THE AMERIKAN BANANA REPUBLIC
Mr. V.T. shared this article with me, and I enjoyed it so much I had to share it here, not the least of which becuase I have been blogging the last few days about corruption of one sort or another, from everything including faked bonds in massive amounts, to ridiculous clams that human stem cells are drugs, to agribusiness and court cases. Well, Philip Giraldi has stated the case very well:
Corruption and the Citizen, American-Style
For me, the central points in Giraldi's insightful article are these:
"So the question becomes, why do the American people put up with the venality and outright criminality that seem to have become part and parcel of our polity? Well, it could easily be argued that most Americans have been sold a bill of goods and, in exchange for material comforts and empty assurances, are quite comfortable in having their liberties stripped from them."
True enough: most Americans are fat, silly, and either just plain too stupid to see what is being done to them in the name of the national security banana republic this nation has become, or if they're not, they are acquiescent in it because of the high degree of luxury and comfort in which we live. But what happens if that were suddenly swept away? If the supermarkets were no longer full of food, if the water was no longer potable, if the shelves of Walmart were no longer filled with Chinese trinkets? What would happen if the empire failed?
Perhaps, just perhaps, then they would wake up and blame the very elites that promised both guns and butter, and gave them dust. But what if they wake up before then? What should they do? I am bold to suggest that they should educate themselves as much as possible, that they should create the culture, and ignore the culture they are spoon fed from the media, the government, and the corporate cleptocrats spinning it.
Then Giraldi puts his finger on the problem, at least, the political problem in this country: the monopoly of Dummycrookery and Republithuggery on the political process:
"We the people now have little real power even if every two years we are allowed to choose between two different forms of the same despotism at the ballot box."
But Giraldi then, unexpectedly, advocates not a third party (which would really be but a second political party), but something akin to "revolutionary martyrdom":
"Thomas Jefferson said that “Every generation [of Americans] needs a new revolution.” The American people must be prepared to defend to the death their rights against all comers, including their own government."
I find such thoughts dangerous at best, and a bit short-sighted at worst, since Amerika's problems are not, in my opinion, political, and therefore, not fixable by political means, revolutionary or otherwise. They are cultural. We live in a country that has lost all cultural grip on reality, that can in one breath glorify rappers and Mozart as musical geniuses, that can create a glut of "reality TV" shows whose subtle meme is for the individual to bow to the tyranny of simple majorities, that can glorify the doggerel of rap music lyrics in the same breath as the poetry of Whitman or Angelou. After all, if we were to have such a revolution, what would be the culture we would like to see emerge? Our constitution and civil liberties emerged from a unique culture, created over hundreds of years, a mixture of rationalism, skepticism, institutions and concepts in jurisprudence and philosophy, that most Amerikans are now simply clueless about. The long term solution remains, in my mind, the imperative to create a culture apart from the mechanisms controlled by the elites that have given us this mess.
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You can see the attitude of the elite toward the common citizen put forth in media: witness the characters portrayed in sitcoms and other TV shows, and especially in movies like Wall-E – where we are portrayed as “useless slurpers,” who can’t even walk anymore (due mostly to the food and medical industry, no doubt).
Of course, we are charged for that privilege. Kind of like having to pay to get into Auschwitz………
In fact, almost like Auschwitz as a Disney attraction……..
In the US, we have been the victims of a steady march toward becoming a “concentration camp” nation, with a highly controlled information flow, food supply, medical experimentation, and forced labor to produce wealth for the elite. I can see the fistprint of Nazis clearly on the history of the US since WW2, and i would be willing to bet that a study of corporate influence in all of our institutions would point directly to the structures created by Borman in 1944.
Perhaps we should rename the US “New Auschwitz….”
Well, here’s another nice mess you’ve gotten me into.
Daniel, Legio and Joseph,
Non participation in ‘the system’ has to be the process. The question is how to achieve mass refusal to participate? I guess i am inspired by Jesus here ‘you who are without sin throw the first stone’ and the stone was never thrown.
I wonder if the ‘superconsciousness’ meme we see online could become that vehicle? The issue would be awareness and understanding to the effect that millions chose to stop listening to the elites, stop buying their materials, stop fighting their wars.
I know that this ‘superconsciousness’ meme may well be controlled or guided by the elites (Joseph am I preempting you ‘Transhumanism’ book?). Maybe it could turn on the elites-humans have deep need for freedom.
HELLO. I will answer this as I am at least half way through the process. I have canceled nearly all federal contracts I have signed up for save the SS# and universe has prodded, so I’ll have to record the POA over that SS account next week. I have stopped identifying my self or my status us a US CITIZEN, this is first step. This is open admission to complete consent to the CORP and what it does. I do vote for lessor of any evils!
