There is more interesting news on the growing mystery of humanity's genetic history, and since this is a topic of interest to us here on this website, this one(courtesy of Mr. T.W.), following in the wake of the story I reported from Russian genetic studies a few weeks ago, is rather important:

Sex with early mystery species of humans seen in DNA, UW researcher says

What is interesting here is something that I have speculated upon in my various books, and that on the basis of consideration of some ancient texts, and some modern genetics. We may outline this speculation by highlighting its two main components: (1) that at some point in the course of human evolution, a major intervention occurred in the form of genetic engineering by "someone else," whom I have on various occasions called our "genetic cousins," and that this may have brought homo sapiens sapiens into existence, or considerably modified an already existent species and (2) that at some subsequent period, a further, though more limited, intervention or interference of such a nature took place. I have, in outlining these speculations, attempted to exhibit various areas of parallelism, and various areas of contradiction, between modern science and ancient texts, and the out of Africa hypothesis would seem to be one such area of general contradiction, since by any alternative community "reading" of ancient texts, such interventions were most likely performed in or near Mesopotamia.

Here, however, we seem to have indications of yet another major "intervention" - or perhaps a better word would be, mingling - within the human species, one which for whatever reason does not have appeared to have spilled over into the European population but remains confined to Africa.

What I find the most interesting in this article, however, is the language in which it is couched:

"Akey said that present-day Europeans show no evidence of the foreign DNA, meaning the mystery people were likely confined to Africa.

"The find offers more evidence that for thousands of years, modern-looking humans shared the Earth with evolutionary cousins that later died out. And whenever the groups met, they did what came naturally: They bred.

"The once controversial idea that humans mated with other species is now widely accepted among scientists. In fact, hominid hanky-panky seems to have occurred wherever humans met others who looked kind of like them.

"In 2010, researchers from the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Germany announced finding Neanderthal DNA in the genomes of modern Europeans."

Now, it requires but a shift in paradigms to assume that, rather then early modern man gleefully copulating with whatever other slightly different primitive member of genus homo it came into contact with, that this might have been with a member of genus homo not originally from here.

This proposition of course will be roundly denied publicly, but it is the language of the article that, if one reads it carefully, suggests that maybe the idea is quietly and carefully being considered behind closed doors and in hushed voices (lest it jeopardize their funding!).

The key here is going to be when genetic studies are finally done of all those rather large mummies we keep hearing about from time to time... that is, if "they" will be honest enough to share them...

....but don't hold your breath.

See you on the flip side.

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. terminally skeptical on September 25, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    What is the greater love story? The African who walks all the way to Siberia for a date or the celestial traveler traversing the galaxy for some strange?

    Cue up at around 15:50

    • RaPhi on September 25, 2012 at 8:49 pm

      Hey T. skeptical:
      Appreciate the Tshcaikowsky. Spasebo balshoi, tovarishch! Ah do luv them Russkies. Give me Glinka, Rachmaninoff, and the good Dr. Borodin.

      But as for fantasies of the flesh, or maybe a homecoming millenia in the making, consider my “into Africa” scenario last paragraph below.

      • terminally skeptical on September 26, 2012 at 1:41 pm

        Going to have to go chauvanist here on your bit of conjecture of whether those, loosely speaking, African dudes and dudettes were the early bird DNA swappers. Just ’cause their moms have more DNA bling than my dullard Neanderthal ancestors doesn’t make them the sole scions of the originals. This place is just a galactic pitstop for visitors from antiquity and their human intervention chemistry sets. In the march of time whats a few million years amongst friends? Probably just enough time to “clean up” the gene pool. And besides methinks it takes eons of inbreeding to create a banker. That alone should be proof enough of an incestual bunch those whities truely are.

        BTW, I’m claiming the duo of Horowitz and Rachmaninoff as bonafide members of the west-of-the-Caucasus club and glad we could agree at least once.

  2. RaPhi on September 25, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    As Dr. Farrell has pointed out repeatedly, any interbreeding would mean the same species, just slightly different varieties. Way, way closer than the other great apes, who have 48 chromosomes. Compared to the human 46. The difference is that what are separate chromosomes in the great apes (chimps, gorillas,etc.) become fused as 2q and 2p in humans.

    Although it is interesting that almost all of the differences (<2% of the total genome) are in the non-coding regions. So not the obbvious stuff, but what used to be called "junk DNA." However, the "junk" has turned out play a role in gene regulation. Details aren't totally clear yet.

    Let's try another thought experiment. One that will make howler monkeys out of the Nazi racists hanging around this site. Notice that Europeans have the remnants of Neanderthal DNA. You know, body hair, stocky builds, brow ridges, hung out in caves.

