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THE AMALEKITES….AGAIN….

Well...this one truly scares me folks, because the implications are that a little home-grown, "bible-believing" Schutzstaffel is being created before our very eyes, if this article from the United Kingdom's Guardian is to be believed(and, having moved in evangelical circles - though never identifying with it - earlier in my life, I, for one, can believe it):

How Christian fundamentalists plan to teach genocide to schoolchildren

(Double take): Say what? Did I just read that?

The story of the Amalekites, as the article indeed points out, has been used to justify genocide. But here's what made me do the double take, to read, and then re-read, and then re-re-read, this:

The first thing the curriculum makes clear is that if God gives instructions to kill a group of people, you must kill every last one:

"You are to go and completely destroy the Amalekites (AM-uh-leck-ites) – people, animals, every living thing. Nothing shall be left."
"That was pretty clear, wasn't it?" the manual tells the teachers to say to the kids.
Even more important, the Good News Club wants the children to know, the Amalakites were targeted for destruction on account of their religion, or lack of it. The instruction manual reads:
"The Amalekites had heard about Israel's true and living God many years before, but they refused to believe in him. The Amalekites refused to believe in God and God had promised punishment."
The instruction manual goes on to champion obedience in all things. In fact, pretty much every lesson that the Good News Club gives involves reminding children that they must, at all costs, obey. If God tells you to kill nonbelievers, he really wants you to kill them all. No questions asked, no exceptions allowed.
No questions asked? No exceptions allowed? Apparently not, the article informs us, for consider King Saul: "'If only Saul had been willing to seek God for strength to obey!' the lesson concludes."  I am reminded of equally pathetic, nauseatingly similar "pious" remarks made by one Heinrich Himmler to the killers in the death camps, bemoaning how onerous their tasks were and how they had to be strong, and even rely on the fact that they were doing the work of the Almighty.
The real problem here - besides anyone openly spouting such vileness, much less wanting to "convert" children to it in some sort of Yahwehjugend or Yahwehbund - is that one can imagine all sorts of horrifying possibilities: a massively deceptive "New World Order" where such barbarians actually imagine - through some careful stage managing of "fulfillment of prophecy" - that they are doing "god's" will, slaughtering a Jew here, a Muslim there, maybe a Catholic or two, toss in a few Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, agnostics for good measure. And of course, if the "fulfillment" doesn't go quite according to the  latest latest updated revised and newly annotated version of
of the Rapture doctrine, things are always be explained and interpreted according to the situation of the moment by some willing televangelists..."Woops, we mis-interpreted that all these years....here's what it really meant...."
See you on the flip side, but first I have to make a trip to the bathroom, because I'm going to be sick...

33 thoughts on “THE AMALEKITES….AGAIN….”

  1. The deity found by narcissists of course has nothing to do with anthing divine; but has everything to do with the demonic sacred: the product of mimetic desire, the ego, the false self.

    1. Tom Farrar Talley

      So, to be a godless human and devoid of the Divine Spark is a protection against narcissism?

      (that’s a question – I try to avoid dogmatic, sweeping, all-inclusive and all-encompassing statements like you just made…)

  2. Message to Yahweh: “Bad ‘god’, no donut!” How ironic that the ‘god’ created by those who constantly scream genocide was one of the earliest proponents of the concept. Morpheus: “History is not without irony.” Truly it is men who create ‘gods’ in their image and not vice versa. What a sordid depraved group of people who created this Yahweh “obey me or fry in the sky!” character. Wasn’t it Nietzsche who said that if horses have gods they’d look just like horses? Well, I guess if vermin had gods they’d look like vermin. Say ‘no’ to ‘gods’. Find the deity in yourself.

  3. This is a very worrying road to me that Dr Farrell has embarked upon with Yahweh the two faced God book. One should remember from an historical/Scriptural view point the Amalekites were the ones who attacked the Israelis first and thus were promised by the Lord that towards them would be an eternal hostility as an people.

    Dr Farrells work very intellectual very thorougly researched is a great source of many things. But in starting to bash and perhaps even slightly generalizing all christians/evangelicals with the morals and views of the dominionist worldview is creating false and easily absorbed hostility from people with some and none religious background.

