ISREALI DRONES IN US AIRSPACE?
This report I absolutely had to share, and I could scarcely believe it when I read it, and believe me, I've become accustomed - one might say, cynical - about what the elites will and won't do. Frankly, I am to the point of believing they'll do just about anything to anyone. Nonetheless, this one caught my eye:
Israeli Company Has FAA Permission to Fly Drones in U.S. Airspace!
What disturbed me here were two things, first, that such an activity would even be permitted, and more importantly, these words:
"One of the most powerful weapons Israel has in its march to destroy freedom and to rule the world as its Hebrew Bible/Old Testament instructs it to do (one Bible quote in particular which seems to speak not only of Israel’s domination of its neighbors but also of its superior ruling relationship over America through its control of American politicians of both parties is Deuteronomy 11:23 which has God telling the Hebrews/Jews/Israel, “Then will the LORD drive out all these nations from before you, and ye shall possess greater nations and mightier than yourselves.”) is the belief of Gentiles that the Bible is the word of God. Since the Bible was written by ancient Hebrews/Jews it promotes them and Israel at the expense of everyone else."
As my co-author Dr de Hart and I wrote in Yahweh the Two-Faced God, this interpretation of the Bible is not even remotely that of any form of historical Christianity, since in that doctrinal system, the understanding of the Incarnation of Christ as taught by classical dogmatics was that the sacrifice and Resurrection of Christ abolished Old Testament distinctions between Jew and Gentile and hence such Old Testament statements were in effect null and void. It was only with the rise of the abominable Rapture doctrine and the whole dispensationalist theology that such distinctions became tolerable within Christianity once again, and even then, with careful hidden promotion and only within certain narrow circles of American evangalicalism. Nonetheless, the public relations campaign in support of this doctrinal system has been so successful that most people - theologically and historically ill-informed - view it as classical and acceptable Christian doctrine.
But why would such a meme be promoted in the first place? The answer, at least as far as this article is concerned, is a chilling one. Ponder these words carefully, and consider their striking resemblance to similar words spoken in another time and place, almost 80 years ago:
"This conflict Israel has with the rest of the world is a profoundly important problem that must be corrected. Especially since Israel has a stockpile of real nuclear, biological and chemical weapons along with multiple submarines to launch them. This conflict has been know for centuries as the battle between Jerusalem and Athens. Jerusalem represents alleged revelations and actual superstition. Athens represents God-given reason and the God honoring practice of following the evidence wherever it leads. (I wrote a chapter on this important topic in Deism: A Revolution in Religion, A Revolution in You.) The American founder and Deist Thomas Paine made clear the deadly nature of ancient Israel when he wrote in The Age of Reason, The Complete Edition, “The Jews made no converts; they butchered all.” This sick thinking is also embraced by modern Israel as is evident from its violent treatment of Palestinians, its promotion of the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament which promotes Jewish superiority and its rhetoric such as Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu stating that Jerusalem has been the Israeli capital for 3,000 years. The more people realize the ungodly nature of the Abrahamic “revealed” religions and their “holy” books (the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament, New Testament [at Matthew 5:18 it says that Jesus said, "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."] and Koran), the sooner we can be free of the twisted thinking and the pain and misery they promote."
While I certainly agree that the three Yahwisms, as Dr de Hart and I refer to them, have been the root cause of much conflict and human suffering, reading these words - "This conflict Israel has with the rest of the world is a profoundly important problem that must be corrected" - sent a chill through me. Corrected how? Shades of die Judenfrage of the 193os, and we know in what that issued. I am no friend of Zionism, but that does not mean I am a friend of those who call for the "correction" of this "problem" by calls for the elimination of its existence. In short, I am no friend of the rhetoric of Tel Aviv or Tehran.
