Joseph comments on the Nazis-had-help-from-ET crowd:

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. willem on May 8, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    blogging on this site is like
    dropping a peddle into a pound
    some rings
    and than…..


    • robert on May 9, 2012 at 1:32 am

      Maybe there are more waves in the water we don’t see. How could we, if they don’t blog.
      Sometimes it is a one-way communication here, but for me it’s OK, I find sometimes interesting thoughts or links to interesting resources.
      Thank you for your links to John Searl. I didn’t know him.
      In another thread you commented on the video blogs of JF. I fully agree with you. I like to listen to him and I enjoy his humor.

  2. Jon Norris on May 7, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    Yeah, those would be some pretty pathetic aliens – Ferengi, maybe, or that pair of bounty hunters that SG-1 keeps tricking in the last few seasons?

    If they were so advanced, how come the Nazis lost?

    As soon as I learned about the black project capability to project thoughts and images into people’s minds, I seriously questioned ANY channeled material, since most of that has happened since the early 1960s, when such technology would have really hit its stride. I have yet to read anything from a “channeled” source which could not be thought up by a fairly average human, and certainly nothing ground breaking or earth shaking. In fact, many such “entities” are often dead wrong about things which can be checked easily with very little research. I know more about many subjects they discuss, and they seldom give really detailed or technical material. It is mostly fluff and vague generalizations.

    I agree about Occam’s Razor. Most people who “invoke” it use it incorrectly, even in it’s current distorted state. The usual take that “the simplest answer is always the best,” is flawed on so many levels, it would take pages to deconstruct it (define “simple,” define “best,” and so on). I have also never seen an actual proof of the validity of either the oversimplified version, nor of the actual original statement -“one ought not posit a mulitiplicity.” Long rant possible there.

    The usual use of today’s corrupted version is simply to shut down any innovation or thinking outside a given paradigm – simple is what someone agrees with or believes, and best is what is best for them.

  3. willem on May 7, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Dear Dr.

    since we are talking about the aliens (easter bunny etc.)…
    What is your opinion of John Searl, is he fake as well.
    The movie about him (the John Searl story) is very remarkable,
    but the question is: did that disc really fly back than?
    There is no smoking gun and it is weird that this flying activity
    was never taped on film (?) many photos though…

    SEG Mock Up vs SEG Prototype – Stages of R&D:

    – Giza Death Star Community

  4. LSM on May 7, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Hi Dr. Farrell,

    with all due respect, where does Richard Dolan’s research (you have several times stated that he is a “friend” and we all know what Dolan researches) fit into your latest broadcasted statements?-.

    please inform- this would interest me greatly-

    many regards,

    Larry in Germany

    • spiritsplice on May 7, 2012 at 8:15 pm

      You won’t get an answer. Apparently using names and invoking too much clarity is considered rude or something. Better to use euphemisms and unnamed references (some obvious, some not) to add to the confusion that needs to be cleared up.

  5. bdw000 on May 7, 2012 at 10:22 am

    “That’s what I’m trying to do.” And it is much appreciated.

    Regarding your’ views on Occam’s razor, I’m sure that would be EXTREMELY interesting (why don’t you throw it into that book you mentioned a long time ago that you might do some day about the problems with modern physics). I would pay DOUBLE for that book!!!!!!!! TRIPLE!!!!!

    There was a NOVA program from around 1980 called HITLER’S SECRET WEAPON. I think you can still get a VHS tape from Amazon. It’s also on Youtube.

    It can be found here (please cut and paste the link):

    To be honest I love this video. In just one hour of “public consumption video” you get such a good picture of what Nazi science was all about: very rare.

    I would recommend sending anyone who thinks that the Nazi’s MUST have had ET help to this video. It’s an hour long documentary on the V2 rocket. It is painfully obvious that they didn’t have any “help” in developing the V2. It was a classic case of basic science research and engineering refinement that took YEARS of work and TENS OF THOUSANDS of people working on it (including all the support personnel).

    One major hurdle was figuring out that the movable vanes for steering had to be moved from the large classic fins on the outside of the rocket, and placed directly into the exhaust stream. Until they figured that out, the rockets always “turned into the wind.”

    Von Braun interview clips are throughout the video. My favorite bit: after Himmler watched a test rocket destroy several air force planes next door to Penemunde, von Bruan said that Himmler’s response was to say: “Well . . . . .we seem to have a very effective CLOSE range weapon . . . .”

    Anyone interested in Nazi Germany should watch this video. It is very well done and very enjoyable. Even the music is perfect.

