DISSASTISFACTION: THE LATEST POLLS, AND SOME THOUGHTS
I was sent the following link by one of the readers of this website, and the results of the polls astound even me, bi-partisan detester of Dummycrooks and Republithugs that I am:
Dissatisfaction With Government Reaches All Time High
We may opine endlessly on the source of the dissatisfaction, but one thing stands out, and that is the clear bi-partisan disgust at the government, and its now all-too-palpable habit of completely ignoring the public good, to serve the special corporate interests that have bought it off. There are two things that the polls reproduced on Alex Jones' website do not seem to touch: (1) the Republithug presidential candidates' race, and (2) the historical period into which we are entering.
With respect to the Republithug race, we're seeing, I think, an interesting phenomenon at work, in that the field seems to be constantly shifting among leaders, indicating, perhaps, that even among the political right in the USA, there is no real satisfaction with any candidate. Yet too, Herman Cain's move into sudden prominence in recent weeks is another indicator that people are fed up with "politics" as usual, the politics represented by the Mitt Romneys and Rick Perrys of the field. Yet, the support even for Cain appears to be very soft, and the long race is not even begun in earnest.
But there is a deeper phenomenon at work, and we may, with due respect to Hegel, perhaps view these as the forces of "history", or Geistesgeschichte, namely, that we appear to be entering one of those five-hundred year changes, when technology itself is so rapidly transforming our institutions and society that previous paradigms are breaking down. I think this, too, is a factor at work. The old models of social prediction are breaking down, and nowhere is this more in evidence than in the inability of polls and pollsters to make accurate assessments of what is really happening in the mind of the electorate.
This is reflected in the inability either of the political left or political right to make sense - within their old formulae - of the mood of the electorate. On the one hand, the left is correct: people are fed up with the runaway power of large brokerage houses, credit ratings agencies, and banks, and with the fact that the perpetrators of the financial meltdown not only got away scot-free, but are actually, and successfully, advocating more of the very same policies that led to the mess to fix the mess: just look at Europe. But on the other hand, the right is correct as well: introducing a massive "health" care bill has indeed stifled the real economic engines: small businesses, and borrowing more money from the banksters to "stimulate" the economy is simply more of the same nonsense that led to the mess. The Left is right: deregulated corporations and banks have shipped industry and manufacturing overseas, and led to bundles of fraudulent credit default swaps. The Right is right: dismantling capitalism won't fix the problem.
In short, what is missing in the American debate on the "fair and balanced" networks are the voices of the center, not the left, or the right. Americans are not angry at corporations, or even capitalism. They are angry at the tight, cartelism of the banks and brokerage houses that have given us this mess.
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“we appear to be entering one of those five-hundred year changes, when technology itself is so rapidly transforming our institutions and society that previous paradigms are breaking down”
Technobuffs such as Kurzweil, Freitas, Drexler, etc, are predicting, in essence, “wishing machines”, in the not too distant future.
I for one do not like Capitalism, nor Communism. They both rob and cheat the populace.
We have to move beyond both of these systems of exploitation and limitation.
What is the alternative?
Capitalism creates the machinery for it’s own destruction, “wishing machines.”
And what about the politicians… well just wish the shitbuckets away, preferably into the center of the sun.
But can we as a species in our present apedom use “wishing machines” wisely?
The Krell couldn’t.
Hmm, some guy who died in diapers in a madhouse wrote a book on transendence….
… and now you know the rest of the story….
My fantasy is the 1% ters can save money by doing away with elections and subsitute a conclave where the richist elect a leader like the Roman Catholic Church or put the Imperial Republic up for sale openly like was done by the Pretorian Guard did after assassination of Commodus at least it who be honest after all we are their serf,slaves anyway and stop this expense circus once and for all.
Greg parent —
That you for the prod!
Every-time I try to understand Baudrillard’s concept of the HYPERrEAL I get lost in a maze or some LABYRINTH.
I think it’s an intentional ploy by Baudrillard = French Intellectual Theorists have a certain way of playing tricks/games on us dummy Drag-matic – I mean Pragmatic Americans.
Well, I aint falling for it! He valorizes Semiotics and I beleive that is a good thing but….?
You hit the nail on MY HEAD for I have been thinking along those lines myself>
USING LANGUAGE AND IDEAL(OGY) TO OBSCURE MEANING. That’s IT!
I am a very old-fashion, naive person. I still believe “LANGUAGE” was meant to communicate honesty or the truth. According to Paul Von Ward the alphabet was created by the Annunaki to make us more intelligent slaves. Before that did we communicate telepathically? This Mythological reasoning mixed in or combined with science(ful) rationalizing really makes my head feel like a SPINNING TOP.
In a way I now can comprehend a little bit of the story or yarn Franz Kafka wrote about Children Playing with Tops!
