NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM OCT 20 2011 PART TWO
October 20, 2011 / /
Joseph adds additional comments on the videos of the death of Mohamar Qaddafi
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Reality sets in–transitional Libyan leader declares Shariah Law:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/libyan-transitional-leader-shariah-will-be-basic-source-of-all-law/
Is Gaddafi REALLy dead?
sjlendman.blogspot.com/
Saturday, October 22, 2011
Doubts About Gaddafi’s Reported Assassination.
http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/
I don’t have a TV because I don’t have a TV..I have a radio–I listen to NPR AND CSPAN. Last night I got the news that this man had been killed and in that an admitted inability to know exactly how that happened outside of the broad outline of the event its self. This morning I woke up to pictures of a dead guy with a hole in his left temple and the appearance of lacerations on the back of his head. I was told that he had been in a convoy that had been attacked by NATO (drone?}–a number of cars were attempting to escape the town the rebels were fast becoming in charge of. Mr. MQ was injured at some time during the attack or shortly after as he fled to a ditch and hid there. He was discovered by troops who were in the area? I don’t get that part–with a camera? I don’t get that either—anyway, and there then insued a struggle as the rebels pulled this guy out of hiding, tossed him around a bit–called an ambulance? —loaded his not quite dead body in it, where upon he bled to death as they drove across the desert to a Hospital?—On face value, I would say that body looked like mr. MQ. — We look different when we are dead–that is in case you have not seen a dead body before.
Was this show and tell? Sure it was, and for good reason by my estimation. Is this going to whip up ‘”BLOOD LUST” In the viewing public world wide? I don’t think so. Should we, the world, have been treated to a long, protracted exposure of Mr. MQ as he – 1]healed. 2]was jailed. 3]was brought up on charges. 4]was tried on charges. 5]was executed for crimes against humanity?—No, I don’t think so. The public is so flooded with random violence now, we have long since become rational enough to get it. It takes a lot of energy to get whipped into Blood Lust—Mentally ill people trigger there for just any old thing because they are built with imbeded emotional triggers for rage..The average folk are just watching…most are seldom shocked any more..We have seen a lot of dead innocents over this past decade or so…enough victims of bombs and 9/11 fly intos that one little x-goat herder is peanuts. We saw that guy, what was his name? in IRAQ -you know the one – hung on camera..it was a bit of a shock but I got over it in a couple of weeks…well, no, now that I think about it, it still bothers me..I am not big on captial punishment…Which is exactly my point..the emotional trauma of watching all of that parade take place..no matter the insanity of the man who was doomed, seared my soul.
Short and sweet–It is over. Now we have the long struggles to watch amid the many questions resident within them. It is a very middle east thing..They are just doing what the have always done…Just when folks are getting complacent, bammm another one down…We saw JFK slain on a gentle weather day in Texas..We saw Regan shot on a blustry day in the big NYC. We saw Pearl Harbor, the blood letting both east and west during the ground war of WW2, the nuclear holocaust in Japan, the assasination and torture of sisters and brothers, mothers and fathers world wide…This one man had become a waste of skin…there are others waiting in the wings…Seems to me, we should just settle back with our bag of popcorn and let it roll..We have to get this house cleaning done..There are way too many nukes out there, just waiting to be used.
Drones work and so do AK47 single shots to the head…Let it roll…
i saw a headline on RT that said “Guts, No Glory. Definately NO Glory. As for Hillary Clintion, I think she had to act happy. She answers to somebody. She’s not really the smartest woman in the world.
Hillary Clinton, US Secretary of State expressed it very clearly:
‘We came, we saw, he died,’ and then started laughing.
I can’t say that Hillary Clinton hold ‘a smoking gun’,
since US english is not my first language.
But is this the mental enviroment in US government ?
So what is next, domestic USA ?
I agree that everybody should have ‘a day in court’ berfore any judgment.
While the mainstream media is jubilant over Libya in particular and the Arab Spring in general. what is happening to Christians in those areas is getting little attention:
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=241236
Perhaps it was a doppelganger…
btw – I noticed your bookshelf with “Between Two Ages” by Zbig…
good reading – thanks JPF
I appreciate your sharing your view on this public display of violence as if it is something to be elated over. I also have become increasingly concerned by the airing of videos showing the summary execution of “public enemies”. I believe that rejoicing in such violence is to simply lower ourselves to the same level as those that we detested for their acts.
I am not surprised that this kind of brutality in the media is being escalated.
Traumas are time locks. They lock down your energy and consciousness. The locks occur physically (your body remembers traumas of any type the best of all) emotionally and mentally. If you have enough of these in your system you become very controllable because it’s extremely easy to reignite the trauma, thus forcing you to spend energy and consciousness looping through it until you can move forward again. It puts psychic blinders on one, making it harder to see the manipulation that is so blatantly going on.
Witness all the replays of the twin towers being destroyed. Every single time that image is used, everyone who sees it is forced into the huge, world-wide time lock it created. It’s getting to the point that even seeing the symbol of the flag displayed automatically links with 9/11 and everyone is frozen for a while, looping the trauma. Probably just the mention of “9/11” will start it off for most people.
I stopped watching television and limiting as much as I could any exposure to media back in the 80’s. As a result, I can see a lot of this stuff in nearly any venue you care to mention. It’s easy to spot if you’re not being pickled in it. I actually witnessed a film at a museum, purportedly about the history of Mount Vesuvius, of all things, co-opted into a “patriotic” screed. Somehow, the narrative segued off to the American military personnel stationed there and bingo, trauma locks right and left. I was incensed (after all, I paid my money to see something wonderful about Mount Vesuvius, not another propaganda film) and fired off an e-mail to the museum, to which the clueless customer service person replied that “no one else has ever mentioned that!”
