Joseph comments on an article in RT's website on Venetian calls for independence, the secessionist movements in Europe, and a little known though interesting book about America:

Venice to rally for independence from Italy



Posted in

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. romanmel on October 12, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    I agree on the vulnerability of secession movements to be channeled by crafty elites into narrowly defined and marginalized groups. One only need to examine the so called Tea Party movement, as a prime example. Within weeks the grass root aspect of this movement had been compromised then taken over by neocons and has become little more than a sect of the Republithugs.

  2. HAL838 on October 12, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    I get the term “alchemy.”
    But now I’m lost in a transhumanist

    Is that something you might take a laxative for
    if it is not regular or doesn’t MOVE properly
    by itself?

    Just HOW do we, are we to, bring this ABOUT?

    • puckles on October 14, 2012 at 3:57 pm

      Re transhumanism: I would suggest that quite frankly this is not something one wants to bring about. See the writings of Mr. Singularity himself, Ray Kurzweil (The Singualirty is Near), for more info (or for that matter, Isaac Asimov, who warned against it). They dealt mainly with robot/human transgenesis. But there is much worse going on; one sees horrid transhumanist stuff on a daily basis in the science press–the transhuman goat who gives human breast milk, etc. This, to my mind, is the real worry. The PTB have realized that there is no organized opposition to this stuff, aside from a few principled academics whom they freely characterize as loonies. The PTB in this case are mainly Monsanto, Syngenta, and others involved in GMO manufacturing, as well as their government enablers throughout the world., and the usual suspects such as Bill Gates, the Rockefellers, etc. Bill Engdahl had a great article this week on the problem, noting that the former as well as nearly all states infected by the Monsanto/Syngenta nonsense had taken good care to install seed vaults in what are essentially permafrost areas. If I recall correctly, it’s at

      He calls it for what it is, an outright eugenic conspiracy; the recent French research on the GMO diet has plainly demonstrated that it is lethal. Monsanto’s own so-called testing always stopped at the 3-month point in rats, supposedly. My guess is that they retroactively stopped the testing there, as anything further clearly showed horrendous tumor genesis.

      • HAL838 on October 15, 2012 at 3:19 am

        Oh !
        The Six Million Dollar Man
        and The Bionic Woman !

        • HAL838 on October 15, 2012 at 3:23 am

          Ya know, now that I think of it……
          with the destruction of Earth as a home for carbon based organisms,
          we will all have to become robots !

          • HAL838 on October 15, 2012 at 3:31 am

            And that is a ridiculous use of the term,
            I’ve read Kurzweil and find no connection.
            After all, you live in a zero-infinity-singularity……………

            Shades of black holes within black holes !

  3. Edu on October 11, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Perhaps smaller states may be easier to manipulate, but on the other hand there would be many more localities and cultures to be infiltrated and manipulated, contrasting with one big government. And, bearing the one world government agenda in mind, why would any of those new free states abdicate from their new freedom and go all the back to a global centralized government?

    I think the secessionists movements are really a major problem for the global elite hehehehe

  4. Frankie Calcutta on October 11, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    I don’t believe the banksters would like to see any type of secessionist movement in the US. They have totally consolidated power in the Federal government and the federal government calls the shots all the way down to the local school boards, so why would they give that up? Furthermore, I don’t believe the banksters are even concerned about burgeoning secessionist movements in the US. With all their experience in the last 75 years toppling governments across the globe, squashing a secessionist movement n the US would be a walk in the park. It’s as easy as an assassin’s bullet in the secessionist movement leader’s skull or a zillion other dirty tricks they have perfected throughout the years. Just look at the history of South America. It is nothing but the CIA toppling anyone they don’t like. Any real secessionist movement would have to start from the state’s US army or AIr Force military base– hopefully one equipped with nukes to give the secessionists more teeth. But I am sure the banksters have planned for such a scenario decades ago as well and would quell any renegade military commander with the drop of a nuke. Hence, the reason for Israeli air force stationed in the US. If the US military won’t drop a nuke on one of its own, an Israeli sure would. In fact, the more foreign military presence in the US, the less likely we will see anyone not following bankster orders.

    On the flip side, secessionism is very advantageous to banksters when they don’t have complete control of a nation. Usually this occurs with a country that has a strong cultural identity. It is usually best to fracture this kind of country. That is what I believe the commencing strategy is in Europe. I remember listening to a policy maker from some neo-con think tank after the Iraq invasion where he stated it was the intended goal to fracture as many of the middle east countries as possible (starting with Iraq) with the end result being smaller countries much more easier to control (and subvert). (apparently they haven’t achieved their desired result). This is greatly evidenced in the smaller former Soviet countries in Eurasia which the US and allies have had great success in steering their economic and foreign policy.

    Now the day will come possibly when the US will be split up and parceled out– the southwest to the Mexicans, Alaska to China, so maybe this will come as part of a social implosion where secessionism would have been part of the mix. I’ve always envisioned NYC becoming a Venice style city state.