To be more honest — All I can make of it > SIMULATION is the Idea of the ‘LOSS OF REFERENT! Some people may refer the word CENTER and that is OK too. All this God is dead busines is really saying God was the orignial Reference/Referent hence the LAWS STAND. Without a referent — what are LAWS?
Heck,I am the emperor of the world and I might as well create my own laws for that matter. ( then someone comes along and gives me a swift kick in the behind. Ha, ha, ha! Emperor’s don’t get kicked in the behind. At least not by us mortals!)
In the words of Yeats:
“Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.”
Or are we just witnessing the “precession of simulacra”…?
“Simulacra and Simulation” breaks the sign-order into 4 stages:
The first stage is a faithful image/copy, where we believe, and it may even be correct that, a sign is a “reflection of a profound reality” (pg 6), this is a good appearance, in what Baudrillard called “the sacramental order”.
The second stage is perversion of reality, this is where we believe the sign to be an unfaithful copy, which “masks and denatures” reality as an “evil appearance – it is of the order of maleficence”. Here, signs and images do not faithfully show us reality, but can hint at the existence of something real which the sign itself is incapable of encapsulating.
The third stage masks the absence of a profound reality, where the simulacrum pretends to be a faithful copy, but it is a copy with no original. Signs and images claim to represent something real, but no representation is taking place and arbitrary images are merely suggested as things which they have no relationship to. Baudrillard calls this the “order of sorcery”.
The fourth stage is pure simulation, in which the simulacrum has no relationship to any reality whatsoever. Here, signs merely reflect other signs and any claim to reality on the part of images or signs is only of the order of other such claims.
Simulacra and Simulation identifies three types of simulacra and identifies each with a historical period:
First order, associated with the premodern period, where the image is clearly an artificial placemarker for the real item. The uniqueness of objects and situations marks them as irreproducibly real and signification obviously gropes towards this reality.
Second order, associated with the modernity of the Industrial Revolution, where distinctions between image and reality break down due to the proliferation of mass-reproducible copies of items, turning them into commodities. The commodity’s ability to imitate reality threatens to replace the original version, especially when the individual person is only concerned with consuming for some utility a functional facsimile.
Third order, associated with the postmodernity, where the simulacrum precedes the original and the distinction between reality and representation vanishes. There is only the simulacrum, and originality becomes a totally meaningless concept.
Baudrillard theorizes that the lack of distinctions between reality and simulacra originates in several phenomena:
Contemporary media including television, film, print and the Internet, which are responsible for blurring the line between goods that are needed and goods for which a need is created by commercial images.
Exchange value, in which the value of goods is based on money rather than usefulness.
Multinational capitalism, which separates produced goods from the plants, minerals and other original materials and the processes used to create them.
Urbanization, which separates humans from the natural world.
Language and ideology, in which language is used to obscure rather than reveal reality when used by dominant, politically powerful groups.
Where is the CENTER.
I am looking at the concept of NON-LOCALITY in Quantum Psychics.
Where is the CENTER if there is no such thing (besides it all being in our heads) as SPACE/TIME.
The Snake eating it’s tail? Is that a center?
I heard the Liberals of today are the new Left and the Right of yesterday is now the Center(?) and the Nazis are the new right. (if you are inclined to give that kind of reasoning any merit?)
All I can think of is a song ” I cant get NO-SATISFACTION because my SHIRT isn’t as WHITE as yours! —— Ha, ha! (That rock group used to be good punks but now their just part of the ESTABLISHMENT!)
Are you following this latest BS about a patsy that was supposedly working for Iran, attempting a hit on a Saudi diplomate? A green light has been given by our government for Israel to strike Iran at anytime. Bunker buster bombs have been delivered to Israel….
Speaking of Jones, he was all over this today, or his stand-in was as Jones is on vacation. Dr. Watson, Jones’ UK affiliated, predicted Israel will attack Iran sometime in the next two weeks.
Alex Jones has been going after Herman Cain hammer and tong and was instrumental in bringing out Perry’s background that is pulling him down. Jones was hammering about Perry’s stance on Gardisel long before Michelle Bachman and he covers all the GOP debates and polls.
Jones is consistant on Capiltalism (true free market) is not the problem, which we have not had since 1913, but federal reserve, wallstreet and corporations.
Maybe you missed this. He does cover other issues….
Jones is at the forefront on many things. Despite any shortcomings he may have he IS “the tip of the spear.”