    • bdw000 on May 7, 2012 at 10:23 am

      oops: forget about cutting and pasting the link.

  6. willem on May 7, 2012 at 2:28 am

    Dear Dr.

    since we are talking about the aliens (easter bunny etc.)…
    What is your opinion of John Searl, is he fake as well.
    The movie about him (the John Searl story) is very remarkable,
    but the question is: did that disc really fly back than?
    There is no smoking gun and it is weird that this flying activity
    was never taped on film (?) many photos though…

    SEG Mock Up vs SEG Prototype – Stages of R&D:

    1st Visit to Searl Magnetics – March 2011:

    Russian Validations:


    Official Searl Sites:

  7. legioXIV on May 7, 2012 at 12:14 am

    I am reminded that someone once mentioned that these ‘ET’s’ had great technology but rotten pilots, they are forever crashing into things,

    • Daniel Jones on May 7, 2012 at 11:38 am

      No kidding huh?? They are supposedly capable of flying craft in intergalactic travel, but are utterly incompetent in our atmosphere.

      • MattB on May 9, 2012 at 3:00 am

        And they are terrible at avoiding thunderstorms. They always seem to crash flying in them, or abduct people during them. The mustn’t have urbanised areas where they come from either, they seem to always hang around Maine, or creepy desert areas around the world……

  8. Johnycomelately on May 6, 2012 at 8:36 pm


    Since you have delved into alchemy and ancient history, what is your view on the Saturn theory (it being earth’s original brown dwarf sun before being captured by the sun) that seems to be doing the rounds and it’s implications on ancient technology?

  9. Awake on May 6, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    I was looking up at a the sky filled with chemtrails a few months ago trying to identify the planes. Above the planes was mirror like saucer shaped craft hovering stationairy way up above the planes. It hovered in one place about 10 minutes before it slowly started moving. It sped up and quickly disappeared out of view flying away in an arching path. First time I’ve seen a UFO so now I’m a believer and have no doubt. But I do have many doubts about them being ET’s. Now a few years ago I was looking at high flying jet with some binoculars as I sometimes do to see if the chemtrailers are military craft. When one banked slightly I saw a large mirror finished suacer rideing on its back like I recently saw one of the space shuttles do. Strange thing was once it straightened you couldn’t see the disk on the jet from the bottom and it was as if the bottom had some sort of invisibility cloak. Only when the angle of the banking jet exposed the top of the craft could you see it. Now I’m a military brat and have seen the jets with the radar disks and this didn’t look like that was what it was carring. Got me wondering if these saucers take off and land from these long range jets now that I saw a saucer of the the same mirrored finish flying on its own around a lot of jet traffic chemtrailing.

    • Johnycomelately on May 6, 2012 at 8:45 pm

      Very interesting awake, last year I saw a flaming ball going up into the atmosphere very near an international airport in Melbourne and it split into two, both banking in opposite directions. I’ve lived near the airport my whole life and havent seen that signature before. I actually stopped the car and parked to see the event as the paasanger and I haven’t seen anything like it before.

      • Tim on May 7, 2012 at 5:05 am

        Hi J, was that on a Monday night about 5 weeks ago? I’m in Melbourne too.

        • paul degagne on May 7, 2012 at 5:36 am

          Lucky for you in Melbourne—- if this was so for you may have the ‘chance’ to meet up with others who share a similar interest in Farrell’s writing. A very good Opportunity this ‘FACE-TO-FACE” business rather than what we sort of ‘have to’ do via internet.

          If I ever hit one of the 750 million power balls ( never happen because I don’t buy tickets or pay a hidden form of taxation) I would Invite ALL THE MEMBERS OF THIS SITE ALONG WITH REGULARS and pay all transportation, lodging, admission costs so we could all see Farrell, afterwards go out and eat, the next time he gives a presentation at some convention or such!

          Wouldn’t that be terrific! ( maybe we could even end up liking each other (all of us and yes EVEN NAGA!), ha, ha!

          Could be for when the CHEMISTRY HITS THE FAN wonderful things happen! ( of course I would take my ‘wife’ along because she can see things I CANT SEE for youall are a very clever bunch of eccentrics!)

          So don’t pack your BAGS yet because it’s going to be a long time before I hit the Power-Ball, ha, ha!!!!