    On the other hand, consider Africans like the Hadza and Sandawe mentioned in the UW article. The Hadza have the most variation in mitochrondrial DNA. So then a very old group with many "Eves" still among them. The Sandawe are related to the Bushmen. Slim builds, thin lips, tan skins, epicanthan eye folds. Probably among the first modern Homo sapiens sapiens. Could be the returning human ETs were their descendants in the first place! So then recognized them as REAL people and left the brutish Euros alone. 😉

    • Ramura on September 26, 2012 at 1:55 am

      RaPhi, I LOVE YOU!

      And…I love the way you think!

      Also love that you have cut those troll Nazi Aryan White Supremacist-types, that have been hanging around this site lately, right off at the pass.

      You, GO!

      S ^i^

  3. Johnycomelately on September 25, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    I wonder how this fits in with Darwin’s take on the ‘lower races’ and Marx’s assertion that the Scots, Bretons, Basques and Serbs need to be exterminated as remnants of ‘earlier inhabitants.’

    There seems to be a peculiar racial hatred by the old guard Anglo elite towards these ‘earlier inhabitants’ that doesn’t seem to make any logical sense.

    • Yaj on September 26, 2012 at 6:04 am

      Can you provide a citation for that Marx statement?

      Also, why would these racist pronouncements be exclusively “Anglo”, there’s a Germanic version I can think of, very famous. And other variations the world over. You should hear what Albanians say about Serbs.

      Then why imply that Marx is “Anglo”?

  4. Hal Hichler on September 25, 2012 at 5:31 pm

  5. Hal Hichler on September 25, 2012 at 5:31 pm

  6. LSM on September 25, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    if my read sources are correct we homo sapiens sapiens have the same percentage of salt in our blood as salt in the oceans (if anyone has any info to contradict this please let me know)-

    then there is the religion of the Dogon people in present-day Mali who believe that (humongous paraphrase and over-simplification here) we emerged from some sort amphibious ocean being-

    then look at images of the Mesopotamian/Babylonian deity Dagon with more-or-less a human body but the head of a fish-

    then look at the Pope in his fully mitred regalia (the mitre is the big clue) and compare it to the images of Dagon- see any BLATANT similarities?- you bet-

    that’s just for starters- then take it from there in any direction one wishes- but it seems the collective oceans are the lowest common denominator-


    • Robert Barricklow on September 25, 2012 at 4:36 pm

      First Larry,
      The Oceans?
      Presuming that llife evolved there, is presuming that all is copasetic.
      We could go on – ad infinitum. But in “supposing” one is very presumptuous.
      Altough you ends is justified.
      Sometimes the means are just “virtual”.

    • terminally skeptical on September 25, 2012 at 7:00 pm

      LSM a cursory check using the search phrases salinity of blood and salinity of ocean water suggests that salt is “on average” nearly 4 times more concentrated in the ocean.

      • LSM on September 26, 2012 at 8:46 am

        Hi ts,

        many thanks for the correct info-


  7. Ken Lemon on September 25, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    Where’s Zecharia Sitchin when you need him, oh I forgot, he’s dead.

    The origions of man have been discussed at length forever, but the “Cabalstic Academia” has kept the lid on the issue for just as long.

    As Graham Hancock has said, we need to throw out all the current theories on the human species and start again.

    The thing that REALLY pisses me off is, WHO has kept the lid on it for such a long time, I mean university professors AINT DUMB, or are they.

    The academic pay check is a powerful tool, isnt it.

    • Ramura on September 26, 2012 at 1:59 am

      Yes, it is.

      ‘Nuff said…

  8. Dr. Scott D. de Hart on September 25, 2012 at 11:14 am

    when the full truth of this reality dawns on humanity (whatever that might actually be), there will be some folks listed among a certain type … a type that is both intriguing and needed and dangerous and needing to be controlled or used. Could this news fit in with better timing to the Transhumanism book?! Interesting indeed.

    Thanks for sharing!

    Dr. S.D. de Hart

    • Ramura on September 26, 2012 at 2:01 am

      Can hardly wait for the book! I can’t remember when amazon said they were shipping this one. I have “pre-ordered” everything you guys put out….but I think, within a couple of months, I will FINALLY find out where you two have been for a LONG time!


      S ^i^

  9. willem on September 25, 2012 at 10:24 am

    when will these things happen in the US

  10. Robert Barricklow on September 25, 2012 at 8:59 am

    There is that “alien” direct intervention, either conventionally and/or thru genetic engineering.
    Indirectly, there is the DNA itself. Either “alien” “construted” and/or manipulated thru other specie(s) …and this, itself has been manipulated by viruses/likewise manipulated.

