I had a lot of emails on the Baltic Sea "thing," the object on the floor of the Baltic Sea in the Gulf of Finland, which some are saying is possibly the remains of a crashed UFO, and which RT TV is saying might possibly be some sort of Nazi secret weapon, a submarine trap. Now, believe it or not, I have a few problems with the Nazi submarine trap explanation, which I'll get to in a moment, but first, the RT TV article:

‘Baltic UFO’ may be secret Nazi sub-trap

Now, here's the central part of RT TV's argument that this may represent some sort of Nazi submarine trap:

"The mysterious disc-shaped object at the bottom of the Baltic Sea could be a relic from a giant World War II device placed there by the Nazis to disrupt Soviet submarine navigation.

­"The object may be the concrete anchor of the device, which also had to be fitted with stainless steel mesh, Swedish naval officer and warfare history expert Anders Autellus told Swedish newspaper Expressen. It would interfere with submarine radar signals and make them crash.

"The mesh itself may well have eroded away over the decades, but the images of the object made by the Ocean X team exploring it show what appear to be holes, where it was attached to the foundation, he added.

"Stefan Hogeborn, a member of the team, concurs, saying their find is located just under an important shipping route. German vessels carried many goods important for the war effort during the war, and Soviet submarines sneaking from the Gulf of Finland into the Baltic Sea targeted them."

The problem I have with this explanation is that, while it is true that the Germans shipped things through the Gulf of Finland to their Finnish allies in the war, if I recall correctly, most of that shipping went into ports much further south than this object is located. Other than that, I'm not aware of any other major German naval activity that far north. The only other major German naval surface operation in the Baltic during the war that I am aware of was the evacuation of German troops that had been cut off from the main forces in Courland during the Soviet Operation Begration offensive in June of 1944, and again, this is far to the south of the location of this object. And of course, we can rule out altogether any relationship to German naval operations off of Danzig at the outbreak of the invasion of Poland in 1939.

The bottom line for me then is that the object is simply in the wrong place for this explanation to make much sense, with apologies to RT TV. Nor am I aware that the Germans ever having deployed such a strange submarine trap. While there are, of course, thousands and thousands of pages of documents on Nazi secret projects - most of them still locked up in the Project Lusty archives - I am not aware of any project having to do with submarine or anti-submarine warfare in the bizarre zoo of Nazi secret weapons projects that looks like this. So for me, the Nazi explanation here makes no sense at all.

What then, is the object? I do not know... time, research,  will tell.

See you on the flip side.


Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. ChartistFriend on July 31, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    Just a heads up – the TV show Breaking Bad is exploring the Nazi International idea.

    • ChartistFriend on July 31, 2012 at 7:48 pm

      The man character who is a chemist / meth cooker goes by the street name Heisenberg.

  2. Geraldo Lino on July 29, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Dear Mr Farrell:

    For me, the object is one of two things: either some kind of weird geological formation or something artificial like dozens or hundreds of other underwater constructions that can be found in the oceans all over the world. The depth at which it was found, some 85 meters, would restrict its construction to sometime before 16,000 or 17,000 years ago, before it was submerged by the sea level rise that began after the latest glacial maximum (about 22,000 years ago). if this is correct, the big question is: who could have built it then? Anyway, I hope that the answer won’t delay too much.

    Greetings from Rio de Janeiro.

    • Joseph P. Farrell on July 30, 2012 at 11:29 am

      It could be Geraldo… my point is that I think it’s just too early to tell, but also that I don’t think, given its general position, that the Nazi explanation makes much sense.

  3. Karl on July 28, 2012 at 7:04 am

    That’s velocity, need new glasses, sorry.