        • Johnycomelately on May 7, 2012 at 5:45 am


          No this was last year but about 5 weeks ago a friend saw a ball of light (at night) baking at sharp angles (zig zagging) and coming to a halt instantaneously and moving in the opposite direction, he confided in me as to what he saw but was skeptical that it was a craft as he considered the g forces would be too great for a human body.

          This is only conjecture but Dr Farrell’s book Phylosopher’s stone talks about negative gravity matter which may make sense of high g force manouvers.

          • Enlil's a Dog on May 7, 2012 at 7:00 am

            Johnny, Tim..

            I’m just outside Woodend between Hanging Rock and Romsey..I can tell you I see some weird shit out here at night – and I don’t mean ghosts of schoolgirls from Appleyard College either lol….Strange lights, strange sounds…If I wasn’t convinced that it was some kind of science at play I’d be scared shitless!! Some of the locals have heard and seen the same things and there is even one old bloke down the road from me that seems to think that the sounds are caused by some resonance emminating between Hanging Rock and Camel Bluff, east of the Mt Macedon summit…The sound is very similar to the sound that creature made in that crappy movie, Cloverfield (if you’ve seen it), but not as loud…Very weird!

          • Tim on May 7, 2012 at 8:25 pm

            Interesting, I’m in Fairfield now, I lived in Melton for a while and observed an eerie orb in 2000 but I do know of a whole range of paranormal ufo type events in the area over the years, there seems to be some sort of magnetic anomaly around the hills near Gisborne. The Melton police chased a baffling something in the sky between Bacchus Marsh and Melton back in 1980, it violated security at the Army Signal Station at Rockbank.. thanks Bill Chalker. Apologies to Dr Joseph for our local gossiping. I’m almost IT illiterate, could us Skippys hook up some other way?

        • legioXIV on May 7, 2012 at 2:45 pm

          Well there seems to be a lot of Melbourne people here, I’m from Surrey Hills. I haven’t seen this but I suppose that I am too close to the city. I am moving to the country soon and who knows what can be seen then.

      • MattB on May 9, 2012 at 3:02 am

        Nah mate, that was Melbourne’s ‘arts capital’ reputation leaving for Sydney 😉

  10. Kent Brashear on May 6, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    Good show, Doc. Your best I’ve seen and your laughter was infectious.

    Old Cap’n Kent, Hutto, Texas

  11. SSNaga on May 6, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    R.A. Boulay, 1997
    (Rene took 10 years writing this book. 152 references are given for source material. [Icke is unmentioned.])

    (Quoted 11 times in JF’s, “Cosmic War.”)

    “An ancient source in the Haggadah relates how Adam and Eve lost their reptilian skin or hide. The first result was that Adam and Eve became naked.

    ‘Before their bodies had been overlaid with a horny skin, and eveloped with the cloud of glory. No sooner had they violated the command given them that the cloud of glory and the horny skin dropped from them, and they stood there in their nakedness, and ashamed.’

    It is clear that their nakedness had to do with losing their ‘horny skin’ and their ‘cloud of glory.’ Similar descriptions are found in the old Rabbinical legends. Describing man before the Fall, it was said that ‘his skin was as bright as daylight and covered his body like a luminous garment.'” (Pg. 122)

    “The Anunna loved their reptilian appearance, their lustrous and gleaming bodies; mammal traits were repugnant to them.” (Pg.126)

    The Energy Field that surrounds man & all living things, is composed of Two Aspects: The Shell Crust, and the Shell Membrane. Within, is the “naked form.”

    What was the appearance of the hueman-spawning Watchers?

    The volume should be studied. Failure to look deeper, is a choice. ‘Fawning’ mindlessness is a common failing; indulge at your own risk.

  12. Robert Barricklow on May 6, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Just another religious meme being engineered by terrestrial minds on steroids.
    Then perpetrated upon the gullible, who gobble up these bogey extraterrestrial memes,
    every damn, breakfast of champions morning.

    Fox-news types, stuck-out in left field.

    • paul degagne on May 7, 2012 at 3:16 am


      Ever wonder that this ‘Meme Movement or SCHOOL” uses the broken up word ME-ME-ME-ME? It is because it’s a product of that kind of Generation.

      Do you want to be like that? ( I don’t think you do?) If so continue to use that word to represent unconscious contents or ARCHETYPEs. ( better yet never think meme—- THINK ARCHETYPE whenever that BEHAVIORAL STIMULUS REACHES YOUR EARDRUMS!