BTW I hope all here know of Mr Cain’s ex Employer? He was the Chairman of the KC Federal Reserve and he says his hero was Alan Greenspan. Also says he has 2 candidates “waiting in thw wings” to take over the Fed Reserve Chairman job when he gets elected. So how long has the fed been grooming this guy? lol And the 999 thing is starting to sound like a damm Pizza comercial I remember from awhile back in time. And 999 flipped is .666..just sayin lol
Have any of you guys actually taken the time to listen to the words of Ron Paul because all of the things I see complained about on this page could be very well taken care of with his policies. It starts with ending the unconstitutional wars and ending the federal reserve that creates the money out of thin air to support them. Yes there are other crooks out there that were created under this cronnie capitalist system we have lived under since the federal reserve was created, but lets get the fiatt MONEY PUSHERS before we go after the MONEY ADDICTS. And that sytem may be controlled by the Rothchild’s and like kind. But if we cut off their MONEY DISTRIBUTION NETWORK , they can be taken down. Ron Paul may be our last chance.
Ron Paul, though not perfect, is the man I would choose for the job. However, i doubt very seriously that they will allow him to be on the ballot.
I caution everyone that the Looters may just set off a nuke in an American city sometime before the election in order to cancel the 2012 election altogether.
Joseph, Polls are for more control of the populous.
They don’t want to know how they stand.
THEY (Elite World Controllers$$$$$$) want YOU
to know where you stand (they are rigged for that by
carefully phrasing the questions) so that by what shows
up, THEY can change YOUR mind.
And we don’t have a 2 party system. The GOALS of each is
THE SAME !
The so-called political parties simply switch
around to grab you in either case.
R: goes to Fascistic ways and
D: goes to socialistic ways
so THEY can cover everyone by
simply approaching from what SEEMS
the other direction.
Anyway, if you are still voting, you still don’t get it.
THEY control the entire process and put up both candidates
for the illusion of choice.
Kennedy was the last real president.
There is NO power in the office anymore.
They do what they are told, or they become
Johnson got what he wanted, but did what THEY wanted.
a central bank be government owned and in charge
As is often the case, the truth lies somewhere in the middle but the elites do want us to be at each others throats.
Other countries do not have a FOR PROFIT insurance care sysytem that is reactionary instead of preventative. Other countries have ‘free haeath care’ built into the system so that it is NOT a direct cost of doing business. There is NO medical bankrupcies.
The open system where a country issues its own public money has a virtual 100% employment status quo. BUT a PRIVATE Monoplized INTERNATIONAL Banking Cartel that issues the country’s currency controls the verticle & the horizontal. Unemployment is factored in to LOWER wages. It is CONTROLLED. Both Parties are subsequently CONTROLLED. Polls are CONTROLLED.
What is need is to break the shackles of privitized CONTROL through beaking the MOnoploy of Private Centalized Banking issueing their respective country’s currencies WORLDWIDE!
We need the people in CONTROL.
NOT the Private few.
The money is the key.
Whoever issues the currency has the power.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
The “old models of social prediction are” right on the money. Society is breaking down PRECISELY as planned and in just the right way and at just the right time for the Looters to maximize their profits while diminishing our freedoms and at just the right rate for the proper amount of death and destruction to maximize even more medical profits while reducing the population.
This is especially evident in polls making accurate assessments of what is happening in the mind of the electorate, the herd in the pasture, as they are behaving exactly as the Looter’s simplex plans to manipulate them are intended.
You pretending that “the political left” is different from “the political right” is deplorable, Dr. Farrell. Given your ability to differentiate underlying fundamental principles as evidenced by your published writings, you are easily able to see that the “right” wants to control the mind and let the body freewheel while the “left” wants to control the body and let the mind freewheel. The underlying principle of both is control; control of everything since a body without a mind is a corpse and a mind without a body is a ghost.
You know good and well, Dr. Farrell that it’s all just one big puppet show with the puppet master holding up a donkey puppet on one hand (And which hand is THAT?) and an elephant puppet on the other hand (Does the process of elimination even work here anymore?) and both puppets speak from this same puppet master’s mouth, albeit out of one side or the other.
Your steadfast refusal to acknowledge that the whole political farce, the one that comes to you on your television set each day, the one that you refer to in this post, is nothing more than a stage show. There is no left and there is no right. And since there is no left and no right, then there can certainly be no center.
But what can I expect from an Okie?
I offer my apology about the Okie remark.
I had a whole paragraph in front of that but I deleted it as I decided that it was inappropriate. When I copied and pasted my comment, I saw that the last sentence, the punch line so to speak, was there without the joke. I was flabbergasted. I decided I could always come back later in the day and apologize; which I am doing now.
Its not about corps buy politics politics…its far simpler than that…stop hacking at the tree limbs and rip the roots up already…the problem is FRACTIONAL RESERVE CENTRAL BANKING…end of story.
Allowing a private cartel of the few to control the unit of exchange is beyond ridiculous…I mean beyond folks…I can still remember back to my mid level econ courses arguing with professors over the supposed independence that was craeted by this and destroying that premise with simple questions that were ultiamtely side stepped and we’re back on page 210…
Sales are up 2%…ya!!!! Inflation is 3%…oh damn. So sales VOLUME is actually down…stock price rises…