I now identify as a Citizen of my State in their systems but in mine. Currently I also started my non participation in the banking system which forms the foundation of my college education (finance/economics). I studied the legal system post BSBA for the last 5 years. I have sent my final letter to my college loan company indicating I know how they defrauded me, I detailed the fraud and I said I ask you to please point out where I am wrong.
I cite FED reserve bank literature with some USC/Fair Credit Collection Acts including the specific eye of Horus to walk through and I get non signed, non honorable responses that ignore my simple questions thus violating the specific law cited they must operate under. I just got the final response from CHASE and they respectively surrendered, even saying we wont respond anymore. Awesome, let me send my final letter indicating I accept your refusal as default thereby I have no legal or financial obligation to you, don’t contact me ever again 🙂
They sell to third party, they are interlopers and have no standing, I let em know this and if they respond with stupidity I notice them with a fee schedule for violating my privacy 🙂 I am done with them, if you can not tell.
The final nail in this coffin are the credit agencies, the final gatekeepers. (man the pirates trilogy is about so much more than pirates, read the script sometime and take out a pencil, school was in session throughout!) These are even simpler, sending them letters including ALL copies of the letters, certified returns receipts indicating you disputed some charges and needed resolution and they refused to honor your request and accepted that I did not owe them. So you keep this libel in place and I’ll pursue civil action to the fullest extent (it helps to include a fee schedule for what happens, so they are honorably NOTICED). Generally 30 days later or thereabouts, it vanishes…
What else do you want to know? (Disclaimer for those who need one, this is LEGAL RESEARCH not advice!)
Some of you may have issues because i’m not paying my obligations but this is the simple secret. I CAN NOT PAY, I CAN ONLY DISCHARGE…look it up, post 1933 this debt based wonderland reversed every thing! Gold/SILVER are the mediums of exchange honored under the CONSTITUTION. But we dont use that now do we? So does the CONSTITUTION even exist anymore? We wont go there today…since 1933, I CAN NOT PAY YOU, the ABILITY to PAY DEBTS was terminated due to our BANKRUPTCY. We have been in recievership and guess what, the charter for the BANK that did this comes due in 2013 🙂
SO how is MONEY created? Your signature signed to a piece of paper with a few key phrases and words transforms it into a CREDIT INSTRUMENT. Money is created every single day in a bank down the street, not by THE FED or THE TREASURY, that is the BASE MONEY to PYRAMID and PONZI with. The banking SYSTEM then through RATIOS (NOT GOLDEN!) pyramids this base money at the street level using PROMISSORY NOTES.
HERE IS THE 3 CARD MONTE in ACTION!
You sign piece of paper without this knowledge. They accept your promise and turn your signature into money, your signature created the money to FUND whatever you wanted. They are not loaning you money, check modern money mechanics fed website, page PG6 –
“Of course, they [the banks] do not really pay out loans from the money they receive as deposits. If they did this, no additional money would be created. What they do when they make loans is to accept promissory notes in exchange for credits to the borrower’s transaction accounts.”
SO they don’t loan THEIR money, they LOAN YOUR MONEY BACK TO YOU AND DEMAND VIG for the PRIVELAGE! You’ve been defrauaded by you are too ignorant to know it and morally you’ve been programmed through church, society, peers, parents, SCHOOL and various other information channels that all demand you do what? Honor your WORD! Hmmm…I have to honor my word, I accept, however I do not accept when I have been swindled through ignorance and willful deceit at the highest levels. This isn’t between me and local banker, this is the setup, they are just following the rules and perhaps you feel I am obligated, in spite of my ignorance to keep paying. I’ll let you do that for me while I got find another way to not participate in these “systems”…
One Love brothers and sisters!
HAHAHAHA…I DO NOT VOTE FOR LESSOR OF EVILS!!!!!! LOL!
Patrick, the law is what judges says it is and what they’ve said is its impossible to give up your US citizenship within the United States. You must go abroad and then walk into a US Consulate in order to take an Oath of Renunciation witnessed by a consular officer (plus pay a $425 fee). Anything short of that, you’re still a citizen, sorry.
You can disagree, but don’t be surprised when Uncle Sam wins that argument.
Interesting insights Matt, it makes me wonder if we are in an analogous situation now with what once was the printing press at Gutenberg. Hence, you had a fight to control Gutenberg and publishing houses, and now we have a fight to control the internet.
yes it is an interesting situation. I wonder what will happen to religious and cultural ‘lines’ as the internet ‘supercosciousness’ develops. I guess dictators have to become a whole lot cleverer than what we see at present.
Having said that, having a dumbed-down generation that skim reads and does not, or cannot think deeply (I see the affect of chemical foods, medications etc at work here) and is only moved to ‘popular’ action when a nice video clip pops on the FB page, is a real concern.