      I remember reading some of the ways the Nazi Party used to get to the SANE GERMANS. Day in and day out if someone raised their right hand and showed you their palm along with HEIL HITLER — day in and day out all day long and you knew you weren’t buying what the ‘thugs’ were selling so you were intent on at least staying uncontaminated by it at least internally or subjectively BUT YOU had to raise your right hand (like a puppet on a string) to those bastards who if you didn’t would run and TATTLE that he ‘ …didn’t return the salute and snarled at me when I did it..!” which can be a PRETTY RISKY thing to do in that atmosphere. (After a while -how many people human as they are finally said to themselves — “I am so tired and had enough of this martyr business — I might as well DO AS THE ROMANS DO and join…. to save my own ME-ME-ME neck! After all it’s the only neck I have, ha, ha!)

      Does this sound like INTELLECTUALS or even some brand new NEO-CONSERVATIVES?

      Talk about an almost ‘perfected’ Skinner(ian) fantasy! ( the morality doesn’t matter — the program worked and gave the Nazis sic (us-the user so much POWER, thank heavens it was only TEMPORARY but their still in their backrooms and desert hiding places dreaming up stuff to make it PERMANENT and what is really SCARY is some of these people have the HIGHEST IQs around. ( how can we place some “”””checks and balances”””” with these guys without at the same time blocking the potential good they could accomplish if they didn’t have such TWISTED MINDS! ( place them with LOVING MOTHERS but that’s another story for another time/)

      Stick with some of the OLD-FASHION stuff for not all TRADITION is fake or hypocritical!


      Following biological genetics and physical systems like that is one thing and at times right on the money But using the METAPHOR to replace gene activity which “PSYCHE” Concepts is one of a LAYMAN’S most common ‘mistakes’ and one PROGRAMMER’S really have an easier time using. ( the trick is to be so smart you can reprogram the programmers, ha, ha! …but at this point in my life I don’t feel it’s worth the effort. )

      • Robert Barricklow on May 7, 2012 at 12:30 pm

        Paul, as you might surmise I enjoy Lewis Carrol/My view of life is, that it is next to impossible to convince anybody of anything, because one of the harderst things in the world to convey, MEANing ACURATELY from one mind to another.
        Now, with that preface, lets move in-sync with a new generation of cognitive psychologists who are beginning to discover how poor we are at choosing exactly what to believe. To begin with, we are, in the main, incredibly gullible, because our higher cognition is essentially a botched extention of our perceptual systems, and we rarely have to question whether those systems are telling the truth. We have a distinct tendancy to believe the first thing we’re told over any subsequent version, because the first version of truth will always be the one we rehearse in our brains.

        • Paul De Gagne on May 7, 2012 at 2:28 pm


          I agree with the New View of the EMERGENT Cognition rather than bloched extensions but I do things ‘backwards’ for I “”””believe”””” the most cognitive psychology has to offer me at this time is that it is a condition or state or is a skill like carpentry or masonery or etc. You learn it and then go on to Perception. (once you learned it – cognition begins to feel like INTUITION which it partially is but you had to first sweat and discipline yourself to learn the book before you throw away the book and its rules and go one with this BEING-IN-WORLD!

          I am not trying to discourage you for I like the road you seem to be on. (there is this thing call COGNITIVE ARCHAEOLOGY that shows GREAT PROMISE if nobody SCREWS IT UP IN THE MAKING OR DEVELOPMENT!

          Yes, ‘convince anybody of anything is a very difficult thing to do. One could say don’t even try and use some Socratic method of Questioning by letting the other person think they decided for themselves. This way like an old feminist complaint DISAPPEARS— Mother —- I rather do it myself TURNS INTO — I have done this my self!

          Much satisfying>

          • Robert Barricklow on May 7, 2012 at 4:24 pm

            Several good books on that have just come out with a focused lense on cognitive archaeology.
            Thjere are many, but 3 I’ve recently read are stand outs.
            1) Folly of Fools/The Logic of Deceit and Self-Deception by Robert Trivers
            2) Wired For Culture/Origins of the Human Social Mind by Mark Pagel
            3) The Social Conquest of Earth by Edward O. Wilson

            They are all OUTSTANDING! / but Folly of Fools is guns-drawn serious.

          • Robert Barricklow on May 7, 2012 at 6:49 pm

            Paul in addressing your post(s):
            Expert language has been dumbed-up. The order would be Finance at #1, because it’s the last thery want you to understand, for as Henry Ford famously said/If there American People knew how Banks actually worked; there would be a revolution overnight. #2, running neck & peckerneck with Finance is Law. Another tool of the elite that is becoming more & more obvious a injustice runs amok. Of course there are many, but generally speaking there is an inverse ratio to the language/the more important ii is to understand, the more dumbed-up the #1, #2, ect numbered doll’s going to be.