True enough, those "holy books" have promoted twisted thinking and pain and misery. But so has the "God of reason". We need only recall the slaughters perpetrated during the French revolution or the Bolshevik revolution in the name of "reason." There is no panacea, no magical formula, save, perhaps, just one. As we put it in that same book, that ancient "topological metaphor of the medium", about which we, and I, have written so much, would seem to imply that there is but one crime or sin, that of the murder of another individual in the name of any ideological system.
As for the first implication - the drones themselves - well, it seems clear that the implication is that the elites want to be able to do just that, to anyone, anytime, anywhere, and for whatever "reason" they in their star chambers may decide.
See you on the flip side.
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Revelations 2.9 and 3.9
Judahs 2 sons were slew in Canaan for being wicked before the lord…slew means to lay hands on, too enslave. His other 2 (twins) were from his daughter in law who disguised herself as a whore, one of them had a scarlet string placed upon his arm. These are the widows sons of Judah…genesis 28, Then Jacob became Israel, moon goddess Isis, Sun God Ra and the el the prison keeper of the slaves that sin themselves in to debt….just like the serfs in Tibet.
The tribe of Simeon and Levi are ..instruments of cruelty are there habitation….genesis 49.5 …the parasites of Judah.
These people are not of this world, they are the lights upon the earth. Brian Hershel has done some work on where they claim to come from.
as for all this holocaust talk, quite a few million Christians were slaughtered in Russia, including its Czar, over 66 million and the reunification over in China. But Moa and stalin were friends of ours against the evil empire….talk about sophistry.
ICRC- International Red Cross Holocaust records, now unsealed, show only 282,000 Jews killed in all of WW2. Doc is available online.
Too bad the thoroughly indoctrinated can’t seem to accept the FACTS only to perpetuate the gross Holocaust LIES. Where is the responsibility of individuals who continue the lies? The zionists love them for it.
Or are they simply too lazy to research the bone jarring truth.
There were NO Gas Chambers.
The jews declared an International Boycott against Germany. Rack and ruin.
FDR and his Secret Map speech.
How far back does the israeli zionist jewish global spying go?
Spy vs Spy.
In today’s world it is:
Buyer Beware &
And in the end, some believe only what they want to. Sometimes, it seems just a waste of energy, trying to bring light into darkness.
Thanks, for keeping the lights on.
The IRC had full access? Bull.
“Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe! ”
Adolf Hitler, January 31 1939.
“And we say that the war will not end as the Jews imagine it will, namely with the uprooting of the Aryans, but the result of this war will be the complete annihilation of the Jews. ”
Adolf Hitler, January 30 1942.
“I mean the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish race. It’s one of those things it is easy to talk about, “the Jewish race is being exterminated”, says one party member, “that’s quite clear, it’s in our program, elimination of the Jews, and we’re doing it, exterminating them”. And then they come, 80 million worthy Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. Of course the others are vermin, but this one is an A-1 Jew. Not one of those who talk this way has watched it, not one of them has gone through it. Most of you know what it means when 100 corpses are lying side by side, or 500, or 1,000. To have stuck it out and at the same time – apart from exceptions caused by human weakness – to have remained decent fellows, that is what has made us hard. This is a page of glory in our history which has never been written and is never to be written.
I ask of you that what I say in this circle you really only hear and never speak of. We come to the question: how is it with the women and the children? I have resolved even here on a completely clear solution. That is to say I do not consider myself justified in eradicating the men – so to speak killing or ordering them killed – and allowing the avengers in the shape of the children to grow up for our sons and grandsons. The difficult decision has to be taken, to cause this Volk [people] to disappear from the earth. ”
Heinrich Himmler, October 4 1943.
“We have – I would say, as very consistent National Socialists, taken the question of blood as our starting point. We were the first really to solve the problem of blood by action, and in this connection, by problem of blood, we of course do not mean antisemitism. Antisemitism is exactly the same as delousing. Getting rid of lice is not a question of ideology. It is a matter of cleanliness.”
Heinrich Himmler, April 1943.