    Life, is as they say…


    • Jedi on September 25, 2012 at 9:13 am

      have a look at the sequences of the boat pits.
      Take a he, add a cosmic serpant, for a she, add the twin towers of truth and lies, get $ eat away at the tree of life.
      turn your bel upside down, add wine….
      oink oink thats all folks…

      • Robert Barricklow on September 25, 2012 at 11:53 am

        Elmer Fudd:
        Well, as it turns out, I’m secwetwy evil.
        Daffy Duck:
        That’s showbiz for ya!

        • Jedi on September 25, 2012 at 12:06 pm

          lol… exit stage right.

          • Robert Barricklow on September 25, 2012 at 3:07 pm

            See ya, wouldn’t want to be ya…

          • Jedi on September 25, 2012 at 3:10 pm

            on a serious note i am here todo to them something they do not like

          • Robert Barricklow on September 25, 2012 at 6:49 pm

            I’ll drink to that.

    • HAL838 on September 25, 2012 at 10:36 am

      yeah, so’s THE imagination.

      Hey jede,
      Your ‘friends’ are still batantly and brazenly going at it.
      Chemtrailing right over my head in broad [sunny]
      Reminds me of sum dum fella went by the name of
      Custer…. a relation, maybe……………..

      Just call me a newby tree hugger.

      • Jedi on September 25, 2012 at 11:37 am

        why do ewe keep on targeting me?

        • HAL838 on September 25, 2012 at 11:50 am

          Because you need to take Hawkeye’s advice
          in the funniest MASH episode

          Your totbots are escaping

          • Jedi on September 25, 2012 at 12:11 pm

            eww the fear i still cannot feel it….you know why they slang word for insane is mad…cause the madder you get the more insane you behave.

            dont worry i am in good hands ….i know to teach, i teach to know.

  11. amrta on September 25, 2012 at 7:37 am

    Totally relevant to this issue, please see this seminal lecture by Lloyd Pye:

    Note especially the well-documented mating of a primitive hominid “big-foot” in a Siberian village with living offspring produced.

    Don’t miss the letter at the end of the video by “DeepThroat” geneticist. Supposedly, the only part of our nuclear DNA that is all or mostly non-primate is the Y-chromosome!!! WHOAH, how politically incorrect can you get! But this sure would explain a lot 😉

    • HAL838 on September 25, 2012 at 8:04 am

      the twins are still fighting

    • HAL838 on September 25, 2012 at 8:07 am

      Oh, an XXY
      bechuv never herd of IT

      • Rich Overholt on September 25, 2012 at 2:08 pm

        I told you I was sick.

        Licking, fucking, sucking = good

        Treachory, betrayal, famine, disease, murder, infant genital mutilation-bad

        • Rich Overholt on September 25, 2012 at 2:29 pm

          But, you are correct. Should probably get a karyotype. Jus for fun!

      • RaPhi on September 25, 2012 at 5:26 pm

        XXY= “Kleinfelter’s syndrome” male.

        In cats, red & black are carried on X chromosomes. Why tortoiseshells and calicos are she… except for the rare XXY– a boy calico kitty.

        In humans, supposedly associated with retardation. Turns out that’s not entirely so. I knew one, quite intelligent, who was the subject of tests at the same UW of this post. Tall skinny, very small feminine hands and feet. But could grow a beard and was fertile until he was a little over 30.

        • Ramura on September 26, 2012 at 2:07 am


          Good to know!


  12. Rich Overholt on September 25, 2012 at 7:04 am

    Contrary to popular mythology, most of us did NOT come here for the fucking gold, but for the fucking. Earth girls are easy. Ha!

    • HAL838 on September 25, 2012 at 8:10 am

      It’s that minute trace of

    • Robert Barricklow on September 25, 2012 at 6:57 pm

      Defintion of a lazy pollock:
      Marries a pregnant woman.

      I thought that was funny at one time.
      Until …?

      • RaPhi on September 25, 2012 at 9:09 pm

        Had a few shots, have you? Well, na zdarovia! Say thanks– in Polish, dziekuje!

        Uh, a pollack is a fish. I’d bet that lady could have snagged something better. Roe, roe, roe her boat… the vesica piscis.

  13. HAL838 on September 25, 2012 at 6:31 am

    viruses have always been nature’s transcription.


    I ‘see’ that the demons awake to their sunrise to set


    play it [j-us-t-US] once more

    (the day’s activities have started; the phone, the computer, even the TV)

    Excuse me, my fast must now break 😉

  14. Timothy Robert on September 25, 2012 at 5:52 am

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