In Saucers, Swastikas, and Psyops I reviewed the important research of Dr. Richard Sauder whose books on underground and underwater bases are well worth considering, especially for those interested in where some of the black budget monies are being spent. In his research, Dr. Sauder considers the speculative possibilities of permanent manned deep sea bases, underwater cities, so to speak.

Dr. Sauder would appear to be vindicated to some extent by this unusual article that someone sent me, that, while over a year old now, is very important:

Energy Resources Brazil mulls underwater base to guard oil

That Brazil would consider such an enterprise is an indicator, perhaps, of how far undersea basing technology has come. Granted, such underwater labs have been around for a while, but the article suggests that Brazil is considering much more than a mere laboratory, but an actual military base and platform for further exploration:

"Various plans for making the most of offshore hydrocarbon resources are in place and most plans involve close collaboration between the government, the state-run hydrocarbons industry and the defense establishment.

"Plans for an underwater "lab" or "platform" involve the government and the Brazilian navy, both of which are interested in setting up a marine outpost on the edge of Brazil's territorial waters, allowing deeper access to the sea."

There are some huge implications here, for clearly Brazil is intending something else than merely research, and that is the development of deep sea technologies and a sustained human environment and presence there, including for defense purposes, in order to make available energy resources from petroleum deposits. Thus far, of course, existing international law and conventions have made the oceans and seabeds more or less an international "neutral zone," but the development of such technologies and ever-deeper and ever-expanding human presence on the sea-bed, in conjunction with commercial exploration, will inevitably mean the redefinition of geopolitics; oceans will no longer be conceived as the arteries of global commerce but also, themselves, as part of the national treasure... succinctly put, borders may come to be drawn on the oceans just as surely as on land...Development of such resources will also perhaps do an end-run around all the current geopolitics surrounding the Middle East and the old Halford MacKinder doctrine of controlling the Eurasian heartland.

Brazil's actions, we can rest assured, are simply the usual public announcement after-the-fact, for we can be very sure that, in addition to the race to space and all the associated black projects with it, that there is also a race to the ocean floor, and all the black projects associated with that...

...See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Robnen on September 29, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Hi Joseph,

    Maybe my post is off topic here, but I wanted to ask whether you’re familiar with Douglas Dietrich’s claims about nazi survival at the South Pole? He also claims the Roswell Incident involved a giant Japanese dirigible carrying a biological agent. In the link I’m providing, at 1 hour 21 minutes he starts talking about the Germans being influenced by Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar’s work on black holes, and that this is what gave them a 50 year technological lead over the allies. Dietrich has plenty of hours of videos on youtube, and although I find his stuff fascinating, I’m a hack and was wondering what somebody more sophisticated like yourself makes of his material. He claims to have worked as a librarian at the Presidio in charge of destruction of top secret documents. Thanks, and here’s a link to a lengthy interview with him.

    • Joseph P. Farrell on September 29, 2012 at 8:01 pm

      I have covered the topic of Nazis and the South Pole NUMEROUS times in my books. No, I do not believe it. No, I do not believe that Roswell was Japanese balloons, etc.

  2. Thomas Marz on September 25, 2012 at 4:51 am

    What about Puerto Rico and a supposedly large underwater base there?

    • LSM on September 25, 2012 at 5:41 am

      yes, exactly, Thomas- you’ve obviously “heard” the same sources I have- but we just don’t know if it’s actually true- I guess the only thing of which I’m convinced is that when MSM tells us to look at “yon” we should be looking at “hither”

      • HAL838 on September 25, 2012 at 6:18 am

        that IS correct Larry

        “hither” comes the risen Sun
        “yon” [der] does it set

        • Thomas Marz on September 25, 2012 at 8:08 am

          i say we all just go down there and verify its there and if we fail – we’re in Puerto Rico and i’m sure could make the best of things.

  3. Robert Barricklow on September 24, 2012 at 10:38 am

    Perhaps a subtle hint that their oil is vulnerable, or a better term would be subject to contitions, via back channels.