I think the escalation of the horrific brutality being paraded in front of us, much like, as Joseph says, Roman death entertainment because some of us are seeing behind the curtain. I think it’s getting harder and harder to get the same results unless the level of stimulation is increased. I think this is a ray of light in an increasingly dark theater.
Decline of the West: Blood-lust in the streets of Libya suffices for justice
By 21st Century Wire
By Patrick Henningsen
http://21stcenturywire.com/2011/10/21/decline-of-the-west-blood-lust-in-the-streets-of-libya-suffices-for-justice/
Is Gaddafi really dead? I don’t know. However, there IS the possibility that his death was staged. Recall how Osama bin-Dead-Along-Time’s death was staged. But there were NO live pictures of that event, and I still haven’t seen a video of his execution.
Recall also the live videos of 9/11. The WTCs were brought down (poofed) by a molecular disruptor weapon. The entire media establishment went along with the cover-up, Peter Jennings even remarking how the WTCs “looked like controlled demolition” to help plant that in the minds of any naysayers.
Numerous videos of the events at the WTCs on 9/11 were aired but this proves NOTHING. Besides, many of these have defects in them, most notably the Naudet film.
Thanks to Judy Wood’s suggestion, I am coming around to the possibility that there were NO PLANES WHATSOEVER. Just think about it. Videos aside, there should have been thousands and thousand of witnesses to the planes hitting the buildings and their stories should have proliferated the television news and the internet in the 10+ years since that tragic day. Yet these are noticeably absent from the historical record.
Now back to Gaddafi: The first accounts said that Gaddafi had “been captured.” It was only later accounts that said Gaddafi had been executed. And the video clips that I have seen, though grizzly, are NOT convincing. Compare this with initial accounts of the Oklahoma City bombing in which the Oklahoma City Bomb Squad was said to have found bombs in the building and even disarmed one. Yet this information, after being confirmed by Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating, disappeared.
I remain skeptical, but who knows?
“Libyan officials said Moammar Gadhafi, who died of injuries he got in a clash with National Transitional Council troops, will be given a secret burial.
NTC officials said they are considering burying the longtime Libyan leader at sea to prevent his grave from becoming a shrine, the BBC reported Friday.”
Here we go again.
SOURCE:
http://www.infowars.com/like-osama-gaddafi-to-be-buried-at-sea/
“a NEW DAY for Libya..” where have we seen this symbolism used before? Interestingly, the word “day” happens to be the 10th word of this yahoo article. Ten comes from Aten or Aton, one of the Sun gods of ancient Egypt now well known through Tsarions work. The letter A itself of Aton is a pyramid with capstone.
http://news.yahoo.com/foreign-governments-call-building-libya-075927367.html
they also pulled the “order out of chaos” card in the first sentence of the article as well. ORDO AB CHAO
http://www.masonicdictionary.com/ordoabchao.html
cult of aton
http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/irishoriginsexcerpts/oldpage-irishorigins1.html
dawn of a new day by jordan maxwell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07REkvATHb8
4 star general talks the truth of iraq invasion and future middle east conflicts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08CnT4TtZ_
How convient that Gaddafi been Lumumbalize if that was the real Gaddafi I wonder how many embrassing secrets he toke to the grave with him I hope he antispated this and stash away all the embrassing documents he had so he can have his revenge from the grave to be releast after his death. I agree his assasination was telvise but not Osama Bin Laden’s his tapes has never been shown wonder why. I think that they knew to much to be left alive as they say dead men tell no tales and also how covient the SEAL team that killed Bin Laden died in a helocopter crash no witness to embrass our masters in the future.
Hello Joseph,
Yesterday, when I heard the news, I went to your site first to see if you had posted a video about the event.
Today, I when I was looking over other news sites, I saw those videos of which you speak.
I was sickened and I couldn’t finish watching them either.
This evening, I decided to see if you had posted anything else about the event, and I was surprised to see
a Part 2.
I felt very touched by what you said.
You expressed my feelings exactly.
Thank you so much for that.
I completely agree with your point of view — I feel deep within me that what you say is true.
We have to tread very carefully now, because it’s getting vicious.
All the more reason to be the most humane and just that we can be.
Warm regards.
excerpt from a report by Wayne Madsen, investigative journalist
August 18-19, 2009 — Release of Libyan agent puts spotlight on actual perpetrators of PanAm 103 bombing
1. The imminent release from a Scottish jail of convicted PanAm 103 bomber, Libyan intelligence agent Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, has, once again, focused attention on the actual perpetrators of the December 21, 1988, bombing of the PanAm Boeing 747 enroute from London Heathrow to New York that killed 271 people on the plane and in the Scottish town of Lockerbie. Scottish authorities have signaled that they plan to release Megrahi for humanitarian reasons because he has prostate cancer and wishes to spend his last days with his family in Libya.
Megrahi, the security chief for Libyan Arab Airlines, and another Libyan agent, Al-Amin Khalifa Fahima, were indicted for the bombing but Fahima was found not guilty. There is ample evidence that Megrahi was also not guilty but became caught up in a high-stakes intelligence game between the CIA, Britain’s MI-6, Iran, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command, Israel’s Mossad, and Libya. There has always been a beliefe that the CIA planted evidence against Megrahi in order to protect U.S. intelligence operations in the Middle East.
One more piece of symbolism to consider.
The NWO is built around commerce; the commercial code, admiralty and maritime “law”. How fitting that both bin Laden(symbolically) and now Gaddafhy are being “buried” at sea. How fitting since both threatened the global system of banking and commerce to the point where one was used as the poster child to bring a police state to america, while the other one was planning to break the city of london bankers by selling oil denominated in gold and not digits.
I also share your deep felt thoughts on the matter. Look for China to respond in a few weeks. Power outages??