    Scripture calls for research and verification like in the case of the Bereans in the book of acts. Search the word of the Lord is in the old testament, do that seek world history and non scriptural texts who give outside view to these things(Not always possible though). But once you search and read the scriptures for yourself and get the whole picture it is something that only being bor again in the name of Jesus can do!

    But the bible says it plainly does who perish find the scripture like an closed book never opening itself to them and intellectuals trying to ascertain read the mind of God like Hawking said are in for a surprise they cannot but they think they can!

    Ever learning never coming to the knowledge of truth and that is my warning to Dr Farrell and everyone else who likes to go Yahweh bashing based upon these writings!

    1. Tom Farrar Talley

      Who said Dr. Farrell was of the dominionist worldview?
      Stig, maybe you’d like to be “born-again” into the English language and have the miraculous knowledge of spelling, grammar, syntax, sentence structure, punctuation, etc., come upon you like a dove descending from heaven?
      Because I found it extremely difficult to understand you.
      Were you ‘speaking in tongues’?

      1. Well you see Tom English is not my native language swedish and finnish is so you have to forgive my speaking in tongues.

        Considering that fact id be more than willing to cut you some slack if you were trying to write in my language.

        No hard feelings though i noticed that people here have a tendency to be a little tight A***d when it comes to spelling so excuse me dear people.

        I did not say dr Farrell was of the dominionist worldview, but that his writings tend to box all christians within that quite numerous only not yet militant little phalange of “christianity”.

        And the reference to the inqusition by Brendan is a generalizing statement stating that the catholic church and the inqusition is representative of christianity. These kind of general all christians etc are the same based upon that statement creates hostility and bigotry within the casual and full time readers of this blog towards people of monotheistic faiths.

        Is that plain enough for you Tom sorry for my tongues again, and i repeat no hard feelings from me. Im just pointing out some obvious flaws that intelligent people likem most readers here start to do once they find someone who is speaking their “language” tuned on their “frequency”.

        Search dont bash be like Christ be born again by faith in him and see that it is the difference you seek.

        1. The inevitable references to the horrors of “The inquisition” always annoys me, as the number of persons killed over 500 years pales in comparison to just one day’s toll of civilians incinerated by “the Good Guys” in WWII. The Brits have always had a great propaganda machine, and their “Inquisition” stories were as exaggerated and falsified as Sefton Delmer’s pornographic efforts in “The Good War.”
          I am not defending one minute of the Inquisition, just pointing out that it’s not the be-all and end-all of iniquitous killings of innocents. It’s small potatoes compared to what man has achieved lately.

          1. Tom Farrar Talley

            Eddie,
            made me think of the comparison of the recent shooting in CO, which claimed the lives of 12 people, and Prez O-Bomber coming out to the masses to cry a few crocodile tears –to– U.S. drone aircraft launched under orders from the Administration, in Pakistan, and Hellfire missiles strike a wedding party and slaughters 200+ men, women and children, because the target is one so-called terrorist… and yet, those murdered innocent lives are referred to as “collateral damage”.

  4. It reminds me of the days when the Spanish Inquisition would have roving trials and burn people accused of heresy at the stake. But it’s not murder, no of course not. Not when it’s in the name of God.

    1. Tom Farrar Talley

      Yesh, the reference “in the name of God”, to me is almost synonymous with the catchall: “National Security!”. Both are worn-out, lame cop-outs to justify whatever horror has just been committed… or just after the atrocity
      .

  5. A commenter of another blog, Andre McKenna says:

    “Beware of Sacrificial readings of OT mayhem: slaughter for a good cause. WE have to remember that revelation is not complete with the Hebrew Bible, it is in travail, slowly and surely weaning us away from the violent divinity who scandalizes modern readers, heir to the full denunciation of violence and its definitive separation from divinity (e.g. MT 5 & 6; the Passion narratives). The scandal, the controversy reminds me of one of my favorite remarks by Rene Girard in his book on Job, to the effect that we love to blame God for violence, especially if we don’t believe in him.”

  6. That’s charming that is. So now our kids are going to be taught that genocide is wonderful as long as it is sanctioned by God. What a truly inspired precedent this sets. It would seem that the post modern age has ended and the medieval age has begun in more ways than one. Onward Christian Soldiers.
    Now if you will excuse me I need to go and sharpen my sword and await eagerly God’s instructions.

