I had to laugh when I ran across this one at, a site I respect for its consistent rationality. Well, we all have our hiccups from time to time, and it appears that just had a hiccup...or maybe, something else is going on. We'll get to the "something else" in a minute, but anyway, here's the article:

Soviet find of water on the Moon in the 1970s ignored by the West

The Soviets, just to refresh everybody's memory, were indeed saying a lot of strange things back during the "space-race" days, things like..."Gee, the Moon is an awfully big satellite to be where it is, doing what it does, in a nearly perfect circular orbit at just the right distance from the sun to block out its body and leave only the corona showing during eclipses. Why, if indeed the Moon was 'captured' as it flew by the Earth, or fissioned from the Earth aeons ago, its orbit wouldn't be doing that, its orbit would be very elliptical, after all, things don't slow down when they enter a planetary gravity well, they accelerate. Sure looks to us like the Moon was parked there...heck, it might even be artificial." Behind the snickers and chuckles however, everyone with a modicum of physical mechanics knew the Russians had a point. Even Newton complained that the Moon was the only thing that gave him a headache. It simply shouldn't be there doing what it is doing. Such thoughts no doubt were shoved deeply down, out of view, discussed only in huddled worried conferences...for the implications.... and, after all, we had just been there. Of course, all this was met with ingenious, nifty explanations that it was all perfectly explainable and that the public needn't worry about all the nonsensical implications spilling out from such ridiculous and "obvious Commie propaganda." We can look forward to even more ingenious explanations in the future, I'll bet.

But back to the Russians. They followed that one up with another whopper, though, and that was the Martian Moon Phobos, which, once again, should not be where it is doing what it is doing, and this time the Soviets brazenly offered the suggestion - now all but forgotten - that the whole blamed thing might be artificial, or at least, once again, parked there. One Soviet scientist even noted that the whole discovery of Phobos and Deimos - Mars' two moons - was itself very odd, since they weren't discovered until the late 19th century, when the telescopic technology certainly existed before that to discover them, and when Mars was such an object of fascination to astronomers of the 19th century. His conclusion? They weren't discovered because they simply weren't there...

Then came the announcements about water on our dear neighbor Selene, which announcements, we are told, the West ignored. Really? Do we really believe the West, and particularly, the USA and the goods folks at the then ARPA (predecessor to DARPA), at the Pentagon, at NASA and a host of other agencies, just had a good chuckle about water on the Moon and then forgot about it? If you believe that, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. Cheap.

No, I rather suspect the Soviets and their announcements and finds were taken very seriously, and very secretly.  And it does still give me pause that with the recent announcements by Russia, the ESA, and China that they want to send manned missions to our planetary neighbor, that the USA and NASA's statements that they want our landing sites to be regarded as "historic sites" with "zones of exclusion" around them to be about a bit more than just protecting some sites... I rather suspect that the real reason might be to protect some technologies, or to keep secret whatever we might have found up there, or both...

...and we can bet that behind the assurances of those nations that they will respect those "historic sites", that they will not do so...

So what about this strange article? Well, my opinion is it's more "meming," a distraction, in other words, to deflect attention away from the probability that these findings were most likely not ignored, they merely went deeply black. Let's not forget that NASA, by its own charter, as Richard Hoagland and others have so often pointed out, falls under the department of defense, and that its findings, if affecting the national security, would perforce be classified.

The space race is on again folks. It may be quiet, it may not even be talked about all that much given the craziness going on right here on terra firma, but it's definitely on again... and the reasons and implications are really all too clear.

See you on the flip side.

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Hammer on June 11, 2012 at 1:52 am

    I love the way the russian news media release their reports in english: “Soviet Reports of Water on the Moon Ignored by West”. Now, in proper english, it should be written,”soviet reports of water on the moon ignored by THE west”. I have some russian colleagues here in Berlin, great people, but their gramatical structure as far as “cases” like deffinate articles is even more screwy than the german “der,die, and das”. In english we have one deffinate article: “the”, the knife, the fork, the spoon. At least an english speaker can sometimes recognize german words in writing. But russian, forget it.

    • Hammer on June 11, 2012 at 1:58 am

      By the way Dr. Farrell, what are those strange rune-looking symbols or writing around the bottom of “Die Glocke”?