    ANd an announcement to other “in the know”.

  4. Geraldo Lino on September 24, 2012 at 8:30 am

    Dear Mr Farrell:

    I don’t think that this mistake by the journalist may have had some occult intention behind it. Many journalists nowadays, even foreign correspondents, do not display the higher standards that were quite common some decades ago. I know it first hand, having to struggle all the time against their carelessness on scientific themes like the so-called anthropogenic global warming and others (also, my younger brother is the deputy International Editor in Brazil’s second biggest newspaper, and he is always complaining about their general lack of preparedness). As to the maritime laboratory, it’s part of a general plan outlined by the Brazilian government in order to be able to protect the country’s claims over the resources of the UN-authorized enlarged exclusive economic zone of the Brazilian littoral, which includes the building of a new fleet of submarines, four conventional and three nuclear (this one being a move that the US is fiercely against). While the military part of it is ongoing, as I told you before, it remains to be seen whether the laboratory will be built someday, especially because it does not make much sense in scientific or other practical terms, for it would be very expensive to build and maintain and would offer few advantages over the down-to-earth oceanographic vessels.

  5. markLouis on September 24, 2012 at 6:41 am

    > the UPI reporter got it wrong
    >>why would UPI run a story like that if ,,,

    Maybe the UPI reporter is an idiot and they don’t have an editor any more.

    A week or two ago, the Wall Street Journal did a feature sports story, and the reporter concluded by making a statement about parity in the world of tennis, but the reporter used the word “parody” and no editor caught it. WSJ had to run the correct word in the online edition and later a correction in print.

    The media draw from the same pool of uneducated young idiots everyone else has to deal with, must deal with the same “bottom-line” cost-cutting driven by vision-less businessmen everyone else has to deal with.

  6. Geraldo Lino on September 24, 2012 at 5:29 am

    Dear Mr Farrell:

    Unfortunately, the UPI reporter got it wrong. My country not only does not intend to build an underwater laboratory but it doesn’t have the technology for such a project also. The envisioned plan is for a floating one, mounted on a platform like the ones used in the underwater oil exploration. And I must confess that even this one I doubt that it will see the light of the day in the near future, not because of any lack of technical and scientific capacity but due to the lack of political will among the Brazilian elites in order to overcome the proverbial and longstanding dictatorship of the budgetary constraints for almost everything but the debt service.

    • Joseph P. Farrell on September 24, 2012 at 5:45 am

      Hi Geraldo…interesting! That raises even more intriguing questions to my mind…why would UPI run a story like that if there were no intention behind it? Any ideas? A smokescreen for some other activity? I’d be very interested to hear your speculation on this as this story really grabbed my attention and made me think of all sorts of possibilities that would emerge with such technologies.

      • HAL838 on September 24, 2012 at 6:19 pm

        Whoever ‘inherited’ Moonie’s moons must also
        nowown UPI.
        Helen Thomas quit when he obtained it and
        wrote about the farce that is/was [the Rev]
        Moon and how the entire DC buttheads
        ‘worshipped’, entertained him and rolled out
        the red carpet for him in that ‘town.’

        On the other hand,
        if this is anywhere near true,
        it probably isn’t supposed to get out.

        Take yout pick.
        I really don’t care about those ‘devilish’ details,
        as they don’t matter to what I’m about at this time.

        It’s not even comparably interesting.

      • terminally skeptical on September 25, 2012 at 7:09 pm

        If it’s just sloppy reporting the story dies here and if there’s a broader agenda at hand we’ll be treated to yet another round of problem, reaction, solution.

    • Robert Barricklow on September 24, 2012 at 10:33 am

      “…everything but debt service”.

      That part; unfortunately, is writ large globally.

      • HAL838 on September 24, 2012 at 10:57 am

        Well, I’ve been keeping up MY end of a [debt] economy

        • Robert Barricklow on September 24, 2012 at 1:06 pm

          Again reminds me of a novel where:

          “I know it’s unfair, but does it have to be industrial strength unfair?”

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