          • Robert Barricklow on May 7, 2012 at 7:00 pm

            The brain’s capacity in the Nethanderal is significantly larger than our ancestors at the time. The question is not capacity but how the system is engineered. Of course language is the key here as well. There are a couple of significant factors. The conscious basically encompasses the unconscious. The uinconscious here is counterintuitive, in that it plays the MOST significant role. An understated & really unknown factor in our times is the role of cognitive viruses involved in our brains evolutionary growth. Unfortunatey, these two devices are linked together in an extemely tight CONTROL/Deception interface. The “growth stated Before language cognition(sparked ingintion). First it was visual. The visual evelove with the auditory. The unconscious then took the driver’s seat with visually linking the auditory in a two tiered language system, running in parallel but NOT in sync.

          • Robert Barricklow on May 7, 2012 at 7:12 pm

            As far as your plus/minus reference, a friend of mine uses his +1/-1, +5/-5 system quite winning well in black jack. What ever works!

            Again in language or very complicated systems wher explaination is virtually impossibe. In this case the best way is to use the Japanese system of training for the male vs female chickens. It is a proce4s/system of doing/absorbing through time/dreaming sequence.

            In your examination of memory, it is absolutely, unequivocally suspect peroid! And right so, as it was part & partial to our evolution in solving the TOO Damn Much electromagnetic sensory infomation to be processed. Enter the unconscious with the subservient role of the conscious to fill in the gaps in a storied conceptual context manner.

          • Robert Barricklow on May 7, 2012 at 7:17 pm

            Finally nothing.
            The BIG three -creation/nothing/disintegration.
            Each are intimately embraced in an everlasting kiss of conciousness. The evolution is ever changing. The war, ever lasting. And time is caught between the sheets, looking for a way out, of it’s endless imprisonment.

          • paul degagne on May 8, 2012 at 4:09 am


            You are Keen. I read your language and see how advanced you are in this what Carl Jung used to call BRAIN PSYCHOLOGY SPECIALIZATION ( Neurology in our day). What he means is that the “Psyche” is reduced to few minor molecular-chemical interactions and that’s it.

            HOW SURE of this are You????????.

            Your mention of a doing/absorbing and a time/dreaming shows me your also into “Experience which is a good sign – it’s often referred to as either experimentalism or a component of experimenting in the sense we don’t control events and attempt to just “Let Events Happen— just observe despite the contradiction of observing for observing (is not PASSIVE) and influences the OTHER. (back to basics and the three R’s)

            You wrote -“Subservient role of the conscious to fill in the gaps in a storied conceptual manner. I confess to you ROBERT i still get impressed by such skill as yours in the use of technical language even though I know I should quit this but I don’t for highly technical language indicates to me a level of proficiency or Intelligence which I respect but no longer BOW DOWN TO?

            So we fill in the gaps ( the Personal Unconscious) as you say? Equivalent to emptying out the Ocean a bucket-full at a time! Theoretical possible but try it sometime and see how long it takes before You say to your self “I Quit!” (It’s funny in a way but some people get all huffy and puffy when it is pointed out to them?)

            ‘Healing Fictions”– as a famous Archetypal Psychotherapist once called psychoanalysis. (James Hillman) Are we to disprove and I might say — DISENCHANT someone’s good results by correcting their logical-claims to the point where they “quit” what’s working and HEALING them and go back to what doesn’t work and get sicker or return to sickness— because it isn’t RATIONAL/LOGICAL? ( of course not! I believe Neitzsche called it FIBS in the interest of Life? ( yeah Paul— toss in a few big names in the illusion that it adds to validity? We are all Guilty of it mad-mad-mad Madison Avenue Techniques?)

            You see that ROBERT — I know you do. YET — You write the CONSCIOUS basically encompasses the UNCONSCIOUS.

            Spoken like a true School of Cognitive Psychology Abherent or a COGNITIVE SPECIALIST! Giddy-up beautiful team of horses only the horses are behind you. They will follow your order and GALLOP!

            BACKWARDS — THAT IS! ( don’t get me wrong Robert for someone once said that when the ANGEL OF HISTORY was thrown out of the Garden it wasn’t heads first — so backwards is still FORWARDS or as is written in ‘rear-view-mirrors’ — Objects may be bigger (I say closer) than they appear?

