THE REPUBLITHUGS VS RON PAUL
As you know, I've been watching the candidates for the Republithug nomination for president, while secretly entertaining the hope that Secretary of State Clinton will toss her hat into the ring for the Dummycrook nomination, just to make things interesting. One thing comes home to me more and more, is that the establishment of the Republithug party (and that means just as surely the same establishment behind the Dummycrooks), are scared to death of Ron Paul.
Well consider the fact that he captures the young vote that is disenchanted with the politics as usual, even some of us older folks,myself included. Paul's message of scaling back the American Empire resonates with many who have begun to see through the whole war on terror as just another means of promoting that empire, and his messages about the Federal Reserve have begun to hit home as never before with the all-too-visible corruption within the financial sector. Lastly, but by no means least, Congressman Paul's staunch libertarianism vis-a-vis social issues appeals to independents and those on the political left that view the Republithug Party's reliance on the right wing evangelical block with deserved suspicion.
Enter former Senator Rick Santorum, who is on record as viewing the recent assassination of the Iranian nuclear scientist as a "wonderful" thing, and who has now come out and revealed his true fascist colors when it comes to social issues, namely, that America is "all about imposing values" on people:
Santorum: “Imposing” our values on each other is “what America’s about”
Really, senator? Would you be so quick to adopt this point of view if, say, a majority of Americans decided that churches ought to be required to ordain women lest they be found in violation of federal equal rights policies and tax exempt status? Would you be so quick to endorse this view requiring a change in your own church's doctrine and practice?
I think not. Santorum, of course, states his views because he knows he can get away with it; they are the views of most Americans, until those Americans realize, however, that the implication of Santorum's "philosophy" is tyranny. Ron Paul has it right: the American experience is of personal liberty, and he is the only candidate making that the philosophical first principle of his bid for the presidency.
But the real message Ron Paul is sending is, in my opinion, even deeper, and that message is that his message is not going to go away in the long run, no matter what repressions are put into place to do so.
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Hi Jospeh. As a writer versed in classical and contemporary literary tropes and theory, I’d firstly like to agree with your use of the word tyranny in this context, and also point out something which (for want of a ‘soundbite’ to sum up the theme of this article), you may like to incorporate from here on in.
Namely, that in Robert McKee’s well known book/seminar ‘Story’, he posits a final destination for the level of conflict and antagonism presented within any story, lamenting that many authors and screenwriters often do not go far enough, stopping short before what he terms the ‘Negation of the Negation’ level.
Tyranny here is the negation of the negation of the idea of JUSTICE, which (along with Liberty for all) America ostensibly stands… no snickering at the back, there. First we have Justice, the will to see that right and fairness prevail. The next level of antagonism to that idea is Contrariness – unfairness, racism, faceless unaccountable bureacracy, delay, indifference, bias etc. Then comes Contradiction – injustice, the will to break society’s laws etc. And finally the Negation of the Negation: Tyranny; injustice sanctioned by the state, posing as justice. in other words LEGAL CRIMES committed by the government. Fascism/Corporatism manifest.
If that doesn’t sum up the current state of the art on your shores right now, what with SOPA, NDAA et al in high spirits, cruising for trouble and heading for a front yard near you, then I don’t know what does. Where it goes from here is anyone’s guess but I’d say the very concept of justice will soon be officially discarded along with the constitution and labelled retrogressively as ‘a-priori terrorist propaganda’ or something equally lewis carroll, and of course then you’re going to head up through a whole other set of levels of antagonism altogether.
Can anyone say ‘life imitating art’?
“if voting changed anything they’d make it illegal”- Emma Goldman
“none are more hopelessly enslaved than those who believe they are truly free”- Goethe
“the more things change the more they stay the same”- as sung by Bon Jovi-
it is only when we wake up and realize that we are all slaves to debts of all kinds (start with a rigged voting system- one is “indebted” to the Diebold voting “machinations”) will we able to rid ourselves of a very negative cosmic yoke- once aware we can positively thwart anything- but it entails finally realizing “your vote doesn’t count”- and that we are slaves to monetary debt and empty oral promises (talk is cheap) of “change”- change can mean either political difference or monetary pittance-
if absolutely everyone boycotted the vote the power-brokers would be forced to emerge from underneath their rocks-
I still can’t believe that one still believes in the validity of a two-party system in the US (same here in Germany)-
I don’t know what to say anymore in this respect…
Larry in Germany
The US Government spends millions on the GET OUT THE VOTE.
They have to maintain an ‘ILLUSION.”
I will admit that in small local-YOKO elections such as City Alderman or City Dog-Catcher a small amount of votes CAN make a difference.
