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Yahweh The Two-Faced God Part Two

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Michael Wolff on February 16, 2012 at 12:39 am

    One important aspect, that is missing in Dr. Farrells discussion about monotheism, is the question about the ‘truth’ of academic historical chronology and the critics written about it in the last decades:

    Anatoly T. Fomenko – “HISTORY: FICTION OR SCIENCE?” is important in this regard. Vol. I – IV are translated in English language already.

    A very interesting book which builds on the theories of Fomenko is

    Robert Grishin / Vladimir Melamed – “THE MEDIEVAL EMPIRE OF THE ISRAELITES”

    This page offers some longer fragments of this book (-> click on the Page III link a little bit down):

    This forum thread in German language has discussion about the cabalistic Messiah formulas which (maybe?) where used in Late Middle Ages / Early Renaissance to compute salvific history.

    • Michael Wolff on February 16, 2012 at 12:45 am

      Link to mentioned German forum thread about “The chronological Messiah-formulas of ‘Open & Closed Ended Time'”:

      Also important in this context is the article


      can be found here:

    • Joseph P. Farrell on February 16, 2012 at 12:52 am

      Neither Dr. de Hart nor I are unaware of the Fomenko attempts at reconstruction of the chronology. We did not employ him because there are so many problems with it that it would take tomes to deal with, and in the final analysis, the effort to do so would be in the end rather wasted, since our book was about basic concepts, not chronological factors. We DO hope, at some point, eventually to turn to chronological matters, but that is quite a way down the line.

      • Michael Wolff on February 16, 2012 at 4:05 am

        Nice to hear that.
        On more link not connected to critic of chronology. It’s a highly interesting treatise of an anonymous writer about religious history of mankind from a ‘spiritual’ perspective. It has much to say about all the topics you examine in your books. But with very interesting ideas I have not read anywhere else: Giza Pyramid (as an ‘Horus incarnation trap’, Old Testament manipulation of people of Israel -> ‘Manipulation of DNA’, Vedic prophecies of apocalyptic times etc. I actually found it more thought-provoking then ‘Genes, Giants, Monsters and Men’.

        Unfortunately only in German language:

        • Gary on February 16, 2012 at 4:37 pm

          Google translator works on this material.

  2. SSNaga on February 15, 2012 at 3:51 am

    The “modern Egyptians” are the Elite & Illuminati, still “whipping” the slaves in Their mines. You will not escape…

  3. Gary on February 14, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    If Yahwehism started 4,000 years ago with Moses and the Exodus out of Egypt, and this is based on the Bible re-written many times, but finally settling with the “Out of Babylon” Ezra version (some 1,700 years later) as the official record. My question is and will always be who was directing Ezra? The Babylonians? The Levites? Could the emergence of Yahwehism be much earlier? Is Yahewhism just another brand name for Elohim or even the Aton God from Egypt? As Freud was asking: was Moses really Hebrew or Egyptian? I sense the root of this is through Egypt visa the Hyksos and brought to light by Akhenaton. Whom some theorize was actually Moses.

    • Nidster - on February 14, 2012 at 5:38 pm

      The pertinent texts say the father was a man from the house of Levi who took as his wife a Levite woman who conceived and bore a son, whom Pharaoh’s daughter named, Moses.

      • Nidster - on February 14, 2012 at 6:12 pm

        Gary, a bit more information regarding that idea that Egypt could be involved in all this…..Genesis 48 is where Israel (Jacob) Blesses Ephraim and Manasseh, sons of Joseph.

        Joesph was the son of Israel (formerly Jacob), the son of Issac, the son of Abraham (formerly, Abram). Now, Ephraim and Manasseh were the two sons of Joesph but who were also Egyptian from their mother’s lineage. When Israel blessed Joesph’s two sons prior to his death, Israel blessed Ephraim, the younger son with his right hand. Thus he put Ephraim before Manasseh. Most people then lose interest in the important future that unfolded centuries later when the 10 northern tribes of Israel were taken into captivity and never returned, thus they are the so-called,10 lost tribes of Israel. Oh, and what was the blessing Israel gave to Ephraim? That his offspring shall become a multitude of nations greater than the people of Manasseh.

        Oh my, did everything just get more complicated?

        • Gary on February 14, 2012 at 7:10 pm

          Nidster–Oh my, did everything just get more complicated?