            Indeed the CONSCIOUS is Captain of the Ship but the Ship is floating on the Ocean. Did you see how big those WAVES GET? So go on believing your the Captain which you most certainly are but I’ll pray when a monster wave throws you overboard that you survive to ‘WAKE UP ON SOME BEAUTIFUL TROPICAL ISLAND. ( without the soccar ball like Tom Hanks used for Companionship because he had no guy FRIDAY? HA, HA! but then again Hanks is filthy rich laughing with no need to go to BANKS any more because now they come to us?)


            Ever watch those teenage girls at it? ( I often do while riding the Bus. They look like they are having so much fun enjoying each others company and having a good time while their at it in what for many people is a very ‘DE/IMPERSONALIZED AND DREADFUL SPACE == A sic so-called PUBLIC space called a bus?

            I imagine a ‘fit of the giggles serves some positive-functional purpose (makes a long trip across the city seem short like when reading an interesting book or the ‘rare’ intelligent conversation between strangers.)

            To me it looks like JOY! ( oh, oh — As you might say to me Paul, youI better watch out for —objects appear closer than they look.)

            Robert, I have a few quotes you may find interesting in response to yours. One is sort of funny but the last is very dreadful but is in sync with this ANTI-CIVILIZATION debate that is still RAGING beneath HISTORICAL WATERS?

            I’ll place them in an another entry right after this one?

            One more thing and I cant phantom it is ‘YOU MOTIVATED ME and I can appreciate this for it gets me back in ‘practice’ off my DEAD INTELLECTUAL GLOBUS MAXIMUS!

          • paul degagne on May 8, 2012 at 4:43 am


            By the way — I really enjoyed that quote about PARCULARALITY — a real gem! (keep-em-comming, please.)

            Kind of reminds me of a character in a Dicken’s Play — where the little boy says to Mister So and So —“Could I have some more porridge please?”

            Well — I am starving for Wit!

            First Quote:

            “It is difficult to make a man understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it.”

            (Upton Sinclair, cited in Gore, 2007, p. 211)

            Second Quote:

            “Motivation can trump cognition.”

            (cited from Fooling Ourselves: Self-deception, Religion, and Terrorism by
            Harry C. Triandis, preface, p. IX.)

            Third Quote:

            “A man was hanged who had cut his throat, but who had been
            brought back to life. They hanged him for suicide. The doctor
            had warned them that it was impossible to hang him as the
            throat would burst open and he would breathe through the
            throat. The wound in the neck immediately opened and the man
            came back to life again although he was hanged. it took time to
            convoke the aldermen to decide the question of what was to be
            done. At length aldermen assembled and bound up the neck
            below the wound until he died. Oh my Mary, what a crazy
            society and what a stupid civilization.”

            (quoted by E. H. Carr, The Romantic Exiles,
            Harmondsworth, 1949m o. 389.)

          • Robert Barricklow on May 8, 2012 at 9:16 am

            Our view of our motivations, and society, is like a jigsaw puzzle w/most of the pieces missing. We fill in blanks and make guesses, but the truth about us is far more complex and subtle than can be understood by the straight forward calculations of conscious & rational minds. The TRUTH IS that our unconscious minds are Active, Purposeful, and Independent.

          • paul degagne on May 8, 2012 at 10:17 am

            Yes Robert,

            The Unconscious is a Great Mystery. ( I trust the Unconscious but others treat it as a feared enemy (not that it doesn’t warrent caution. It most certainly does at times but I like to believe if one meets the unconscious half way one benefits?) I think what ever that can be ‘personalize/personified ABOUT the Unconscious is our own useful and sometimes absurd ‘piece’ of the puzzle and pragmatically if it serves us well then we keep it?

            The Ecological Indian has a good ‘sense’ or a head start in this matter but they are all still human and as a result have the same human frailities (but I believe not on the same SCALE OF DESTRUCTIVENESS as Western Civilization’s Assembly Line Products?)

            I have a feeling you know all this already! ( Death is still new and Sex is no longer Taboo as it was in Freud’s Europe. So the Repression got transformed or changed neighborhood into ‘POLITICS?” )

            Yes, DEATH will be the new/old repression after everyone gives up on politics. I PREDICT they will be a NEW BATCH of people to start the whole MERRY-GO-ROUND over again with a slightly different ‘slant.” ( by that time ‘our bones’ will be shinny white!)