“World Jewry will suffer a great catastrophe at the same time as Bolshevism. The Fuhrer once more expressed his determination to clean up the Jews in Europe pitilessly. There must be no squeamish sentimentalism about it. The Jews have deserved the catastrophe that has now overtaken them. Their destruction will now go hand in hand with the destruction of our enemies. We must hasten this process with cold ruthlessness.”
Josef Goebbels, February 14 1942.
“Beginning with Lublin, the Jews in the General Government [Nazi occupied Poland] are now being evacuated eastward. The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be described here more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the whole it can be said that about 60 percent of them will have to be liquidated whereas only 40 percent can be used for forced labor.”
Josef Goebbels, March 27 1942.
“One way or another — I will tell you quite openly — we must finish off the Jews. The Fuhrer put it into words once: should united Jewry again succeed in setting off a world war, then the blood sacrifice shall not be made only by the peoples driven into war, but then the Jew of Europe will have met his end….
But what should be done with the Jews? Can you believe that they will be accommodated in settlements in the Ostland? In Berlin we were told: why are you making all this trouble? We don’t want them either, not in Ostland nor in the Reichskommissariat; liquidate them yourselves! Gentlemen, I must ask you to steel yourselves against all considerations of compassion. We must destroy the Jews wherever we find them, and wherever it is at all possible, in order to maintain the whole structure of the Reich…
The Jews represent for us also extraordinary malignant gluttons. We have now approximately 2,500,000 of them in the General Government [Nazi occupied Poland], perhaps with the Jewish mixtures and everything that goes with it, 3,500,000 Jews. We cannot shoot or poison those 3,500,000 Jews, but we shall nevertheless be able to take measures which will lead somehow to their annihilation, and this in connection with the gigantic measures to be determined in discussions with the Reich.”
Hans Frank, December 16 1941.
“At another, later gassing–also in autumn 1941–Grabner ordered me to pour Zyklon B into the opening because only one medical orderly had shown up. During a gassing Zyklon B had to be poured through both openings of the gas-chamber room at the same time. This gassing was also a transport of 200-250 Jews, once again men, women and children. As the Zyklon B–as already mentioned–was in granular form, it trickled down over the people as it was being poured in. They then started to cry out terribly for they now knew what was happening to them. I did not look through the opening because it had to be closed as soon as the Zyklon B had been poured in. After a few minutes there was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight. ”
Hans Stark, SS-Totenkopfverbände Auschwitz.
“After leaving the undressing barracks, I had to show the Jews the way to the gas chambers. I believe that when I showed the Jews the way they were convinced that they were really going to the baths. After the Jews entered the gas chambers, the doors were closed by Hackenholt himself or by the Ukrainians subordinated to him. Then Hackenholt switched on the engine which supplied the gas…
I could see that the lips and tips of the noses were a bluish color. Some of them had their closed, other’s eyes rolled. The bodies were dragged out of the gas chambers and inspected by a dentist, who removed finger rings and gold teeth… ”
SS-Unterscharfuhrer Schluch, SS-Totenkopfverbände Belzec.
“When I came to Treblinka the camp commandant was a doctor named Dr. Eberl. He was very ambitious. It was said that he ordered more transports than could be “processed” in the camp. That meant that trains had to wait outside the camp because the occupants of the previous transport had not yet all been killed. At the time it was very hot and as a result of the long wait inside the transport trains in the intense heat many people died. At the time whole mountains of bodies lay on the platform. The Hauptsturmfuehrer Christian Wirth came to Treblinka and kicked up a terrific row. And then one day Dr. Eberl was no longer there…
For about two months I worked in the upper section of the camp and then after Eberl had gone everything in the camp was reorganized. The two parts of the camp were separated by barbed wire fences. Pine branches were used so that you could not see through the fences. The same thing was done along the route from the “transfer” area to the gas chambers…
Finally, new and larger gas chambers were built. I think that there were now five or six larger gas chambers. I cannot say exactly how many people these large gas chambers held. If the small gas chambers could hold 80-100 people, the large ones could probably hold twice that number…
Following the arrival of a transport, six to eight cars would be shunted into the camp, coming to a halt at the platform there. The commandant, his deputy Franz, Kuettner and Stadie or Maetzig would be here waiting as the transport came in. Further SS members were also present to supervise the unloading: for example, Genz and Belitz had to make absolutely sure that there was no one left in the car after the occupants had been ordered to get out.