Libya & Gaddafi – The Truth you are not supposed to know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XorKTwkFPDU&feature=player_embedded
I think at least 95% of the Libyan public would consider it divine intervention if they could get their old government back. Despite Khadaffi’s involvement with many dubious and violent groups around the world, the reality at home was simply excellent. Their country was basically the gutter of the world when the colonels took over, with an incredibly low level of everything, and you can be sure 95% of the money went to the cronies around their ridiculously decadent King Idris. Last year, one could argue that life was better than most of Europe. Their system of direct democracy and socialism for basic needs is great. They had many problems, though half of those were built up and funded by the West, simply to prevent the uninformed in the West from knowing that there are any alternatives to a New World Order of cartel capitalism dictatorship. Also, do people really think Washington, Franklin, and the others of that time didn’t make lots of deals with dubious characters? They had no choice.
Ask yourself why there has been so little info about the Libyan system over the last few decades. It’s the same reason the media don’t talk about Iceland. They don’t want anyone to get any ideas, at least not good ones. We have to accept that debt slavery and bankers and corporations taking all a country’s resources for free is God’s Will. And we get the bill for a cleanup, if they happen to make a small mistake, such as when they ruined the Gulf of Mexico.
Mark Koernke is one of the people who, like myself, thinks that Muammar Gaddafi is alive and well and living in exile. This morning on his show, October 21, 2011, Koernke, like he did yesterday, pointed out how many people recall Idi Amin being killed in Uganda and yet Amin lived in exile in Saudi Arabia until his death(?) in 2003.
From there, Koernke went on to mention how a number of Zen Buddhists set themselves on fire in Vietnam in the 1960s to protest the American occupation there. One question that no one ever asked was, “Are those REALLY Buddhist monks?”
Another good question is: “Is there another historical precedent of Buddhist monks setting themselves on fire in protest of foreign occupation?” What about the Japanese occupation of China during WWII? Is there any record of a Buddhist monk setting himself on fire to protest the bloody and brutal Japanese occupation of China?
The fact of the matter is that the entire paradigm of Buddhist monks setting themselves on fire to protest the Vietnam war was conjured up in somebody’s mind to have a psychological effect on the evening news. It is entirely possible that those who set themselves on fire during the Vietnam war were simply semi-retarded drugged out and otherwise “mind controlled” Vietnamese.
Back to Gaddafi:
It is very possible that the entire event was staged. This is impossible? What ONE thing makes staging Gadaffi’s death “impossible?” It is the number of videos of the event that were shot/produced, all those “cellphones” and all, which are supposed to take this out of the realm of the possible. I submit that it is NOT difficult to get a dozen or so (a military ‘squad’ unit) to act out such an event and that this is exactly what happened.
“Almost everything you have ever been told is a lie.”
—William Cooper
Well, Joseph, I’ll chime in.
Although it is very sad indeed, I’m glad that you feel that way.
Why?
Because it shows that you still have a healthy psyche.
I appreciate that and I care.
A word on the Criminals In Action:
Truman regretted his part in the creation of the CIA
even before he left office, as it quickly assumed a
mandate of its own and fell right out of US control.
This was intended, but not by Truman.
To tie this together, in case there are those that still
sleepwalk in the dark…..
It was the US/CIA that put all those nasty, ruthless
dictators in place during the Cold War.
It has been the CIA taking them out for various reasons.
Those like Chavez have actually seen some light,
but after Robertson’s rant, ‘we’ could NOT do what he suggested.
How would THAT look/seem to those discerning some truth?
Oh, yes, ‘we’ would have if the ‘Christian’ had kept his mouth shut.
In fact, plans were likely already made and Robertson got ‘it’ from all
sides on that one.!
Going over these comments again I overlooked the Truman mention the first time.
It always seemed odd to me? Everybody is SAD after the fact of their DIRTY DEED or their part in a DUTY deed.
Is there anyone out there who said NO or refused to co-operate in the EVIL that men do?
Sure there is but seldom do we hear from them for they are cast out into the margins if they ever got near the center in the first place! ( someone with true CHARACTER would see it coming and get the hell out of there. Only a very few can tackle the MAN and they usually end up – you know the SHAFT! )
I recall the author of ‘The Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” ( it was an expose) go back to the Country he helped corrupt and also to give advice. Some of the Crowd BOOED HIM. You had nothing but LIES TO SAY then what makes us think you HAVE NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH to say today.
That dam MEDIA Time. It seems everyone has to co-opt themselves in order to get media time. Heck – even genuine terrorist and not the “false flag” type CRAVE the MEDIA!
What’s wrong with this Picture?
Cant RUMORS CIRCULATE FAST ENOUGH THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE! Hay, did you hear that the other day —Someone actually spoke the truth! ( my 1st wife was old fashioned polish and boy they know how to network. i worked at a job with them. I only lived about ten minutes away or a ten minute work BUT when I got through my home-door my wife would be asking me about WHAT HAPPENED at work even before I could say one word. HOW IN THE WORLD DID SHE FIND OUT SO FAST! (this was before cell-phone?)
I know how — People who lived or had parents who lived in Eastern Europe or Russia had their own ways of COMMUNICATING VITAL INFORMATION without YOU KNOW WHO finding out about it right away. Without some of this CURSED TECHNOLOGY it could happen. I LIKE TO BELIEVE it could still happen!
(Instead of all this Mystifying, fog-laden, DENSE, flattening-flattery,, even(ing) leveling, upside-down, orwellian doublespeak, trashy non-meaning, endless nonsense that passes itself off as communication and LANGUAGE!
They should have been raised Roman Catholic. After receiving the sacrament of Penance the priest would say — go and sin no more. If we came back the very next week with the “same sins of a child” that was an indication we didn’t have genuine contrition.