  2. Kent on June 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Firstly, or is it just first? Don’t offer my bridge for sale. I paid a likeable and I’m certain honest fellow, $728.00 for the Brooklyn Bridge quite a number of years ago. He gave me a bill of sale. I’ll have to admit that I haven’t been receiving my toll fees for its use as promised.

    This site’s members and host are just too smart and well informed for me to make any meaningful contributions. But I sit in my cell with little contact to people so from time I feel compelled to write something nonsensical just to assert my presence in the world of cyber land.

    Buy silver and don’t keep money in the banks or it will disappear.

    Water on the moon? Why not?

    • Concerned on June 11, 2012 at 12:04 am

      Buy silver? You sound like another one fooled by the Austrian Economics of Ludwig von Mises and Israel Kirzner. Goldman, Rothschild, and Ben Shalom Bernanke, etc., WANT people to switch over to silver and gold, because they already own most of it.

  3. marcos anthony toledo on June 10, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Water has been confrimed on the Moon,Mars, the Galloean moons of Jupiter and one of obesSaturn’s moons. AS for Demos and Phobos read Gullivers travels written in the early 18th century you figure that out.

  4. Concerned on June 10, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    I’m not surprised, considering the west is controlled by misanthropists –creatures such as Goldman, Rothschild, and Ben Shalom Bernanke. The Russians know the score.

  5. HAL838 on June 10, 2012 at 9:37 am

    The whole solar system has been mapped using vehicles
    of the real force, anti-gravity, producing gravity and its
    tech developement.
    That’s the secret that gravity has been keeping
    from most of us.

    Remember centrifugal force?
    that it doesn’t exist except as the opposing
    centripetal force?
    The ones we general think of as real are only the
    ‘forces’ produced by the real opposing forces.
    This is perhaps the best known illustration.

    At any rate, to be repetitive once again:
    There were/are so many things that were/are
    thought to have been impossible, now realitites,
    why not time travel?
    Because YOU have been fooled, propagandized,
    and brainwashed to think of it as impossible and utter
    nonsense by the illustration of ridiculous time paradoxes
    that magically go away when the true nature of time is underdstood.

    So that
    Quantum Creation IS a reality because it simply IS.

    • Awake on June 10, 2012 at 11:10 pm

      Speaking of creation.




      The Higg’s boson particle. The theoretical smallest and most elementary particle that makes up the foundation of the entire Universe and whose interaction creates all of matter’s phenomenons. Today’s scientists search for this elusive particle with a collider in the belief that this particle must be the most finite and smallest particle possible. The God particle may be an appropriate nickname after all and if my theory proves correct then they are looking in the wrong direction and at the wrong scale of being. The whole Universe in my opinion is one gigantic particle of energy. But it is not the only gigantic particle of energy. The others are of similar mass and net charge and thus repel one another in what I will call the Ultraverse.

      The Universes are Higg’s boson particles and independently have very little differences in their net charges and thus function in a like charge manner with one another and appear to repel one another in the Ultraverse. The Universes are not exactly the same size nor have the same densities of net polarized celestial bodies of like charges always facing towards each other on their outer shells either. These discrepancies between alternative Universe causes their motion through and about one another in a synchronized but subtly ever changing dance.

      Now here comes the exciting part. Yep, you guessed it, we’re going to learn about creation. What started it in our Universe and how we and all the Galaxies came to be. Its all quite simple and logical, really.

      Remember, not all Universes are exactly equal and more specifically not all Universes are fully charged because of these discrepancies. But over all the Universes have achieved a sort of rhythmic, ever so slightly changing but infinitely returning to a sort of balanced relationship with one and another. Matter of fact, this delicate dance and sharing of each other’s substance is what holds them all together and from drifting infinitely apart. None of them can be complete without the others and it is this cycle of completion and loss that creates us all and destroys us all almost like clock work.

      When a Universe that is missing a part of itself comes close to Universes that is more complete it pulls parts of the adjacent Universes to itself until they become equally and like charged. This is a never ending process and all the Universes caught up in this dance eventually loose part of themselves to another neighbor that has a slightly less charge. This forces the previously balanced neighbors to draw from each other again until they become momentarily balanced enough not to collide with one and another.