Absolutely is starts with mass non-participation, it can not otherwise. All we can do at this stage is to continue to try to wake up the people around us to this Elitist Mirage. As that happens the ball gets really rolling. As you quoted Dr Farrell below about the fall of communism, it has happened before and so it can happen again.
As for those people who believe that the elites will just sick the army and the police on the people, think again. As a former soldier I have some experience in a situation like this. Matt and other Aussies here will well remember the Patrick Stevedores episode, where the docks went on strike and the whole country was brought to a stand still.
Many were the rumours flowing around my unit that we soldiers would be called upon to go down to the docks and break it up by force. Our officers, NCO’s and OR’s were all discussing the situation. Some wanted to go down and crack some skulls, some wanted nothing to do with it while the majority were willing to be influenced either way. However the majority of the company I was in ended up being against such an action, we felt that it would be an illegal order and we would not follow it. Whether this influenced higher ups, I don’t know but no order came down.
So I can tell you that if an order came down for military suppression of the populace, in every rifle platoon there will be 5 men willing to follow the order blindly, there will be 5 men who are vehemently opposed and the 20 others will be unsure but more likely to be against. So the elites can not count on having the police and the army onside, they know this and for them, I believe, it is a last resort. Despite what you see in movies and such, most soldiers are unlikely to point rifles at their own people.
Spot on. Asa former CO, my training in military ethics was founded on the concept of legal and illegal orders. There would have been no way for those under me to receive an order that constituted the use of force. I would much rather have delayed an order than implement one.
Having said, non of my CO’s would ever have followed or given such an order. We are blessed in Australia that our military is greatly separated from civil leadership. Private security forces on the other hand are a very different ball game.
I do know of a lot of ex-SASR and Commandos that have worked with these people and then returned to the Army because of the vile nature of these private firms.
‘Private security forces on the other hand are a very different ball game.’
That’s very true mate but mercs will break and run long before soldiers do. The money just isn’t worth it.
True. I just wonder how many of them are working only for the money? At what point do we start seeing mercenaries with a ‘doctrine’. I have heard the odd strange rumour about this phenomenon. Food for thought……
They certainly could be trying to set up a modern Waffen SS, the politically indoctrinated soldier. Incidentally I view the US Marines as an example of this. That’s why having them in NT worries me greatly. There is always more than meets the eye.
My thoughts exactly. Doing cross words with them was always fun ‘Three letter word for luminous body”………’ahh babe?’
Sorry to our American friends, we Aussies can’t resist taking the piss out of the Marines, it’s just too easy to do.
Haha it’s like that Mike Adam’s spoof recruitment add for the TSA,
‘No IQ is too low’.
Sorry too to our American friends, Australians will take the piss out of anything.
Growing up in europe and being forced to move to this country I would hazard to repeat my oft repeated phrase that America has never had, and still does not have a culture. This is the main problem, as you so pointed out, and one that I have been aware of since I was a kid.
We are fake plastic parasites. Part of the problem is hte country is too young. but the other part of it is true culture is kept underground by a heavy handed governmental system and the educational system that is ridiculously short of effect.
The other day an Authority Figure (i cant name names or even positions) said to me which war was the one with hitler?
We need to fix our educational system before we even worry about ‘culture’
“People don’t want to be free. Freedom is frightening. Remember that.” (anon)
Thomas Wolfe, from You Can’t Go Home Again, (1940):
I believe that we are lost here in America, but I believe we shall be found. And this belief, which mounts now to the catharsis of knowledge and conviction, is for me—and I think for all of us—not only our own hope, but America’s everlasting, living dream. I think the life which we have fashioned in America, and which has fashioned us—the forms we made, the cells that grew, the honeycomb that was created—-was self-destructive in its nature, and must be destroyed. I think these forms are dying, and must die, just as I know that America and the people in it are deathless, undiscovered, and immortal, and must live.
I think the true discovery of America is before us. I think the true fulfillment of our spirit, of our people, of our mighty and immortal land, is yet to come. I think the true discovery of our own democracy is still before us. And I think that all these things are certain as the morning, as inevitable as noon. I think I speak for most men living when I say that our America is Here, is Now, and beckons on before us, and that this glorious assurance is not only our living hope, but our dream to be accomplished.
I think the enemy is here before us, too. But I think we know the forms and faces of the enemy, and in the knowledge that we know him, and shall meet him, and eventually must conquer him is also our living hope. I think the enemy is here before us with a thousand faces, but I think we know that all his faces wear one mask. I think the enemy is single selfishness and compulsive greed. I think the enemy is blind, but has the power of the blind grab. I do not think the enemy was born yesterday, or that he grew to manhood forty years ago, or that he suffered sickness and collapse in 1929, or that we began without the enemy, and that our vision faltered, that we lost the way, and suddenly were in his camp. I think the enemy is old as Time and evil as Hell, and that he has been here with us from the beginning. I think he stole our earth from us, destroyed our wealth, and ravaged and despoiled our land. I think he took our people and enslaved them, that he polluted the fountains of our life, took unto himself the rarest treasures of our own possessions, took our bread and left us with a crust, and, not content, for the nature of the enemy is insatiate—tried finally to take from us the crust.