I learned something from that. I learned Prevention is the only way. Usually after the FACT too late? Good responsible EXISTENTIALISM the old-fashioned way.
I once told off HOWARD ZINN the historical revisionist about 10 yrs. ago. He confessed he dropped bombs on Dresdon, Germany during the war which makes him a mass-murderer. But, he realized his errors and paid his dues fighting down there in the heart of the south. I admire him for that but I still let him have it — I was a bit tipsy at the time if you know what I mean? I just didn’t come to grips with myself = someone who did say NO and paid a heavy price for it! Now I know or understand ONE does what’s right even if ONE doesn’t get any AIR-TIME. (this air time baloney is just another form of EGOTISM) Like the TAO suggests about true leaders – just stand in back of everything and let nature take it’s own course.
One more thing — I wonder if Jack Nickelson’s fit where he supposedly smashed someone’s front windsheld was genuine or just a STUNT to enhance his ratings. DAM —- it gets to be so bad at this heurmeneutics of suspicion that maybe we CANT EVEN TRUST OURSELVES?
Heck I just gave my self some air-time?
I don’t think it’s like that.(excuses, excuses Paul) Just PARADOXAL? I want to show a few people in Farrell’s neighborhood I am FLESH AND BLOOD. Not one of these latest VIRTUAL REALITY people-models.
It’s still good to connect with people F2F even if we cant afford to go to the Alchemy Convention we can go their in SPIRIT.
” I barely have the means to drive my car across town” someone posted recently. WHAT! You still lucky enough or do you still have a car? You better fix that rear light on your hunker or else it might end up getting towed away. Recycling junk pays off! ha, ha!
I always used to say — THEY ought to let taxpayers claim their SEDANS as DEPENDENTS for tax purposes. What one needs – you have to feed them (gas) and when they get sick you have to take them to the doctors (mechanics) plus if you don’t pay your health insurance premiums (drivers’ insurance) you better watch out if you get stopped by the FUZZ. Also, they need to get a social security number when you first buy them (registered)
I own a TV but not a CAR! ( 369 daysand still going without a cigarette. I remember people telling me in SMOG-LAND Los Angeles that I was polluting their lungs. Well, I use to shout back “Your polluting my lungs with your dam SUV!”
( Now, I finally see, no smell – what my present wife used to ALWAYS COMPLAIN ABOUT —– SMOKING STINKS! Although she didn’t complain kissing my ash-tray mouth, ha, ha!)
What I find reassuring of conspiracy theories is that they give one the notion that someone is trying to steer the damn boat. Sometimes I feel that Tom Clancy is right, conspiracies are too complicated to handle, and that no one is steering the damn boat: its hurtling down the rapids by itself! This is most disquieting, akin to what democracy did to India: chaos and unpredictable results: a bull in a teashop.
That being said, I believe that Dr. Farrell’s work is mostly dead on, and I share his grief in this disregard for humanity. I don’t think anyone is trying to get us desensitize. I think its happening by itself, a little at a time. Like the evolution of bikinis over the last hundred years (sorry for the contextually innapropriate comparison).
Dear Antoine,
What you posted makes very good sense. I need to keep this in my sometimes susceptable Mind (well? – my susceptable mind most of the time.) I am a sucker for any good tale or story-teller that comes along. It goes way back to the time my ALLeY-OOP ancestors sat around a campfire, shot the breeze or chewed the fat and didn’t have much else to do ( after 6pm like in some HOMETOWNS) BESIDES being afraid of the dark.
WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO DO?
Hang around here in my spare time? (maybe a good notion.)
OK back to seriousness:
EITHER THE NWO CREATURES know everything and every move so what’s the use resisting
OR
They have the best advantages or EDGE as they say in LAS VEGAS. It’s only a 1 or 2% (I think?) ADVANTAGE but look at the dough they make.
Now think —- Rothschild is supposedly sitting on a mountain of GOLD like SCROUGE McDUCK with every conceiveable facility available at his request ( or the New World Order’s —ORDERS)
That’s one heck of an Advantage; (It doesn’t make them GOD but they THINK SO!)
Put another way – Antoine, your running in a Marothon race and your starting line is where starting lines are in a FAIR RACE but Rothschild or his Cronies starting line is about TEN THOUSAND (BC or older) feet in front of the FINISH LINE. (Now who would you bet whatever peanuts you have in your wallet)
I try to be optimist for it is better for one’s mental health but come on – I SUFFER. Maybe I just like it! But don’t dare touch that whip or handcuffs around me!
I am not advocating Messiahism. We had enough of that nor some Freudian Big Daddy up above. I like the silly notion of Yugas and ACTIVATED PHOTONS that excite our Brain (blow the top of the EGO-PRISON off) and then send us to ANOTHER DIMENSION. Some say we are already their but aren’t aware?
I just claim plain OLD FASHION IGNORANCE!
They have the best —- HOUSE ADVANTAGE ( more like a NUT-HOUSE if you ask me?)
I just GOT IT. (my light-bulb is only 40 WATTS)
I get what you are HINTING at: So I am going to spill JACK’S BEANS and blow the whistle:
Jordan Maxwell’s SHIP OF STATE (the world) is, IS
RUDDERLESs!!!
Mobs are always stupid.
Just wait a few years, and then they’ll remember Qaddafi as the good old days. Our regime will screw them without any regards for anything else than plundering as much as we can without having it on CNN. At least he gave them free health care, education, housing grants, etc.
Too bad he tried to create an african gold based currency and sold his oil for gold…
Another Revolution —- After what happened in Haiti and the kidnapping of their country’s leader —- I STOPPED COUNTING OR PAYING MUCH ATTENTION.
i am of the persuasion his A$$ was GRA$$ a long time ago.
NEXT, NEXT, NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes,
I was very saddened by the display of my countrymen rejoicing in his capture and death.