          Not for me. Without being there I take everything I read and every explanation of what was written as a point in reality but not the whole of reality. But I keep reading and listening to explanations of what was written into my own current state of awareness. And sometimes it changes every so slightly at my age. Thanks

          • Nidster - on February 14, 2012 at 7:38 pm

            You are wise.

            For me it seems to be a sound reason to keep researching why the modern nation of Israel’s current occupant’s are comprised of only 2 of the 12 tribes of Israel. Plus, there’s that Egyptian angle too. Curious why we never hear/read much about where the modern Egyptians reside these days. Thanks

        • spiritsplice on February 15, 2012 at 7:47 am

          Also remember that Psalm 83 (among others) tells of how the Northern tribes would lose their identity and forget who they were, only to be replaced by “others”” who would falsely take up their title as Israel (Balfour anyone?).This sentiment is echoed in Revelation speaking of those who say they are Judah (Israel) and are not.

          • Nidster - on February 15, 2012 at 10:25 am


    • Jedi on February 14, 2012 at 8:50 pm

      ahknenaten is moses…

      They killed Tut, and returned to multiple god worship.

      • Gary on February 15, 2012 at 3:50 am

        But they killed Tut (he also changed his name after his father was tossed out of Egypt) because he brought back the multiple gods and Amun. Just my opinion.

        • Jedi on February 15, 2012 at 5:24 am

          Murderers write the records,. I interpret his sons name as Nutankhaten….and killing his father is a lot easier than it sounds.

          Remarkable that it was the only intact tomb…..another divine coincidence.

          • Jedi on February 15, 2012 at 5:52 am

            a lot harder than it sounds, the man was a Pharaoh and passed the tests required of a Pharaoh when his stepfather died.
            He was not the priests choice…..he must of razzled dazzled them with some high tech abra ka dabra.

            Too bad the slaves couldnt be content with freedom, and the truth…and so a little bribe and
            some anal probes by the men in black robes and all is restored….temporarily.

            what is on top will be on bottom and no stone will be left unturned

  4. Steve Campbell on February 14, 2012 at 10:42 am

    Doesn’t this interview with both Drs. Farrell and DeHart only reemphasize the truth of Jesus’ words “Love thy neighbor as thyself”?

    Yes, I once made the comment at an open-to-the-public gathering of theologians that “Isn’t the God of the Old Testament schizophrenic? On the one hand we have the Ten Commandments, where God told Moses “thou shalt not kill” (meaning murder) and on the other hand throughout a good deal of the rest of the OT, God instructs the Hebrews to murder just about everything in sight.” (paraphrased) None of those on the panel would address my question, although later, when mingling with audience members, one of them agreed with me that the question was a good one.

    So, regarding my opening question, the New Testament, or least the words attributed to Jesus, does give us a basic and eternal understanding of the core of Christianity.
    No doubt that message has been twisted (Scofield Reference Bible) for certain agendas.

    In sum, although I haven’t read the book yet, but intend to, my sense is that in a very good attempt to discredit the OT, or more properly speaking, the religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam that purportedly sprung from a common source, ie. Abraham, the authors appear to be throwing the baby out with the bath water.

    What is not mentioned is that the Pharisaic Judaism that Jesus railed against as the Synagogue of Satan, that which is exemplified and discoursed upon in the Babylonian Talmud and what has morphed, I think, into the Anti-Christ movement for total dominion over everything, through every life-destroying method ever conceived, is staring us in the face.

    • Jim Lee on February 14, 2012 at 11:51 am

      The New Testament says Jesus was a Rabbi so in that context he was never a Christian. He also supposedly said ” the Father and I are one” and “ÿou hasve seen me you have seen the father”

      • Nidster - on February 14, 2012 at 7:03 pm

        Yeshua said, “They (scribes and the Pharisees) do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi by others. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.”

        Yeshua said to her, “Mary (Mary Magdalene).” She turned and said to him in Aramaic,“Rabboni!” (which means Teacher).

        Then a few years later: “Now those who were scattered because of the persecution…Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul, and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught a great many people. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians.”

        • spiritsplice on February 15, 2012 at 7:52 am

          Should be Joshua not Yeshua.

          • Nidster - on February 15, 2012 at 11:49 am

            I was using, Yeshua because the letter “J” is not in the Hebrew alphabet. Some people are offended by the Greek translation. They claim, Jesus, as best I understand it, means “Hey Horse”.

            Yeshua (ye-SHOO-a) Translated in the Greek as Jesus, and Yeshua ben-Yosef (ye-SHOO-a ben-yo-SEIF) in the Greek is Jesus son of Joseph.