I think the enemy comes to us with the face of innocence and says to us: “I am your friend.”
I think the enemy deceives us with false words and lying phrases, saying: “See, I am one of you—I am one of your children, your son, your brother, and your friend. Behold how sleek and fat I have become—and all because I am just one of you, and your friend. Behold how rich and powerful I am—and all because I am one of you—shaped in your way of life, of thinking, of accomplishment. What I am, I am because I am one of you, your humble brother and your friend. “Behold,” cries Enemy, “the man I am, the man I have become, the thing I have accomplished—and reflect. Will you destroy this thing? I assure you that it is the most precious thing you have. It is yourselves, the projection of each of you, the triumph of your individual lives, the thing that is rooted in your blood, and native to your stock, and inherent in the traditions of America. It is the thing that all of you may hope to be,” says Enemy, “for”—humbly—“am I not just one of you? Am I not just your brother and your son? Am I not the living image of what each of you may hope to be, would wish to be, would desire for his own son? Would you destroy this glorious incarnation of your own heroic self? If you do, then,” says Enemy, “you destroy yourselves—you kill the thing that is most gloriously American, and in so killing, kill yourselves.”
He lies! And now we know he lies! He is not gloriously, or in any other way, ourselves.
He is not our friend, our son, our brother. And he is not American! For although he has a thousand familiar and convenient faces, his own true face is old as Hell.
Look about you and see what he has done.
“This renaissance of culture sounds an awful lot like the messianic thinking you rail against. It isnt going to happen, people don’t want it.”
Why is that? A renaissance of culture is at best a peaceful dialogue between folks that wish to do the Platonic turn with the effect of realization that they all have vast continents of ignorance in their psyche that needs to be filled (to paraphrase one philosopher), and at worst it seems only to be passively aggressive towards the culture it views as patently destructive, and therefore, it only wishes to defend itself as to not confirm the victim-perpetrator bond. Renaissance is not a reformation (in the protestant sense) nor is it a revolution that promotes the movements and slow advancements of nihilism. I’ll hang my hat on that, but will you and will you walk with me?
As an atheist I never used to believe in what I termed to be ‘spiritual stuff’. I am still an atheist but my mind is now much more open to other ideas. I will take that walk my friend.
Then we will walk together to be sure and we will realize–I hope in time–that there is ‘nothing’ that seperates us except that one of us chooses to capitalize that word with a capital “N,” which in my mind is to state something quite profound between us.
I noticed the people who cry the most for change are the least powerful in the world! No power at all. (the one’s that are crying the most – nobody around hears them for most part they are on the other side of the WORLD!)
While the one’s with Power (take the Billionaires for example) have their stash and look upon change as either risky or detrimental. Many of them strive ( and unlike the powerless they have excellent means to take action and accomplish something (stop change) rather than the powerless who dream or contemplate a paradigm that only exists in their heads which has an effect on practically or absolutely nothing!)
Does anyone remember that episode in the old Twilight Zone about the Latin Revolutionary who took over the government. Every time he looked into this weird mirror he saw the face of the ONE who is the next to take his place!
I think we need some form of world institution that can regulated the abuses of Capital like what was done in the past before this current deregulation craze.
I just don’t see this happening any time soon in the near future?
What is interesting is the UNEXPECTED!
If your an Optimist (I aint) then you could say a TRANSFORMATION if that is in the tea leaves will be SOMETHING totally unlike anything we can know or expect or even understand?
I know one problem with this “DECADENT culture theme is the lack of any TRUE IMAGINATION! It tempted the Intellectuals in Hitler’s Time. Will it tempt us again? ( I am revealing my own powerlessness )
First one has to remove the ipod/iphone plugs—and disconnect in general from the grid that makes one a link in the chain of mimetic deisire.
It IS useless to theorize “what must be done” to save society. Far too grandiose to ever be accomplished. For if we did overcome the elites today, they would reappear tomorrow.
Man is flawed and a flawed instrument cannot fix itself. One can only hope to help another in need. This is the redemption of man. Focus on need not on change.
