THE POPE AND THE PARTICLES

Mitch Batros over at Earth Changes Media is reporting an interesting story about the Vatican's interests in the Large Hadron Collider experiments of CERN:

(Part-I) Vatican Has Full Attention On Charged Particles

I just love stories like this, because it gives opportunity for the mind to ruminate on various scenarios of why the Vatican would take such a keen interest in matters of physics.

From the historical standpoint, it is,obviously, explainable. The Vatican, as we all know, took a keen interest in the Galileo case, through its then "grand inquisitor" Cardinal Bellarmine. While the Vatican gets a lot of heat-  rightfully so - for its handling of Galileo, what most moderns do not realize is that Galileo complicated his case with his theory of tides, which was manifestly false and as Cardinal Bellarmine repeatedly emphasized. But the Vatican's interest in science matters took a much darker turn with its burning of Giordano Bruno. At least in Galileo's case he got an apology (a couple of centuries late to be sure), but in Bruno's case the Vatican remains as unrepentant as the Nolan.

Here we speculate, and it's entirely speculation. Let's take a quotation from the article as our basis:

"As I'm digging into Vatican documents hidden in plain-sight, a picture has developed. I conjecture the Vatican is comparing what they posses in ancient text, materials, scrolls, first hand originals items of which none of us are aware - to recent scientific discoveries from spacecrafts Fermi, Plank, Wise, Chandra, and Cassini. Why these? Each one of them has brought back new information from deep space (universe) which has turned scientific formulas (understandings) on its head. Scientific bodies literally have to re-write the books."

Batros follows this up with another, citing an undisclosed Vatican "source":

"In the last century, man certainly made more progress - than in the entire previous history of humanity. Scientists do not create the world; they learn about it and attempt to imitate it, following the laws and intelligibility that nature manifests to us. The scientist's experience as a human being is therefore that of perceiving a constant, a law, a logos that he has not created but that he has instead observe. In fact, it leads us to admit the existence of a rhythmic causation which is not made by the hand of man, and which sustains the universe. This is the meeting point between the natural sciences and religion. As a result, science becomes a place of dialogue, a meeting between man and nature and, potentially, to the creator of all."

Normally I am not given to comment - nor even to mention - "anonymous sources" but in this instance I think what Batros has cited is significant. Here's why: I have maintained in a number of my books that the ancients had a "topological metaphor" of the physical medium and of its relationship to the created world, and to mind or consciousness itself. Qithin quantum mechanics, there are theories that particles are literally created "ex nihilo" as it were from the vacuum itself, the Dirac sea, or "quantum foam" or whatever one wishes to call it. The trouble is, this metaphor existed prior to the rise of the Yahwist religions, and in a certain sense, as Dr de Hart and I attempted to show in The Grid of the Gods, the trinitarian structure of this metaphor, in almost all mythologies in which it is found, arises from a formally explicit necessity, no faith or special revelation involved.

Put in that way, then, the Vatican may be sensing that science and very ancient religious cosmologies could conceivably spell a long-term threat, and hence, its interest. Keep the dial on this one, for it will be an interesting one to watch.

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

18 Comments

  1. Jon Norris on December 5, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    The Vatican is quite interested in Astronomy, having several observatories around the world, including one nicknamed “the Pope Scope” in Arizona.

    They are certainly watching, looking for something, and I doubt it is the face of God.



    • LSM on December 6, 2011 at 4:44 pm

      if my read sources are correct the observatory is named Lucifer



  2. MattB on December 5, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    http://www.tgdaily.com/general-sciences-features/59699-and-chalmers-university-said-let-there-be-light

    And Chalmers University said ‘let there be light’

    Scientists at Chalmers University of Technology have succeeded in creating light from vacuum.

    Counterintuitively, vacuum isn’t really empty: it’s full of various particles that are continuously popping in and out of existence. Since their existence is so brief, they’re usually referred to as virtual particles.

    Back in the 1970s, it was predicted that it should be possible to persuade photons to leave their virtual state and become real ones – in other words, measurable light – if they were allowed to bounce off a mirror moving almost as fast as the speed of light.

    And now, this phenomenon, known as the dynamical Casimir effect, has been observed for the first time.

    “Since it’s not possible to get a mirror to move fast enough, we’ve developed another method for achieving the same effect,” says Per Delsing, professor of experimental physics at Chalmers.

    “Instead of varying the physical distance to a mirror, we’ve varied the electrical distance to an electrical short circuit that acts as a mirror for microwaves.”

    The ‘mirror’ consists of a quantum electronic component referred to as a superconducting quantum interference device, which is extremely sensitive to magnetic fields. By changing the direction of the magnetic field several billions of times a second, the scientists were able to make the ‘mirror’ vibrate at a quarter the speed of light.

    “The result was that photons appeared in pairs from the vacuum, which we were able to measure in the form of microwave radiation,” says Per Delsing. “We were also able to establish that the radiation had precisely the same properties that quantum theory says it should have when photons appear in pairs in this way.”

    What’s going on is that the ‘mirror’ transfers some of its kinetic energy to the virtual photons, helping them to materialise.

    “Relatively little energy is therefore required in order to excite them out of their virtual state,” says associate professor of theoretical physics Göran Johansson.

    “In principle, one could also create other particles from vacuum, such as electrons or protons, but that would require a lot more energy.”
    .



    • Jay on December 5, 2011 at 9:32 pm

      Didn’t JPF link this story a few weeks ago?