When the Jews had got off, Stadie or Maetzig would have a short word with them. They were told something to the effect that they were a resettlement transport, that they would be given a bath and that they would receive new clothes. They were also instructed to maintain quiet and disciplined. They would continue their journey the following day.
Then the transports were taken off to the so-called “transfer” area. The women had to undress in huts and the men out in the open. The women were than led through a passageway, known as the “tube”, to the gas chambers. On the way they had to pass a hut where they had to hand in their jewelery and valuables. ”
Willi Mentz, SS-Totenkopfverbände Treblinka.
There are hundreds of other testimonies from other Germans involved in the camps. There are hundred of testimonies from Wehrmacht officers and men who witnessed or took part in executions of Jews. There are hundreds of testimonies from allied officers and men describing what they saw upon entering the camps.
Two questions you sick revisionists seem to avoid answering whenever you sprout this denial rubbish are:
1. Where are all the missing Jews of Europe you claim were not killed? If they were not killed then they must be somewhere. Where are they?
2. Why would so many Germans admit to doing something that you claim that they did not in fact do?
Another Fabrication for War
Straight to Hell
Regarding “Another Fabrication for War,” I would like to correct a misspelling of the word “conscious-less” in the last sentence. The word I had in mind when I wrote that letter years ago was “conscience-less.”
Regarding “Straight to Hell,” this sentence needs a word change also.: “You don’t want your fellow Jews to learn that the Zionists and Hitler were in collusion and that the vast majority of the suffering of the Jewish people during World War II can be directly attributed to the Zionists who were willing to sacrifice their lesser brethren so that the state of Israel would become a reality.”
The word collusion is wrongly applied in this case. Cooperation would have been a better choice.
Now take the time to listen to this:
Ya know I think somebody needs to re think the whole “Gods chosen people” concept! Since God is no longer mutually exclusive to “only Israe”l Sorry folks the truth hurts sometimes!
Since I have received this power of or from God in my late 30’s it has been an interesting journey none the less I suppose some what like being an interdimensional being when I am really under the anointing of the Holy Spirit!
I realize several things first of all anybody could have this power and in fact that was the purpose to make it available to all man kind like in the beginning of the first Man Adam or Adamo or what ever we wish to call him.
Jesus sort of cut out the “middle man” or “priest class” because he began to realize power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. As the little guy on the street was constantly getting screwed over by this “priestly class”!
Many of you might say various Kings were corrupt but the truth in the matter was it started in the “priestly class” always got or went corrupted 1st! As went the spiritual power so went the country or the whole country went corrupt!
So when I hear that Obama is actually a Muslim in a predominantly christian country what does that say! We are now bearing the fruit of this evil situation!
When the righteous are in power the People prosper and this does not mean the religious bible scholar types either. This is Spirit filled people boots on the ground because the have influence in the seen and the unseen world. There is no need to have to have a law, rule, or control governing peoples actions as that is the job of the spirit!
So when we see all these rules, laws ordinances increasing and the lousing of our constitutional rights decreasing. This is not a product of the influence of the anointing of the Holy Spirit as the Holy Spirit will set you free!
I basically quit going to any church for the longest time! And now that I have returned I have noticed a large change in the environment and in the people and atmosphere where I live. I realize that my faith has to be exercised in public as well as in private.
It is not even necessary for you to agree with me because the spirit will do and or move how ever he so chooses he may mingle in evil and in good environments. So actually I prefer using large churches even if they are not spiritual believers they need to be exposed to this option as well.
And the name through which this option came is still Jesus! And I still do my best work releasing this or his anointing anonymously out in the crowd. You don’t have to see or know nothing about me because though i may wish you all could have it! You or we all must work out your own salvation in his presence!
