculous can I get an Amen?
Reply if you agree…
Thanks for your comment. I didn’t know that. My question is what about the photographic evidence of starved inmates? And missing ‘millions’.
This is a bit off topic, but I ran into this link:
http://planetsave.com/2011/08/28/who-runs-the-world-network-analysis-reveals-super-entity-of-global-corporate-control/
…which is an excellent, complete analysis of global corporate control with flow charts and full list of leading corporations involved with the web of corporate control etc.
Yes I am familiar with it
I essentially agree with the premise that the Anglo-American (i.e. Masonic) elites wanted to destroy the German Reich. It is a complex picture to be sure. An interesting addition to the debate: On 5th January 1935 there was a “masonic declaration of war made against Germany.” B’nai B’rith president Alfred Cohen declared war on Germany in the name of all Jews, Freemasons and Christians. A similar declaration was made also 24th March 1933 in the Daily Express. Of course such a declaration helped the Zionist cause by forcing Germany to send Jews to Palestine…a primary goal of the Rothschild/Zionist cause.
So behind a complex chess game I see secret societies manipulating countires and people into certain positions. One such primary goal was a Zionist agenda to force European Jews into the “safe haven” of Palestine – I suspect was in fact THE primary goal – which in turns sets up Israel for her later historical purpose, not to mention a western foothold in oil infested lands… Then came the other Masonic creation – the United Nations, a first step in global governance and control. An then of course bringing Germany to her knees. Then there is the magical working of mass human sacrifice. We also have the failed Russian takeover by the Anglo-US elites with their communist revolutionaries, the Reich being a useful jackboot to kick Soviet butt. And let’s not get started on who made shed loads of money out of this carnage. A miscalculation indeed with the Nazis and their survivability …or was it? Talk about killing many birds with one stone!
There is a great deal more that could be said…like the “Western Priesthood” which is a continuation of the Egyptian/Babyoonian Priesthood… a Priesthood that could very well be both very hidden and simultaneously very in our faces…
Except that in the 1920s and 1930s, the west (Britian) already controlled much middle eastern oil.
Clicking this link:
England Instigated World War Two
goes to an email sign-in.
These past few years I have begun to suspect that England (Britain), the Royal House and their bed-fellows anyway, was the real political power behind World War II and used Germany as a sock puppet. I cannot give much credence to nor the benefit of the doubt to England since England installed German princes as English monarchs and submitted to them. [See “War of the Windsors” by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince.]
Then there’s that nagging thing about Rudolph Hess and his parachute. And Winston Churchill said something like “This world is ruled by a high cabal” and even took part in the conspiracy that sank the Lusitania. Not to mention why the Germans didn’t blast the British into the beach at Dunkirk.
As far as the Looters (Why does everyone keep calling them “elite?”) making mistakes, it stands to reason that when too much reliance on the Primacy of Consciousness is employed as the basis of one’s thought, i.e. when one thinks that one can ignore truth and/or sensory input with impunity, in other words when one hallucinates willfully, then reality and its attendant law of cause and effect will turn its back and flee into the night.
Russia ending up with Eastern Europe at the end of WW II did NOT significantly alter the Looters’ plans. Where I place my hope, what little hope I have left, is in the fact that the internet allows huge amounts of information to be available to a considerable percentage of humanity…
…AND…
Per my posted quote from Carl Sagan on 9/11, the mesh of society between technological necessity and widespread (prideful) ignorance is stretched pretty thin. I doubt seriously that a bunch of arrogant delusionally-detached-from-reality Looters can control things when T(heir)SHTF.
Another geopolitical “oops.”
I hate it when that happens! 🙂
S in SF ^i^
Yes Joe…as somebody , was it Deep Throat, said in the Watergate footage in that parking lot…’you see, these aren’t very bright guys’ lol
He turned out to be high up at the Feebie emporium,with that cross dresser John Edgar;s name upon it. Sullivan wasn’t it?
But anyhoo…that remark goes for the Round Table brigade also, if what you are saying about the origins of the supposed ‘Bolshevik ‘ state and the Nazi one, is true. And I for one certainly think you are on the money there, alrighty.
Yes, it reminds me of a friend who lived through the war and what she said to me of suspecting that the reason it took so long for the Allied invasion to get its flangy out and run up those Normandy beachheads etc…was because they were waiting for the Nazi’s to do their dirty work for them and flatten the Reds.
but…then i start pondering upon Hitler’s sudden right turn to the south when he was within a few miles and a slight push of taking Moscow that August, was it?
In fact, it was trying to google up info about these matters, that brought me to the War studies of your good self sir.
So then…
Yep, rotation, rotation, rotation, even!
In short, I observe yet again, that even the best laid plans of the self elected elite, for us all may go rather unexpectedly, to them, wrong!
does this offer some weird form of hope ?
The oil was to the south.
Have a read of Antony Beevor’s ‘Stalingrad’. You will get a good idea of the carnage and ‘thinking’ from both sides.
Link doesnt work…or at least prompts to create a login…am I missing something?
I understand the idea and it makes sense. But how do you account for reports that said Russia was about to invade Poland and Europe and had amassed over 20,000 tanks according to Jim Marrs? As they were about to invade Poland and Europe. Now Hilter steps in and invades Russia and all most completely desimented them and would have taken Moscow. But if Hilter would have taken the advise of his generals WW 11 might have been a different out come. We might be all speaking German!
What’s wrong with speakin German?