Brace yourself, because Jurassic Park is just around the corner. Check this out:

S.Korean, Russian scientists bid to clone mammoth

One notes that this cloning craze involves Russia, Japan, South Korea, and China. But what one should really note is that the new technologies, in a certain sense, are making a kind of resurrection possible.

We can easily speculate on the possible agenda here. If successful - and the article notes that a dog has already been cloned - this will mean that theoretically virtually any dead organism could be "resurrected", including dead humans is appropriate DNA samples could be obtained. The scenario of The Boys from Brazil comes to mind, and there are indeed persisting rumors - with as yet little substantiation - that "samples" were indeed taken from Der Fuehrer for precisely this purpose towards the end of the Second World War.

Other possibilities open up: including "virtual immortality." One can imagine a world in which there are corporations literally dedicated to the "resurrection" of a lost loved pet or loved one. Already transhumanists are positing and predicting such possibilities. One may go further: as I have pointed out in my books The Cosmic War and Genes, Giants, Monsters, and Men, and in the forthcoming book with Dr. Scott D. de Hart, Transhumanism, one can envision the recreation or actualization of the chimerical creatures of ancient myths.

Add to this the possibility of "historical genetics" as has been undertaken by Dr. Sykes of Oxford University, and one might have a technique or tool to research the possibility of whether or not some of those ancient myths are in fact true, namely, that there is a DNA content in modern humans whose origins cannot be placed on this planet.

In short, the Brave New World is coming, like it or not. So when you see that wooly mammoth in your local zoo, remember that there are other, perhaps not so pleasant, possibilities that may be following closely behind....

See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Jedi on April 23, 2012 at 5:35 am

    The ancients were cloners, understood dna, and wrote about it including diagrams….as the say everything is in plain view.

    • HAL838 on April 23, 2012 at 5:50 am


      • HAL838 on April 23, 2012 at 5:58 am







        • Jedi on April 23, 2012 at 10:35 am

          Those laws of physics are bull shit, newtons law of gravity doesnt work for 2 bodies let alone a solar system.
          The key to the code is the keyhole…

          Evil is live reversed, your sin that our freind died on the cross for is your a slave which you were born into….as ole Merle Haggard swoon….you turned 21 in heaven doing life without parole… jack, once you are over 21….busted they say …..Mama tried ….the whore of babylions, goddess of war, farming and prostitution….best to stay away from the ladies or youll get burned….in that burning ring of fire

  2. bdw on April 22, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Also apparently cloning is not apparently a long-term solution: iirc DNA degrades more quickly than it does “normally.”

    I recently read a book where the author claims that biologically, humans (perhaps any species?? don’t remember) may not be able to last indefinitely due normal degradation of DNA. I don’t think mainstream biology would agree with the thesis off the book, but I don’t think it would deny any of the technical specifics of the book either. The book is GENETIC ENTROPY & THE MYSTERY OF THE GENOME by J.C. Sanford. It is by a Christian biology professor (fairly “distinguished”) but it is very good: I would recommend it to you Joe. This is the kind of idea that will add to your work (imho) in some way.

    • HAL838 on April 22, 2012 at 8:11 pm

      OMG !!!

      I’m growing hair !!!

      I’m turning into a monkey.

      But I’ve a long way to go to regress to U !!!

      Maybe I can read a few more books before I go
      running after the bananas you just peeled and slipped on.

      • paul degagne on April 25, 2012 at 5:28 am


        Your post reminded me of a scene in Doctor Jeckel and Mister Hyde where the good doctor sees hair starting to grow out of his skin!

        OH NO —– I am losing my hair,
        I have lines on my forehead,
        My belly is protruding,
        And my Bones are Cold!

        Hal — I wish I could just WALK OUT OF THIS BAD MOVIE THEATER BUT I CANT!

        ———– HA -HA!————

  3. bdw on April 22, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    this is just my opinion of course, but personally I don’t think DNA has anything to do with “identity.” Using the common word “soul” for lack of a better word: my guess is that my “soul” in “your” body would still be “me.” The “soul” part is way, way more important than the “body” (or DNA) part for “identity.”

    A clone of Hitler would definitely not be “Hitler” in my opinion. It would just be a body with Hitler’s DNA, but the identity of that person would be due to whoever (or whatever) “inhabited” the body.

    There are those who claim (I am certainly not able to verify this) that they can take over another body when their’s is getting ready to die (or simply whenever they decide to do it). This bypassing of the normal reincarnational route has the claimed benefit that you do not forget about your previous life . . . . .

    • HAL838 on April 22, 2012 at 8:14 pm

      I think you’ve covered every religion possible
      there, bdw.

    • Nita on April 23, 2012 at 12:09 am

      I was raised in a Scientological milieu and I have heard this said, that another person (spirit/mind) can take over another person’s body in the middle of their lifetime. No death. However, I believe most of us here on this planet have agreed that this is in violation of the rules of fair play and DON’T behave that way. Which leads me to believe that those who would encroach so are not part of our ‘club’ even though this action would indicate their attempt to ‘pass’.

  4. marina pratt on April 22, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Oh, lordy–lordy–! Well, no surprises here…I heard some time ago, conjecture on this cloning of critters long since extinct…I believe the dino movie triggered a mass consciousness on the subject. There seems to me to be a bit of a glitch in the process however…say, in regard to humans anyway. In the cloning of say a Hitler…one would get in return a physical being who is not going to behave the same because, enviornment is EVERYTHING! Hitler was the product of his enviornment..his relationships with his parents, his diet, his personal experiences in a very difficult world of that time. There is absolutely no way to reproduce that. Besides, the guy was sick…that will come into the cloning process as well….genetics is very selective…they manifest and adapt thru mutation to circumstance.