Although, he did some cruel things as dictator. His love for his people was evident in all the things he accomplished on their behalf. He stood mightily against the tide of western imperialism, beligerently so.
I’m proud of that about him. I choose to remember his many good qualities instead of his mistakes. We can all learn from his successes where equitable.
The blood lust is very very very evident. This is another low point for humanity.
I am ashamed that my tax dollars went in to this effort. Many, many besides Gadahfi were also slaughtered with the help of our tax dollars.
I feel horrible about the whole thing. It’s good to see your tender heart. I respect that a great deal.
My God have mercy on our souls for sitting on the sidelines.
James
Did somebody say, “Kill the poor?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ORKLaozFzo
Not having seen the videos, what comes to mind for me is Germany in the 1930s with the attacks on Jews, intellectuals, and anyone else convenient for focusing hate, the Roman games as you said, the fake killing of Montag in Fahrenheit 451, the three minutes hate, etc.
It is an obvious blend of psywar ops, black magic, human sacrifice, and media mind control.
Who is next? Islamic citizens? Smokers? Fat people? Global Warming “deniers?” I can clearly see the puppet strings as the mind controlled masses dance to the glare of the hate-filled images on “the tube.” Maybe the new “War on Poverty” will be more literal – “Kill a homeless person for Christ.”
It is the kind of thing to expect from a leadership (using that term very loosely) which thinks that torture and secret murder is somehow in keeping with the ideals of this country. It has the stink of fascism on steroids, and the patterns are repeats of the run up to WW2 – economic crises and all.
We should be disgusted with our leaders for their psychotic sadism and rampant treason against the ideals of this country. Apparently they do not understand that if you resort to behavior worse than your enemy, you do indeed become worse than your enemy, and he has won. To violate one’s principles in order to protect them is to already have lost them.
Of course, this is assuming that there is any honesty about who is on whose side in the first place…
I remember when I was a child of 11 or 12 and I saw Nguyen Van Lem executed on the evening news with Walter Cronkite. That was during the Tet offensive in Vietnam, which I had been following closely as I was the neighborhood newspaper delivery boy.
The video was prefaced with a violence disclaimer. Also, Walter Cronkite, whom everyone trusted then, said that the shooter was the police Chief of Saigon and that Mr. Lem had tortured and executed some of the Police Chief’s relatives. This made the execution OK in my mind. I felt, emotionally, that justice had been done and no trial was necessary as it was, for all practical purposes, an act of war.
Yet, unless it was staged for the television, which 43 years later I don’t think so, the video clip was filmed by a reporter who just happened to be walking down the street with the Saigon Police Chief when they brought the recently captured Mr. Lem to him and the Police Chief pulled out his gun and blew Mr. Lem’s brains out right in front of the reporter as the reporter was filming.
The Gaddafi execution, if it is real at all (Remember how they keep killing people over and over these days.) is nothing short of intentional sensationalism and uncalled for bloodletting.
Recall again that when they staged killing bin Laden that, even though soldiers now have cameras mounted on their helmets, NO video was ever shown of that event. I mention the (fake) killing of bin Laden because if there ever was a military slaying that should have been on the evening news then bin Laden’s surely would have been the one to show, with a violence disclaimer of course.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyen_Van_Lem
Here’s one that’s right to the point.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/97168.html
Lady MacDeath et al.
Posted by Lew Rockwell on October 20, 2011 07:36 PM
It wasn’t only Hillary, Obama, Bush, and the rest of the power elite that cheered the murder of Gaddafi today. CNN showed the tape of his being beaten bloody before he was shot in the head, again and again and again, for our delectation. It was a tribal killing, ordered by the US, and savored by the establishment as well as the perps. He was a dictator, but more so than Obama? More so than the fundamentalists the US has brought to power, so as to cause chaos? As in Iraq, ethnic and religious minorities may look back on the dictator’s rule as a golden age. This isn’t a bunch of classical liberals who’ve come to power. Certainly anything that has Hillary–who looks more and more like one of the Three Witches every day–chortling over blood and scheming for more, can’t be good news.
I didn’t watch it because I stopped watching TV 7 years ago and I feel much better.
I’m sure is was disgusting and I don’t believe it was real. Osama Bin Laden died many years ago of a kidney disease and the was not recently killed by Navy Seals and dumped into the ocean. Although the Navy Seal team that went into the compound were blown up in a helicopter against all military protocol of placing the whole team on on plane.
Our government is lying once again. Qaddaffi was not the monster that the government made him out to be and he did not participate in Lockerbie. Iran was behind Lockerbie in retribution for our involvement in their country’s affairs. The US did not want to take on Iran at that time (they also knew ahead of time about the explosives and pulled personel out of the plane and allowed students to take their place). So, we set up Qaddaffi for Lockerbie.
I just don’t believe that he has been killed. I just don’t. But you are correct in us being forced fed violence. I was reminded of that when the photos were published of the train bombings in Madrid shortly after 911. They were just hideous. A question appeared in my mind and my gut…..why are we being shown these photos? What is the effect these photos will have on us?
Naomi —-
What did you do with the money you saved or did someone else in the house still insist on TV?
ALL THOSE BOOKS and SO LITTLE TIME…..! (if only….?)
Yes, I too found the broadcastinng of the horrors of bloody death for all, including children to see to be discusting.
One other thing concerns me even more, though. The murder of Anwar al-Awlaki a few weeks ago by a US drone. Anwar al-Awlaki was a US citizen. He was on a “list” of terrorists and that alone was enough to kill him without any due process. This is dangerous, because no one can tell you how you get on this list or who is next to be killed by this manner. If you are on this list in error, how do you get off or more importantly how would you even know so you could protest the error?