            Yehoshua (ye-HOH-shu-ah) successor to Moses, in the Greek, Joshua.

            Thanks for the feedback.

    • Nidster - on February 14, 2012 at 5:27 pm

      So, are Jesus’ words the truth we all need to live by? “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. John 13:34-35

      Perhaps the form of Judaism that was railed against is revealed in the following texts WHEN one considers the various Creation stories that abound, especially in regards to lower-life entities such as, Enki.

      Matthew 3:7 “But when he (John the Baptist) saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Or, Jesus’ prophecies regarding the Seven Woes that would come upon the Scribes and Pharisees: Matthew 23:33 is #7, “You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?”

  5. Eddie88 on February 14, 2012 at 10:35 am

    Oxford grad:
    “a new interview with Dr de Hart and I”
    Where I went to school, we learned:
    “a new interview with Dr de Hart and me”

    • Joseph P. Farrell on February 14, 2012 at 6:18 pm

      lol…thanks for the correction Eddie. Difficult as always to keep the Queen’s English! 🙂

      • Robert Barricklow on February 15, 2012 at 6:52 pm

        Her Majesty’s Rag is now known as The New York Times.
        (I couldn’t resist)

    • spiritsplice on February 15, 2012 at 7:54 am

      Eddie, you learned incorrect English then.

  6. Daniel Jones on February 14, 2012 at 7:05 am

    As someone who feels like he knows Dr. de Hart through another [Dr.], it was definitely a pleasure to hear your voice. Your story was both elegant and subtle. Good job.

  7. SSNaga on February 14, 2012 at 12:59 am

    I Am unable to disclose the Actual Superstructure of Indomintable Control of Earth’s humanity, for these masses have been genetically & energetically Programmed to be “UnSeeing” of this Element. I have tried… but pigs & monkeys have a better chance. Intellectualism is a laughable beast of self-supporting Ignorance & Innocence, and this cannot be repaired without Both self-Effort & Grace. Those who “push” past the emplaced blockades of self-destructive Ignorance & Innocence (of Creational Law), find themselves in A Strange Land, as newborn babes. This does not emancipate their kind, but instead alienates them from their more common sisters/brothers. The crystallized (physical entrainment) half-self & the formative (energetically cognitive, equally entrained) half-self are Opposing Poles of sSelf, called Seperation, that humanity is unable to Merge together. Those few who can & Do, are anathema to the “worshipful” physically entrained: this is equally so with the energetically entrained, who become stricken with “passivity in the lie-ght,” as they unkowingly have landed in ‘”the Arms that Are Waiting for them,.” i.e,. the Illuminati 4D Version. Thus, The CORE Awareness is Blocked, both Naturally (WORD Emanation Law) & Artificially (EL’s “OverWrite” or “Grid OverLay” of WORD Law). The Principal of CORE (Third Self) Awareness is “OverRide” of these Two (dual) antagonistic/paradoxic self-states (self-types). Sweeping awareness of the machinations of the Inhuman Masters of humanity is Requisite, but which is Inaccessible, except in the rarest, most anomalous few: these are those who have Yoked the dual states & achieved The Penetralia. These 3rd types are not worshipped by either the physical or energetic polarized types… rather, thy are vilified &, if “caught,” destroyed. … The site blog topics & contents are as “diversional” of The CORE Awareness as are the Elite’s Directives… which does not elucidate the problem of Seperation, merely enhances it. Sad, but so. You, kind, mostly intelligent people, are self-Doomed by flailing Hope, deVoid of WORD Law. Worse, Behind WORD Law, Is The PreEXistent S-WORD, from which both “Nothing & All” Derive, and of which few have any Direct Awareness. Ready for your “awakening?” : You will Not Escape… either your dual selves, or your implacable Masters. Worse yet, you Wouldn’t if you Could. “Mind is the enslaver.” Now, Exemplify these Statements! Or, Realize: you have been “Taken;” Nullfied, as helpless slaves within a Box. (Would you like to see a diagram of ‘”the real Box?” Ask… I’ve got it waiting.)

    • Sean on February 14, 2012 at 7:26 am

      I would like to see this diagram of “the real box” if you don’t mind?

      • SSNaga on February 14, 2012 at 7:30 am

        Excellent. Will post the link this evening (watch for it).