  3. James on December 5, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    “In the last century, man certainly made more progress – than in the entire previous history of humanity. Scientists do not create the world; they learn about it and attempt to imitate it, following the laws and intelligibility that nature manifests to us. The scientist’s experience as a human being is therefore that of perceiving a constant, a law, a logos that he has not created but that he has instead observe. In fact, it leads us to admit the existence of a rhythmic causation which is not made by the hand of man, and which sustains the universe. This is the meeting point between the natural sciences and religion. As a result, science becomes a place of dialogue, a meeting between man and nature and, potentially, to the creator of all.”

    I’ve tried to explain what this excerpt states to my friends all the time, that we, as human beings, perceive things from our perspective (go figure!), which includes all predisposed thoughts/feelings/ideas. To try to explain the goings on in the Universe from such a perception is a grand disconnect. The saying “don’t judge others till you’ve walked a mile in their shoes”, I think, embodies this notion quite well. The only problem with that is we are talking about things that we can not properly put in to a human perspective for they are not events or realities that we can duplicate (try as we might) or even properly experience!

    I’ll use this as another example. In a conversation I had with a friend of mine regarding the destruction of the Mississippi river delta, he kept on bringing up the fact that it is unlivable and completely useless and it is because of people. My response was that just because that area was unlivable by human beings doesn’t necessarily mean we destroyed it. In the context of our planet and how we think/know it’s functions, the planet, I argued, would eventually fix itself, whether humanity was present or not. And so this, to me at least, is an example of “thinking” from the perspective of the planet as opposed to my friends standpoint (and many others I assume) of thinking solely in the perspective of human beings.

    I could be wrong, I am, after all, bored at work.

    Sorry if this is a double post, the site was acting up a bit earlier.



  4. chris on December 5, 2011 at 11:41 am

    In Thelemic thought (drawn largely from Egyptian revivalism) the trinity of reality is Hadit, Nuit and Heru-Ra-Ha.
    Hadit being the point, the single active point in space from which experience derives, Nuit being the circle or plane/ waveset of passivity in which Hadit the point rests, and Heru-Ra-Ha being the third component encompassing both active and passive forms internally( Horus and Ra) that arises from the union of Nuit and Hadit.
    This to me sounds like all other trinities in its one, two, three aspect, or active, passive, and amalgamation that we have through time. Just thought i’d share.



  5. Robert Barricklow on December 5, 2011 at 10:11 am

    This makesmore sense than anyother scenerio that one examines, given that one assume the ancient text exist and that they convey ancient ‘truth’ that science is touching upon but not ‘seeing’ consciously. This is not only true in the sciences, but in finance, mind/consciounes, and others that are not even on ‘our’ radar. It is just another sign, that who is ever pulling theses string to cloak the knowledge from our grasp, is unfathomable to my mind’s eye. In other words, is it ‘something/nothing’ that famously, for lack of a better coin/handle sez YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!.
    It looks to be the more the counter: they can’t handle the truth because, as corny as it sounds, it sets us free.



  6. HAL838 on December 5, 2011 at 5:10 am

    Batros’ sources are all disinformers.
    NASA ! (?)
    Oh please !

    Everything is played down and does
    Batros know it ?
    Of course not !
    His ‘sources’ are gold !
    Government agencies.

    I take it as such and at least double the threat.

    You posted while I was on another page.
    Catching the latest early in the morning these days.

    He quotes the modern Maya who know absolutely nothing
    The Hopi are the best source for legendary info.



    • HAL838 on December 5, 2011 at 5:14 am

      PS
      I just ordered three books by Gary David.
      Are you familiar Dr Farrell, with him?

      This time, Joseph, I would appreciate a brief reply,
      such as Yes or No….? Good or bad……..?

      I’m doing a lot of that lately.
      My ‘sixth sense’ seems to be telling me that
      I will have lots of time to read (?)



      • HAL838 on December 5, 2011 at 8:01 am

        Gary David writes on the plains Indians who
        morphed into the Hopi of today.

        They have glyphs and legends of the stars
        and the messages they contain, much as the Egyptians.

        He is of the ‘new’ astroarcheaology and gives us
        the benefit of his years of study on this.
        He moved to the area years ago to facilitate those studies.

        You can reply, Joseph, if you can.
        I would like your opinion.

        You are now on my desktop, so one of the first sites I hit.
        😉



      • Debra Caruthers on December 5, 2011 at 10:26 am

        (Hal: I will jump in as I have met Gary David and watched one of his slideshow presentations over here at the AUP bookstore in Cottonwood, AZ … likely you have already discovered his Orion Zone web site, suggest you keep this page bookmarked because it has the maps of how the positioning of the Hope Mesas in Arizona line up with the Orion constellation … lots of other good stuff at this web site.)
        http://www.theorionzone.com/maps.htm



        • Debra Caruthers on December 5, 2011 at 10:28 am

          whoops, that’s Hopi Mesa, not Hope Mesa … Freudian slip, perhaps.
          😉



        • HAL838 on December 5, 2011 at 11:19 am

          Thanks much, Debra.
          I really hate to bother Dr Farrell,
          but I never heard of this guy.

          I checked it out and bookmarked it
          to favorites.
          Sounds like an endorsement to me.
          🙂
          And “hope” is always a good thing !



          • HAL838 on December 5, 2011 at 11:21 am

            There it is again.

            “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” !

            I think I’ll do a PC sweep………..



        • HAL838 on December 13, 2011 at 4:03 pm

          I don’t know if you do any backtracking, Debra, but I got
          all 3 books and started one.

          They all look delicious !

          So thanks again for your input.
          🙂



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