Amerika is no longer a nation that values law. The owners of this nation now put you on a list and take you out at will.
Speaking of subliminals, in the “Alex Jones: Nightly News” for October 20, 2011,which I subscribe to in lieu of television (Mike Rivero does a video cast from Hawaii to called “What Really Happened”), Alex played a number of video clips illustrating the use of subliminals being used for social engineering in advertising.
Here is the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NlhPIEbHjL0#!
It is worth noting that the placement location and geometric arrangement of the images in a picture or a video has an emotional and psychological impact on the viewer. This is true of the Gaddafi killing (which I doubt) videos also.
Hello, Dr. Farrell. Thank you for all your books. Your emotional concern today moved me to write. This is my first blog.
I, too, felt a shock to my system at the display of the murder of Gadafi on TV today. I couldn’t watch more than 10 seconds before I switched off. These days that’s sometimes the only thing you can do to protect your soul: shut off the nonsense, reject the poison.
I think those who wish to control the world have intensified and accelerated their efforts in the past century. This has manifested in the development, enhancement, and employment of a full spectrum of shock technology: shock in politics, shock in warfare, shock in finance, shock in education, shock in science, shock in media, shock in agriculture, and shock in entertainment. The object of the shock is to disorient the human psyche in as many different ways as possible, so as to be able to institute changes in people and in society during the disorientation phase, when people are momentarily too paralyzed to protect or think for themselves. There are big shocks like the Kennedys’ assassinations, 9/11, the 1929 and 2008 stock market crashes, and two World Wars. But there are a myriad of smaller daily shocks, produced in a steady stream, which like a Chinese water torture will eventually drive you mad. This Gadafi murder media exposure is one of those smaller shocks. At some point, the powers that be will consider the country, the world, softened up enough for their next really big move. But, as you so well know, this is a very, very, very long game they’re playing. One day it must end.
He depises Obama!
Yes, he regrets that he donated $100 to his campaign.
Yes, he wanted to belief in his promises of change
Regrettably, the only change in leadership we get today
is a change in diapers!
Thank you for this comment.
I heard Jim Fetzer say that he favored Marxism on one of his broadcasts a couple of years ago. This shocked me. It is impossible for me to believe that a man as well educated as Jim Fetzer would make such a statement without fully understanding his own words. Likewise, I find it impossible for a man as knowledgeable as Dr. Fetzer to have been duped by Obama.
Therefore, I believe that his retraction of his support for Obama is just a ruse. Personally, I think that Fetzer was standing on his laurels when he endorsed Obama and was using his considerable education to intimidate as many people as he could to support Obama and now that Obama is a known scoundrel, Fetzer has to somehow save face. I think that Fetzer’s initial support for Obama and his retraction of his support for Obama is just a ruse. I consider Jim Fetzer an insider much like I consider Steven Jones an insider.
FWIW.
Appreciate your honesty.
However, In my mind’s eye your ‘fixed’ viewpoint adheres to the ‘faulty-belief aquisision system’ I was referring to. There is also the ‘primed’ effect, or the ‘mere exposure effect’, or the ‘illusion-of-truth effect’. In short, once you’ve made up your mind, ANY evidence to the contrary is a non sequitur.
Again, my viewpoint as opposed to yours.
And, granted, I’am as subject to meme engineering as anyone.
Still, when the evidence points the way, I follow. And my mind can be changed; it has, and is always changing. Hopefully, for the better.
Google: The Real Deal with Jim Fetzer
Monday Oct 10, 2011
NATO & Libya
Christof Lehmann
Jim Fetzer? The self-proclaimed Marxist who said he believed that Obama would be the best President in decades?
OOps, I was supposed to hit this button.
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7)Bride & Groom recieve $64,000 to purchse flat 8)Major taxes & levies prohibited 9)To open a personal business a one time grant of $20,000 is provided by the State 10) Education & Medicine are 100% free.
Structurally Libya’s government is highly participatory & egalitarian.
Hard too believe?
EXACTLY!!!!!!
(p.s. to whom it may concern… I’am persistent pest extraordinaire)
Granted that I am for capitalism (NOT to be confused with the joke of an economy us Amerikans have now) yet, given the state of world affairs, I was pleased with the facts that you present here about Libya, which I had heard several months ago. I thank you for presenting these facts here so more people can learn them.
It is this state of high wealth, NOT based on a debt currency, which I believe is the primary reason that Libya was attacked in the first place.
I agree.
Probably The Primary reason.
Followed by The Oil & The Extraordinary Water System Engineered by Libya.
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Qaddafi’s role in benefiting the Libyan people. The following are United Nation stats. 1) The literacy rate in Libya is on the oder of 89%(2009- 94% males, 83% females. Close to 99% if you just count the youth of Libya. 2)GDP per capita income is $14,192(quite high for ‘3rd world). 3) Unemployment benefits $750 each family. 4)Subsidized salaries for nurses. 5)$1000 for every new born. 6)Each family $7,000 annually.
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Now, add to that, that we indulge in energetic motivated reasoning, picking apart others’ beliefs if they conflicy with our own. This faulty belief-aquisition system then leaves us all compromised. We are meme apes. Weare all subject to mem engineering.
Now I will attempt to continue with a Libya counterexamples to mainstream’s lamestream propaganda.
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William Cooper once claimed that when the “Illuminati” had gained its NWO that we would see public executions. This seems to fit with the MO of the yahwehists. I believe the purpose of public death is to create trauma in people, which pushes the mind into a more fragile state.
Think about all the death we see on TV. On the “Spike Channel” there’s a show called “1000 Ways to Die.” It actually celebrates death and each person who dies on the show is portrayed as deserving of death. People have heard of post traumatic stress caused by being involved in horrific events. I believe that TV pumps out a small bit of trauma each time horrific events are seen on TV (whether they be fiction of real).