      • SSNaga on February 14, 2012 at 8:37 pm

        The “real Box” –

        Cubed self –

        The Circle Squares & Crystallizes:

        The Circle – Triple Self
        WithIn – withOut (Dual Magnetic-Electric selves + Neutral/Androgynous Higher Self); CORE (Black/Clear) –

        You Fall WithOut – You Rise WithIn – Yoke At The Center.

        • Jedi on February 15, 2012 at 6:18 am

          ah…what about the box within the box, a hex, represented by the star of david…….all within the circle of life.

          it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich merchant to enter into the kingdom of god.

          • SSNaga on February 15, 2012 at 7:05 am

            The Inner Sun is Lyt by the HeXaGram… It is The Lyght of 100 SunS… also referred to as “Raising The Son.” I Achieved This, and have sought to convey How Any may achieve it. The Naga presented the Method: The Silver-Gold Dual Spirals Bring Forth the Diamond Lyght that Does Not Freeze (canamayte). … The Two Come Together As One. … Reading & “thinking you know,” is the dead Letter. DO, & Know. … Near Simultaneously. The InEffAble Descends — unlike anything ever spoken or described, AnyWhere. This Must Be sSelf-EXperienced. … The Box self Reveals the HeXaGramic Truth: “What Is On Bottom Will Be On Top.” The LYght of The eYe is The DoOoR. … PSsst – Reason is the Snare of Illusion… Move to no avail: the Traveler goes from one Green Pasture to Another, until it drops, eXhausted (the body/mindslave). You are all moving multilaterally, the CUBEd. None can Free Another (sSelf-Process). $$/Self.

          • Jedi on February 15, 2012 at 7:31 am

            the problem with people is they think there ancestors were dumb sitting squatters,
            Not there fault really, and it is not Franks fault either, people follow the bad shepherds for the free lunch equates to trust.
            and get arrogant with there ignorance…right off of the cliff every time….just like poor flipper
            You say it is lunatic this artificial construct, but it has its moments.

          • SSNaga on February 15, 2012 at 8:00 am

            Your Quote, e.g.: “it is easier for a camel to pass through the eYe of a needle than a rich merchant to enter The KingDom of Paradise” (paraphrase), is A Default focus, meant to mislead Correct Attention. The quote was only Half completed; here is the Other Half: “Yet the Rich Wo/Man may Pass Through Effortlessly.” … “For it is a very true saying (snip), The Thing which causeth Riches, (such as Natural Wisdom) is supplied instead of Riches” (capitals as presented; “Aesch Mezareph, Purifying Fire,” trans. 1714). … Many of the “Ancestors” had Access, which was targeted, successfully. The Median (Middle) Leap is Required to Achieve The FreeDom of The REAL. The Spark of The ARC Fires Up to The Center (see, Itzhak Bentov’s “Egg Universe” youtube vid. Ponder Well).

          • Jedi on February 15, 2012 at 8:35 am

            The quote is complete, and is not misleading, the second part is the whore of babylon….who lives deliciously off of the blood of the saints, her glass filled to the double. or….yin left nothing for yang.

            That is the fall of man, removed from the garden which was guarded by a flaming sword.
            The birth and the significance of the baptism, Ephesians 5;11

          • Jedi on February 15, 2012 at 9:13 am

            (see, Itzhak Bentov’s “Egg Universe” youtube vid. Ponder Well).

            Thats the beauty of the babylon banksters, a bunch of babblers. He gets part of it, and goes on tour.

          • SSNaga on February 15, 2012 at 9:28 am

            Book touters cannot Understand Nor Know Truth. Poor lad, Richness Is From WithIn. … (Off to mass you go).

          • Jedi on February 15, 2012 at 9:55 am

            I have never been too THE SLAUGHTERHOUSE church, too be anally probed by those men in black robes, you know a bit SSNaga, but dont let your arrogance seal your ignorance. The bible is all written in code and only those with divine assistance can see through it.

            I gave you a little hint, now go off and look at squatting man, and if you are up with your electro magnetic knowledge ponder that.
            That moran thinks it is the goose that laid the golden egg, just like Hitler who goose steped across europe with his clones laid a golden egg and ole Ike with his purim whore as a secretary launched order 66 with operation neptune……a bunch of morons trying to figure out teaching they will never be allowed to understand. NEVER.