      As long as a Universe of the Ultraverse isn’t fully charged creation and evolution takes place. But when a Universe approaches a full charge all of its creations are pulled apart as all of it’s voids become filled with evenly dispersed and fully balanced energy once again. Everything in the Universe ceases to be separate and all is one solid energy field devoid of all matter. But this solid energy state is never permanent and eventually a Universe that is incomplete will find it’s turn next to the whole Universe and will balance out against the whole leaving it incomplete once again.

      What a wondrous and glorious event it is when a Universe becomes incomplete again. Imagine a highly pressurized container rapidly lose some of its air to another less pressurized container until their pressure balanced. The gas particles would then proceed to spread out evenly to fill the newly formed vacuum in the container and gaps between particles would start to form. As they spread to try and become evenly dispersed some would spin one way and some others. Oppositely spinning and connected particles forming a combined positive charge with their marriage could stay together long enough to possibly attract a lone particle which in comparison to the combined energy mass of the pair could be observed as being a negative charged particle. And all the other mini dances and evolutions that then proceed to take place in this newly fragmented Universe begins to form the first gaseous matter which through other progressive subatomic and atomic reactions starts creation as we know it all over again.

      So there it is; the Universe itself is the boson particle. And if you take this reasoning down a scale it is easily observable that the individual boson particles of this Universe (which is itself a boson particle of the greater Ultraverse) are potentially scaled down Alternate Universes in their own right. Take this reasoning up a couple scales and you begin to see that even the Great Ultraverse may be none other than just another humble boson particle but at a greater scale of observation. The Great Ultraverse would likely even be simultaneously from another scale and point a view a Universe similar to our own. Brings a whole new scope of meaning to below is as above and above is as below. The least may indeed be also the greatest and the greatest may indeed also be the least. Well there you have it; my theory on one of the potentials governing the mechanics of creation and infinity.

      • HAL838 on June 11, 2012 at 9:02 am

        When they look long and hard enough, they usually
        find [create] what they are looking for.
        Although it would seem,
        that some particles don’t like being named
        before they make an appearance.

        Maybe these particles find it intimidating.
        and decide they don’t want to be found.

        • HAL838 on June 11, 2012 at 9:06 am

          The universe itself, is a singularity
          as is anything else that can exist.
          All is within the nothing.

          There are several good books on this,
          although as usual, I came up with it independently
          and found the books later.

  6. Christian de Coninck Lucas on June 10, 2012 at 8:39 am

    I read the article kind of like that. In other words, when the Russians annonced a find of lunar water in the 70s, the security complex saw a threat the “Dead Moon Dictum” and promptly buried it behind some superficial giggling and snickering for public consumption in the West.

  7. Jedi on June 10, 2012 at 8:33 am

    and then in Gullivers travels it describes the 2 moons of mars before they were parked there….about a 100 years or so.

    • Robert Barricklow on June 10, 2012 at 10:52 am

      One of my favorite authors, Jonathan Swift.
      His political satire was to die for(eating babies).
      Many of these ‘authors’ were ‘connected’, and had information that makes one wonder, about those ‘ancients’, and telltale signatures.

      • Jedi on June 11, 2012 at 6:42 am

        there have also been reports of water on the sun.

        C 3 PO…see the light in the pyramid on the river of life.

        Its all in the first page of the bible, too bad moon keys cant think.

        • Robert Barricklow on June 11, 2012 at 8:24 am

          I’ll stick to Smash Mouth’s,
          Walkin’ On The Sun.

          • Jedi on June 11, 2012 at 9:03 am

            have you watched the latest version of planet of the apes, seems Caesar figured out he was a pet, stuck in a zoo and was playing around with the geonosis formulae.

          • Jedi on June 11, 2012 at 9:10 am

            oh and he liked looking out of his window of illusion, but lost the feeling of looking at a chalk cross in his cell .

            His keepers dad was a good piano player, but lost his marbles, tried to hijack the neighbors car…..

            looks like the fools on the hill are starting to get worried about the watchmen.

          • Robert Barricklow on June 11, 2012 at 12:21 pm

            Enjoyed the movie.
            A great set-up for THE sequel,
            AND, that IS the one that’s going to be,
            ‘chinese interesting’.

          • Jedi on June 11, 2012 at 1:15 pm

            those ancient chinese laundry secrets of the emperor.

            Odd, if the Chinese emporer of the 2nd opium war didnt die on his way too the summer palace then we would be on the 25th……exactley as it says in revelations.

            This dung beetle is busy rolling up his pile of shit and sitting this one out.

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