CBS REPORT: WALTER CRONKITE ON SOVIET RESPONSE TO JFK ASSASSINATION
Last week was, of course, the anniversary of the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy, and as I always do, I spend a few days trying to find new information on the assassination, when I ran across this short clip from Walter Cronkite on CBS news:
What interests me here are the statements reported by Cronkite of the Soviet spokesman Valentin Zorin,, who quite rightly pointed out that the security measures around President Kennedy on that fateful day were not what normal security protocols intended. Zorin also points out that the people behind it were essentially right wing elements, a kind of "rogue" or hidden government, and opposed to Kennedy's attempts at thawing Soviet-American relations. This is, it should be noted, as I do in LBJ and the Conspiracy to Kill Kennedy, an argument for the involvement of powerful people within the government, for only such people could remove the President's normal security protocols. It is chilling too, to see how CBS news compliantly dismissed Zorin's trenchant observation as just more "Soviet propaganda."
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Funny, I was recently reading a book about a presidential assassination. Multiple factions, cover-ups, look-alike-patsies, improbable coincidences, people dying mysteriously. No, it wasn’t about JFK, it was about Lincoln. Like many things, there was much more to this than the brief blurb in history class. It’s spooky how much it resembles the JFK death. Balsiger and Sellier’s book The Lincoln Conspiracy is out of print, but if you can find it, get it. History does repeat and JFK wasn’t the first.
I noticed that a new book was released Nov. 22 on the Kennedy Assassination :
LBJ: The Mastermind of the JFK Assassination by Philip Nelson
I don’t know anything about, but it looks interesting and was wondering how much it overlaps with “LBJ and the Conspiracy to Kill Kennedy.”
I think Gerald Celente coined the word Presstitutes, and their currency is timeless. Ignorance looks to be a quality for employment in their ranks. Many were on the payroll of the CIA. The closer to the top of these ‘news’ organizations they were, the more they were complicent.
Note that the statement is not a claim to specific knowledge of the Presidential security details of that day: it is just a logical argument that “it just is not possible for a lone nut to get through Presidential security.”
Very similar to what a top Russian air force general said about 9-11 (according to inernet articles: I assume the guy really did make the statements): he did not believe that it was possible for “rogue” airliners to fly around US territory unattended by the USAF. It just could not happen (IF normal security procedures were being followed).
This sort of logic does not prove anything, but is still fairly powerful, especially since these arguments remain UNaddressed in the US media (calling an argumen propaganda does not refute it).
Quasar, In your OPINION, Ridge is racist.. You ONLY apply that term to Whites. Anti-racism is a code word for ANTI-WHITE.
You, know, I don’t want jaw-jaw about how much of truth or a pure propagandawas in Commrade Yorin speech. I just want to ask ONE, BUT very sighnificant question: what moral right to blame US of fachism and racism had this MAN, while belonging to the group of the criminals named the Communist Party of the Soviet Union that carried out multi-million genocide if the peoples inside the USSR since 1917 up to the time of his interview when the uprisings in the East Germany, Hungary were drowned in blood (1953 and ’56) and the peaceful demonstration of working people in Novocherkassk was brutally supressed in 1962 by using percussion bullets. I’m aware of the outbursts of racism and violence in the US, regarding the problem of the blacks, however I DO NOT PAY MUCH CREDIT TO PERSONS LIKE ONE ABOVE that have their hands bathed in blood.
“This Zorin was a famous man in his time and lived in America – once he had dug himself in comfortably he didn’t crawl out for twenty years. He was the special correspondent for TASS and APN, and ‘Pravda’ and for everything else in the world too. Zorin led a life of trial and sacrifice in America, there on the front line of class struggle. He lived in an American cottage, drove an American car, stuffed himself with American food and wore American clothes. He responded by telling such crap about America, that if she’d been even a little bit weaker and not quite as great, she’d have collapsed a long time ago under the severity of the ‘truths’ that Zorin exposed.” – from Ridge’s link on the article by famous ourdays publicist Mikhail Veller. Oh, this well-known celebrated breed of fighters for all out equality, living among the capitalistic exploitators (and harshfully exploiting their own slaves)!
Even if the facts, stated by him were in accordance with the truth, THIS man didn’t deserve to “expose the Conspiracy to kill JFK”, but had been exposed himself! Disgusting!!