  4. Karl on July 28, 2012 at 7:02 am

    The first vid put out by the salvage team contains a passage where a diver says that this thing is not made of rock. Taking this in account together with the presumed skid mark it left on the sea floor, I would be willing to bet that what we see is the underside of that thing. It came in flat, perhaps with the dented side forward, skidded on the sea floor until velocitiy and buoyancy levelled out, the resulting rotational forces took the nose/heaviest part forward and down, flipping it over. The dented part may have been a number of things, either design, or the brackets for the engine compartment, now gone due to late-war or after-war salvage operations effected by Nazis/Soviets/Western Allies? The mushroom ”stem” could house control structures and/or heavy weapons of the cartridge type. The videos show a small segment, covered and re-covered by the silt and debris stirred up, possibly, by the crash. It doesn’t show if this stuff is reflective,
    The way info or dis-info is handled in this case leaves a familiar bad taste in my mouth. As another option created by the kleptocrats, this would fit the bill nicely. Also fits nicely with the fact that there has been no new info in at least the last two weeks. If this was my operation, I would be at it day and night. Come to think of it, I’d probably be dead by now.

  5. Incognito on July 26, 2012 at 10:41 am

    My comments aren’t being posted. Test.

  6. David B. Schuster on July 25, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    Alan Abbadessa is working on some connections between Baltic Sea events at his blog (

    • Robert Barricklow on July 25, 2012 at 5:20 pm

      I checked it out.
      An interesting site with comments that seed one’s imagination.

  7. HAL838 on July 25, 2012 at 8:45 am

    I really am getting tired of being so repiticious.
    YOU ALL already know this.

    In the late sixties reaching into the early 70s,
    we hiccuped a First Strike from a Soviet
    rogue ship acting on her own trying to attack Hawaii
    from a spot in the Pacific THREE MILES DEEP.

    The nuclear-tipped torpedo exploded instead,
    but its warhead did NOT go off. However,
    the ship sank.
    The US found out all about it and shorly thereafter
    found the spot by its explosive signature.

    The US raised the entire ship AT THAT TIME
    without the Soviets learning the fate of their ship
    until the 1990s.

    Do I have to rub your collective nose in it?
    The book is called, “Red Star Rogue”
    by Kenneth Sewell with Clint Richmond.

    • Jedi on July 25, 2012 at 1:14 pm

      Thanks Hal….answer the phone

      • HAL838 on July 25, 2012 at 2:43 pm

        It’s my air conditioner that’s ringing

        • Jedi on July 26, 2012 at 4:37 am

          theres got too be the morning after……nice knowing ewe

          • HAL838 on July 26, 2012 at 6:11 am

            bon voyage

  8. Jay on July 25, 2012 at 6:51 am

    Found: “Millennium Falcon”.

    • Robert Barricklow on July 25, 2012 at 5:22 pm

      Good one!

  9. Nina Brady on July 25, 2012 at 6:18 am

    Hello Joseph,
    I have been following your work for a while now and although the following site is not related to this particular article, I thought you may be interested in checking it out. It’s an alternate view of the beginning of our solar system (as we see it today) rooted from the ‘electric universe’ theory and how an electrical plasma discharge may have taken place between our current solar system and what may have been our previous solar system when they came into contact with one another. It goes into the whole Saturn/Sun cult thing as well, but I thought you may find the electrical plasma discharge/electric universe theory idea interesting…
    Love your work and the extensive research you put into everything you write about.
    Nina Brady

    • HAL838 on July 26, 2012 at 12:41 am

      Thank you Nina
      Thank You very much

    • David B. Schuster on July 26, 2012 at 7:58 am

      Agreed, Troy McLachlan’s work is fascinating. It’s complementary to the Farrell Hypothesis, if not outright supportive. If you want a crash course, there’s a seven hour interview (

  10. Jedi on July 25, 2012 at 5:51 am

    Hmm, in the bermuda triangle survivors and last messages reported that navigation equipment were to be acting odd …hmm and this device might just be the source of it….more possible evidence of EM machines.
    Perhaps this is not the intent of the device but one of its …signatures.

    • HAL838 on July 26, 2012 at 12:43 am

      Jedi !
      [I] got it !

      • Jedi on July 26, 2012 at 4:42 am

        21? game over.

        • HAL838 on July 26, 2012 at 6:12 am


          • Jedi on July 26, 2012 at 7:28 pm

            damn dams damned nations….ah well the lady in red was a nice dame…till i kicked her out

          • HAL838 on July 26, 2012 at 8:53 pm

            I was the [dancing] devil with the blue dress on.

  11. Codes on July 25, 2012 at 5:26 am

    I was reading about how electronics would cut out within a certain parameter of the object (200m?) That i thought was pretty interesting as well.

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