    I would also have to respectfully disagree that America has regional cultures. My travels lead me to believe we have nothing but baseball cap wearing fluoride heads from coast to coast. The only thing regional about them is their specific brand of fanaticism to their local sports teams. Differences come primarily by where they get their opinions from– either a fake left or fake right tv opinion programmer wether that programmer be black, white, yellow, brown, comical, serious, ugly, attractive, hip or old-fashioned. The majority population in every state is pretty generic and is shaped by that electronic box in their living room.

  5. Robert Barricklow on October 11, 2012 at 10:26 am

    This is at THE CORE of the struggle. In a broad brushstroke:
    Politics vs Economics
    People vs Elite
    Local vs Internationalism
    Justice vs Tyranny
    They who issues the Nation’s currency is the ruler.
    An international currency(wet dream of the NWO) is the anthesis of local.
    This, of course, has ancient seeding.
    We, as a people, MUST pull this economic ” ‘alien’ golden bug ” from the roots of “establishmemt($)”, to enable seeds of /”our”/nature/ to bear its ‘just’ cornucopia for all.
    As it is, is a comedy/tradgedy of purpose.
    The “errors”, are in our perception, being “purpoosely distorted”.

  6. LSM on October 11, 2012 at 9:18 am

    Hi Dr. Farrell,

    I think you’re spot-on with your views-

    if the secessionist movements should succeed, I think you’re absolutely right in that they would become more bite-sized pieces for the banksters to swallow- typical divide and rule and more compartmentalization so the pixels will be less able to see that they’re only a part of a larger picture of premeditated art (political) theft-

    but let’s hope that some sort of benevolent political curator(s) will be able to prevent this-

    and we all know there are other unseen forces at work out there, both good and bad–

    hope all are well-


  7. Tor on October 11, 2012 at 9:15 am

    It’s difficult for me to imagine how, if the U.S. would break up into regions, each pursuing their own interests, that it would actually be easier for the financial elite to manipulate multiple regions. For example, it seems to me that you would have a variety of candidates running for office, who would be promoting agendas that are contrary to what the financial elites want. A good example is North Dakota, who established their own State bank. Imagine multiple regions of the country following suit, and gaining massive popular support, by Ron Paul type candidates promoting the idea of returning their region to a Constitutional Republic, kicking out the banks, and setting up their own public central bank that doesn’t print worthless debt paper, dismantling the KGB spy/police state, prosecuting corporate and banking criminals, restoring the Militia, ending gun control, and controlling boarders, actually stopping illegal immigration, and dangerous drug cartels, like Arizona is trying to do. ending the FDA, and funding organic produce, producing and selling alternative fuels, telling the UN to take their Agenda 21 and shove it, quit outsourcing jobs to China and Mexico, and 100s of other things that would actually have public support, because they are policies that actually make sense, rather than the way they do things now, with this two party monopoly, giving you a choice of two, 4 year dictator yes men, and the whole establishment just falls in line and obeys and implements every single thing that the financial elites want. Not saying that it would happen like that, but it could, and it would seem to me that the reason for secessionist movements is because these regions just don’t believe that this mess that we have now is in their best interest. It also seems to me, that their MO is to consolidate the world into large regions, operating under a single authority, because it’s easier to maintain control that way. Doesn’t seem to me that financial elites would have any interest in seeing things break up into multiple regions.

    • Spectator on October 11, 2012 at 3:25 pm

      I agree. I think Joseph has this exactly backwards. A multiplicity of regional polities, p;ursuing somewhat different strategies and priorities, makes things harder, not easier, for the coupon-clippers and giant multi-nationals. Think of the ability to forbid Monsanto to bring the GMO seed into your jurisdiction. Etc.

    • bdw000 on October 11, 2012 at 4:16 pm

      A few contrary opinions follow.

      The heaven you describe seems to be missing one huge problem: do you really think that smaller pieces of the US would be able to use military might to force the flow of oil from the middle east (and other parts of the world) to said piece of the US?

      Our world is a very, very complex entity. For any major revision of the status quo, there could be hundreds, even thousands, of economic problems of such magnitude that any small part of the whole could be devastated, or even the whole world.

      Utopia’s are always fun to fantasize about. But, barring major game-changers like free energy, I just don’t see how it is possible to create your own perfect little haven, unless you can somehow manufacture 100% independence from the rest of the world. If you depend on anyone else for anything at all, you will be drawn into the rest of the world, on ITS terms, which means, “back to square one.”

      The fact is, the modern way of life we enjoy in the US simply is not independent of the rest of the world. Oil is not the only foreign commodity that huge parts of the economy depend on. Without foreign oil, my UNeducated guess is that you would have to cut the US population in half to maintain the standard of living that so many of us enjoy.

  8. marcos toledo on October 11, 2012 at 6:49 am

    The book you metion was written by Kickpaterick Sale

Help the Community Grow

Please understand a donation is a gift and does not confer membership or license to audiobooks. To become a paid member, visit member registration.

Upcoming Events