“Southern States of America – a stronghold of racist and other fascist scum”
Wow… Just wow.
I know that saying things like that about White nations is okay, It is GOOD. It makes one a so called “anti-racist”.
But just now I was imagining what those words would sound like, if they had been used to describe any nation, other than a White one.
Of course the first answer was, the words are hateful and the person uttering them, would have Zero credibility.
So how come it is okay for non-Whites to say things like that about White people, yet if anyone points out
a) They are not White
b) Their motivations may not be pure and could well be based on ethnic hatred
that person is immediately branded a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews?
I had never heard of this Zorin character, so I did a quick search and this is the first thing I turned up:
“And everyone knew a joke about Zorin, which started when Kissinger visited the USSR and was based on their incredible outward similarity. Zorin was the spitting image of Kissinger; he could have been his twin brother except that he was only half Kissinger’s natural height – he had the same curly crop, sticking-out ears, podgy chin and horn-rimmed spectacles.
‘Say, Mr. Zorin, are you a Jew?’
‘I’m a Russian.’
‘Oh I see. In that case I’m an American.'”
So tell me in your opinion, is it impossible for Jews to have resentments and heaven forbid “hate”, or do you think it is only White people that “hate”?
point of fact Ridge is that Valentin Zosin is White. Look at a picture and he is White as White can be. Now scum may have been going a bit far but it is well known that at least until the 60’s the former CSA states were racist with their policy of segregation and that’s the majority of the citizens of those states.
Anything that sets apart another race of people is racism and it doesn’t matter what the race of the perpetrator is. After all aren’t we all human? Does that not make us all the same?
It becomes evident to me that this statement by Walter Cronkite, who was the most respected newsman at that time, could have been deliberately mouthed as part of the plot to discourage discussion of “alternative plots” by the public in the future. This does not imply that Mr Cronkite had an understanding of the plot of deception, since he was merely reading, albeit with disdain,. what was before him in print.
By establishing the “story” of US government involvement, as an item which was linked to Communist sources, any future statements or even thoughts to that scenario would be discouraged as being someone espousing the “communist line” of thought on the Kennedy assassination. Thus it would be postured that by establishing this prejudiced version of the plot to kill Kennedy as the communist version of the story it would not be pursued for fear of association with communist thought.
I lived through those days, immediately following the Cuban missle crisis, and I remember the hatred for communism that permeated society in general at that time. No one would want what they said to be associated in any way as being part of communist thought. This could be part of the reason for acceptance by the populace, and more importantly the press, of the official government version of the plot as presented in those early years following the assassination.
On the other hand, if it was just “commie agitprop” to be dismissed, why did Cronkite read it in so much detail, including obviously verifiable fact? Why even discuss it at all? Why not just dismiss it without detailed comment? Perhaps it was the only way “certain elements” could get the information out – by hanging the obvious “commie propaganda” sign on it, then quoting it in detail. Kind of similar to the way intel folks did with the depositions of witnesses to Nazi technology right after WW2.
Is it propaganda if every word is true? On Babylon 5 we were treated to the dichotomy of “Good Facts” and “True Facts,” and Bernays held out his favorite term, “properganda,” meaning the ideas that the elite thought us peasants would be better off believing (or, rather, that the elites would be better off if the peasants believed).
Prouty has said exactly the same thing, and he was no “commie.” He was however, in a position to know the game and many players, many of whom he named in his books.
Commie propaganda indeed.
I recommend this information if you’re interested in finding out what really happened:
A Farewell to Justice
There are perhaps more than a few reasons
why some still buy into the Oswald shooting.
They all involve dumbing and numbing the public.
One is Flouride over 2 or 3 generations.
Another is the deliberate dumbing down of
our public schools.
Another is that the poorest are kept too busy
working (if they are lucky!) 2or 3 jobs with no
time to think about anything except putting food
on the table and a roof over the famliy.
And soon, Lithium !!!!
It’s a good thing that there really is an immense
Hang on…sharp curve ahead.
Thank you for helping people see that this problem is NOT new. It’s been going on our whole lives and some of us are just now waking up to it. Too many think it’s just a partisan thing or, worse, that it’s the truth. Maybe the internet has helped us wake up, or maybe, as so many say, it’s the age, the beginning of the new one, or both, but your work to dig up tidbits like this really HELPS.