There are no flaws in nature, only opportunities for growth…
CORRECTION! Nature Is ImBalance That Is Self-Correcting. Thus: Impetus-Entropy… Entropy Is The Correcting Inherency. It is the One Law that All Nature (Terrestrial & Cosmic) Cannot Displace nor Dispose of. Regardless what academic “astuteness” may believe or at times “teach” – “Go” Is Countered with “Stop,”‘ you may be Assured. Sort of like: “WHOOPS!” “Creator/ess – Preserver – Destroyer.” Human though & belief are an explicit EXample. D U A L
Yin/Yang comes to mind…
And I just reread that…focus on need not change…um, I figured this one out EARLY in life, the only CONSTANT in life is CHANGE 🙂 Needs Change 🙂 Change even changes 🙂
But I don’t disagree; help your fellow huMANs in need…
I may have this upside down but if I remember Plato Death is the UNCHANGING, permanent Good. It is Life that is transitory hence imperfect and temporal? Or, Life as an Interstice (a disjunction) between Eternity! Or Life as an IN-CONTINUITY between Continuity which is the Greatest Good! (is this a negative or a double-negation? Where are the teachers/mentors when one needs one?)
G’ day Romanmel and all,
‘It IS useless to theorize “what must be done” to save society. Far too grandiose to ever be accomplished. For if we did overcome the elites today, they would reappear tomorrow.’
With respect, it is not useless at all to theorize about better systems. It has been done and implemented many times before ie Athenian Democracy and the early US republic. Where it falls down is quite simple, we tend to relax our vigilance towards tyranny. We get too comfortable and are no longer on our guard. This can be prevented. So no it is not useless to plan for better things.
Otherwise then what do we do? Sit back and accept it? Do we raise our children to be slaves to the corrupt system and never to hope for true freedom? Do we influence our grandchildren to accept being born in bondage? Do we cast aside all hopes of freedom?
One of my favourite quotations from the ancient world is from Pericles funeral oration at the end of the first year of the Peloponnesian War. He told the Athenians ‘Your empire is like a tryanny’ as true then as it is today. We do live under a tyranny and it is a very hard task to do anything about it. This system has taken thousands of years to bring us under control. However as it has been built so it can be torn down. There is never no hope.
‘Man is flawed and a flawed instrument cannot fix itself’.
Is this really true? Or have we only been told this for thousands of years and have come to think of it as being true?
Are we really merely an instrument? A tool for ‘those who know better’ to use? Those who claim to talk to ‘God’?
Or are we something more? Are we not conscious living beings, each aware of our own individuality? Thus can we not ‘fix ourselves’ if that is required?
Because I can tell you now that our very individuality is what frightens the elites more than anything else. Our ability to think for ourselves, our ability to recognise right from wrong, our ability to dream of better things, all these the elites have been trying to strip form us. The question is: Do we let them?
“OH HOW SWEET IT IS!” … The ControLLers Play the Muzak & the Monkeys Dance & Gibber to Their Sound-Patterns! “How Beaut-I-Fool,” they Jabber!! …. …. “SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF PRINCIPLE, AND ALL UNDERSTANDING SHALL BE ADDED UNTO YOU.” … Duh-Oh? … That’s… ARCHETYPIC PRINCIPLE. Love-Wisdom-Power-Truth. … “KNOW YE NOT, YE ARE GODS & GODDESSES?” … Dance! Your Masters Command You! (add Twilight Zone muzak *Here*) Doo-da-doot-da-doo-da-doot-da… “See the herds of humanimals? They’re Dancing on the way to The Slaughter Pens!” How Sweet It Is.
“The long term solution remains, in my mind, the imperative to create a culture apart from the mechanisms controlled by the elites that have given us this mess.”
Perhaps we should form our own breakaway civilization.
this is no longer possible, the way the world is currently formed is to oppress any new formed culture’s and plus what land mass is there to start a new culture? no governing body will allow anythig that is to threten there way of running things.. you see the problem is that we are of a govening body, not run by the people.
but the inherent problem there is no trust in the world with good reason
nomatter who or what you stand for, your either serveing yourself or someone else, and not that is, what we all need, tho nobody trust the collectiv thought there for we dont see a govening force that involes the collectiv mind just thoes we beleve to be the lesser of two evils
perpetuly doomed to slave
to enstill a true chane is to manipulate the collectiv mind,
its done very quietly just a thought here a statement there.
as quoteed a butterfly flaps its wings….
the proof is all around, think its shere coinsidence that tv programming tends to show simular content? (not suggesting there all skeeming) just a snowball effect.
if you want to see absolute bs goverment; look at austraila, flat out admission of faceless ‘men’ controlling the goverment. no matter who voted in the problem is there. and yet the people sit back and take it, it is sad because the majority of the austrailans want it to stop but feel powerless, this is due to a large population no one man can ever start a shake down any more, to organise a revolution, the same can be said for america. both worlds are holding a gun to there people, what a sick world we slave in
Idealists’ great plans have very rarely changed things for the better, particularly when they emphasize a matriarchal ethos and do not press for personal responsibilties. Populations change things, genes change things. I suppose this is self-evident, yet a lot of people will vehemently disagree.