            For a while I was getting fascinated by Julie Kristeva’s notion of “Abjection.” Until, I got side-tracked by French F. Celine. Kristeva is just small fry (a plastic imitation—Hungarian actually.) for Celine and others like him have the real low-down on life who not just talks and writes about it like Intellectuals do but actually LIVES IT ( I guess in a Hemingway way?) —dangerous and risky as that is!

            In France Intellectuals are the CELE—BRAT— TIES ( Vain and Conceited as many Parisians are or were for it seems to be a cultural (heredity?) trait that goes a long way back. I like what Celine had to say about French-Peoples — Like Californian discontents they kept on moving West chasing the Sun til they could go no further? ( In a way like San Francisco — a comfortable but a strange place — for the foreign immigrants it’s a place to begin or have a new start while for many escaping from the SQUARE Mid-West and other Pilgrim lands —-it’s the End of the ROAD == Golden Gate Bridge. (Camera’s all over that bridge decades before it became fashionable for if not the ‘lemmings’ would be DROPPING OUT like Moths to the Flame! And it costs the City much time and money to find their decrepit/decomposing/water logged bodies!)

            All we have in our INSANE (Derrick Jensen) Culture is dumb-clucks like lady-ga-gas come and go depending on sales volume.

            Pretty Bleak but I don’t care for it keeps me busy watching the PARADE like George Carlin once said. (and he was serious!)

      • Robert Barricklow on May 7, 2012 at 12:41 pm

        Our semantic(meaning)_ and episidic(personal event) memories are seperated in our brains-and yet we don’t appear to care that our referencing system is screwy. We are riddled with a “confirmation bias”, a strong propensity to “believe” only those ideas that support or at least loosely collaborate w/our existing beliefs. To add to that, we indulge in energetic “institutinal reasoning” picking apart others’ beliefs if they conflict w/our own. This faulty belief-acquisition system leaves us all compromised. We are a species that has been crafted by two replicators. Our first 2/3 were built by cranes commissioned by genes. The last 1/3 was built by cranes commissioned by a replicator unique to our own species, the memes. We are ALL subject to memetic engineering. We are Meme Apes.

  13. paul degagne on May 6, 2012 at 8:30 am

    The UNKNOWN or the blank, black space between the stars at night make for a terrific Film Screen for any kind of Projections! (I am not saying this is always the case?)

    Did you see that holograph display on U-Tube presented in some town square in Holland or some place like there? I don’t remember the exact location for I got EXCITED seeing this —- If is looks this good through the medium I was watching it on then —-HOW MUCH BETTER or more real would it look and feel if I was one of the spectators in the Crowd that night? ( I can remember how lovely it looked seeing various sea creatures swimming around up above the Village Square?)

    A fine example of a Baudrilaudian theme where the COPY is more real than the REAL?

    This theme of a Hollywood/Pentagon Union in creating ‘false flag’ UFOs reminds me of something I always WONDERED ABOUT.

    Do Gypsie Psychics who look into Crystal Balls actually see internal states ‘projected” into the round-glass-orb (or look into their brains via a glass ball? Sometimes my thought processes or this Phantasmagoria our heads looks like we’re am watching TV with our built in biological virtual reality machines?)

    Then again —- Gypsies are noted to be big con artists going around GYPING people. (forgive the pun for I couldn’t resist! There must be something AUTHENTIC to this SEER DIVINATION for I am almost certain gypsies are not pulling the same malarky amongst themselves?)

  14. SSNaga on May 6, 2012 at 7:50 am

    Question: Does it “hurt” to be trapped within a concrete block, and not know (Know) the True Nature of the Field-Realm one is part of? Answer: At first; then one thinks it is “home.” Creation Is Life, both organic & inorganic. Talk about blind kookery. Little saplings sometimes grow to be big redwoods. Sometimes the ignorant egg cracks & produces realization when the creature within emerges without (another lifetime, perhaps).

    • paul degagne on May 7, 2012 at 3:40 am


      I don’t know if it is made out of Concrete? ( cant say for sure at this time?)

      But —- It sure FEELS that way!!!!!!

      Maybe it’s just archaic ICE starting to melt little by little under this beautiful Sun. ( THEN AGAIN — i think it has more to do with the magnificent DAZZLING DARKNESS as the poet Baudelaire puts it in his Fluers de Mal and IF SO we are in for one HELL OF a time even though as they ( the purple Barney and Smuf types) still say:

      “Be Grateful for Living in Interesting Times!” ( I don’t know about that either but I recognize there is some HEALING POWER in such a statement which just might save MY OWN COCKY NECK, HA, HA!!!!!