People may scoff at this. But think about when people watch a scary movie and get scared. Or think about when people cry at a sad movie. Or think about when people get aroused at a sexual movie. While the images on TV aren’t actually happening, some part of he brain thinks that they are happening.
And yes, it does appear this is a message being sent to others who may oppose the Anglo-American NWO. But the Anglo-American elites should be careful. What happens if their former partners in the Nazi International gain power over the Anglo-American elites?
I suppose what’s good for the goose is good for the gander? 😉
Cooper DID say this and his words will come true.
As things stand right now, with the border wide open (except for physical walls they are building to keep people IN) and the government bringing in drugs by the truck/plane load (which the government will imprison you for using), multi-million dollar internal checkpoints are already in existence and springing up everywhere, most recently in Tennessee, where federal “agents” are stopping travelers on the open highway and subduing them to unConsitutional searches and humiliations.
People are having their genitals groped just to enter a sports stadium. It is only a matter of time, but soon…SOON, that this will be done at shopping malls. Freedom is GONE in Amerika. While I DO appreciate Joseph Farrell’s optimism, I see the Amerikan masses as submitting to all this in the name of “freedom.”
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We have a distinct tendency to believe the first thing were told over any subsequent version, because the first version of truth will always be the one we most rehearse in oor brain. Beacuase our semantic(meaning) and episodic(personal event) memories are seperated in our brains-and yet we don’t appear to care that our referencing system is screwy. We are riddled with a confirmation bias, a strong propensity to believe those ideas that support or at least loosely collaberate with our existing beliefs.
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Lewis Carol(Alice In Wonderland) said in effect/ My view of life is, that’s it’s next to impossible to convince anybody of anything because one of the hardest things in the world is to convey meaning ACURATELY from one mind to another. In fact, in the latest science dealing with memes/mirror neurons, they find that your memes want you to believe in your ideas. If you belive in them, the more likely you need to relay them to others(just like the selfish gene). A new generation of cognitive scientist are dicovering just how poor we are at choosing exactly what to believe.
The American people are INTENTIONALLY being led by the elites on an emotional & socially engineered road toward a worldwide empire. I did NOT, nor will I view the video discussed, as I believe it to be pure & sinister prpganda. ‘Memetically engineered’.
More on that…
The main thing I would like to address is that this execution was shown on television for everyone to see. I ALMOST turned on the evening news to see for myself in response to NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM Part 2, but I didn’t. I paused your video and I Googled “execution of gaddafi” and similar searches and the closest thing I could find was a 33 second video from Al Jazzera.
This low quality video only showed a corpse being lolled, NOT kicked, around on the ground. I surmise that it will take a day or two for videos (copyrighted?) of this event to surface on the net. In the meantime, I will take your word for it, Dr. Farrell.
Per your request for input, here is what I think:
1. I DO agree that the lamestream media, which is pwned by 5 interlocked corporations is being used to purposely manipulate and condition the television watching population.
2. It is also worth noting that before I sold my television, which I considered taking out and shooting instead, that I paid quite a bit of attention to the subliminalities that were broadcast on a regular basis. While a number of themes were present, violence in commercials was predominant as a form of conditioning using the product as a platform. Also, most fast food commercials had homosexual overtones.
3. There is NO doubt in my mind that the primary purpose for showing Gaddafi’s execution, if it was really Gaddafi and NOT a double or other look-alike (http://www.google.com/imgres?q=gene+simmons&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1109&bih=894&tbm=isch&tbnid=8WcHhNT7l_m04M:&imgrefurl=http://la.guestofaguest.com/tag/gene-simmons/&docid=oqq8zDcYBJIs7M&imgurl=http://la.guestofaguest.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/gene-simmons-picture.jpg&w=647&h=1024&ei=Q7WgTtO4ELSjsQKors2iBQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=615&sig=103412644528819459036&page=1&tbnh=167&tbnw=99&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=54&ty=101), was to condition people, Amerikans in particular, into bloodlust.
a. A secondary sublimation is to imply that those of us who want to see the dead body when an execution occurs, such as my desire to have actually seen a real dead bin Laden rather than being asked to believe that he was dumped into the ocean “respectfully,” to imply that I and anyone else who doubts the official story of events and refuses to take Washington’s words as gospel are bloodthirsty individuals prima facie.
4. Today on Alex Jones Steve Pieczenik, drawing on his years of experience, stated his belief that there is a rule that kings are NOT slain but, rather, are exiled. Building on this, Pieczenik stated his belief that Gaddafi was NOT killed but was secretly spirited into exile and his death was staged.
I may have more to say on this later.
That is interesting (Pieczenik saying Gaddafi was probably spirited away). According to Rayelan Russbacher, from her marriage to Gunther Russbacher, Austrian heir of bloodline templars and, because of those connections she seems to get a lot of inside knowledge from “good guy” intelligence and military.
Rayelan seems to think that Gaddafi has a bloodline that goes back to the original, before even that of the “elites,” perhaps. That he was the keeper of many ancestral artifacts and knowledge.
If true, Pieczenik may be right. If nothing else, they might keep him alive but publicly dead so that they can extract all that he has access to. Wouldn’t want to be him right now, in any event.