          • SSNaga on February 15, 2012 at 10:50 am

            The Code is A DisToRted Reflection, cunningly displayed. You haven’t a Clue (yet). If fact, your very dia-Tribe reveals you’re a born & bred slave of the “Banksters & low-priests” you pretend to so disavow. You behave & speak Precisely as They programmed you to (in the “mass” of bedazzled life). … There is ‘”a place” prepared for such, Indeed… In the Arms of your Dual Masters of Disguise

          • Jedi on February 15, 2012 at 12:01 pm

            You got a problem with the Bible take it up with “the man”….as for the bad shepherds and there feathered friends, that is where free will comes in.
            The key to the code is the keyhole afterall.

  8. terrylee3000 on February 13, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    Nice to hear the voice of Dr. Scott De Hart finally. I loved the way he spoke about you smoking up the whole house with tobacco, wringing your hands, saying, yes, no maybe so, and finally after so many years to reveal a discrepancy that you found so profoundly wrong but had not had the courage to speak about until now, is breathtaking. I find the discussion on morality so energetically refreshing and a direction that has been so dearly guarded by political correctness and a denial of a very obvious and inert thing in a compassionate mind. Religion does not give us the tools we need to express profound sorrow with loss, to intellectually assess the casualty of war. In fact, as I understand it, in your book, which I have not read, please forgive me, the scriptures in so many ways discuss a perversion of original motivation and guide one toward an abyss of confusion. Intentionally, I might add. Again a programming principal. Thought is so necessary and should be dearly guarded. It is instrumental in sorting out the problems we face every day, whether with our families or with what comes down the polluted pike of mainstream media. George Anne is so lovely the way she speaks in such a shy and ladylike manner. She brings out the best in you boys. A true lady. By the way I smoke the peace pipe and totally enjoy tobacco. I find it invigorates my mind and makes me ponder. I would rather die of lung cancer than in a field of poppies.

    • Dr. Scott D. de Hart on February 14, 2012 at 6:19 pm

      Many thanks for the comments. Those days with Dr. Farrell which were decades ago now seem as if they were yesterday … and to some degree they are the continuation of those conversations.Thank you.

      • Joseph P. Farrell on February 14, 2012 at 9:44 pm

        Yes they do seem like yesterday my friend… we’ve talked about so much, people would be astonished. Thank you again!

  9. MQ on February 13, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    In somehow-you-know-it’s-got-to-be-related-news, strange, very heavy metal boxes end up on Oregon beaches.

  10. Mark Anthony on February 13, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Interesting article about Zbig’s new book…

  11. marcos anthony toledo on February 13, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    I will give something to yhink about what the tie in between Lucifer and Prometheus could both stories be talking about the same being just from a different angle just asking. A great interview with Dr.De-Hart by the way.

    • Dr Scott D de Hart on February 13, 2012 at 9:26 pm

      Thank you and quite astute observation! I am writing a book touching this subject even now and expect it finished by June. This is a particular special interest of mine that is teased out just slightly in our Transhumanism book due out this year but what is coming is going to push the limits quite a bit. Do a reading once again of Shelley’s works and be prepared for some shocking ideas. Again, thank you.

      • spiritsplice on February 15, 2012 at 8:10 am

        It is also worth noting that in the LXX, the same word is used to describe Lucifer as is used to describe Jesus in the NT. Mostly this is glossed over but I have always felt a connection exists in the morning star reference. I believe there is also a connection with Venus in there as well.

  12. jonathan on February 13, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    i don’t see the interview anywhere on the site….

    • jonathan on February 13, 2012 at 7:10 pm

      ooops nevermind, i went there as soon as you had posted the update, had to wait a little bit longer it’s up there now 🙂

  13. Father Krespi on February 13, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Maybe, as one of the progenitors of the Nazis in space theory, you can one day discuss the promulgation of this new genre in the art world:

    from the Berlin Film fest:,1518,815002,00.html

    • Father Krespi on February 13, 2012 at 4:18 pm

      The space Nazis are like the Great Pumpkin and many of us desperately hope fro their return to rescue us from WWII’s unsavory victors.

      • Nidster - on February 13, 2012 at 7:46 pm

        Whoa!!! Father. That seems to be too much like ‘out of the pot and into the fire”? We are not that desperate are we?

        • Father Krespi on February 14, 2012 at 8:34 am

          Yeah, you are probably right. The Nazis are just a Frankenstein monster of the Babylon banksters.

          • SSNaga on February 14, 2012 at 9:02 am

            The real Monster is the Ignorant dr. Frankenstein… EXtant.

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