      • SSNaga on May 7, 2012 at 4:08 am

        Sorta like, “being so smart,” you completely flip. This is a Composite Construct. Brown is a “composite” (Earth). It is fool-ism to follow or accept, ignorantly, the unconscious “love n lieghters” or the “intellect-uall dissenters.” Somewhere in the middle, the composite (concrete) begins to melt. The synthesis is an amalgam of particulars; blending produces a wholeness. Intense stuff.

    • paul degagne on May 7, 2012 at 7:29 am


      Human’s are one tough Species. ( they can survive and thrive in the Ice up North or the desserts down South. Try asking LEO THE LION if he is tough and mighty enough to do that?)

      I suppose it hurts in the beginning but afterwards not really?( ask any Russian Peasant?)

      The special elite nazis found out the ‘hard way’ when they smashed a blow on the Russian Oxens’ Heads (ha,ha). The Russians just shook their collective heads a little bit then

      ——Good Old Mother Nature or Necessity stepped in with her 40degrees below ZERO temperatures with no adequite supplies?

      ———UNLIKE THE fair-skinned, blond blue-eyed MASTER RACE, —- what a terrible joke on those poor Germans and ‘perfect justice too because can anyone say, “THEY DIDN’T HAVE IT COMING TO THEM!!!! (when they themselves went looking for trouble?)”

      Erich Fromm once stated People can adapt to a sick society but at the ‘end of the production line will be “sick individuals.”

      Do we really want that as a ‘model? ( but that is what we got—and millions and millions have to pay the price)”

      No, of course not. ( I may ‘set’ your broken leg into a cast and it heals but if I did it INCORRECTLY then you may be healed but WALK KIND OF FUNNY?)

      Anyway — It’s all just MOOT for us smurfs because none of us will ever get the chance to make a difference in the BIG BOYS GAMES!

      Just go to the Library and sneeze a couple of times – I am today? DePaul University’s Library—- the grounds have a good feel to it but not like over in HARVARD when one can sit in the same chair in a lecture hall as Emerson and Thoreau. I might have but I know I have in the same hall for a night-course called “Survey of Eastern Religions?”

      They don’t put signs on the bottom of the seat saying Emerson laid his ass down in this very seat, Ha,ha, ham!

      That’s not the kind of ‘DISTINCTION” they like UP THERE!

      See you letter (Naga the) alligator !(in more reptilian ways than one, ha,ha!)

      • SSNaga on May 7, 2012 at 8:33 am

        Try, “Serpent.” The gators are a dif species, heh? (Show some respect! Sheesh.) … I Am Northern bred (MN), so know about the cold (war) condition. One entire month (’round ’79) the temps never reached above -30! Brr. (Duluth).

        • Paul De Gagne on May 7, 2012 at 2:39 pm


          Is it true the Crocks have pea-sized brains?

          Maybe it’s because they are such ‘proficent killers’ they have survived so long? If so that isn’t a good sign for us who are the NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK!

  15. HAL838 on May 6, 2012 at 6:54 am

    As if THAT all isn’t enough,
    there is still a very missing First Cause !

    Sorry, I would not have gotten this in on one post.

  16. HAL838 on May 6, 2012 at 6:52 am

    Some seem to think that EVERYTHING can be attributed
    ro Alien X-T.
    This is an awful self-put down for the human race that
    only can be a self accusation of utter and sheer
    [of the severely retarded nature] stupidity

    No “rainman” here.

  17. HAL838 on May 6, 2012 at 6:48 am

    A very big dose of FAITH is needed and very necessary
    for this new religion, which, make no mistake, it is !

    Any “expert” / “scientist” can say that a thing is foreign to
    THIS planet ! [Money always helps here, too]
    I’m sure that such a one has seen everything there is to see
    on and of THIS planet. Yes? CERTAINLY NOT !

    He also knows all the technology available, secret or otherwise

  18. HAL838 on May 6, 2012 at 6:43 am

    Your thinking cap is showing.

    The whole UFO crap / flap
    is awefully and suspiciously akin to
    the religious order of the moneyed elite
    plans to herald their New World Order
    of tyranny and genocide through faux money
    that only THEY control to further control you

  19. michel on May 6, 2012 at 5:47 am

    some people are obsessed by ufo’s and aliens.its an escape from reality and logical and free thinking. if if there are ufo’s were are a part of their ‘sightseeing tour including some failed planets’ keep up the good job. michel,netherlands

    • Floyd on May 7, 2012 at 4:59 am

      Right on the money.

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