I know of a man who wrote a book–a famous book–a long time ago and looked to a country that he saw as the most stable of all cultures. This man saw that culture as a monoculture with a polyglot of races. This man saw that country as having the wisest men to have walked the earth. This man saw this country as his kinsman, and yearned for it. This man saw that country as an integrated disciplinary whole, who transmitted knowledge, asked questions, and helped to lead others to answers with as much sophistication to satisfy human consciousness. This man sought to take the best they had and work out from there and fill in the deficiencies. This man saw that country as the foundation of Western Civilization and Intellectual thought. This great man had a brilliant idea, it should be realized.
That book would be Plato’s Republic would it not?
There isn’t much that gets by you legio.
Well Legio, with that we come back to Sparta and her ‘Mirage’ after all 🙂
Yes, but much much deeper than a city-state such as Sparta. Plato has somewhere else in mind as a template, Plato wants the Good Beyond Being and there is a city in ancient times that symbolized this: “The Sun, I presume you will say, not only furnishes to visibles the power of visibility but it also provides for their generation and growth and nurture though it is not itself generation.” “Of course not.” “In like manner, then, you are to say that the objects of knowledge not only receive from the presence of the good their being known, but their very existence and essence is derived to them from it, though the good itself is not being but still transcends being in dignity and surpassing power.” – Republic, 509b
Given this understanding of the Good beyond thought, Nothing, do theists and a-theists have anything to quibble about? Can we agree that this understanding ‘heals’ us? Does ‘The Good,’ not transcend both theism and a-theism so we can join hands?
Absolutely Daniel, the Good has nothing to do with what Religion people wish or don’t wish to follow. We all know what is Good whether we believe or not. Good call.
Nice work Daniel.
I guess the definition or interpretation of ‘Good beyond thought’ is the problem for humanity at the moment. What I was hinting at with Sparta was the way in which the ‘mythical’ founder of the Spartan Great Rhetra, Lykurgos, ‘borrowed’ the idea of a mixed constitution with a heavily religious base from Egypt (See Bernal etc).
The idea of a system that according to the ‘mirage’ was not based on bullion, money or equity that created ‘elites’ (even though we know this did go on). From here I can see how Plato was attracted to the idea-not for a ‘perfect’ city state, but for a system that transcends the city state. The question is; “Just what did the Egyptian temple priests tell him?”
Out pops the big ‘A’ word.
Cicero also explored this idea, perhaps we may call it the Philosophia perennis et universalis. I often wonder if this idea is the ‘signature’ of God, at least in my Christian eyes 🙂
True that atheists and theists shouldn’t have to much to fight about if they both examined this concept a little more closely.
Aha the mirage of the Spartan Mirage. Look at me I am just a yokel Laconian, please don’t use big words with me after all we are all simple folk in Laconia. Just like Augustus and his Constitutional Settlement, where the Princeps and the Senate shared government, so too the Spartans still fool many 2000 years later.
Yep. I spend a whole lot of time deconstructing the ‘mirage’ for my year 12’s.
The fascinating thing is that the more you investigate ancient systems, the more you DO see the operations of ‘banksters’ and religious elites.
It can be fun when they start seeing the pattern as well 🙂 With that you see individuals who teach, think or preach beyond these systems (dances with Universalism here, then goes back to the bar for Cognac).
The other side of the coin is when they can see both theist and atheist positions lending themselves to mass slaughter, that can be a very interesting and self reflecting conversation.
Dear Dr Farrell,
You said, ‘The long term solution remains, in my mind, the imperative to create a culture apart from the mechanisms controlled by the elites that have given us this mess’.
I don’t see how we can do this when the elites control the political processes, the education process and the dependent media. These three components, in my opinion, are what lead us to the societal junk heap we find ourselves in today. Yes the independent media and researchers will certainly help in creating a new culture, but in reality not many people are aware of this.
It is a hard slog to change peoples views who are a product of the three mechanisms I highlighted above. So, hypothetically Dr Farrell, how would you suggest that we begin a cultural revolution without necessarily cleaning up the top levels of the social pyramid?
It always starts slow, but we’re engaging in it right now. Look at what a guy like Giordano Bruno was able to do in a relatively short period of time. It got him killed,to be sure, but you don’t kill an idea by killing the person.
If that were true they wouldn’t use murder as a mainstay. Rarely do the victims become martyrs.
I understand that is what they attempt to do by killing off individuals. It is an attempt to kill off the ideas as well. The Great Neoplatonist Philosopher Proclus saw that time moved in cycles, and there are times where those ideas have to go in ‘survival’ mode. Those ideas did survive, and there comes a time when they can resurface again when political climate is more “free” and ripe to take them on and entertain them.