You don’t even have to move to some imagined altar or altar call you can do it whenever you sense his presence as these days most churches are far to bright and or illuminated anyway! Ya know lights camera action they brought this harlot right into the church! And they expect God to act or perform some how like THEY think or want him to act or perform!
And in fact I do go to these churches but my success rate is quite poor in these situations! And in fact unseen radio broad cast would be the best venue for me to release the anointing because you HAVE TO USE YOUR FAITH IN THIS SITUATION! You can’t see who is speaking to you but you can sense the presence of the Holy Spirit and close your eyes and repent unto Jesus.
I have to laugh at all these people who think that they can “teach the anointing” I know it is pure “bullshit” because the anointing is the TEACHER!
I for one never know what is going to happen in a crowd of people but if you don’t make some noise or do something he will not come near you! So if you are deaf, blind or can’t move then you may have to have hands layed on you to be healed or to receive the Holy Spirit but for the most part he will drop down right out of thin air! Just like he did for me.
You know if I ever taught a class on this I would prefer a very dimly lit room or worship situation. And this type of setting is not for “my benefit” but it is for those who wish to finally seek and or receive the baptism of the Holy
So in a modern church or worship situation the best place to receive the Holy Spirit may be in the back rows of the church if there is less light and or less attention. But if and only if you participate in praise and worship. Do humble people sit in the back or the front?
NATO in Chicaqgo.
Wed May 23, 2012
Chicago: America’s Police Repression Capital
You might find the following reply interesting to the Special Ops Training in Tampa.
“Looking through the comments no one has mentioned what stuck out to me as the biggest “red flag” in this video. They are building a “Global Special Ops Partnership”.”
Full reply @ the Daily Paul:
Isn’t the real question how surveillance drones are compatible with individual freedoms and liberty? It doesn’t matter who builds them, it’s why are they filling the skies with them? Who’s being watched and why does your government consider you the real enemy?
A friend has asked me to post these for him since he’s had computer troubles.
Another Fabrication for War
Straight to Hell
Joseph, I too was worried about where you were going with this. Glad you didn’t go there but judging by a few of the comments by some of your ‘followers’ they would go there. Especially ‘Holocaust Deniers” who are more dangerous than anyone else.
Islam today is the continuation of the ancient Hebrew/Israelite religion. They believe exactly except they do allow converts.
As far as Christianity is concerned, they have become so ‘pacifistic’ as to pose no threat. I am more concerned with what our government (esp. the military) might do if Obama is re-elected and he declares himself “President-for-Life” and orders the socialization of everything and every one.
I am aware of that Masshuu but I am NOT a white supremacist, Holocaust denier, or even anything CLOSE. Nor am I a friend of any of the Yahwisms and their track records. As for Churchianity, the American evangelical wing is both pacificistic and warlike. As for the rest, they could turn on a dime back to their old ways and if the Dominionists have their way, they will.
Masshuu il Thulcandra:
Have you seen any evidence (other than imaginings by your ilk) that President Obama would declare himself president for life if he were to win another election? No. And the claims of Lapierre are no more grounded in validity than yours.
Unlike the last guy, at least Obama has won one presidential election.
There are plenty of Bush abuses that Obama extended and expanded, why not object to those actualities. Oh wait…
What’s to be expected these days when the only thing on the menu
seems to be baloney sandwiches ?
I always saw this as the way nation’s curcumvented their own laws protecting their peoples rights. We’re not spying on you Isreal is. And they just pass on the info to us. The law doesn’t specifically prevent our trusted allies from trackig our people so too bad. Problem is the Isreali’s have so much dirt on anybody with any power in this country that they now call the shots on the issues that pertain to their interests.
You truly believe the USA (and others) are not spying on Israel? You are naive to the max dude! We spy on everyone including our own people.