My vote in a Presidential election is as Chomsky put it: ” A Ratification of someone ELSE’S selection or choice.” (I rather not participate in this PROCESS so I stay home on federal elections)
Candidates are just ‘SOAP-BRANDS” which claim they are so different from the next brand but analyze the ingredients and they amount to almost the same substance.
The lesser of two evils is still EVIL!
Do you know who I would VOTE FOR if his name did come on the BALLOT?
I would vote for —–
“ALFRED E. NEWMAN’ FOR PRESIDENT!
Twiddle-E-De dumb and Twiddle-E-De dumber!
I like the way the DEMOCRATS did it back in the old days of the NEW YORK CITY MACHINE. They would go into the local bar-rooms and give anyone who VOTED FOR THEM = 5 bucks. (five bucks was significant to some miserable laborer when wages were only 15 cents and hour and no welfare.)
What’s even better than this is that the ENTERPRISING laborer could increase his benefit by VOTING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. GEE, I struck it rich! Ha, ha.
Look what we have today? = ELECTRONIC voting machines. Now the BASTARDS give all the FREEBE- BRIBES to their Tech-buddies WHO DON’T NEED IT and the MIDDLE CLASS GET’S STUCK WITH THE BILL.
(ah, those poor dwindling and almost exstinct species out in the suburbs with their swimming pools and air-conditioners who cant stand a LIBERATED single mother who has NO MAN (I wonder why?) giving bottle of milk to her baby. I FEEL REAL SORRY for the MIDDLE CLASS!)
I remember on this Comedian’s LP RECORD where KRUSCHEF was banging his shoe on some UN table saying ‘We give people FOOD and you people give them the VOTE! ( he laughed at this.)
TALK ABOUT DUMB —well I believed WHAT MISTER K SUPPOSEDLY SAID in this ‘once upon a time” until I heard of a little country called UKARANE?
It doesn’t matter for the ‘LUCKY ONES in the GREAT USA will probably be scavaging for a LUMP OF COAL along the railroad tracks to stay warm IF THIS KEEPS UP!
I am thinking of the BILLIONAIRE phoney beattle’s who sang ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE this song —GET BACK, GET BACK —GET BACK TO WHERE YOU ONCE BELONG! ( I’ll give them credit — they sang the truth for once in their lives? (probably didn’t even KNOW IT/)
Get back JUDE!
One more interesting t-i-b-i-t — my former sociology PROFESSOR once said this to the class:
“One of the principle reasons for PROHIBITION was to break this bribery gravy-train in the local taverns which at the time acted as very good SOCIAL CENTERS for the rabble!
( I assume the wives of the WASPY REPUBLICANS had too much time on their hands so they helped start the DO-GOODER CAMPAIGN AGAINST —DEVIL SPIRITS. (They may have got the vote but the not so goody-wives of these very same men were out promagating with CIGARETTE BUTTS showing the world HOW FREE THEY ARE and being sucked into the AD-PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN.)
FREE — YEAH RIGHT,,, AT —-TEN BUCKS A PACK!
Who needs the MAFIA anymore when they have the GOVERNMENT?
You might try checking into the pietist movement, and their beliefs that man could be brought to moral perfection by the passage of laws against alcohol and other vices that they deemed were immoral by using the state as the great engine of moral uplift.
Add to this the embrace of the socialism that was sweeping through Europe at the time and the march of the fabian socialists and I think you’ll have a much clearer picture of what the dynamics of the times were and how they negatively impacted everything that’s happened in the twentieth century and into the 21st.
It’s certainly been a IN YOUR FACE media management when it comes to Ron Paul.
His foreign policies are better than ALL other contenders, BUT his domestic agenda is sub-human.
Since Americans require the illusion of self-government, …we have elections.
Yes, in your face indeed, and getting much more blatant and obvious each day.
Brilliant and amazing reaction of the crowd though!
Host: Let’s move on and skip Dr. Paul on the medical question.
Crowd: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LET DR. PAUL SPEAK!
Dr. Paul’s Highlights:
it’s really really bad, just check this collection of ‘events’:
Check This Out La la land
The above should lay out the landscape for a better perspective.
Sub human? In what way?
La ls land and Vinnie
not a dumb human like me but maybe this will work
Crossing my dumb fingers
Well, I don’t think anyone who’s read some of your excellent comments could describe you as dumb by any means, but there are a few questions that come up whenever someone like the writer you refer to proposes them.
First. Do you subscribe to the belief that there are certain unalienable rights we have as individuals that may not be taken from anyone who has harmed no one?
Do you believe there is such a thing as a society, which is something more than a word figment to describe the sum of individuals in a particular area?
Do you believe that this fictional society can in any way lay claims to what individuals have or produce without violating the rights and liberties of those individuals? Do you support the taking of those individuals through the use of force, or threat of force?