Which all goes back to Dewey and the Center for the Study of Cycles. The only conclusion one can come to is that there is basically nothing anyone can do to fix anything, we are all slaves to the system and things will not change till the alignments change. This being the case, talk of standing for this or that is nonsense.
I agree with that Daniel, ideas rarely die with the man. They are like seeds, they germinate and regenerate as each generation goes by, slowly growing bigger and bigger. I see that all around me, every day.
You hit the nail on the head Dr Farrell, the problem is far more cultural than merely political. It is just not in the Fourth Reich (Amerika) either, we see it here in spades in the Banana Commonwealth of Australia. Australian culture, what little we had built after 1788, has slowly been subdued by this pseudo Amerikan culture you speak of. I hear so many Australian’s address each other as ‘dude’ and greet each other with ‘how’s it hanging’ that it just makes me inwardly cringe.
We all here know what it is all about, the deliberate dumbing down of each generation until they resemble nothing more than primeval manimals. Pretty soon people will be communicating with each other in grunts. That may be an exaggeration but now young people can’t even be bothered to finish words. Our language itself is being devolved into a monosyllabic mess. Animal skins and clubs everyone?
And we all know why it is being done, stupid, docile, vain, morally corrupt and spiritually degenerated people are far easier to control. They strip you of your culture, your history, your intelligence and most importantly your individuality to produce a herd of homo-bovines, blindly following where the bull (elites) lead you.
There is no one simple answer to counter this. Regaining our culture is certainly a start, we need to rediscover who we really are. But culture won’t do it alone, we need to get back our governments to start the ball rolling. Americans need to regain control of their once fine republic and throw out the corrupt monkeys that inhabit the capitol and return them where they belong, in the zoo.
Australian’s need to regain our government, declare a republic so that we can be rid of the Monarchist and Fabian influences that are tearing our country apart. Yes, Australian’s have it better at the moment than our American cousins but always remember my fellow countrymen that what happens in America usually happens in Australia sooner or later. It won’t be long until we see our army in the streets performing the duties of the police as you see starting to happen in America.
We need to change things starting from the top and then the flow down will be unstoppable. We need to have a cultural revolution, a new renaissance as I have heard Dr Farrell speak of. And remember you don’t necessarily need to reach for a gun to start a revolution. There is such a thing as a peaceful revolution. We all have the power to do this, government rests on the consent of those to be governed, so what happens when we withdraw our consent to be governed by globalist prostiticians?
Sorry if I seem to be preaching or ranting hear but unfortunately so few are awake to hear what I have to say. Not that it deters me. Keep plugging away. This is one of the few places that I know that I will be heard, even if you agree or not. After all it does say ‘Speak your Mind’.
A great day to all.
As I mentioned in a previous post, i think mass non action may be the key. The ‘superconsciousness’ we see on the net (Anonymous, the Kony 2012 movement etc) may be ‘proto-vehicles’. I am suspicious of them for many reasons, however the action may be right.
I loved Jesus’ response to the elites ‘you who are without sin, cast the first stone’, and the stone was never thrown as it would have defeated the message instantly. Thus the system was delegitimised.
Imagine 1 Billion people simply refusing to buy, kill, vote. I remember Joseph bringing a similar point up with George-Anne Hughes concerning the fall of Communism in Eastern Europe “The Generals barked the orders but no one was listening anymore’.
I would b e interested to see if the ‘superconsciousness’ meme is addresses by the Doctors in the ‘Transhumanism’ book.
Humphry Bogart’s character in A Passage to Marseille says in effect/ I don’t trust this Major Duvall. Claude Rains’s character replies in effect/Yes. Why not? Bogart/He’ll radio the police. I’ve been fighting his kind all my life. I know what to expect. Rains/There are many ways to serve your country, my friend. Bogart/I don’t care about my country. The country you & I loved is dead Captain. She’s been dying for a long time. I saw her die.
This is where we are in that scene.
The culture, then, as now, is key.
So now it is a fight.
Frenado Savater/Yes, there is death in a bullfight.
The way you fight the bull reveals who you are.
The question is how to get The People’s Republic back(if indeed, we ever had one).
Get the power to issue currency away from the private international banking cartel and back in the public’s hands.