What I was saying is likely our government asked Isreal to spy on Americans for them to circumvent the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Since the Patriot Act this should have become obsolete. Can’t believe they would allow Isreal to command spy drones over us. Whether Isreal has us spy on their people on purpose I’m not sure. Probably not if Isreali’s don’t have a similar Constitution or any Rights to privacy. Everyone is spying on everyone.
Israel has been on the “books” for sometime. To me it is a valuable piece placed upon the geopolitical board by a bloodied hand that is far from doing any “good” regarding mankind as a whole. It was part of the engineering of WW1 & hense, WW11, toward the present. That, the hand afar, now has its death-tipped phalanges above our skies, is no surprise.
‘Can anything be more ridiculous than that a man should have the right to kill me because he lives on the other side of the sea, AND BECAUSE HIS RULER HAS A QUARREL WITH MINE, THOUGH i HAVE NONE WITH HIM’.
– Pascal, Pensees
(hit cap button by mistake)
I always have to shake my head when I hear people repeat this dispensation nonsense. God, a perfect being, chooses one extremely small piece of his creation, you know, just cuz and forbids them to intermarry with others. Then after a couple thousand years of this, decides to stop being an asshole, stops animal.sacrifice with child sacrifice (which he previously condemned…and ordered) and decides everyone can be saved after all. Sounds like god isn’t very good at formulating plans….not to mention that whole, “I do not change” part.
So Yahweh 2.0, i.e. Jesus (whom Christians now worship in direct opposition to tje first commandment) is now a nice guy, full of love…..at least until the book of Revelation, where god/Jesus returns to his old self, pouring out wrath like a Dictator till he rules with an iron fist.
The entire idea that Christianity could be intellectually derived from the Old Testament is so bankrupt am idea it would be akin to claiming that Dick Cheney was inspired to torture by the Dali Lama. Yes, yes, I know the history, what the church pretends, but this is nonsense. As Thomas Paine pointed out, none of the OT prophecies attributed to Jesus in the gospels have anything to do with his claimed life. All are fraudulent on their face. This is why Christians made up things like dual fulfillment.
We really should emphasize the fraudulent claims that Christianity has any ratuonal claim to be descended from the Hebrew religion. It has no basis in reality.
Another Fabrication for War
Straight to Hell
Dr Farrell, I found your reaction to the following interesting, “This conflict Israel has with the rest of the world is a profoundly important problem that must be corrected” – sent a chill through me.
I have read many anti-zionist publications and most, it seems to me, eventually get to some such statement. It is the old nazi addage, “The Final Solution to the jewish question”. Frankly, after reading The Yehweh book, I wondered if this was where you were headed. I am relieved that this “…sent a chill” through you.
Except that the final.solution was deportation, not extermination. Had they wanted them dead, they would all be gone. The holoco$t is Jewish mythology. Yes there were camps, yes people suffered and died but it was no where near 6 million and the goal was not to kill all of them.
There is no name for what they did to innocent people. And god bless you when the next “nazi” generation, technically advanced in genetics and computer based control systems and logistics (we need no more Eichmanns), get you on their “deportation list”.
Let’s get one thing clear here. When we speak about americans, jews, germans, italians, russians, chinese, and whatever you want, cooks, taxidriver, mice, rats, elefants, etc. it’s a nasty generalization. Never forget the single person, an innocent believer, a well intentioned patriot, a loving father or mother, a child.
We can oppose to real politics, to ideologies, to things that happen and to those who act along these lines, but we can’t open a sack with the etiquette “american” or “white” or “blackbearded”, put into it all what fits to the marker, close the sack and throw it into the water.
Maybe I’m to much Kraut to understand this BS. Somebody already observed in another thread smartly: A Kraut is a Kraut is a Kraut.
I’m a Kraut.
Gute Nacht allerseits.
Then you have to explain where all of those Jews and others went and if you’re at all honest you’re not going to be able to do that.
Despite what Jeff Rense and his ilk claim the evidence for the Holocaust is very strong, much of that evidence was maintained by the US at the Berlin Document Center.