Where does the authority arise to use force to take from one individual and give to another and how can you justify such takings without becoming an accessory to the crime of theft?
Things don’t just arise from thin air, nor are they a given like air that we each draw from a common source. What right do we have to believe what belongs to someone else may be taken from him?
Have you ever clearly examined what progressivism really involves, how it preaches and teaches that what’s morally wrong and unacceptable for us to do to each other as individuals is somehow moral and beneficial when an outside agent commits the crime under color of law?
How much production do you think you’ll get when you punish people for being productive and how can you induce them to produce the things everyone wants when they know they won’t be rewarded for their efforts? Who produces more? Slaves or free men?
Does anyone have a right to command the work of another and gain without working for it? Isn’t that itself the essence of slavery? How is that progressive? How does this benefit the larger part of mankind?
What kind of a society would you have if Mr. Lendman’s views prevail? Well, we can see the results when we look at every command and control economy that’s ever been tried. You get tyranny, dictatorship, gulags, poverty and suffering on a far greater scale than anything that you might point at where men are free to produce and keep the full measure of what they earn.
Nothing in this world is ever going to be perfect. There is no end of history, no point where all our wishes and desires are met in this world and no peace until we reach the grave.
So long as men have needs, wants and desires and the world is faced with scarce resources and trade offs, there’ll always be utopians who point to imaginary peaceful futures and who are willing to sacrifice the living for the good of and love for the imaginary unborn.
Ask yourself if they’re realistic, or are they more than likely pathological in that they truly, despite their lofty words and noble causes, hate man in the concrete, embrace death and can only love others in the abstract. Aren’t they willing to sacrifice others who reject their views?
I have no claim on you, nor you on me, but we can come together to work together jointly and to find agreement. and work on the things we can agree on. The use of force by either one of us against the other is impermissible. What makes anyone think that a fictional government can do what we can’t?
What it comes down to is that there can be neither peace nor prosperity until individual liberty is recognized and legalized.
I don’t suscribe to any party or any box you can put a check into. I come here for people like yourself who have passion, heart, & smarts.
My document is the Declaration of Independence. There is a duty therein to carry on liberty’s torches.
The fires are to be passed on.
Well said Robert. We believe the same thing then in that the individual has the liberty to live his or her life to the best of their own talents and abilities. No outside force or violence may ever be used against anyone who isn’t harming anyone else.
I don’t have all the right answers for my own life. How could I possibly be able to judge and tell anyone else how to live or what to do? Same goes for them in regards to me and everyone else.
Those who’d rule over others are truly the ones who are anti-social.
UNalienable rights or INalienable rights, that’s the question. 😉
present at birth
but not necessarily hereditary
Rights from God
that are not lienable.
Rights from the corporate government that can be liened against or taken away at any time. Very much like a ‘privilege’
Really, really visit the following site. If just partially true.. “oh boy”:
This deals with the appartently very deep and far-stretching topic of Common Law vs. Maritime Admiralty Law.
Jaw dropping moments e.g. in coursts. E.g.:
ENGLISH FREEMAN IN COURT PART 1 – PRICELESS
Notice the role of the birth certificate… I do think there is a great tie-in to Babylon’s Banksters in there.. somewhere. wink wink. 🙂
Your link leads to quite a laundry list. What, specifically, do you disagree with. Personally, I am not on board with everything Ron Paul is for, either, (I am pro-choice and don’t like the idea of removing all restrictions on mining, etc.)…but it’s a matter of priorities, as I see it.
I recently described the situation to a progressive friend as arguing about whether the inmates should wear orange jumpsuits or blue in the prison. Our first priority should be to get out of jail!
Unless we remove the “banksters” and their hold on money-creation, we might as well go line up for our tattooed number on our wrist and our chip.
PRIORITIES! First deal with getting rid of the Crown control on everything we do and THEN work out the details about the social issues.
Besides, there is only so much a President can do. They cannot enact laws. They can only influence them. They CAN (seemingly) initiate pre-emptive strikes that the country then always seems to back-up, no matter how wrong. I believe Ron Paul when he says he will not start any wars like we have seen in the past 11 years. The President can also use the prestige (there used to be some) of the Office itself to influence the direction the country should go. And, I wouldn’t have said this a few years ago, they can sign Executive Orders. I feel Ron Paul would not abuse that power and I do believe that he would do his best to unravel the abuse that has already taken place. And I’ll bet he would do a lot of prison pardons for people who should not be locked up, and I don’t mean Mark Rich!