    Cloning a wolly mamoth is really cruel – the enviornment is completely different. What about the need and desire to reproduce…are they going to manipulate the genetic output to bring forth a female of the same species…No doubt that is an option. So now there are two cloned mamoths who have a baby mamoth..and the line grows accordingly. It boggles the mind.

    This all brings to mind an instructive moment I had one day during a flag flying ceremony when Mr. Bush was in office. The soldiers were in parade sharpness that day…standing to both sides of Mr. Bush. As I looked at the tidy line, I noticed something that pushed me back in my chair…the soldiers all looked exactly alike! “This is Wonder Land and I am Alice” I said to my husband as I explained what I was looking at. I mean, I know the chorus line gals in New York are chosen with height and general appearance and body movement with an eye to “sameness” but as a theater trained person, my eye saw clearly the differences. With these men however…”CLONES!” My husband barked.

    “If the ETs can do it, certainly they were able to transfer that to us along with all that other stuff.” I thought. I made a mental note to watch for a clone near me but life goes on…Then the other day–a couple of weeks ago actually, some science guy bodly announced that human DNA is full of “junk”. “Oh, OK”

    So, lets just wait this one out. Not a damn thing anyone can do about it. Besides that, rumor is, the world is coming to an end in a few months…gotta have electricity to do cloning things..right? Right! Nameste, Marina.

    • HAL838 on April 22, 2012 at 8:18 pm

      Nature has a built in stop-gap for this kind of ‘spiritual’ fornication

      The [lifeline] telemarase shorten by half with each clone.

      • Nita on April 23, 2012 at 12:22 am


        This project Earth probably IS sealed off from too much manipulation. Platinum would roll in his grave. All the categories of souls for all the categories of forms are already logged into encyclopedea. What kinds of souls would we be creating to animate the new amalgams of species? Amalgamated souls? God….we don’t want another flood.

      • Nita on April 23, 2012 at 12:27 am

        I was trying to spell Plotinus and it came out Platinum. Oooops.

  5. marcos anthony toledo on April 22, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    Yes The Boys from Brazil and even earliler Brave New World pleasent dreams or nightares eveyone.

  6. Jon Norris on April 22, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Combine this with a technology like that in Dollhouse, and you have virtual immortality. Download your personality into an external device, clone your failing body, and reload into the fresh new one.

    The possibilities of engineering a body to transplant a brain into to give people superhuman strength, or whatever will have some dark sides.

    They will also ultimately discover that the “personality” does not reside in the brain. They are in for some scary surprises.

    As are we…..

    • HAL838 on April 22, 2012 at 7:00 pm

      You think we are all gonna become machines?
      Some kind of inorganic and/or ‘virtual’ machines ?

      I think you all happily look forward to those “nightares” [nightmares?]

      Do you know what “passive brainwashing” is ?
      It’s everywhere because it is very, very affective….

      • paul degagne on April 23, 2012 at 2:30 am

        The level of ‘critique” around here has been pretty bogus.

        Too much Cyberspace MAKE-BELIEVE!

        While your ass sits on a chair there is a world that goes all around you!

        (Nah, mustn’t look at that?)

        Talk about Intellectually BRAINWASHING YOUR OWN SELF? ( Big Brother doesn’t need all this sophisticated equipment to FOOL YOU! You willingly fool yourself?)

        Kind of reminds me of the “ant” floating down the river on a popsicle stick til he comes to a drawbridge and yells open the draw-gates “I got an erection!”

        • HAL838 on April 23, 2012 at 6:07 am

          I sit here becasuse I can do no other since your Heroes
          of the CIA have been VERY disrespectful of me in the years
          since I was Dr Farrells Age.

          Truly, I don’t deserve [in any way] all
          the attention [not too mention resources]
          that have been put into [me] !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. HAL838 on April 22, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    The real flip flight
    will be faster than light.

    Sometimes you all make me feel like I’m
    riding a tachyon, faster than light but just backward.

    You are all sounding so primitive lately.

    If anyone really thinks that “everything is possible,”
    stop counting down all the things you think are.

  8. LSM on April 22, 2012 at 7:52 am

    “one can envision the recreation or actualization of the chimerical creatures of ancient myths”- do tell- one just needs to look at the souls of all major politicians around the world to see that at least their souls have been in some way compromised/cloned?- how else could they behave so irrationally?-

    just my own opinion but I believe the now “publicized” cloning of animals is just another cover story of something even more nefarious that has been in existence for much longer than we even want to begin to imagine-

    sort of goes hand-in-hand with the myth that animall/human sacrifice in ancient times was “to the Gods”- no, it benefited the agendas of humans and humans only- can we all say “social engeniering”?-

    as Bon Jovi (rather dubious entity) sings: “the more things change the more they stay the same”

  9. Dashiell Cabasa on April 22, 2012 at 5:09 am

    p.s. i was watching with my son only last week, then bringing out a discovered in the ice, mammoth..

  10. Dashiell Cabasa on April 22, 2012 at 5:08 am

    hee hee yes, love it, i was thinking about this only yesterday and looking forward to reading you and Dr De Hart’s upcoming publication upon it…flip indeedy!

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