The Final Solution was nothing more than a deportation exercise? Are you for real spiritsplice? I would suggest you read the transcripts from the trial of SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Rudolf Hoss, the commandant of Auschwitz. Hoss admitted to being responsible for the deaths of 2.5 million people though that has been revised down to 1.5 million. And this was just one camp.
Deportation indeed. I am reminded of a quote from that very fine movie called “Conspiracy” which was about the Wannsee conference.
Major Lange: “I have the real feeling I “evacuated” 30,000 Jews already, by shooting them, at Riga. Is what I did “evacuation”? When they fell, were they “evacuated”? There are another 20,000, at least, waiting for similar “evacuation”. – I just think it is helpful to know what words mean… with all respect. ”
Deportation huh? Deport to where? The other world? Where are all those Jews of Europe who were deported back then today?
In 1939 there were some 3,474,000 Jews in Poland, by 1946 their were barely 300,000. So where were 3.1 million Jews deported to? Havana for a holiday? I think not.
I’ll tell you where most of the Jews of Europe are, they are underground. Put there as part of a diabolical purpose of extermination. They were shot, gassed, tortured and beaten to death by peoples gone mad. And not just the Germans, there were many different European nationalities involved as well. Europe as a whole, from the Atlantic coast to the steppes of Russia bears some of the responsibility of this hideous crime, not just the Germans.
However a far more hideous crime to me are those who would deny what happened. Those who say “Come on, it wasn’t all that bad”. The moronic David Irving’s of the world who try to revise the events of the WWII to suit their own anti Jewish sentiments. These people truly sicken me, because that lack of compassion and conscience tells me that some people have learned nothing from the past and that it could all happen again.
“I just think it is helpful to know what words mean… with all respect. ”
In this case Deportation meant Death.
Call it what it was.
Sheer Bloody Murder.
Very good Legio. I wish I could have said it that succinctly, but sometimes the elder years place an obstruction in the way. What have we come to when we debate whether 2 million or six million died…. or a few hundred thousand. It has been used by some parties to enrich themselves or glorify themselves, as is the case with all tragedies, but I won’t mention any names.
From what I’ve read there were millions killed and not exclusively jews(but the vast majority). Millions were also “deported”.
Millions in “Work-Slave” concentration camps.
The “6 million total” weren’t exterminated.
There has been many holocaust before & after “The Holocaust”.
Why, pray tell, is it “The Holocaust”?
I think it is called “The Holocaust” Robert because of the Industrial nature of the slaughter. This type of Bloody Murder has never been carried out to this scale and precision before in history. The camps, the rail lines. transporting people thousands of miles to the death factories, the scale is terrifying.
Mass death at slave labor would not count as “deported”, except to those who change the well accepted meanings of words for a particular end–as you’ve done.
My message was being composed while yours was being sent.
This one is in response to yours.
Yes, it “appears” to be separate in its deliberate scale & precision.
But there is another element that isn’t being unscored. And that is the deliberate propaganda machine engineered to milk its horror for profit. Both in terms of money & power.
I hope were not crossing messages again, when the nature of this, is …a very particuarly hot-wire to be working around.
Beaten to death,
Starved to death,
Worked to death,
Death by medical experimentation,
They all equal murdered in my book not “deported”, “evacuated”, “oops we didn’t mean it” or any other such sophistic claptrap. It all equals murder.
It all equals murder. A deliberate policy on the part of Nazi Germany. To cause death by all possible means.
The point is:
Not the number, or for that matter, the who.
The point is:
When will they come for you?
And if that isn’t direct enough.
When silence speaks too god damn loud,
Breach the gap and scream NO!, when they come for your neighbor, or another religion, or?
You get the point?
I get the point Robert,
“When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.”
That is it precisely.
And, sadly my friend, it is happening again.
“But there is another element that isn’t being unscored. And that is the deliberate propaganda machine engineered to milk its horror for profit. Both in terms of money & power.”
I won’t disagree with that Robert, it has been used precisely for power and profit unfortunately.