So, given that, I would rather have Ron Paul, whom I feel certain, if elected, will zero in on the Federal Reserve and the debt-based money-creation scam like a pitbull and trust that he will, at least, not be initiating any more wars for empire. He’s got his eyes on the prize and I don’t think he is going to spread himself thin with all those other issues if he actually makes it into the White House. If he can rescue this country from 150-200+ years of behind the scenes financial manipulation, that will be good enough for me!
As for all the other stuff, that would take a lot of legislation, and that would take SOME degree of public approval. I assume that there would then be LOTS of actual discussion going on. Which is better than now, where they say one thing; you vote for them and they do another. It’s not like there is a “Ron Paul” party that will have a House and Senate majority making everything into a “Ron Paul” world. He’s going to have to fight for everything at every step along the way, given that there seems to be a nearly 100% corruption factor among the current elected representatives.
I used to be a far-left progressive…until I woke up to the Illuminati factor (I really don’t know HOW to label the cabal. I struggle with that one). I get the most blowback from my progressive friends, who literally think Ron Paul is insane, and me, too.
But government has gone WAY too far IMHO, and now I would like to see as little of it as possible. Don’t tell me what to do with my body, what to eat, what kind of medicine I must have, what kind of supplements I can take (or not), and that’s just the small stuff! Don’t arrest me with no cause and “rendition” me to some black hole somewhere, indefinitely without even a phone call or a lawyer. Don’t torture me. Don’t play this ridiculous TSA game at the airports (and, coming soon, to nearly everywhere near you!)…and don’t take away my internet! 🙂
I realize I am ranting. I will stop now…
It’s Saturday Night and time for:
An antidote to the week’s ranting madness.
Yes Marc. You’re absolutely right on the money. It’s the commercial credit system that has tricked us into become both the creditors and payee of their alchemical, debt ridden money out of thin air.
The birth certificate starts the ball rolling.
Marc, very deep points.
In fact, I read a book recently that addresses the Maritime Admiralty Law & other issues you bring to bear:
They Own It All(Including You)!: By Means of Toxic Currency by Ronald MacDonald.
Very hard to bring up in conversations, as the depth of understanding, is quite franky, in the ‘cognitive dissonance’ realm/A Babylon Banksters – the devils in the details sphere of understanding/influence.
And more blantant media management today by Fox “news”
Ron Paul cut off the air on Fox News, after calling out media bias
Isnt’ all this very very illegal?!?
Marc, if you haven’t already, put:
With Liberty and Justice For Some by Glenn Greenwald on yor reading list.
“As the Western world has been arguing for decades, the surest sign of an underdeveloped, tyrannical society is just what the United States has now embraced: a setup where political elites are free to break the laws with impunity and never suffer the consequences that ordinary citizens do. Unequal treatment, not legal accountability, is the defining feature of a ‘banana republic’.”
Two neo-con Catholics in the Presidential race seems suspect, especially the recently converted and most loathsome Newt Gingrich. Maybe this is far-fetched, but it could be possible that the neo-cons are trying to shape a a pro-zionist viewpoint in the formerly unsympathetic Catholic community. I don’t recall ever meeting a zionist sympathizer in the Church until the last couple of years as the Fox news brainwashing really started to take hold on the populous. In fact, I remember as a kid in Catholic school how a one armed Palestinian boy, who was the victim of an Israeli bomb attack, was brought into our school and treated as a hero by the Priests and Brothers.
I’ve heard Catholics make up 30% of the US population– A potentially substantial opposition to the war mongering neo-con agenda and one that would have to be assuaged. It would make sense for neo-cons to promote a vile, un-Christian toady like Rick Santorum. Many weak minded Catholics might think this evangelical Christian zionism is part of Catholic thinking as well.
I used to entertain the idea of going to the local ADL office and seeing if I could surreptitiously procure money and aid to start a Catholic zionist movement in my parish. I was going to report to them all the anti-semitic and anti-zionist bigotry in my Church and how I needed to have a well financed organization to fight it. Of course, I was going to take the money and donate it to David Irving’s legal defense fund or spend it on beer..
Since I’ve [almost] never seen a polititian do what
was ‘promised’ during a campaign, but I have
seen bogus hope given to the people in the form
of a [patsy] alternative, and knowing that Dr/Rep Paul
would be taking on the politically impossible as
things do stand at this point in time and history,
I am reluctant to accept his sincerity.
The last person to actually try this was
John Fitzgerald Kennedy !
couldn’t agree with you more
If Ron Paul wins the election, my guess is that he will be killed before inauguration, or “turned” to “their” side (probably threaten the life of just about all family and friends).
He is a willing patsy.
Knows there is no win
I’ve already told myself, if he wins the GOP I would actually go out and vote for him. Still, the process is about choosing the lesser of two evils as opposed to the most qualified.
He would suprisingly enough, have the best chance against Obama!