  7. “but first I have to make a trip to the bathroom, because I’m going to be sick…”

    just now?-

    I’ve been nauseous on organized religion since my childhood- was raised German Lutheran- even before I questioned anything “going to church” (was forced to do this by my parents) never felt right to me-

    not to mention “Bible School”- ohh, that was a good one- was taught “Bible” by an extremely corpulent lady for three yrs. in a row in NE Ohio who emitted a stench that could’ve knocked a buzzard off a s++t wagon- and when I complained to my mother about her oder my mother told me “don’t be so sensitive”- yes, turn the other cheek…

    talk about wanting to regurgitate- but I couldn’t- I was in a church- because this stink bomb was teaching “Bible” I didn’t dare complain

    Larry in Germany

    1. addendum: population reduction has always been the agenda of an elite faction who control/invented all religions

      1. I have been reading about “population reduction” for decades, and yet, mysteriously (or not), the population continues to rise everywhere on the planet.

        Despite all the natural disasters, wars, famines, pandemics, etc, the population just keeps on going up . . up . . up . . up . . .

        1. probably because the elite’s agendas are failing- but never worry: if you first don’t succeed, try, try again (to quote an old phrase)

    2. try reading the bible from a gnostic viewpoint…ie…no god…just science of everything.

      The beauty of it, is if it is explained to you, youll get it, but not understand…it is a personal journey.

      very intelligent people authored the KJV….

      1. Tom Farrar Talley

        I’m just now learning about the Gnostic Gospels and associated writings from the 1st century Christian community… which, TPTB from that era very conveniently (for them) tried to suppress or destroy. Have several books by Elaine Pagels I’ll be tackling soon, too.
        My understanding so far, is there are diverse opinions amongst Gnostic Christians, and there still can be a God, but so far in advance and above the one we’ve been taught of, that essentially this God is unknowable, at least at our present level of comprehension.

  8. Robert Barricklow

    In the interview Jim Fetzer had with Evelien Gilbert about LIBOR July 13, 2012 she said, in effecr, that although many think this financial, 9/11, ect., storyboarded incidents are for a one world currency/one world govt. She believes it for a culling of billions upon billions of the “little people”.

  9. Tom Farrar Talley

    Joseph, I can believe the Guardian article, as I too earlier in life belonged to an extremist fundamentalist Jahwistic cult, which subscribed to the same kind of “Scorched Earth” policy.

    They were masters at rationale. They were perpetual motion generators of Fear Porn, and used the symbol of the watchtower as their masthead, to give the idea of ‘keeping ever on the watch’ for enemies which might infiltrate.

    Amongst so much of their written propaganda, were the oft repeated phrases: “New World” and “New Order” (which referred to their coming earthly paradise) and when you put the two together, you get “New World Order”.

    Your article reminded me most, when I look back, sadly, of how the cultists would teach their children from infancy, and so very effectively breed their dismal world view into them…

    1. Oh I know…it’s the religion ITSELF, it’s the CANONIZED BOOKS that embody all this behavior and bloodshed, and not all the “theology” in the world can remove it, paper it over, make it acceptable…it’s there.

      1. Tom Farrar Talley

        Yes, and the CANONIZED BOOKS, I’m coming to appreciate are pretty much the result of political decisions… and there were so many other writings (which did not fit the political agenda of the Elite of that era) which should have been included, or at least, not banned.
        Yep, TPTB, in various incarnations, have always been with us. 🙁

      2. Joseph, I came across your work via your recent appearance on Red Ice. I struggle with many parts of the Bible, just as you do, but the “spirit or source” of faith in Jesus has greatly changed my life for the better. Definitely conflicted…so here’s my question: You said on the show, “there is a kernel of truth/history” in the Bible. In reference to this kernel, I am genuinely interested in your view on the Heptadic structure of the Bible? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flbaJfRwYxM

        1. I am not familiar with this Brandon, but I will say that one has to be extremely careful in such biblical history reconstructions…there is a VAST amount of biblical scholarship available, not to mention a whole literature of revisionism, and any attempt to reconstruct things has to take all that into account.

          1. But this doesn’t pertain to history or reconstruction but to the underlying alphanumeric structure in the original Greek text. The number 7 is woven repeatedly, on multiple letters, throughout the Bible. The video is definitely worth the time if you are not familiar with the concept. It’s similar to David Flynn’s Time-Distance anomaly but the supernatural “fingerprint” is written in the text, instead of the earth.

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