And this may have been the case from the start of the holocaust as Dr Farrell has pointed out in Yaweh The Two Faced God, there are links between the Zionists and the Nazis. I have come across these links in other works two, links between Adolf Eichmann, Reinhard Heydrich and the Zionists (Haganah).
This just adds an even more sinister element to those tragic events. That this event may have been engineered for other purposes as well is truly horrendous.
We’re definately on the same page legioXIV.
And that page is …truly horrendous.
Yes Robert, yes it is, and unfortunately I think that you are right, it is beginning to happen again. Sometimes when I wake up in the morning I have to remind myself that it is 2012 and not 1936, if you know what I mean.
It’s why I just started reading FEAR by Gabriel Chevallier. I just heard about it. That this book, went under the radar, attracted it to me.
Now that I’am deep into it, the begining quote takes on great signifance,
“I am not a sheep, which means I am nothing.”
It’s anti war.
He was a common soldier in WW1, and as we know, those who live(d) through it, will do everything they can to stop it.
He slaughters war on every page.
Especially those that enable(d) the fodder to the slaughter.
And yes! legioXIV
…it is playing out worldwide again, with the same old, world order female dog, dressed up as the NEW World Order.
(Just some new clothes & wiked toys, like a special effects, tightly controlled, worldwide media distribution network.
East India Company elites > Banksters/Intelligence elites 1936 > elites 2012.
Ancient Civiliztion > Babylon’s Banksters > East India Company > > > > ….
> Breakaway Civilization
Finally, this poem by robert service sums it all up.
What do you think of America’s prisons using slave labor?
Robert Barricklow :
In to the USA today? That’s a preposterous comparison; prison labor, which I’m not in favor of, is not slave labor nor work the prisoner to death labor. (Perhaps in Alabama in 1931 for the latter.)
Anyhow with current prison labor, there’s the fact that some form of court found these people guilty (don’t want to hear about Gitmo which should be closed today). Jews and Gypsies and homosexuals were convicted of a crime before being sent to build Nazi rockets? Bull.
Prison guards string up prisoners as examples to others laboring on munitions today in the US? Bull.
Insulting that you’d bring this idea up.
Why don’t you go start an antiprison labor blog, but you’re not going to win support implying an equivalence to the Nazis.
The illegal aliens in the U.S.?
Worldwide there is slavery, even more so than in Lincoln’s day.
I suppose, for me, this will lead to an agree to disagree.
There is a Prison Industrial complex in America that is only getting worse.
As to the blog >
I like Prison Planet for that.
Romanmel: as I replied on my Facebook page: I am not, and have never been, a Holocaust denier, a white supremacist, Neo-Nazi or anything else even close…. I allow these people to post their views here so that everyone can see that what I’ve been saying: that Nazism survived the war, is true, and that it has continued to subtly influence the views of people. There are people on this site, as Legio XIV points out, who resort to all kinds of sophistry to avoid the obvious: genocide was deliberately committed.
Let me think on all its english………..
It has never stopped.
Then I guess it’s about time.
Make it so.
I shall, but you will forgive me if I seem to be running late (?)
Where does it say that Stark has permission to fly armed drones in the USA?
Ironic how many weapons the Israelis sent Iran in the 1980s at the behest of Reagan; a president who really encouraged those christian wingnuts who’d “rapture” the world to save it.
i have had personal contact with these born again lunatics. Their “will to beleive” is sickness of proportions which are impossible to fathom
That’s an understatement.
Agreed with that my friend! One encounters this will to believe everywhere these days… to believe in every crazy scenario, but one: the decency of compassion and the need for good people to act.
I never believe anything I don’t already know
Laurel & Hardy
“Remember the old adage, you can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead.”
Faith is only implied knowledge.
Implied knowledge is ‘I-don’t-know.’
Faith is also a clear,
I don’t KNOW,
I can’t KNOW,
I don’t want to KNOW,
I certainly don’t want to learn !!!