Ramura–I think you got some incorrect information there–This guy, Gaddafi, was a decendent of a nomatic tribe who, in his own testimony, lived in the arid desert long before oil was known to exist there. He was a Bedouin[sp] herder who joined the military after the state of Lybia was created during and after WW2. He was uneducated until that time. The British, Russians, French and Americans set up those bounded states, lybia, Irak, Syria and, well, I don’t have the rest in my head at the moment. He was educated in the military by advisors from a western state who had designed the govermental structure and seated those in it—As he grew in this education, he formulated the task of unseating the independent government –he was but a private at the time–and proceeded to set himself up as a dictator without a check and balance government to argue should he err against his usurped people. He was there when oil was discovered, and being shrewd and such played the oil card to his egos content while at the same time, developing for his captured population, a system of economics from which they did much better financially than ever before. They graduated from tents to buildings and had access to education. While this was not a stupid man, he sure was brutal. Those were the politics if his time. He was an idealist and power monger who spent his early years in power seeking to design a system of Arab states..he was congenial but by no means either a scholar or a holder of mystical secrets. Some called him the “Mad Hatter of the Middle East”. He would have been a very successful door to door sales man but even if he had been selling bibles, he would have had no attachment to the mystic history during which it was written. He lied, cheated, murdered and stole what he could…He had to be killed by the tribal standard of vendetta..Should the world have been treated with the images of that killing..I suspect so…The message is simple, “That which ye sow, so shall you reap.” DRONES WORK…
While I’m sure MQ may have lacked some social graces consider for a moment the environment he was operating in… If you swim with sharks you may have to display aggressive behavior to be taken seriously.. listening to NPR I’m informed that the oil industry will have to be “reformed” and the World Bank can now begin operating in Libya… I’ll be curious to see how the benefits to the citizens of Libya will be “reformed”…
I had just made a rather extensive comment siding with Dr. Farrell’s viewpoint and relaying some United Nation’s statistics as well as the latest in ‘belief systems science’ ralating to the subject matter.
BUT I’am persistant. So I will attempt to relay aforementioned info in ‘Parts’.
JF: Would dearly dearly dearly dearly (did I say dearly?) like to see an index in each new book you write. And while I’m wearing out the knees on my pants praying for an index in each book, I think it’s time to beg for a concordance to all the your books in print. If you have them in electronic form I should think this is a task that could be deputed to a trusted colleague. I often find myself wanting to find multiple references to various topics addressed here and there in the books, but I have to rely on my own notes in the margins, etc.
Soooooooooooooooo: please please please please please consider my request.
Thanks, pogo
YES!!!! An index, PLEASE! Thank you for the footnotes. But how about asking your publishers to do an index?
Thanks,
Tom
I noticed the book as I looked over your left shoulder on the screen —- “”Between Two Ages?”
Have to look that one up?
First time speak-
Social engineering on all levels – Has Qathafi been socially engineered himself?
A revolutionary with inspiring ideas 40 years ago, a cold war chess player being embargoed from the playing field was revived as an odd shake hands 10 years or so ago. Qathafi was a small cold war warrior used to newtonian tactics and chaplinesque tictacs. The powers that be have not initiated him, they have mesmerized Qathafi and by his fault – or nature – being a tribesman that he was from the likes who fall for such things (See the NTC)
excuse me, social engineering? Yes of course, bloodlust too, but do not forget the guy sitting cozy behind the JOYstick setting the predator drone on target – not much blood he is likely to taste.
Dehumanization – makes one wonder what human is once we have forgotten – right.
This clearly sends the world the message that the global elites will brook no interference with their plan for one world government and that anyone standing in their way will be similarly and summarily dealt with. We need to understand that this isn’t the ranting of conspiracy loons anymore. War is declared on us and soon the viper squads will be not only checking the roads, streets and bus stations, but our very homes unless we recognize and act against these monsters.
Reminded me of the Uday and Qusay images as well. So the media shows us Quaddafi’s body, but not Bin Laden’s?
I’m no fan of these brutal dictators either, but it does seem that these people have been turned into trophies, so to speak.
Life is already dark enough. I don’t like having these images in the back of my mind. So now Libya is “liberated” just like Iraq was. Remember how all of that turned out?
isn’t it nice how the US invades and kills those we set up as leaders when they ask for gold or EU money for their oil, we unseat them and then put in another leader until they ask for gold or higher money for their oil.
now the rebels we were backing shot the poor guy on our command of course.
Why is it people liek me, simple not the brightest people, can see this don’t you think the rest of the world sees it as well and will eventually do something to put the US down?
Yes, kt might not be long before they take down the real criminals from the US folks.
Jude
Ever think you’re a lot brighter than you give yourself credit for? Besides, all anyone needs is to turn off the tv and start reading. If there have more than two brain cells to rub together, they should get it in fairly short order.
I think people see it.
They just pretend not to see or acknowledge it. It’s too anxiety-producing. People are stressed out from MODERNITY’ skating on THIN ICE. listening to the CLOCK TICKING AWAY and unconsciously counting the days to the END OF THE WORLD. or whatever the SHITe FAIRY will bring in the future.
OR
Many people are PINNING for the GOOD OLD DAYS that never actually existed except as MEMORIES in their brain! ( i am like this — the Garden of Eden)
I meet INTELLECTUALS who PRETEND NOT TO KNOW WHAT THEY KNOW and SPEAK OF EVERYTHING THEY DON’T KNOW BUT PRETEND TO KNOW. (Every try reasoning with them – it’s not pleasant conversation.)
People in droves are experiencing trauma/shock – the lite version. It’s a kind of STIMULUS that WAKES US UP only long enough to get us apathetic and depressed. Afterwards, go back to SLEEPWALKING.
Or —– as the two fellow Wall St. bad guys who died suddenly in a car crash and found them selves in a waiting room Down Below in HELL where people shovel coal all DAY AND NIGHT! THEY SUFFER forever and ever and ever like I once heard George Carlon express.!
One Devil comes in and directs the two Bankster-Gangster Guys to a room where they have to stand waist high in CaaCar or that brown-stuff. One of these guys (could just as well be a woman) says to the other: This aint so bad. I can live with this;
All of a sudden another DEVIL opens the door and says;
BREAK IS OVER — BACK ON YOUR KNEES!
(Ever work at a dead end JOB?)