The best way to end this madness is by getting more and more people to realize that flooding White countries and ONLY White countries with hundreds of millions of third worlders and forcing “assimilation” with these non-Whites is not just “displacement”, it IS geNOcide. And pointing out to people that ALL “anti-racists” JUSTIFY this program of White geNOcide and therefore: anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
We are all concerned about Americans’ willingness to give up their precious freedoms and constitutional rights to a corrupt government, but the problem is that Americans have almost always been willing to do so. Starting with the Revolution, when Tories were hounded and persecuted and forced to flee, and found themselves second class citizens after the war, to the Alien and Sedition Acts, to the War of 1812, to the “Civil War”, we see a consistent willingness on the part of most citizens to toss out freedom and to oppress others for some other supposed benefit. The history of civil liberties in WW 1 and 2 is even worse. Conductors prosecuted for refusing to play the national anthem, schools forbidden to teach the German language, those opposed to the draft being convicted of sedition, the seizure of newspapers and magazines for detracting from the “war effort,” tossing Japanese and Italian and German-American citizens into camps are all as “American as apple pie.” Romanticizing our history to sustain the aura of American exceptionalism is not only foolish but a big part of the problem.
maybe write some rap lyrics that denounce rap and praise and give examples of some other kinds of thinking?
Well Toledo, apparantly you believe in the Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for EVERYBODY, version of history..
You mean *no white countries*.
Stop waiting for some big movement to join and be part of a collective and just do what you will individually. This is all based on CONSENT by each INDIVIDUAL so if you have a PROBLEM with it, STOP CONSENTING. This isn’t as hard as it seems…cancel all contracts, especially the fraudulent ones. Force the issues into the open courts of record and watch them run…stop being afraid of HUMANS.
Perfect your technique and show others of like mind. Then go back to having compassion for those who choose to continue to be members of the DC CORP!
I mean the best part of being arrested is teaching everyone else how to deal with these imposters! (de facto argument remains valid until proof otherwise)
Cause that strategy has worked so well in the past.
I have noticed that those who have the most to say about the principled stance of standing up to the system and its goons are the first to tuck tail and run when their “safety” is threatened. Easy to pontificate until they are in your face.
Gee its so hard to send letters… 🙂 and ask questions 🙂
YOU ARE NOT DEALING WITH “JUST HUMANS.” Those who Believe this ARE ONLY SEMI-CONSCIOUS… still “Green Bole & Bark” observers. The Material Is ImBued With An E-M Field-Surround… Which Controls the material Form. The “materialist” Cannot see therefor believe such, & delimit themselves by holding such is “fantasy,” but gobble up the “concrete concepts” as their All & everything. Elite Are Subordinate to the Luminoius Ones (Illuminati, operative in both 3 & 4 D), and Both Are Subordinate To The EL-e-Mentalls. … “You are Soooo BeautiFool when you Are Sleeping!”
Oh, so you are walking in my shoes now…oh ok…have fun, I will need them back after you walk a few miles…
This was a Banana Republic before the term was coin as for the USA being a white country it never was. It is a puesto civilizied empire off shoot of theiir Norman overlords who conquered the British Iles beginning in 1066 and for the last 945 years been looting the world with the aid of their Anglo Saxson,Jute,,African,and Celtic slaves and fellow criminals from Euro-Western Asia as for the so called ilegal aliens along the USA USM border they are by in large the native people of this hemisphere recolonizing the territories lost since 1492 and slavery not liberty has been the base of this society.
Nobody is saying that Africa needs diversity.
Nobody is saying that Asia needs diversity.
They are already 100% diverse.
People are only telling White children in White countries that they need diversity.
White Countries will be 100% diverse when there are no White people left.
Diversity is a code-word for White genocide; anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
I just read a book titeld stategy of happiness. There is spoken of social engeneering thru media, school, politics where groneups act like infantile children constantly in search of the next fix that makes them feel shortly happy.
If they can’t get it they have a tantrum and blame outside authorities and project themselves as victems. I think especially the west made this into a culture witch a lot of us are doing everything to uphold this status quo because otherwise we have to face groing up and most of us don’t want that. Sacrificing what it means to be a human being and being dehumanized is ok so long I can have my next fix is now sadly the credo of many westerners not even realizing it.
not even CAPABLE any more of realizing.
Well, here’s the problem.
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a code word for Anti-White.
This is a good point that is always avoided. If you replace a population with another, you must expect different outcomes. Of Japan shipped in a few million Mexicans a year, how long until Japan wouldn’t look so Japanese anymore. Culture is the result of the people who create it, as Joseph said. This is one reason why Ted Kennedy changed the immigration law in the 60s (while proclaiming it would not affect the racial makeup of America..so then why did it need to be changed?) .
If you want different outcomes you need different people. If you input rap quality, you get rap quality as a natural consequence. Sad thing is that the race topic, like the Holocaust ™ is off limits for discussion, even to those who claim to be controversial.
So in other words, at this point, for the forseeable future of everyone alive today, it’s hopeless. Those circumstances will not happen again. People don’t want education, they want to be taken care of. When has *any* revolution of any kind ever happened that didn’t have an elite behind it? This renaissance of culture sounds an awful lot like the messianic thinking you rail against. It isnt going to happen, people don’t want it.
“Liberty means responsibility, that is why men dread it.”
Quote from an anon. elitist: “Oh How Sweet It Is!”